@lorenzo Alessandrini No In the original story it was just bates. When he and Alyssa were buried, it was Alyssa that suffocated instead of Bates. The mash up I'm making it now, follows Dan Barrows (Aka: Edward). In his battle against Bobby Barrows,George Maxwell and Dick Hamilton.
@lorenzo Alessandrini The plot is basically this. Mary Barrows gave birth to twins, one was a demon and the other one was normal. Dan barrows (AKA: Edward) was a born a normal child instead of the demonic baby that he was in the original The story is told through his POV Showing his life with his demonic psycho brother Bobby and his crazy mother Mary. Until the arrival of Jennifer, where he develops a deep infatuation with her and decides to keep her for himself. (How it connects to the ghost head story line?) Imagine like this: (George Maxwell is Helen Maxwell's brother) After The scissorsman is defeated, Helen adopted Dan becoming his legal guardian but she started to worry about Dan and Jennifer's Relationship so she send Dan to spend some time away with her brother. While in there he becomes a assistance to George helping him on his project. He actually sends Dan to the House to recover the Statue that turned Stephanie into a psycho
@lorenzo Alessandrini Basically I mixed the characters of Edward (From clock tower Psx) and Bates into one character. Like I said it is a mixture of all the clock tower games following just one protagonist. I actually already released two chapters. m.fanfiction.net/s/13430681/1/The-Birth-of-Evil
2:36 - Roger clearly adlibbed, but it works. It makes Bates sound almost impressed with Stephanie's methods. The entire game should have been Bates versus Stephanie -- the game was already a mess, might as well turn it into a demented Home Alone.
*Reads wiki* Bates's voice actor is Roger L. Jackson, best known for voicing the killer in the Scream films, Mojo Jojo in The Powerpuff Girls, in addition to the Cheshire Cat in American McGee's Alice and its sequel. Awesome knew he sounded familiar. XD
I fucking love Bates. Every time he says something remotely corny my friends and I playing would fucking lose it. "That little shit" "HE SAID THE THING!!! HE SAID THE THING!!" He's so over the top American Hollywood style badass, he's just so COOL. It's so out of place, especially considering he's possessing a teenage girl's body. The comedy here is just fucking gold; Every time I do drawings of him between friends I always draw a 30~40 yr old man, too tall for Alyssa's clothes so his navel is always exposed, hairy all over with a 5 o clock shadow and constantly smoking a cigarette. Also let's not ignore the childish joke about how we worship Master Bates. I'm 4 years old
I wished there was an actual image of what Bates/Sho really looked like before he died. That would've been good but they only showed a mere shadow of him with red eyes really but that is in the art/manga.
He was barely born. That’s what he looked like, an infant only a few days old. I rather wish they had shown what could have been him. But otherwise, yeah, I’m pretty sure Bates suffocated at infancy when he and Alyssa (can’t check if my spelling is right while typing this) were buried alive in an effort to avoid the curse of the scissorman twins. By the time they were dug up (not by people who actually wanted to save them, rather by people who just wanted to get back at Maxwell) Bates had suffocated and only Alyssa clung to life.
@@Norinia Bates lived on though through Alyssa, that's why he protects her, maybe it's twisted, but I always found that sweet. I just assume that Bates was a manly version of Alyssa, shirt and jeans or a Japanese suit and tie for clothes and no headband.
It has never been confirmed that Bates/Sho was a real person, in fact there is no mention of him being Alyssa’s twin in neither game nor Drama CD, he is always described as her other personality or alter-ego. In the drama CD Sho seems to care deeply for Alyssa, as if he is in love with her or something.
@@D-Ry I feel as if it would be something like this. I also envisioned something akin to Akira from Live-A-Live: spiky hair, long jacket, maybe in the same vein as Jotaro Kujo, where it’s his school uniform, but he leaves the jacket unbuttoned, and this general “don’t screw around with me” vibe to him. Perhaps even a scar or two, considering how violent he is?
Fun fact! The guy who does Bates voice is the same from the Scream horror movies series. Scream came out in 1996 but Clock tower 2 came out in 1998, pretty interesting!
