Wood Pellets: The Ultimate Cooking Fuel for Prepper Storage
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- Whether preparing for disaster or simply storing fuel for family cooking time in the backyard, wood pellets are in my opinion the best choice when considering cost, convenience of storage, and efficiency. They provide a long burn time, are much cheaper then commercial charcoal, and have a lot less preparation involved then traditional forest debris or cord wood. Over all this is the best solution in my opinion.
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Good informative video, you more than proved the gasification stove worked much better than the open box,thanks.
Tractor Supply sells Equine bedding pellets year round. This is what I use. 11 oz in my gassifier gets me 1 hour of usable heat. Less than 10cents in material cost.
Bashes on the gassification stove (which clearly burns better) because it supposedly requires "maintenance", proceeds to aid and stir the traditional stove while the wood gas stove burns wonderfully with absolutely no attention required. Man are you blind
I added a little aluminum mesh circle to the base of my mini solo stove. Without stirring and filling the stove to the vent holes, it gave 18 minutes of flame and 35 minutes of glowing hot embers. No stirring, no fuss, no muss! No problems starting with a squirt of lighter fluid. Agree completely!
Great video! It actually answers a lot of questions that I had! Keep them coming!
I've always liked that 180 stove. That was the one I considered getting before getting the Firebox. Great video Joe. I agree with you about the wood pellets
As said by Pastor Joe of Viking preparedness said; if Davey Crocket had a bic lighter he would have used it. Nice video. Thanks.
+Delbert Lloyd Yes, he would have. Nothing wrong with using one for sure. I personally enjoy the more challenging methods but I can't/won't look down my nose at someone who uses a lighter. Thanks Delbert!
Indians parked their bows after seeing a rifle.. LOL
Man, yes those wood pellets are great---and they really taught me how to use the stove! Thanks for your vid. Jules
+steinwaygoat They will do that. There doesn't seem to be any cheating or much fudge room with ventilation, that is for sure.
Wood pellets also provide for a clean burn with barely no smoke.
This video was perfect. Your "bucket" video got me thinking about using wood pellets with my bio stove. Thanks!
Thank you very much Rob, I appreciate that greatly.
My dog's food which is about that size will fill up 2.5 5 gallon buckets. But I plan getting some pellets to keep for something, lol.
I've consistently gotten 45 minute burn times in a wood gas stove made from two soup cans. plenty of time to boil 4 cups of water (2 batches of 2 cups each). I usually start them (and you're right, they absolutely CAN be a pain) with dryer lint about halfway dipped in paraffin wax. It usually takes about three minutes for the pellets to really catch. I guess I wasn't aware that other people hadn't heard of these. I have never measured how much I use. Whatever it takes to fill the smaller inner soup can to just below the air inlet holes near the top of the inner can. Maybe a cup and a half. I also had some concerns years ago of whether the pellets would absorb moisture (left out in my garage). That has absolutely not been a problem.
+LynnLeFey1 I agree whole heartedly with your observations and comments. Those little red disk firestarters work great at getting the pellets going. One of these days I am going to do a series of burn time test just so I figure out X amount of pellets will burn X amount of time.
+Feral Woodcraft I didn't mention in the first post, but the 45 minute burn time for wood pellets compares to about 15 to 18 minutes from using stick litter from my back yard, either oak or ash. So, the pellets are MUCH better than just random twigs. I'm very happy you put out this video. Thanks.
Thanks a million for that demo especially with the W-Gas-Stove...I was going to give that a try and see now that it is not going to be as effective for me. Brilliant.
Don't count it out yet. I had a bit of an epiphany today and it actually allows it to work much better in a gasifier then I'd previously had experience with. I will be posting an update to this. Thanks for watching!
I wouldn't bother with the stove on the left. The wood gas stoves with pellets kick ass, with no fussing.
Great idea Joe.
Thanks for the video
+Eat Carbs Thanks for the watch Mark!
Very nice, I have never used wood pellets before. It looks like a pretty convenient way to have fuel stored for emergencies. Thanks for the tip
+campfire52 My thoughts as well. And the burn time being what it is, it really is a win win. Thanks!
Thank you, I wondered about this .
Very cool .. definitely a nice option!
+P701 Thanks for the support man!
Great video, thank for showing this Joe.
Yeah man, I love highlighting gear and resources I find especially useful. Thanks!
Yeah man, u love highlighting gear and resources I find especially useful. Thanks!
Hello my outdoors friend, thank you for sharing this very informative video. This is great information. All the best to you. Stay healthy. 🤗
I really like those wood pellets! I really have to check them out. Thanks for sharing!
