Orthodox vs Protestant: Let's Solve The Debate

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  • @Submission2Orthodoxy
    @Submission2Orthodoxy 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +56

    I left Protestantism once sola Scriptura and sola Fide were clearly incoherent, ahistorical, and unbiblical. Soon to be Orthodox God willing*

    • @HolyTradition
      @HolyTradition  15 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Glory to God! ☦️

    • @xnihilo64
      @xnihilo64 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I get this. I was an LCMS Lutheran for 27 years and, of course, held to the 5 Solas. I thought this would be the greatest barrier to becoming Orthodox, but after carefully looking at the claims it just doesn't hold up. In the end it was one of the easiest things to set aside.
      Icons were the same way. Want to ramp up your prayer life? Start a simple icon corner with incense, oil lamps and prayer books.

    • @Solideogloria00
      @Solideogloria00 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@xnihilo64 Hello there. I’m an LCMS Lutheran. Honest questions:
      What convinced you that Sola Scriptura was wrong?
      How about praying to the icons? Are those apostolic practices? I thought the early fathers write against venerating images.
      Thanks

    • @xnihilo64
      @xnihilo64 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Solideogloria00 Ooh, a lot to try and bang out on a YT comment page, but I'll give the basics.
      As far Sola Scriptura, keep in mind the early church did not have the complete Bible we have today until the early 5th century. Even then it was 72 books not 66. Martin Luther didn't want Revelation or James in the NT.
      Also, it was the church who decided what books would go in the canon. The Bible didn't drop from the sky, nor does it say of itself it is the only rule. Jesus said, "I will build My church" not "I will give you a Book."
      Icons: Iconography has existed from the earliest times of Christianity. Catacombs and house churches all had them. Just know that icons are not worshipped. They aid in worship and keep one focused on Christ or Saints who kept the faith. We all keep photos of loved ones who have passed away; often times we kiss the photos out of love and respect. No one would think you are worshipping the picture, rather you are honoring the person it represents.
      I would encourage you to checkout Patristix YT channel on icons and other subjects. They are short and give a concise explanation.
      Other YT channels for Orthodoxy I would recommend:
      Jay Dyer
      Kyle orthodox
      Harmony orthodox
      check 'em out and lemme know what you think! 😁
      blessings on your journey! ☦

    • @mythologicalmyth
      @mythologicalmyth 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@HolyTraditionDo you have moderators removing opposing viewpoints? (Or maybe some of my replies are swallowed up by YT).

  • @jodex611
    @jodex611 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    Having watched this for only 10 minutes and the huge difference of spirit between these people is already showing. The interviewer seems arrogant and filled with certain kind of PRIDE himself. The Orthodox priest speaks warmly with compassion and love about everybody.

    • @believer8793
      @believer8793 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I didn’t see that. Just confidence in his interview skills.

    • @jodex611
      @jodex611 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@believer8793 I saw an intention to attack certain people together, but they ended up having a totally different tone when speaking about them.

    • @Me-pt7ik
      @Me-pt7ik 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@believer8793 He in his forming of questions and quote mining is very partisonized and confrontational. Now he himself isn't confrontational but he his trying to debate father while father is just having a conversation. Father easily could have pulled out James "you are saved by works and not faith alone" but he didn't instead just trying to reach Brandon where Brandon is.

    • @believer8793
      @believer8793 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @ Myself a former protestant for 30 yrs had questions when I came to the Orthodox Church. I did not just simply believe but doubted and so I asked questions where I doubted. Jesus tells us, “ Come let us reason together.” This man simply has confidence in the scriptures and believes the word of God, so let God do his job. Truth will prevail. I am now orthodox today because the scriptures led me to orthodoxy. That’s why this young man is asking questions.

    • @JohnDoukasPhotography
      @JohnDoukasPhotography 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I’m feeling the same way. It feels like “bro interviews orthodox priest, fishing for sound bites”

  • @nicodemus9105
    @nicodemus9105 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +64

    That my friends is why I converted to orthodox from Protestantism, everything this father said was right on the dot and gave the fullness of the Christian faith, it’s not just a couple of verses creating this one mind set formula that saves you, it’s all of it in a whole.
    No one eats one slice of pizza and claims he ate the whole pizza, he ate a whole slice but not a whole pizza.