The idea of your horror game protagonist having a slasher killer alter-ego is so cool! A shame Ghost Head bungled the execution so hard. A much too ambitious idea for an inexperienced designer.
Yeah, it was a shame, although I think it was very hard for the game to do well, aside from the problems of the game itself, it had the problem that in english the voice acting was terribe, except for Jackson's. and in Japanese, Sho is not nearly as interesting as Bates.
I have to imagine not, otherwise he would have found out about the existence of the machine gun, and not think the shotgun was the only gun to automatically hit the zombie's paracidic brain without aiming.
He was a badass that I think is somewhat unappreciated. If this game ever got a remake, I don't think they could top the original. Also, I don't think I've heard all the quotes before but some are pretty funny.
I've played and beaten this game many times over the past decade, and I've missed some of these great quotes! This game had a lot of misused potential, but every Bates line is so quotable and golden! Thanks for posting this video! I'm sure I'll listen to it more than once!
This game birthed the curse of "good idea, bad execution" I mean I didn't think it was terrible because I love Clock Tower, but I wish there was a remake of it.
Omg I've never heard that unused voice clip before, what the hell was that supposed to be for?? lmao it sounded like Bates having a conversation with Daria (which would make Bates seem like Trent Lane lol)
I actually have a theory for that one! In one of the Japanese guidebooks for this game, there's a detailed map of all clickable objects, and which character can interact with them. However, in the guide, it lists the window in the guest bedroom as a clickable object for both Bates and Alyssa, but at no point in the actual released game does it ever become available, meaning they decided to remove it. The bit of text talking about what the window was suppose to do mentions that it was just a conversation click point that would be a reference to a scary movie. Bates' line seems to be mimicking Hannibal Lecter from Red Dragon/Silence of the Lambs. So my theory is that that bit of audio would have gone to that click point, if it had made it to the final cut.
You took the words right out of my mouth xD But yeah,that sexy voice of his and the way he acts makes a person want Bates no matter what,even if hes possessing a girl,I still want him!! :)
It seems the characters name is actually Limbo. He gets falsly labeled as nobody because he first starred in a film called nobody. Hoo boy, that thing has some history.
Apparently all the unused audio of the game is from Playstation Illustrated NEWS if this is to be believed alyssahale.tumblr.com/post/155285408823/an-unused-audio-file-from-playstation-illustrated.
Bates is Alyssa's alter ego/other personality, there's also a version that he's her dead twin but apparently not confirmed info. The little girl is Alyssa's cousin and she's a child possessed by the curse, that's why she could be kicked and stabbed.
Basically you have to lock yourself into Bad Ending G by having Michael get stabbed instead of being in the armor. That'll make Stephanie later stuff his body into the rafters of this room for a scare trigger for Alyssa, where you look at the table, and the corpse falls down from the rafters and summons Stephanie. After escaping, you can then later come back and examine the body that remains on the table~
@@soloparaplaystation6624 Well, blame the English Dub, wrong choice or wrong way for the actor to act as a twin brother. But no matter, it is like of the old games where the funny voice acting, actually makes the experience better.
Bates is literally the only good thing about this game.
Hearing "You're crazy" from a highschooler who sounds like a businessman who smokes a pack a day is ridiculous.
Bates was the best part of the game.
I Once wrote a fan fic about my take on this story
But in my version alyssa dosen't exist bates is the protagonist instead
@lorenzo Alessandrini
It was deleted from the website I used
Now I'm rewriting the story by making a gigantic Mashup of all the clock tower games
@lorenzo Alessandrini
No
In the original story it was just bates.
When he and Alyssa were buried, it was Alyssa that suffocated instead of Bates.
The mash up I'm making it now, follows Dan Barrows (Aka: Edward). In his battle against Bobby Barrows,George Maxwell and Dick Hamilton.
@lorenzo Alessandrini
The plot is basically this.
Mary Barrows gave birth to twins, one was a demon and the other one was normal.
Dan barrows (AKA: Edward) was a born a normal child instead of the demonic baby that he was in the original
The story is told through his POV
Showing his life with his demonic psycho brother Bobby and his crazy mother Mary. Until the arrival of Jennifer, where he develops a deep infatuation with her and decides to keep her for himself.