+AdventureCamping Enjoy! Thanks!
Good information. Once that gasification stove got going the flames looked cool at around 9:30.
+sameold77 Yeah, it burns better the closer to the bottom the fuel line gets. The main problem is it takes soooo long to get there. But yea, the gasification process is just really cool to watch.
Enjoyed my friend and may the blessings of the Lord be upon you all.
+Randy Parker Thanks Randy!
Good stuff Joe! I'm going to check on the wood pellet kitty litter.. Great idea.
+Wingman115 Thanks Jon, I appreciate it!
this was a very informative video and an awesome idea with using the pellets with the stoves. Sub'd your channel! I've gotta try out those wood pellets, thanks man.
Great video Joe. I use wood pellets to hear my house. I actually started using softwood pellets this year. They burn even hotter and are more efficient! Go figure. A squirt of lighter fluid or alcohol will get them going as well. You can even use a squirt of hand sanitizer.
+Blue Mountain Bushcraft and Outdoors i like that hand sanitizer idea will be trying it out
+Blue Mountain Bushcraft and Outdoors Ha, really? That is good to know! I hope I can find some soft pellets down here somewhere, those would be nice to have. Thanks!
I made wood pellets and softer is hotter. What most do not realize is that softwood pellets and hardwood pellets are pressed through a die giving them the same density. Thus softwood pellets burn hotter with the same longevity as the hard ones.
@@edmacallum7003 Regular liquid charcoal fluid is very fast.
I heard a suggestion elsewhere to use your used cooking oil as a fire starter, assuming the quantity you have doesn't justify going the biodiesel route.
Weber makes a charcoal cube starter the is $5 for 30 units, available at the box stores. I also use Duraflame Firestat cubes at $5 for 18 cubes, which I break in half, then crumble in the middle of the wood pellets. Mush cheaper than wax impregnated hockey pucks. I have three wood gas stoves that burn for 35 to 45 minutes, depending for the wind speed. I use 1&1/2 cups - takes 4 to 6 minutes to start gassing then it goes to town. Use hickory or apple for cooking meat; stay away from kitty litter pellets as they are usually pine and will screw up your stove and pans. I also have a firebox stove that the pellets work well in, again may need wind screen. Also place a small piece of rabbit wire over the fuel fill hole to help keep the pellets inside the firebox. Wood pellets in a wood gas stove are great - start it and give it five minutes while you do your food preparation then go to town. Savage Citizen you need to do more home work before you start to knock a product and I don;t have a dog in this fight just don't like people who put out incorrect information. Perhaps you should measure your wood pellets before you have to eat your words or pellets.
Ron , those weber cubes are about $3.50 here and i agree with you they work great . i call em poor mans wet fire .
Mr. Savage Citizen, I watch your videos and they generally provide some very good ideas. I just think your are off base with some of your information about the wood gas stoves, nothing personal.
Great video and very good information
+HP Bushcraft Thanks HP
never used them but a great idea and impressive demo.
+pjculbertson55 Thanks, I appreciate it
Great vid Sir !! I have a gasifier and my only issue is its finnicky in the wind. I usually have a screen for that issue. I'll definitely look into those fire bricks and bucket in the near future. Great tips !!
Interesting video to say the least. I most certainly did enjoy watching. I am a big fan of using wood pellets for fuel.
Nevertheless, I have an Ohuhu stove. The one you called a cheap Chinese model. LOL.
Actually, I love it.
But my experience is that while most people insist on 'TOP' lighting these stoves; they are much much easier to light using the traditional fire lay.
Even with wood pellets.
Try putting a couple of cotton balls smeared with a bit of petroleum jelly in the bottom of the firebox. (Please don't buy that commercial crap) Add wood pellets on top. Then simply pick the tiny stove up and light the cotton balls through the vents in the bottom of the firebox. Presto! NOTHING 'finicky' about it!
This allows the simple physics of traditional fire building to 'shine'.
By the way, please note at the 2:20 mark of your own video the cheap Chinese wood/gas stove is indeed at operating temperature and is burning much hotter than the non-wood/gas stove.
Not to mention that with the traditional bottom-up fire method it is extremely efficient.
At any rate, I suggest you give my suggestions a try. You may discover that our ancestors survived by a very simple understanding of just how a campfire works best.
And thanks for mentioning the use of firebricks. Safety is of utmost concern.
Overall I think you produced a valuable and informative video. I thank you for that. Well done.
Word pellets work great in gasification stoves. Once it starts you don't have to do anything so I don't know why you keepy trashing the gasification stoves. In my experience they work much better in the gasification stoves than in the regular stoves, and you get a cleaner, less smokey burn because of the gasification You don't have to stir it like you keep saying. Even in your video you didn't have to stir it even once, while you kept having to stir the other stove.