    • @JLAV1985
      @JLAV1985 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Yikes. These answers gave you that feeling? Please listen to Fr. Truebennach, Lynch, Mahfouz or anything from Roots of Orthodoxy. God bless this priest but he gave answers that kept him in good standing with all crowds.

    • @nicodemus9105
      @nicodemus9105 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ he answered perfectly. Everyone that’s orthodox knows about roots. What didn’t you like?

    • @SeraphimWebster
      @SeraphimWebster 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@JLAV1985roots of orthodoxy is ran by a Catholic. Don’t watch them.

    • @zealousideal
      @zealousideal 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Good for you (if it helps you). I left EO for the same reasons, for me personally I didn’t find the right gospel there. I suggest people go to where the truth and full gospel is being preached, not old dead religion and praying to Mary/Theotokos and saints and smells and bells.
      While I’d agree Those things are certainly very beautiful but honestly for me is a distraction and takes away from my worship.
      Regardless of which style or worship one prefers, all I say is that one does his homework and actually research it out and READ the church father’s yourself and not just through EO lens.

    • @SeraphimWebster
      @SeraphimWebster 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @@zealousideal If you actually really were baptized or chrismated Orthodox you’d realize the Gospel is lived out. It’s also sung every Divine Liturgy, and the homily given by the priest is always in regard to the Gospel reading of the day.
      The Divine Liturgy is 99% chanting/singing the Scriptures

  • @EricAlHarb
    @EricAlHarb 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    The Protestant is being very gently corrected.

  • @cassidyanderson3722
    @cassidyanderson3722 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    This young man seems well intentioned and sincere, but it’s obvious that associates right wing politics with Christianity and is conspiracy minded. In his struggle to serve two masters, he bends the faith towards the politics. Our faith is, frankly, incompatible with that way of thinking.

  • @Mercisinho
    @Mercisinho 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Gonna watch it later. First video of this TH-cam channel. My algorithm is neat. God bless you

  • @RLCFive
    @RLCFive วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This priest is a lot more patient than I would have been 😂
    May God bless this Father. And may God lead this young man into His Church.

  • @mariebo7491
    @mariebo7491 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    I know how my priest would answer the first question. 2. Male and female. Hard stop. Love my priest.

  • @elc248
    @elc248 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    i was curious to see the debate as per the title, but this guy starting out being edgy talking about genders made me just not want to keep watching.

    • @ItsOnPaper
      @ItsOnPaper 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It’s the conservative zoomer brain rot sadly

  • @AyatollahS.A.Khamenei
    @AyatollahS.A.Khamenei 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Bro really walked in with zoomer broccoli hair and basic questions and titled the video, “let’s solve the debate” 😹😹😹

    • @ItsOnPaper
      @ItsOnPaper 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Cracked me up 😭

    • @HolyTradition
      @HolyTradition  15 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Out of fairness, neither person in the video is related to this channel. I am looking to help others understand Eastern Orthodoxy and, by doing so, help facilitate a conversation between an Orthodox priest and a non-Orthodox person.

  • @livelearnevolve
    @livelearnevolve 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    Priest using biologically false pronouns for his family member is not loving or truthful, it's acquiesing to Worldly ideas that are directly antithetical to God's word.
    Poor kid is desperate for a role model and he's being played by his own family and church representatives
    Let's step it up Priest, we are here to carry the cross not cosplay
    "Speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, Christ" - Eph 4:15

    • @haydentrent101
      @haydentrent101 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      You seem full of wisdom, why don’t you go correct the priest in person after the liturgy during coffee hour ?

    • @MassachusettsTrainVideos1136
      @MassachusettsTrainVideos1136 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @livelearnevolve You run a eastern mysticism meditation channel you aren't Christian.

    • @TunicThule
      @TunicThule 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@haydentrent101where is he?

    • @haydentrent101
      @haydentrent101 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TunicThule he says it at the very beginning

    • @TunicThule
      @TunicThule 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@haydentrent101there is many parishes that have the exact name brother.

  • @mollyporium5086
    @mollyporium5086 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    One point about the question you asked about the titles of Father, Paul refers to himself as Father.
    1 Corinthians 4:15
    Paul explicitly refers to himself as a spiritual father in his relationship with the Corinthian church:
    "For though you have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel."
    1 Timothy 1:2
    "To Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord."
    Titus 1:4
    "To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour."
    Philemon 1:10
    "I beseech thee for my son Onesimus, whom I have begotten in my bonds."
    Also the verse you quoted also says not to call someone teacher, if you go to Bible Study what do you refer to your Bible teacher? etc etc

  • @ProtestantismLeftBehind
    @ProtestantismLeftBehind 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Just become Orthodox so you don’t waste the effort of trying to justify modern innovations and continue to appeal to Scripture that belong to the one holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.