(How it connects to the ghost head story line?)
Imagine like this:
(George Maxwell is Helen Maxwell's brother)
After The scissorsman is defeated, Helen adopted Dan becoming his legal guardian but she started to worry about Dan and Jennifer's Relationship so she send Dan to spend some time away with her brother. While in there he becomes a assistance to George helping him on his project.
He actually sends Dan to the House to recover the Statue that turned Stephanie into a psycho
@lorenzo Alessandrini
Basically I mixed the characters of Edward (From clock tower Psx) and Bates into one character. Like I said it is a mixture of all the clock tower games following just one protagonist.
I actually already released two chapters.
m.fanfiction.net/s/13430681/1/The-Birth-of-Evil
I love how Roger L Jackson is basically doing the Ghostface voice in this game. I mean that in the best possible way
Fun fact: The voice actor for Bates also voiced Mojo Jojo in the Powerpuff Girls and Ghostface in Scream
We need more player characters like Bates in horror games.
2:36 - Roger clearly adlibbed, but it works. It makes Bates sound almost impressed with Stephanie's methods.
The entire game should have been Bates versus Stephanie -- the game was already a mess, might as well turn it into a demented Home Alone.
*Reads wiki* Bates's voice actor is Roger L. Jackson, best known for voicing the killer in the Scream films, Mojo Jojo in The Powerpuff Girls, in addition to the Cheshire Cat in American McGee's Alice and its sequel.
Awesome knew he sounded familiar. XD
Wonderful research! In a HUGE fan aswell!!
Don't forget Keldorn for the Baldur's Gate fans in the comments.
Lol he was Mojo Jojo? Ahhahaaha
I won't lie, his voice is hot.
Cs P sounds like my boyfriend when he acts dark/serious.
Cs P yes
That’s ghost face from Scream. I used to think his voice was so seductive. Still do, not gonna lie.
thats the same dude who voices ghostface and mojo jojo
@@shortcakeemoji ghosrface?
4:28 Bates is the best, so iconic lmao!
I didn’t know child murder could be so badass!
@@jonjon4634 well, Stephanie Tate is already lost to the Maxwell Curse is basically is now possessed by evil demons.
@@jonjon4634 child? She isnt a little girl anymore, now is a curse doll
I wish Bates was in a better game.
Truly a miss opportunity. I've always wanted to play as psychotic killer with that voice.
@@venomfox4847 There is Blood:Fresh Supply. Caleb is pretty similar.
I fucking love Bates. Every time he says something remotely corny my friends and I playing would fucking lose it.
"That little shit" "HE SAID THE THING!!! HE SAID THE THING!!"
He's so over the top American Hollywood style badass, he's just so COOL. It's so out of place, especially considering he's possessing a teenage girl's body. The comedy here is just fucking gold;
Every time I do drawings of him between friends I always draw a 30~40 yr old man, too tall for Alyssa's clothes so his navel is always exposed, hairy all over with a 5 o clock shadow and constantly smoking a cigarette.
Also let's not ignore the childish joke about how we worship Master Bates.
I'm 4 years old
Will Cook What a fucking story.
So in the japanese version of the game Bates is voiced by Young Link and in the english version voiced by Mojo Jojo. Sweet.
Bates is so funny, i love him!! BATES!!
I wished there was an actual image of what Bates/Sho really looked like before he died.
That would've been good but they only showed a mere shadow of him with red eyes really but that is in the art/manga.
Kat M its said he was allessa twin but I don't know if it is true
He was barely born. That’s what he looked like, an infant only a few days old. I rather wish they had shown what could have been him. But otherwise, yeah, I’m pretty sure Bates suffocated at infancy when he and Alyssa (can’t check if my spelling is right while typing this) were buried alive in an effort to avoid the curse of the scissorman twins.
By the time they were dug up (not by people who actually wanted to save them, rather by people who just wanted to get back at Maxwell) Bates had suffocated and only Alyssa clung to life.
@@Norinia Bates lived on though through Alyssa, that's why he protects her, maybe it's twisted, but I always found that sweet. I just assume that Bates was a manly version of Alyssa, shirt and jeans or a Japanese suit and tie for clothes and no headband.
