Art of Fighting 2 (Arcade vs SNES) Side by Side Comparison (2 Longplay)
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The Neogeo was a real MONSTER in the 90‘s : it would be amazing to develop new games on it or even Capcom cps1 & cps2 conversions
For 16-bit and using only a small cartridge to fit all that stuff for the SNES is VERY impressive. The gameplay for the SNES came through very well.
And it's fairer in difficulty as well.
@@Bloodreign1 Also, the controls were alot better too... They were more forgiving!
Caramba me surpreendi com a versão do super nintendo,apesar de ser mais simples em detalhes em comparação ao arcade,a versão do super não fez feio não. Se reparei bem tem até 1 pouco zoom.
The SNES port was a very good one all things considered.
Foi o melhor port de um game na SNK para o Famicom, bem próximo do original.
Eu joguei nos dois consoles, além de todas as diferenças visíveis eu achei a versão SNES bem mais fácil na dificuldade, agora a do Neo Geo é um absurdo de difícil, também as vozes do SNES são abafadas e algumas falas cortadas, porém curti muito a versão do SNES.
Que versión tarda mas
acho o port de Super Nes de Art of 2 descente !
@@retrono_81 Ahhhhhhhh
É óbvio que o de Snes é inferior ao arcade, MAS é um excelente port, com certeza! O mais impressionante é ter o efeito de zoom, que era uma sensação na época, todo mundo ficou boquiaberto quando viu o Art of Fighting no Arcade, bonecos enormes no zoom in, e muito bacana se afastar e dar um zoom out. Joguei muito no arcade e no Snes, na época. O mega drive, coitadinho, só recebeu o 1, sem efeito de zoom...
Os finais ficaram bem parecidos no SNES também (não entendo pq algumas revistas da época deram nota baixa para esta versão do jogo)
Jogo de luta sem resposta . É perda total. Igual Mk .
@@scorpionmk6695 Nem se compara a resposta dos controles do Snes no MK1 e no Art of Fighting 2, AoF2 responde corretamente, o MK sim, é pesado, resposta muito lenta aos comandos.
Hhhhaaaa memorias... De quando joguei essa bela inspiração de um pseudo árcade em casa... O cartucho da locadora provavelmente adaptado pro SNES nacional... Ta pra lá de decente essa versão do SNES!!!! Quase tudo esta nele praticamente... Tiveram capricho, pois se pensou no que se poderia fazer mediante as limitações do hardware... Os cartuchos de certas adaptações dos árcades poderiam ser mais potente, com mais memoria, chips extras, mais prazo de reprogramação etc... Mais isso impactava no preço tanto de produzir quanto na venda, por isso certos jogos ficavam abaixo do esperado por essas economias, mais certamente não foi o caso do Art of Fignt2 ... Quem bota defeito jamais sentiu a sensação e a emoção de um molecote remelento ao se deparar com tal game, em que ficou acordado de sexta pra sábado jogando isso a noite inteira hahahahah... Bons tempos
AOF2 is a great 2P game on NeoGeo but the CPU in 1P mode is disgusting. It just reads your inputs and counters accordingly. Whilst the Arcade version is the definitive version, I too agree that the SNES version was a reasonable effort - hardware limitations accepted...
Someone's apparently never played Mortal Kombat 2 lol
THIS game has a disgusting AI..
@@alexhardline2208
Great example tbh Alex. MK2 was equally as unreasonable. Everytime you jump, magically, the opponent would immediately counter with a standing jump kick. As for Kintaro... :eyeroll:
@@NeoGeoNinja81 Except the CPU in MK2 can be cheesed quite easily with certain characters, falling for the same patterns over and over. Kintaro is also piss easy with timed jumpkicks, if you get in a rhythm, you can knock him down each and every single time. MK2 is only hard with Liu Kang, Raiden, Kitana, Mileena, and Raiden, but even Kitana can cheese the CPU quite often.
@@Bloodreign1 I agree with you. In MK2 if u do a good jump playing some characters, enemy will jump too and u can attack him. I dunno there're some "schemes" in AOF 2 too.
@@Marius150PL I've been literally beating the fuck outta my local MVS machine for YEARS and still haven't found any reliable 'patterns' in AOF2... Sometimes the CPU will fall for corner traps, and sometimes it won't. They're ALWAYS ready to counter WHATEVER you throw at them, and they are CHEAP. I am however, one of the few lucky people who could actually reach Geese Howard using multiple characters.That game always gives me one helluva workout everytime I play it! 🥵
Cuando Street Fighter 2 era el rey de la pista en los Arcade donde yo iba (yo fanático claro está), este juego me enamoró, tanto que hasta llame a la compañía que lo vendía (porque su numero estaba pegado a la maquina) imagina un adolescente preguntando el precio de un arcade jajajaja, pero me respondieron y si era muy caro claro, Art of Fighting 2 es una pieza maestra por su sistema de pelea, personajes y música, de verdad las músicas de los escenarios de Yuri y Mickey son excelentes!