    • @MatthewMetanoia
      @MatthewMetanoia 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There are many self proclaimed "one true catholic and apostolic church" even within Orthodox

    • @ProtestantismLeftBehind
      @ProtestantismLeftBehind 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@MatthewMetanoiaThe Arians and Nestorians also proclaimed many things. A profession is one thing, while the actual reality of being the one Church is another. Learning real Church History (not as Protestant camps teach it, Rome corrupt, Reformer hero’s come in to save the day) is necessary to understand who is who. I was a Protestant for 25 years and became Orthodox joining the Orthodox Church. I am part of a Greek Orthodox Church, but visit Russian, Romanian, churches and monasteries. They share in communion. They are all Orthodox.

    • @MatthewMetanoia
      @MatthewMetanoia 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      "Learning church history" as the Eastern Orthodox teach it to you. But what about the Oriental Orthodox? Or the Assyrian church of the East? Their history (and everyone not Eastern Orthodox) doesn't agree with the EO history. ​@@ProtestantismLeftBehind

    • @ProtestantismLeftBehind
      @ProtestantismLeftBehind 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@MatthewMetanoiaAgreed. The modern day Arian heretics (Jehovah Witnesses) likewise would disagree. The Orientals are miaphysites, this is why they got the boot long ago. The Ancient Church of the East are Nestorians. Both maintain heretical ideas that are departures from the Apostolic Tradition. Reading the Church Fathers and what happened during the Ecumenical Councils and understanding the Creed of Nicene-Constantinople is important to understand this. The faith had to be preserved by the Church. Yet, some departed taking with them their heresy. They can claim to be Orthodox or part of the Church, but historically and theologically, they are not.

    • @mollyporium5086
      @mollyporium5086 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@MatthewMetanoia No you learn church history first from all angles and then you discern between churches. You believe the Assyrian church is the true Church? So you believe that Christ is split between a divine person and a human person? Or do you believe the OO are correct so you hold to MiaPhysitism, that Christ has one nature that's fully human fully divine? Protestants love to talk abt Catholic innovations but you guys hold to the Fillioque a completely bogus claim and also Scholasticism/Absolute Divine Simplicity that was fully fledged out by Aquinas. The only Churches that could even be in the debate are EO, OO, RCC and possibly the Anglicans. Just because multiple groups disagree doesn't mean that there isn't a correct answer. That's like saying "multiple groups claim that they know how to be saved Sola Fide, Pelagianism, EO salvation theory so since people disagree there's no way to know"

  • @TruePathLiving
    @TruePathLiving 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I have been vegan since age 19. I am also orthodox Christian. Veganism and Christianity have common values like compassion and I don't think Jesus would be happy about what He sees in the slaughterhouses, but even as a vegan I fast. My priest guides me in my fasting and the Orthodox fast has reinforced my veganism as well. Deny ourselves, crucify ourselves and in the denying of self we also help animals who are enslaved for human gluttony.

    • @dumbidols
      @dumbidols 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Without the label, Im sure most ascetics were vegan. Just sayin. Im not an advocate for veganism or anything. But nothing wrong with that choice especially as a spiritual discipline.

  • @danmurphy9690
    @danmurphy9690 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Great video man!! ❤️✝️ bless your soul

  • @JLAV1985
    @JLAV1985 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    I have NEVER seen an orthodox priest be so liberal and Luke warm on clear topics.

    • @TunicThule
      @TunicThule 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      He needs to be corrected by his elders

    • @MichaelBluford
      @MichaelBluford 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      He's Greek. It's common for that jurisdiction.

    • @mar1noo
      @mar1noo 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yes this is a big problem

    • @mollyporium5086
      @mollyporium5086 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I've only gotten a little into it the only part that I've gotten to that's really wrong is using the false pronouns. I get what he's saying on the voting thing though both parties are evil.