It has never been confirmed that Bates/Sho was a real person, in fact there is no mention of him being Alyssa’s twin in neither game nor Drama CD, he is always described as her other personality or alter-ego. In the drama CD Sho seems to care deeply for Alyssa, as if he is in love with her or something.
@@D-Ry I feel as if it would be something like this. I also envisioned something akin to Akira from Live-A-Live: spiky hair, long jacket, maybe in the same vein as Jotaro Kujo, where it’s his school uniform, but he leaves the jacket unbuttoned, and this general “don’t screw around with me” vibe to him. Perhaps even a scar or two, considering how violent he is?
"Back off, bitch." I can't believe I've been sleeping on this game
Fun fact! The guy who does Bates voice is the same from the Scream horror movies series. Scream came out in 1996 but Clock tower 2 came out in 1998, pretty interesting!
The idea of your horror game protagonist having a slasher killer alter-ego is so cool! A shame Ghost Head bungled the execution so hard. A much too ambitious idea for an inexperienced designer.
Personally I love the game
Yeah, it was a shame, although I think it was very hard for the game to do well, aside from the problems of the game itself, it had the problem that in english the voice acting was terribe, except for Jackson's. and in Japanese, Sho is not nearly as interesting as Bates.
What is your favourite scary movie, Alyssa?
"Someone's LEEEEGGGGGGG"
Mojo jojo is pissed.
I remember seeing these two people doing a co commentary walk through and they started calling him Master Bates
+398cecilio owo Who said it?
Plot Twist I forget who it is exactly but i remember it being something along the lines of lovelyLizz and daringDan or something like that
OUO PRECISION MAN! PRECISION!
Watcherman98 it wasn’t until I read it out loud that I got the joke... fuck
1st section gave me flashbacks to Scream 5... guess it helps that Roger L. Jackson voiced Bates as well..
I will always love this game. Despite its many flaws its just such a crazy fun game
I think its interesting how alot of Bates' lines are subtitled correctly. xD
6:55 under appreciated moment.
Yeah really good dialogue
Wonder if Nitro Rad found this video...
I have to imagine not, otherwise he would have found out about the existence of the machine gun, and not think the shotgun was the only gun to automatically hit the zombie's paracidic brain without aiming.
@@spyroid101 Yeah the dude didn't do a good job reviewing the game lol
Bates: *Literally getting choked*
Bates: *back off bitch*
He was a badass that I think is somewhat unappreciated. If this game ever got a remake, I don't think they could top the original. Also, I don't think I've heard all the quotes before but some are pretty funny.
I wish my was voice sounded like this
Same and im not a man
@@elenaaurora2939 now that's hot XD.
@@wpninja83 oh thanks~
Don't hang up on me!
funny thing the game was called ghost Head in Japanese and it had Ghostface.
Fun fact bates is played by the guy who played ghost face in the scream movies
The only good actor in the game
I've played and beaten this game many times over the past decade, and I've missed some of these great quotes! This game had a lot of misused potential, but every Bates line is so quotable and golden! Thanks for posting this video! I'm sure I'll listen to it more than once!
This game birthed the curse of "good idea, bad execution" I mean I didn't think it was terrible because I love Clock Tower, but I wish there was a remake of it.
@@D-Ry same dude! I want Clock Tower back so much, or at least some remasters available. As bad as the CT2 was, I still enjoy playing it
@@1325marky Super Famicom og game is getting a remaster coming out 2025. Theres an optional mode that intergrates exclusive scenes of the psx port.
@@eightcoins4401 I know!! It’s my most anticipated game coming up in the year!
In my ending, bates takes over and becomes ghost face with majimas mad dog aura. Nuff said
Omg I've never heard that unused voice clip before, what the hell was that supposed to be for?? lmao it sounded like Bates having a conversation with Daria (which would make Bates seem like Trent Lane lol)
I actually have a theory for that one!
In one of the Japanese guidebooks for this game, there's a detailed map of all clickable objects, and which character can interact with them. However, in the guide, it lists the window in the guest bedroom as a clickable object for both Bates and Alyssa, but at no point in the actual released game does it ever become available, meaning they decided to remove it.