Considering the limitations of the super Nintendo it’s not a bad port technically but it’s very much inferior to the arcade.
Expensive arcade machine versus affordable home console, gee I wonder why.
@@Bloodreign1 System limitations aside; they CAN make the home versions alot better if they wanted to, but then people will STOP going to the arcades...
@@OtomoTenzi SNES was nowhere close to Neo-Geo and still is a pretty decent port. The Genesis version of Art Of Fighting 1 could've been better.
It's of course inferior because of its cart size of only 32 megs while the arcade was 170 megs I think. If the SNES version had at least 50- 60 megs could had done greater things. Perhaps bigger sprites, stronger sound, cover a lot of the missing details on the backgrounds and maybe work more on the music (which was already very good) but it had only 32 meg..what can you expect with that?
No .snes donk kong trilogia. Crono trigger star fox sfc the best
ARCADE NEO GEO WINS
SNES VERY GOOD PORTS
O meu sonho era ter um Neo geo (E até hoje!!!);e quando fui na locadora alugar esse jogo, fiquei doido!!! Me diverti muito!! Só fui ver os sprites na capa dos cartuchos Neo geo...E hj jogo esse game no meu celular.
Esse jogo faz parte da minha infância
Great Snes port according to its limitations,only fools complain
Bruh, you're WAY better off with the PS2 port or the Neo Geo CD port. That's why fools complain.
@@TS-yz3ud The home version on the SFC is quite good in it's own right, and you can actually beat the damned thing far easier than the PS2, arcade, or Neo CD versions. So the OP is indeed correct.
@@Bloodreign1 Yes, I've always known the Super NES port of AOF 2 was aight.
The snes version is just a heavily striped down version of the Neo geo game since it has a lot of missing background animation, and is letterboxed presumably to improve performance and certain background objects are redrawn to accommodate for the snes versions limited resolution.
The SNES port is super impressive. Doubt Sega could've made it that good.
As músicas do SNES estão bem parecidas com as do Arcade e com um pouco de remix
As musicas sao as melhores, aqui no youtube tem elas eu escuto direto no radio altao to nem ai kkkkkkkkk musica dos jogos nos anos 90 e 80 sao fodas
@@faelgamesantigos5957 Concordo. E as músicas da SNK então, são muito boas
Eu acho o remix do SNES bem melhor que a original do Neo Geo. Pega a tela do Lee, por exemplo. A do Snes é bem mais animada e me deixa no Hype de jogar.
@@machadoviewer Music has never really been an issue with the SNES sound chip... It's the voice samples that usually get watered-down or cut out in some places.
@@OtomoTenzi I never payed much attention to this. I will from now on!
Esse port de Art of Fighting 2 pra Super Nintendo ficou muito descente.! Jogando modo vs pra 3 jogadores, lembra muito o que seria um KOF caseiro pro Super Nintendo! Bom demais.!
Gonna love Art of Fighting! 😉💪
Weirdly SNES seems to have a darker tone, so I prefer it. Even though arcade obviously has better graphics.
Bacana, sempre achei essa versão de SNES bem competente desde criança, a wold heroes 2 também ficou um luxo.. Mk2 nem se fala, tenho preferência pelo mega drive mais tiro meu chapéu para algumas conversões de arcade no SNES, samurai n... Street peca pelo controle... Nisso mega deu banho!!!!
●24-Bit Vs 16-Bit
●NEO GEO MVS = 178 MEGS/22.25 MB
●SNES = 32 MEGS/4 MB
Snes fico muito top, claro que arcade é melhor mas pra quem comprava um cartucho desses saia no lucro pq jogava sem perde quase nd fico muito bom, o mega quando tinha port saia td bugado ruim demais o snes é melhor si tratanto de port
Arcade wins, mas a versão do snes tbm é bem legal tenho aki na coleção tmj ai
The NEO GEO is probably the most underrated console/arcade system ever made. 2D powerhouse, not even consoles several years newer could handle NEO GEO ports arcade perfect without expansion accessories. I own several Neo GEO games on my XB1X I still play because they're so damn good.
Same here. I collect these old Neo Geo games whenever I get a chance. Aof 1 and Aof 2 are must have games in my opinion .