    • @zealousideal
      @zealousideal 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I have! Most them are which is another reason I left it. Most priests I know are very liberal, or woke or lukewarm,

  • @mirelaalina4050
    @mirelaalina4050 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Thank you Father. ☦️❤️

  • @CornerstoneChristianity
    @CornerstoneChristianity 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hi guys, I have very recently started this channel cornerstonechristianity which will investigate Christian truths. The main body of content will be video lectures, Testimony videos, and Interviews. I have only upoloaded some low-production video lectures so far, but am working on organising other content asap. In fact, I just went to Oxford to interview Cardinal Timothy Radcliffe. The interview will probably (unless I upload another interview first) be my first real piece of content on this channel. Feel free to check it out (uploaded in the next 2 weeks). God Bless

    • @HolyTradition
      @HolyTradition  10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Are you currently Roman Catholic?

    • @CornerstoneChristianity
      @CornerstoneChristianity 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@HolyTradition No I am not Catholic or Orthodox but do have faith in Christ and am discerning.

    • @CornerstoneChristianity
      @CornerstoneChristianity 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@HolyTradition I have great respect for both traditions and all of those who profess belief in Christ.

  • @benmanny9142
    @benmanny9142 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Beautifully said Fr. Nicholas about Holy Communion and everything In General. My mind is swirling now though...

  • @MatthewMetanoia
    @MatthewMetanoia 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    As a default settings Protestant, I can appreciate the quality and effort put into this.

    • @mollyporium5086
      @mollyporium5086 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why is Protestantism the default?

    • @HolyTradition
      @HolyTradition  15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you. Please share this video with others in your family and friend circles.

    • @zdenekcanada5408
      @zdenekcanada5408 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You protest to what ?

  • @Cybercrapper28
    @Cybercrapper28 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Who is this kid and why is he an authority on anything?

  • @TunicThule
    @TunicThule 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    What the hell is wrong with this priest I mean I am absolutely no one to judge but the way he answered the first question just reeked of modernity. He seems like he’s on muddy waters smh I don’t like it

    • @cozzwozzle
      @cozzwozzle 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      “I am absolutely no one to judge” - proceeds to judge anyway.

    • @zealousideal
      @zealousideal 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This is exactly what I keep telling everyone.. I’m glad you noticed it.
      It’s not just that one priest, many priests if not most of them, are like that.. and some of the jurisdictions and seminaries are also infected with it now. I disagree with a lot about orthodoxy, which is why I left it after many years of being in it.

    • @bradleyperry1735
      @bradleyperry1735 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@zealousidealWhat about the Orthodox Church did you disagree with? And were actually received into the Church?

    • @borremoonkey
      @borremoonkey 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We, including the laity, are called to righteously judge. Otherwise how can you discern if one is preaching heretical garbage? I think people assume judging these interactions and discerning whether what someone is saying is confessing falsehood and conflate it with judging the state of one’s soul and their salvation.
      One factor with this priest is he’s part of world orthodox Greek synod. Look at Archbishop Elpidophoros, he’s likes to toe the line and speaks about things like “all religions are on a path up the mountain to God but you can’t see the other paths” nonsense. He basically preached perennialism/universalism. Also he sent one of his bishops to go pray and bless a Hindu temple. He got caught and said he wouldn’t do it again but that he was “forced” but a few weeks later was praying with Protestants and Roman Catholics.
      Honestly, this is a big problem of world orthodoxy, as it’s steeped in modernity and the heresy of Ecvmenism.
      ROCOR-MP can claim, and my former priest was very traditional, to reject modernity and preaches traditional values but at the end of the day, they’ve chosen to capitulate to the Sergianist and ecvmenist MP/ROC. They’re members of the WCC, and by virtue of remaining in communion, they’ve fallen to their own anathema against ecvmenism of 1983 at the local council headed by St Philaret the New Confessor.
      Archbishop Averky of blessed memory spoke about this core issue which you find in Orthodox Word magazine Vol. 5 No. 130, back in the 70s and how ecvmenism will grow worse and people will for the sake of “unity and love” want to join not only with Roman Catholics and Protestants but to all other faiths as well and many will adopt Papist ecclesiology and blind obedience to heretical bishops.

    • @norwardradtke1361
      @norwardradtke1361 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@zealousidealinteresting, where did you go?

  • @ItsOnPaper
    @ItsOnPaper 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Something about young Protestants just crack me up 🤣

    • @jodex611
      @jodex611 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They are so filled with pride.