Nice one Joe! That "goat food" is really handy stuff. I think that a small resealable bag of of those in your car pack would be a good idea to have with you. After all, who can guarantee that they will breakdown and end up waiting for a few hours in the dead of winter where there's warm shelter, hot coffee, that's close by to your vehicle so you are there when the recovery truck turns up - most likely scenario for 'when things go wrong', IMHO. - then don't bother with it. If not, then a small stove, old stainless saucepan lid and a 1lb bag of those wood pellets seem to make real good sense to me.
Wishing you and the "size 7 Spalding twins" all the best as always, young Sir ;)
Edit: Looking forward to the wax firestarter video, Joe!
+MrTatts64 LOL!! You're a nut man! No pun intended lol. Yes, these are very good to have as a "just in case". Well at least in my opinion. I'll be getting on that wax video in a week so most likely. Thanks!
Good info!
Thx!
Thank you
I found them in stock at my local tractor supply. $4 for a 40lb bag.
That's great man! They've already stopped carrying them here, unfortunately.
Lighters rule! The ferro rod or magnesium and ferro are fun but lighters are first choice for me. I carry all the fire starting array, of course, but Bic rules, lol.
I pack deer corn in 6" burlap sacks that I carry in my survival pack. The wood pellets will be a cool pack to add to my gear and I'm headed to Academy to grab some now, sweet.
If anyone wants a small bag to try out without buying 40lbs check out Lowes or Home Depot they have small bags of pellets in the bbq grill section.
Have you ever tried using a candle stub, or a small birthday cake type candle as a fire starter ??? Have used birthday cake candles for some time and find them to be quite effective fire starters. Simply light the mini candle and drop it into your fuel pile and wait for the properties of thermodynamics to take its course. Thanks for the tutorial ... Cheers.
good info
+Goddess1Princess Thank you and thank you for watching!
Another good video Joe!. FYI. Thou I really don't know what the difference is, Smoking pellets could be easier to find in some cases. especially in the Summer. One question thou. How do you think that smoking chips would work? They are nice and dry. Maybe a mixture of the two. Chips and pellets. Might be a bit easier to start.
Great idea. I bet just the shape of these would lend to EASY making and soaking of these in accelerants like vaseline etc etc to store in small baggies or fire kits, etc etc. Quick dip in the substance, store 3-10 in a few baggies -- waterproofed and in many kits and whatnot also!
+Barry Dutton Ha! You are a step ahead on those fire starters I promised to show how to make ;) Very observant Sir!
--- the stirring creates an issue if you have anything cooking on top though, be it a pot of water or an actual chunk of food/meat etc.
Excellent information! Question about initial igniters. Do you think placing a waxed cotton round in there and lighting that would also stay lit long enough to ignite the wood pellets?
How do pellets work in a firebox stove? Mine seems pretty well ventilated, but I thought I would ask. I'm definitely going to have to give those a try!
They work fantastically. Every bit as good as you saw here.
Perfect product for putting into my portable 6 inch cooking container ...
+John Lord Yep, that is a good place to store and pack them. That is usually what I fill my stoves with for storage if they are not of the folding variety.
Can also be found as kitty litter. Good as long as you keep them dry. Can be used again if they are dry, but they crumble and smolder a bit.
Good overall video, but i think the gasifier worked better. With a small piece of metal mesh in the bottom, i think it would have been great.
Either way, looks like a Really good system .
Thanks
Steve
You don't pay attention to The gazefication stove That actually works pretty well without having to interveen AT ALL. your vidéo prooves the efficiency of this stove but you seem to choose to ignore it...
It's also used as a bio cat litter in the UK. You can buy it in 30 l bags for 12 quid. I'm testing it at this moment 😁 on the silver fire scout
From the Camera view it looked like the wgs burned the best .
Did you stir the gasification stove? Cause you kept bashing it, but looked like it was kicking butt without having to do anything to it.
What's exciting is holding and sipping on, a hot cup of Tea/Coffee with not too much hassle. ; ) These pellets do get the job done. A great emergency go-to.
PS: The Lexada has a grate that keeps the bottom holes open for more oxygen.
Great tips ... what do you think of adding an occasional twig or 3 once the pellets catch?
I typically do add fuel that is readily available as well but didn't here for the purposes of the video. I don't really add it for any reason other then the ingrained human need to poke at the fire LOL That said, I can't see it being a bad thing in anyway. Thanks!