Actually each Neo Geo Arcade used so many Rom/Ram in each game .. that’s why they original game so expensive..
It's because SNK wasted a lot of megs every time. While Nintendo and Sega were still in the 24-32 megs category, SNK was in the 150-170 megs level...while Nintendo and Sega were designating a couple of megs for the music, SNK was using around 20 alone for that category, and so on, an important number of megs for every section, graphics, sound, effects, etc. this is why all of their games were awesome, as they used a lot of size and sources to build games with arcade quality.
@@carlossantavilla2997 it’s not that simple. By your logic then the CD add on by Sega and NEC should have allowed for perfect Neo-Geo ports. As the meg count on these cartridges was measured in bits and you need 8 of those to make a Mega by te and a CD can hold 750 of those. The Neo Geo was also powered by the same Motorola 6800 that powered the mega drive. It had a bunch of other coprocessors for scaling, fx, colors and also a large for the time RAM to hold the big assets in memory while playing. Why those CD based games for a while couldn’t keep up. The Saturn even with the RAM expansion had less Ram than a Neo Geo.
@@sloppynyuszi You won't believe just how many times I've already gone over this with the others... MOST of those problems/issues with porting these kinds of games on the SNES could've been solved if Nintendo had opted for the faster and cheaper Motorola 68000 chip instead... The FACT that this chip is still being mass-manufactured and used in electronics applications even to this day, is a testament to how practical it was. With a faster and more powerful chip that ran at 12MHz, plus just a little bit more onboard RAM, all that would be required to retain most of the game original content would be LARGER cartridges. And the control response issues in these games could just be a direct result of lazy-ass programmers who probably didn't have all the right tools to work with back then at the time?
the jump in kick doesn't feel weak with snes version
takara making a very good ports for the nintendo consoles in that years, the snes is a very powefull console , also the gameboy games like netou kof 95, 96, real bout fatal fury are a very good adaptations from the monster of neogeo.
It just sucks that there wasn't a Mega Drive port for this. Also, there were other consoles with better SNK games than the likes of the Nintendo consoles.😏
Mega Drive>Super NES
Game Gear>Game Boy
@@TS-yz3ud STUPID
@@TS-yz3ud SEGA GAYBOY
@@TS-yz3ud CONSOLE IS NOT POWERFUL THAN THE SNES
@@TS-yz3udALL HAIL BOB
In my opinion, I think they really should have left out the zooming effect on the SNES version and just made the sprites as BIG as possible; like Samurai Shodown on the Genesis... That way, it could've played better/faster/smoother and put alot less stress on the already slow-ass CPU. And doubling up on the memory with 64-meg cart size (to hold more graphics and higher quality sound effects) couldn't hurt either! 🤔
I think different: The sprite size doesn't matter all. What matter is how responsive are the controls, how faithful (not in graphic terms, because we are talking about consoles that couldn't match the arcades) is to the arcade. Samurai Shodown on Snes is a more complete and faithful game. Genesis port lost a lot of moves, one character entirely, and while the sprites are bigger, the backgrounds are much more detailed and beautiful on Snes. Of course, if the characters would be bigger, it would be even better, but still, it's the best port of the 16 bit consoles.
@@protossevolution3361 You won't believe just how many times I've already gone over this with the others... MOST of those problems/issues with porting these kinds of games on the SNES could've been solved if Nintendo had opted for the faster and cheaper Motorola 68000 chip instead... The FACT that this chip is still being mass-manufactured and used in electronics applications even to this day, is a testament to how practical it was. With a faster and more powerful chip that ran at 12MHz, plus just a little bit more onboard RAM, all that would be required to retain most of the game original content would be LARGER cartridges. And the control response issues in these games could just be a direct result of lazy-ass programmers who probably didn't have all the right tools to work with back then at the time?
thank you for uploading!
I love this videos.
SNES is a Descent port it even retains the zooming in and out which the inferior genesis couldn't do
Actually, with a ram upgrade, the Megadrive/Genesis could have gotten this game and with the zooming as it had basically the same processors as the Neo Geo. That version probably would have been even better than the Snes version as the Snes hardware was pretty slow.
@@Imadeyourun You gave a smart answer, unlike that cuckoo guy you replied to.
@@Imadeyourun Maybe SEGA should've really went with THAT idea instead of trying to focus on FAILED systems like the 32X... Who knows? They prolly could've dominated the 16-bit fighting game market if things really went well! 🤔
@@OtomoTenzi
True. The 32X was the greatest mistake that Sega had ever made.