    • @orimoreau3138
      @orimoreau3138 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The irony lol

  • @danenakam
    @danenakam 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Would be awesome if you could add chapters to this

  • @xabialonso5785
    @xabialonso5785 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Weird questions with weird politically correct answers at least in the beginning (had to stop watching). Interviewer did the PC priest no favors with his super specific hypothetical woke related questions.

  • @AS9_27
    @AS9_27 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    so many ppl on here are pressed bc they don’t know how he is. fr nick goes by the book and he’s also saying his opinion but also what he has been told. (by the book) you also can’t act that all priest are like 100% all right like if you say one thing wrong you’re wrong in general. so before you go off understand what is going on

    • @AS9_27
      @AS9_27 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      orthodoxy is also all about the truth, so sorry if it hurts to know the truth

  • @millier.206
    @millier.206 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Interview my Serbian priest 😂 he is all about protecting children and making it known what’s right and wrong

    • @EricAlHarb
      @EricAlHarb 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why is this priest any different?

    • @millier.206
      @millier.206 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ he seems to harbor some wordly beliefs that aren’t biblical

    • @EricAlHarb
      @EricAlHarb 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@millier.206 like what? Im Orthodox and he is saying extremely Orthodox things.

    • @1991jj
      @1991jj 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@millier.206 Like?

  • @parabola4789
    @parabola4789 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    A priest is a sinner just like the rest of us. Although should be respected they shouldn’t be able to say who can and can’t take communion. Let God be the judge. A lot of priest will not be saved they say. What’s his view on this?

    • @HolyTradition
      @HolyTradition  8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      To preface, this video and channel is managed by me, Anthony, not in this video. In the Orthodox view, all of us are sinners besides Jesus and Mary (because she chose not to sin but was susceptible to it). Where Father Nick, responds to Brandon's question about a politician that is publicly pushing for/advocating for a non-Orthodox Christian way of life shows issue if this politician does not think what they are saying is an issue. This is to allow that person to change their phronema and understanding.
      To understand this completely you actually have to get to the epistle of John when he’s talking about the gnostics…You have to understand what complete unity is when Jesus talks about “let them be as one, even as you and I are one“… Meaning he and the father.
      Also, the context of what the church was doing directly after the Bible was written is also important.
      How did those believers minister holy communion? We have it in the writings of Saint Ignatius of Antioch, specifically telling not to offer communion to the people who disbelief that Jesus was a human.
      This goes back to the earliest point of the second century…We (Eastern Orthodox) are not making this stuff up. So people can have whatever opinions they want, but they’re doing that from an uninformed place.
      The Bible is not the only metric on how to live the Christian life. It never has been, and it never will be. And all those protestants that think ONLY the Bible matters…advise them to stop reading Max Lucado, and all those other Christian writers.

    • @parabola4789
      @parabola4789 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@HolyTraditionagain; who are you to say who get saved and who doesn’t. I’m eastern Greek Orthodox. In the end if you choose God you will go with him. I’m tired of hearing the Eastern Orthodox take shots at Protestants. Enough is enough. The Bible says to keep our mouths and eyes shut. Yet at the end of your reply, you took a nasty shot at Protestants. Very sad

    • @HolyTradition
      @HolyTradition  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Truth is truth, even if it hurts. Think about it this way too, you likely know of Holy Confession. This can be followed up with penance where your spiritual father advises you to abstain from Holy Communion. Not out of punishment but with love and change of phronema. This break from Holy Communion is for improvement and does not hurt salvation, it only elevates it with the right perspective of penance.

    • @parabola4789
      @parabola4789 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ no you are very judgmental and your tone is not that of a true Eastern Orthodox faithful. A true EO faithful would not judge another faith. They would say “I’m the biggest sinner.” I once thought like you then repented. Good luck to you I think your heart is in the right place but your mouth is that of a fool

  • @deacon6221
    @deacon6221 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @zealousideal what Church did you join after leaving?

  • @saintpolycarp8197
    @saintpolycarp8197 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Priest gives the exact understanding of all of the ancient Apostolic Churches, Catholic and Orthodox.

    • @johnnyd2383
      @johnnyd2383 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Except that Latins are not Church... they are Latin heretics who fell off of the Church back in 11th century.

    • @Me-pt7ik
      @Me-pt7ik 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He gives simplified answers geared towards the kid

    • @user-yk3vf3ub2v
      @user-yk3vf3ub2v 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Orthodox is Catholic, I assume you’re meaning Roman Catholic when you say just “Catholic”

    • @saintpolycarp8197
      @saintpolycarp8197 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@user-yk3vf3ub2v Did you read it? I said. all of the ancient Apostolic Churches, Catholic and Orthodox.