Excellent observation And probably arising from the same place that Poking Fun at our fellow campers comes from. ; ) Poke Poke
well sir, I'm definitely going to have to see about getting me a similar setup. what wood burning camp stove works as well as that?
+Will That is the 180 Flame from 180 Tack Stoves. Firebox Stoves work just as well as that too. Thanks!
I always get a 2 foot beatiful hot flame In my similar gasification stove. reloading it is a pain though because of choked airflow though
You like messing in fire. The gas burner did it's thing very well with no messing.
interesting product
+Donny B Thanks for the support as usual Donny!
Place the bottom part of a paper egg carton on a cookie sheet or sheet of foil and fill with wood pellets. Pour over them a mixture of carefully melted wax with some petroleum jelly stirred in. Let cool. Cut apart into a dozen nice fire starters. Light one to ignite your stove wood pellets.
It does seem that with the proliferation of wood pellets BBQs that they'll be around all summer, but it seems the ones designed for BBQs are about twice the price as home heating ones
This is cool Joe ! Never seen this product. Doesn't hurt to have alternatives when things go bad. Please show more. Anything on a larger heat source for maybe a room ?......PAPA DUKES
+john rossi As it stands I don't have a stove setup for heating a room. Ventilation being the main issue there. If that changes I will certainly do so.
Eye Thank You !......PAPA DUKES
Seems to be a great alternative fire source. Are there any chemicals used as a binding agent that I need to worry about or are they strictly compressed wood?
+papaschuette The bag says under ingredients that is is hardwood with less then 1% ash. I was about to answer your question framed as a guess but I decided to google it instead. Check out this video, it's pretty cool how these things are made.
th-cam.com/video/wwuK1JdVPJA/w-d-xo.html
Feral Woodcraft That is pretty cool how they're made. Almost no human interaction accept a few monitoring computers.
Yeah that is pretty cool. They didn't mention any binder that I heard of but given it's safe to breath the fumes/smoke, I'd bet not.
Feral Woodcraft Now that I think about it, it wouldn't be to smart to use some kind of toxic chemicals. Heating your house with them would be asking for trouble. Thanks so much for the information.
The company I work for produces wood pellets, the only binding agent we use is starch.
Great job Joe, lots of good info and certainly not something I would have thought of. Nice!!!
+A J Taylor Thanks AJ, I appreciate it Sir!
Much safer than storing liquid fuels or propane. Storing too much of those in your home or garage could void your homeowners insurance and might violate municipal fie codes. This could not only increase your risk of having a fire but cause your insurance company to refuse to pay out even if the stored fossil fuels had nothing to do with the fire. You could use in a small stove in your fireplace if it is too dangerous to cook outside due to OPSEC concerns. The biolite with the kettle pot and grill top attachment is ideal for this and you can do a little bit of charging off of it.
Unfortunately, I haven't had the pleasure of using a Biolite but I hope to at some point. I completely agree with your assessment. Thanks!
The gasifier stove win hehe, when it start to gasify you dont have problem.
Could not find em in a home builder type
Store today, can't find em as cat litter yet either! I keep some with my biolite!
Yeah, they start becoming more and more rare this time of year. I can't even special order them without paying a shipping charge to the store on off seasons. Tractor Supply seems to keep them around the longest around here.
+MrFullautoak47 Try finding a Traeger grill dealer if you have one near you. That's what they use in their grills with the automatic feeder system. They stock pellets all year long. Usually have all sorts of smoking chips, too. If none are available locally, you can order them from an online dealer.
+Charlie Boy Thanks for the tip! Very good info to have.
If you can only get them certain times of the year, you could use wooden pellet cat litter, that's what I use in my gasification stove.
ATB Mike
Wow! Talk about revelation!! I didn't even know those existed!! Thank you!
Lol...you guys got great ideas ! We have three cats.......PAPA DUKES
+Macbushcraft Great idea mate! Just be sure to use the fresh stuff. Taints your food and coffee flavours with the second hand variety ;)
+MrTatts64 Good point ! lol
+Feral Woodcraft glad I could help ATB Mike
My concern is the compound of the pellets and safety or toxicity with food, when burning.
great idea, never thought of using it for cat litter though. anybody that uses it please comment
Yes, please do lol this just sounds weird lol. Thanks Nissan! (How many miles on yours? I managed 390k before she quit on me)
right now we have 4 with close to 600000 total. one over 200000, I drive a Hemi Ram truck now lol
+nissanlord NICE! I'd say you got your money's worth out of them. I loved my Nissan but I needed something with more towing and load capacity so when mine tossed a block I moved on.