@@Imadeyourun The SegaCD was all they really needed to compete with the SNES, in certain categories like RPGs for example; which the SNES truly dominated during the 16-bit era... But they just HAD to go ahead and make that stupid dumbass mistake with the 32X; which pretty much KILLED them financially in the USofAIDS! 👎👎👎
ORIGINAL NEO GEO ALWAYS THE BEST & AUTHENTIC/SMOOTH TO PLAY WITH 😁😁
A versão do SNES onde a capacidade técnica e inferior a da placa MVS não fez tão feio, só achei a jogabilidade um pouco imprecisa, tem momentos que os comandos não respondem direito
É verdade
I broke a brand-new Capcom Power Stick trying to play this game one summer.. At first, I thought I was going MAD!!! 🤪
@@scorpionmk6695 Truth be told!
Depois de SFA2, na minha opinião, esse foi o melhor fighting game já lançado para o SNES. E outra coisa, as composições das músicas ficaram melodicamente, não tecnicamente em termos de arranjo, taxas de amostragem; essas coisas, mais bonitas que a do Arcade Neo Geo, porém repito: é só minha opinião!
Olha snes teve bastante fighting Games bons foras os que você já citou, eu adicionaria street fighter 2 o turbo e o super, mk 2 e mk3 (o UMK3 não pois tinha muitos bugs) e killer instinct, world heroes 2, fatal Fury special foram boas conversões também
Eu acho q ficou bom. Snes tem até efeito zoom! Como é possível? Mega drive não tem isso
Mode 7 se não me engano
@Café & Fama Isso se AOF2 TIVESSE no Mega Drive. Aí é outra história.
Comparativa bastante desigual, el neogeo fue un monstruo hecho para la lucha en 2d. Igualmente excelente Port de snes con su zoom
Neo geo era um monstro mas Snes nao fez feio nao um excelente port
24 megas creo
@@matmathew7941 32 megs actually, but wish they could've used 64... 😏
Dou risada dos que colocam "Mega Drive Wins". O Mega nem tem esse jogo huahua. Mas falando sério, a "conversão" e não "Port" do SNES é honesta. O jogo foi refeito para o SNES aguentar o tranco. Se tivesse mais velocidade de processador e um pouco mais de memória, certamente ficaria melhor. E depende muito de quem faz o Port também. Se todos os ports fossem feitos pela própria SNK, certamente teríamos jogos melhores.
só imagine se esse jogo usasse 8mbs?
@RetroHacks sim
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Muito boa a versão snes
I don't like the fact of SNES not having a english version.
By the time this game came out, Takara had already stopped working with Nintendo... You can blame it on Nintendo for cutting ties with Takara. Takara had already began working on PS1 and Saturn titles like Battle Arena Toshinden. That's why SAURUS released AOF2 instead, but only in Japan!
Si tenemos en cuenta que la versión de super nintendo tiene 32 megas, y la de neo geo 178 megas indiscutiblemente es mejor version de la super nintendo. Porque? Porque en una quinta parte de megas se consigue un juego que da la talla, estoy seguro que la NEO GEO no hubiera tenido cojones a sacar la misma calidad si el juego hubiera tenido 32 megas.
Un gran Port , a pesar todas las limitaciones del snes en esos 32 megas no se perdió la esencia del juego
No Snes esse jogo só lançou no japão?
infelizmente sim.
Saurus did the porting, but they did not have any corporate offices outside of Japan... And Takara USA (who ported AOF1) had already gone out of business by then.
Porque só saiu no Japão a versão do Snes?
Because Takara USA had already went BANKRUPT by then... 😞
AOF3 was originally planned to be released for the N64, but the project was scrapped! 👎🗑
SNK took over the ports on the PS1, Saturn, and Dreamcast; while Takara went back to developing toys and kid's games.
Takara DID introduce the Battle Arena Toshinden series, and that did pretty good in the arcades and home consoles as well.
Neo Geo >>>>> lixo do snes. 😂
as músicas ficaram muito boas no SNES
Decent effort on the SNES
Hello again, my brother!
@@OtomoTenzi hello
Qual é do snes é qual é do arcade ai pois ambas são bem iguais snws wins =D
Essa foi foda kkkkkk
Eae Bubsy
E pq n fizeram Samurai Shodown desse jeito p Snes?
Arcade wins!
Is the SNES version easier because the arcade version is so hard it's unplayable.
It is much fairer in difficulty indeed.
Gráficos arcade
Som sfc .jogabilidade sfc
Diversão sfc
Very poor stages on SFC, but the game is ok.