  • @adrudds
    @adrudds 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Crazy to see so many priests in the comments section correcting Father Nick. I mean what layman would exalt themselves to such a level to aim correct an ordained priest????

    • @zealousideal
      @zealousideal 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      “ correcting an ordained priest” lol😂as if he’s God!?! Dude get a grip!
      These guys are not God there’s many priests and bishops all throughout history that were even known heretics, so you’re living in delusion! there’s a lot of priests that are incorrect or are liberal or whatever the case that are not priests, but Bishop’s, metropolitans, and patriarchs. I hope you know that. Wow it Is beyond mind blowing the level of gullibility and naivety here. Geez.

    • @adrudds
      @adrudds 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ wdym gullibility? I know there have been heretical priests but this priest hasn’t committed any heresies and was put in his position by God. Regardless, it’s for the church to decide whether what a priest says or does is incorrect not laity, for a bunch of people to sit on their computers ant take issue with how a priest answers questions, is the definition of self righteousness. Further, you know Church hierarchy is biblical right?

    • @0utc4st1985
      @0utc4st1985 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We aren't Catholics, we don't believe in infallible clergy. The Church's teachings on Transgenderism is very, very clear cut.

    • @VirginMostPowerfull
      @VirginMostPowerfull 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@adruddsProtestant converts perhaps, it will take time. I'm Catholic and I've seen this issue among some converts, former Protestant myself.

  • @Dragoncurve
    @Dragoncurve 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    John 3:16 - For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten son. That whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life.
    SHALL NOT PERISH
    This is what changed the whole conversation for me.
    Also I would often get Protestant answers that Jesus talked down to His mother. They cite passages in the gospels like “look at how he treated his mother” as if Jesus said anything terrible to her….
    They specifically quote things like “Here are my mother and brothers” or “Nay, rather blessed is the one who …” in responses. But these are taken WAY out of context by Protestants.
    But if he actually did something like that…if Jesus ACTUALLY disparaged his mom…it means Jesus would be breaking the commandment about honoring his father and mother…right?
    But Jesus is clearly without sin. So the Protestant answers to these questions don’t work at all.

  • @barrick4807
    @barrick4807 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Man I wish I could go to something like this I have so many questions and on top of his

  • @AlDumbledore-t2m
    @AlDumbledore-t2m 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Anybody know who this David guy the priest is talking is?

  • @Greg_6565
    @Greg_6565 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The story of Philip and the Ethiopian eunich FOLDED my sola scriptura

  • @mythologicalmyth
    @mythologicalmyth 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You’re making the “bad priest, bad pope” argument.
    What happens when the hierarchs disagree?
    What happens when EO hiearach
    Is exiled to Hungary?
    MP, GP, Antioch, Constantinople
    Are they not all in some schism?

    • @0utc4st1985
      @0utc4st1985 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If you look back at Church history, from time to time there have been schisms within the Church between certain jurisdictions. They still remained within the Church, what made the Great Schism different was there were fundamental theological differences that Rome wasn't willing to let go of despite councils saying they should, which eventually lead to their ejection from the Church by all the other jurisdictions. Right now there is no theological dispute between Moscow and Constantinople, it's entirely based on worldly political influences which will eventually pass. As it stands they are both still in the Church.

    • @believer8793
      @believer8793 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Paul and Barnabus had a schism

    • @mythologicalmyth
      @mythologicalmyth 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@0utc4st1985 🥱 It’s all roses when you can schism and say Eastern Orthodoxy is universal Catholic and united. 😆 😜

    • @mythologicalmyth
      @mythologicalmyth 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@believer8793 yes they did. St Peter was told 3 times……St Peter was given the Keys……St Peter sits on the cathedra of Moses……St Peter is Cepha.
      It’s just “honorific” and embellished flattery by the Holy Saints of the Church. 🤦‍♂️

    • @cicerogsuphoesdown7723
      @cicerogsuphoesdown7723 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mythologicalmyth lmao ‘but but but….tHe kEyS’. Watch the nick fuentes Jay dyer debate. You’ll get cooked.