Been using it for cat litter for my 2 cats about 9 years now. Turns to saw dust when they urinate. Absorbs the urine order but not bowel movement. The Equine Pine pellets are the same as the Feline Pine Pellets which are sold in store for 3 times the cost.
It will take cats a week or two to transition to the texture under their feet if they are used to another kind of litter. I did half and half during the transition.
You doing the same thing in the box that complained about having to do in the gas one. Comon man
ok so im thinking a small bag in my BOB using them and some traditional wood together have you tried that and how well did it work? after you wet them and they dry out have you tried to relight them for later use this is the most exited i have bin about a new prep in a long time i guess because i have never seen it before will be looking to get some and start experimenting with them again another great video thanks
+ED MaCallum Once they get wet and dry, they turn into a powder which isn't useful for much as far as I can tell (well I do have a use but that will be another video). Yes, I have used them in conjunction with regular wood and it works just fine. They are certainly light enough to carry around a good bit in a kit or bag for a "just in case", good thinking there!
i was out today and thought wow i could have used those pellets even though it was 70 degrees the dead fall was mostly still wet so it took longer but i still got it going
Your cheap Chinese gasification stove seems to be much easier to use with the pellets. You were constantly stirring the firebox stove but not once in the gasifire, and yet it was doing what it was designed to do. Or did you just not show all the attention you directed to the Chinese stove?
I just twizzle some hand sanitizer over the pellets and it works great.
If you use pine pellets and fill the stove up more.
The gasification stove will blaze way harder..
Also start your fire with wood then pour your pellets in..
Nice video... Good info
+Bryan Lucas Thanks Bryan, I hope you find it helpful.
Lol those are what I use for cat litter so I actually always have a great supply of them.
So in speaking in your last video why not just say on the bucket it's wood pellets? I am trying to weight the difference between the two. Neither I my mind would be something most people would steal. Just curious and have been thinking on this since your last video.
Well, around here, woof pellet house stoves aren't *that* common. In my mind seeing a label saying wood pellets would bring more curiosity the goat feed. That may totally be in my mind though.
+Feral Woodcraft Well it could be an regional thing, just thinking of the areas that I have lived in and it wouldn't be a big deal to see wood pellets. Either way it's a great idea.
Clean up the area of spillage before starting.
Tried this the other day....didn't last long at all. 25 minutes burning, wouldn't boil 2 cups of water. (Gasification type)
L.O.L That cheap Chinese stove kicks butt- notice he didn't need to stir that one.
"I love me some fat wood" #Survival on Purpose.
There has GOT to be a better way to load the pellets into those stoves than using your hand! So much fell on the ground.
Firestarter for wood pellets ....a block of wax or an old candel and a tiny grater ...save space and weight ...you don't need a fire starter that contains sawdust...you already have a stove full x
03:32 I guess you could say you'd be 'hard pressed' to find a better fuel! 👉👉 😎
just add a few drops of alcohol and it will start up with one strike
Tie his hands and he would be speechless!!
And good burn time .
Fire bricks ,cool beans
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question was cat litter?
lol
interesting subject cheers
+Tim Leaning Nope, wood pellets for home heating. Thanks!
Bro the gasification stove showed us much more about you and what you think about the chinese.
I've heard pellets can combust. Have you heard that?
+Lellobeetle As in blow up?
Feral Woodcraft Combust into a flame without external assistance. I wouldn't necessarily label it as blowing up, though.
Ah, no I have not. But you do have me wondering now and am going to look into it. Thanks!
Hopefully you're not in hell,so you're pretty safe.
A 12"x 12" piece of Carbon Fiber covered by a small section of aluminium foil will protect anything under your stove and is a lot lighter than fire bricks.
You would have to keep them away from your chickens I don’t think a belly full of wood is good for them
put some sticks in first , you will get a rip roaring fire going.
Hello..i use the pellets in a IKEA hobostove for cooking and heating up my small tipitent with a open roof-vent and also for cooking in may chinese woodgasstove....for a better airflow i use a round ventprotection from a computervent at the bottom of the IKEA hobo and the woodgasstove.. ca. 1/4 obove the original bottom places..sorry for my bad english...i do not often have a chance to use it..:-(
Get a simple theory gear stove.
The gasifier worked better.
That 'China' wood gas stove is tops... the problem is the user who has not read the instructions and is pimping TH-cam views without pellet gasification stove knowledge. Search Ohuhu for how to etc.
I've always liked that 180 stove. That was the one I considered getting before getting the Firebox. Great video Joe. I agree with you about the wood pellets
+n8mayfield It is a good stove, I have been really impressed with it thus far. Thanks Nate!