Arcade Wins !
Not even close. MVS for the win
Ficou Melhor que o Samurai :-D (Y) Shodow no Super Nintendo...
Não tou ouvindo nada no estágio de Geese Howard.
Onde consigo a rum pra snes
Neo geo ⭐️
So joguei no snes, mas no arcade não tem pra ninguém; até os combo são diferente!!!
Arcade is bad ass
Either snes is too eazy or neogeo is too hard
Both, SNES was designed for the home gamer, while the Neo Geo version was designed to eat your money.
@@Bloodreign1 Plus if the SNES version was just as good as the Neo Geo version, people will stop going to the arcades to play it!
nice but snes version was made by saurus and controls is hard to play
How many controllers did you break? 😆
@@OtomoTenzi no controls destroyed just different buttons than firts version or position
@@alubaldini I tried playing this game on the Capcom Power Stick, and I think I completely wrecked and destroyed the joystick in just one summer... NO gamepad would ever stand up to this kinda abuse! 😆
@@OtomoTenzi The game, like the Arcade, has certain patterns that to defeat the CPU you don't need to do many powers, sometimes you just block and kick down or lower the spirit and throw them
@@alubaldini Yeargh, I know but sometimes I would just like to 'play around' a little bit and experiment with different cheaps and tactics. I know that throws are quite cheap and pretty easy to pull off in this game. Mickey has pretty good grab range, and he is VERY CHEAP. But the CPU is always so unforgiving and gets me everytime! That goddamn Capcom Power Stick was just a useless, crappy $80 paper weight! 😝
The constant zooming in and out really adds nothing to the game
I think its an original feature,it zoom when you are near your opponent to get a nice view of the combos and zooming out helps you to zone espace... In that era fighting games were still in developement and some "odd" features were saw in the times.
Noway0ut haha I agree. But I still think that the zooming in is more disorienting than helpful to performing the combos
@@Nobunaga1983 Yes, i suppose thats why this has not been used anymore lol
@@Nobunaga1983 HAR!!!
Saudades do meu Neo geo CD
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I don’t think this ever came up for the Genesis...did it? Maybe that was just part one but personally I think it would’ve been better on the Genesis because it was zooming in and out crap doesn’t add anything to the game at all.
Genesis never got AoF 2 at all, only the SFC/SNES got a port, the only non-SNK made console that got one. Like the PS1 being the only non-SNK made console for years that got Samurai Shodown 2 and in Japan only.
@@Bloodreign1 Sega prolly didn't manage to acquire the rights to port it, as Saurus had already ported the SNES version... 😞
Sega in-house ported AOF1 on the Genesis previously, and it was pretty decent actually.
I shure would've LOVED to see how they would've done if they had ported AOF2 as well.
This game, Samura Shodown 2, plus KOF'94 just before the Genesis got discontinued; couldn't hurt honestly.
Do you think they would've tried to port it on the Sega CD instead?
As always: good video, bad fighter
O aspect ratio do SNES não está correto
They always use letterboxing in alot of SNES fighting games... This is to hide the fact that the system is heavily underpowered! 👎
This was a horrible port compared to all the other SNK ports. While the AoF1 also had stripped down backgrounds, it at least had a great remixed soundtrack. this one doesn't have anything.
How was SNES able to do the zooming/scaling and not Genesis? Lazy programming from Genesis or technical reasons?
Azaadi Brothers it’s cause of mode 7 on snes. Genesis could pull of the trick using clever programming but the developers were too lazy
@@Nobunaga1983 True,Pier Solar proves that Megadrive can also do Mode 7 effects
Mode 7 can zoom in/out the background layer, but not the fighters.
I assume that the zooming of the characters is done with another technique. In fatal fury special on snes (not ff2) they achieve a little bit of zooming in/out without mode 7, seemingly collapsing the tiles 2-3 pixels to the center of the fighter's image. The result is a slightly distorted image. That's why i assume that the zooming in/out is not much pronounced in art of fighting 1 and 2 on the snes.
Sometimes the proportions in Takuma looks odd when zoomed out...arms seems too big when shooting a fireball, that's why i believe that the zooming out is a programming trick, which works fast and nice in low resolution images, not a true zooming efect, which would be too much for the snes processor without a dsp
Neo Geo e pronto pode chorar a vontade kkkkk
Mega drive wins!
There's no port, it wins nothing.
@@Bloodreign1 YEARGH!!!
Genesis version is better than SNES version
This game never came out on the Genesis.
SNK all the way. SNES and Megadrive versions a poor imitations.
jogabilidade horrivel da versao snes
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