  • @johna3322
    @johna3322 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Good interview.
    The priest is the most liberal orthodox priest i have ever heard. Almost concerning actually.
    You probably don't even notice it. It could also be nervousness but your constant head nodding throughout the interview is quite distracting. I don't mean to take away your from your good work, just a note for future videos.

    • @lyats9905
      @lyats9905 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I go to this priests parish. I am conservative and I can say our priest is NOT “ liberal” in the Left wing sense. I would describe him as apolitical (as Christ was apolitical). We have absolutely no idea if he’s Republican or Democrat. I DO know that he ALWAYS points us to Christ.

    • @johna3322
      @johna3322 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @lyats9905 i wouldn't doubt that. Priests are people outside of the church too and they have feelings and opinions just like anyone else.

    • @lyats9905
      @lyats9905 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@johna3322 that’s very true and I’m sure he does have personal political, opinions. He’s human after all. But the mistake some religious leaders make is bringing politics into the church which it has no place. After all, Christ said my kingdom is no part of this world. I appreciate the fact that our priest doesn’t do this. What I have heard him say is that no matter what mankind does, let us not fear because in the end God‘s Will will take place as it says in the Lord‘s prayer no matter what we puny humans try to accomplish. In the end, Christ has got this. In my experience our priest is a great shepherd that cares for his sheep and does his best to reflect Christs love to his parish.

  • @believer8793
    @believer8793 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The western rite Orhtodoxy does recognize Eucharistic adoration.

    • @VirginMostPowerfull
      @VirginMostPowerfull 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I haven't watched the whole video yet, could you clarify please? I thought all Orthodox accepted Eucharistic adoration. I'm Catholic btw.

    • @believer8793
      @believer8793 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ they do

    • @user-lw7gf9iy6r
      @user-lw7gf9iy6r 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Orthodox do not in any way accept this Latin idea of the adoration of the Eucharist. The whole idea of the “western rite” within Contemporary Orthodoxy is problematic in and of itself.

    • @believer8793
      @believer8793 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ what are you the bishop? The bishop accepts it therefore it is accepted.

    • @believer8793
      @believer8793 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ the Bishop just visited during advent

  • @danenakam
    @danenakam 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Subbed

  • @frogleg10
    @frogleg10 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Neither political party can claim to be the party of God. Both have severe faults and abortion is just one issue. And to characterize one party as pro-abortion is a lie. The interviewer expects harsh black and white answers.

  • @TrejinHartsfield
    @TrejinHartsfield 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    How is this a Protestant vs orthodox debate?

    • @HolyTradition
      @HolyTradition  15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      The word "debate" is used more loosely here to highlight the differences. For some hardcore debates, I would recommend you to watch Jay Dyer.

  • @mythologicalmyth
    @mythologicalmyth 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Solve Orthodox v Catholic.
    Truglia admitted papal argument is dangerous to EO theology and had he not been predisposed to EO he might be Catholic.
    Many agree with him. As an EO, I also agree with him.

    • @johnnyd2383
      @johnnyd2383 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You are spamming various Orthodox channels with this same BS of yours.

    • @mythologicalmyth
      @mythologicalmyth 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ your spamming me with this BS of yours! Thanks for tracking me!? 🤦‍♂️
      For effing real! You take the cake of projecting trolls!
      You entertained me for a second!
      No argument or rebuttal. You actually are a social media tracker. 😂😂😂

    • @mythologicalmyth
      @mythologicalmyth 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ MAKE AN ARGUMENT, a rebuttal to the claims I make.
      It’s BS???
      That’s your theology?
      Luh hoo ha ha ser.

    • @mythologicalmyth
      @mythologicalmyth 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ Johnny D…the failed EO Tuber.

    • @mythologicalmyth
      @mythologicalmyth 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@johnnyd2383No I’m not spamming. I’m elucidating and educating. You’re trolling legitimate dialogue. Go figure you would project this on me. 😢

  • @tinakarras7571
    @tinakarras7571 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fasting is not to eat anything.

    • @believer8793
      @believer8793 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not necessarily

    • @johnnyd2383
      @johnnyd2383 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Read Book of Daniel...

  • @Greasy__Bear
    @Greasy__Bear 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I go to holy assumption in canton oh. I think I may have visited a year ago.

    • @HolyTradition
      @HolyTradition  15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's great to hear. You are welcome anytime at Holy Trinity Greek Orthodox Church in Canton, Ohio (where we filmed this video).