The bit of text talking about what the window was suppose to do mentions that it was just a conversation click point that would be a reference to a scary movie.
Bates' line seems to be mimicking Hannibal Lecter from Red Dragon/Silence of the Lambs. So my theory is that that bit of audio would have gone to that click point, if it had made it to the final cut.
Thank you for blessing us mortals with this voice of the gods.
4:28 is the best meme material
Could you please make a compilation of Bates' conversations with other people? It's kind of odd to hear only one half of the conversation.
Anyone else realize he's ghostface from scream?
I actually liked this game, despite all its flaws...Bates was the main reason I replayed it so many times as a kid lol
S O M E O N E S L E G
You took the words right out of my mouth xD But yeah,that sexy voice of his and the way he acts makes a person want Bates no matter what,even if hes possessing a girl,I still want him!! :)
Two questions
1: Was the woman at the end Alyssa that said "Uhg Bates wipe your mouth"
And 2: did they say "We are woman..hear us roar" ?
Bates looks like Gangster from Burnout 2 Point Of Impact
Awesome video! I subbed you. I love Bates,he should have his own series!
I love Bates so much.
Alyssa is Doppio and Bates is Diavolo.
2:17 Me to myself when my work relief comes in
Alyssa its just doom guy daugther and bates is just her inner slayer.
Its like an infinitely goofier version of the Blood protag that went way too much into edgelord direction
Bates no joke reminds of Caleb from Blood and its glorious.
MY GODNESS BATES GIMME A CHILD *-----*
A few weeks ago, I watched some videos about Nobody, that weird character from Sesame Street. He reminded me of Bates immediately.
It seems the characters name is actually Limbo. He gets falsly labeled as nobody because he first starred in a film called nobody. Hoo boy, that thing has some history.
I didn't know that, thanks for yhe info.
I love the story of this game I just wish the game was better
Rewatching some old Naruto episodes, now Bates kinda sounds like a snarkier, less emo, slightly more deranged version of Garra idk
On naruto bates voice shows?
Real badass.
He is just Caleb from Blood
I love the Vulgarity
Bates was the reason I swore so much as a kid, I was quoting him daily.
Do you like scary movies, Sidney?
He’s literally me
I LOVE BATES!
Bates should be the "path of violence" option, not the "0h, he is needed for this puzzle for an ending?"
This and Galerians.
6:55
"That little crud bitch!"
Are those unused clips bloopers? Lol! XD
Apparently all the unused audio of the game is from Playstation Illustrated NEWS if this is to be believed alyssahale.tumblr.com/post/155285408823/an-unused-audio-file-from-playstation-illustrated.
Who is Bates? The little girl (hold knife n laughing) is human or ghost?
Bates is Alyssa's alter ego/other personality, there's also a version that he's her dead twin but apparently not confirmed info. The little girl is Alyssa's cousin and she's a child possessed by the curse, that's why she could be kicked and stabbed.
2:30 whats stopping you now
Awww sheit
1:54 i dont remember thai event:0
Basically you have to lock yourself into Bad Ending G by having Michael get stabbed instead of being in the armor.
That'll make Stephanie later stuff his body into the rafters of this room for a scare trigger for Alyssa, where you look at the table, and the corpse falls down from the rafters and summons Stephanie. After escaping, you can then later come back and examine the body that remains on the table~
Shitty game, but Bates is awesome in this.
Bates needed to be the "bad" end not the dead ends.
7:02-7:10
Can someone explain to me who bates is?
He's Alyssa's twin brother that died at birth but somehow he shares her body.
@@BlueSpeedsFan92 twin? But isnt alyssa is a 17 old year teenager? Bates voice sounds like a 40 years middle age man!
@@soloparaplaystation6624 Well, blame the English Dub, wrong choice or wrong way for the actor to act as a twin brother. But no matter, it is like of the old games where the funny voice acting, actually makes the experience better.
Bates > Chuck Norris
😂
Bates is the best, although the game is shit.
Alyssa Hale is better than Bates
still remember and love his manly brutal sexy voice since childhood :D
4:28