  • @proxile_
    @proxile_ 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    the shoes of the protestant says it all

    • @jgeph2.4
      @jgeph2.4 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Is that a fruit of the Spirit ?

    • @proxile_
      @proxile_ 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jgeph2.4 i highly doubt vanity is a fruit of the Spirit

    • @jgeph2.4
      @jgeph2.4 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@proxile_ I was speaking of your comment , not the shoes .

    • @proxile_
      @proxile_ 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jgeph2.4 your comment is then unrelated, because my comment wasn't a judgement it was an observation on how protestants view vanity, I don't think anyone needs a thousand dollar gucci/versace shoes as Christians, I was thinking this is obvious

    • @believer8793
      @believer8793 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      John 7:24 24 Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.”

  • @mythologicalmyth
    @mythologicalmyth 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    IT IS SOLVED
    If Emenim were Orthobro:
    1st See, 2nd See …..illegitmaSee.
    St Peter was given the authoritative keees.
    All the patristuks must disagree with mee.
    Sitting on the chair of Moses duh liberat lee.
    Everyone’s a pope so let’s just be Protestantesquee.

  • @ishiftfocus1769
    @ishiftfocus1769 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    There is no hope in the pope. You need to understand that you are the sinner for whom Christ died.
    No penitent works, turning-from-your sins work, self sacrificial works, religious works, or confessional works can forgive a single sin in your life.
    Only by faith, and by faith only, in the finished work of Calvary’s cross can we receive forgiveness and imputed righteousness by God’s grace.

    • @HolyTradition
      @HolyTradition  14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      To add clarity, there is no Papal Supremacy in Orthodoxy. Faith without works is dead, otherwise it's just lip-service. The good works come naturally with faith.

    • @JessieJoseph-y1w
      @JessieJoseph-y1w 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This isn't catholic

  • @RFazor
    @RFazor 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I just subscribed to

    • @HolyTradition
      @HolyTradition  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Excellent, thank you.

  • @Motomack1042
    @Motomack1042 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    While I can appreciate the discussion, you guys just don't understand the Papacy and how it developed. Ignatius of Antioch affirmed that the church Rome had the authority to teach others. Irenaeus of Lyon states The Roman church because of its superior origin, all the churches must agree, that is all the faithful of the world. Yes, Christ is the head of the Church, he left us with a Prime Minister to exercise His authority on earth (Isiah 22).
    If the Orthodox would have obeyed the Popes instead of the Emperors a lot of issues and heresies would have been avoided.

    • @inrmds
      @inrmds 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Rome caused the schism.
      St. Augustine:
      “He had not the primacy over the disciples (in discipulos) but among the
      disciples (in discipulis). His primacy among the disciples was the same as
      that of Stephen among the deacons."
      St. Ambrose:

      “As soon as Peter heard these words, “Whom say ye that I am?”
      remembering his place he exercised this primacy, a primacy of confession,
      not of honour; a primacy of faith, not of rank."

    • @mollyporium5086
      @mollyporium5086 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Friend, the Pope had special primacy because Sts Peter and Paul both started that church and died there. The Pope didn't have supremacy, nor did the power come from some Petrine Keys doctrine.

    • @mollyporium5086
      @mollyporium5086 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Epistle 59 of St. Cyprian (written around 256 AD)
      "The Church is one, and it is in the Church that the bishops are equal, for all are successors of the apostles. No one bishop has more power or authority than another, and the primacy which Rome claims is merely a custom that has grown over time."
      St. Ambrose’s letter to the Emperor Theodosius (written in 390 AD)
      “The Church is not the domain of one man, but the property of the bishops who are equal in dignity and have their power from the same Christ. No bishop can be superior to another; no bishop can be in authority over the whole Church, for there is one Church and one authority, that which is held by all bishops in communion with one another.”
      Canon 28 of the Council of Chalcedon
      "Following in all things the decrees of the holy Fathers, we recognize the primacy of the most holy see of Rome, because of its having been placed by the divine word as the first of the Churches, and the authority of the apostolic chair. And the most holy see of Constantinople, the new Rome, is to have equal privileges with the ancient imperial city, and the bishops of Constantinople are to be honored with the same privileges as those of Rome, because Constantinople is the new Rome."
      Apostolic Canon 34 4th century
      "Let a bishop not dare to do anything without the consent of the synod of bishops, for in this way the unity of the Church will be maintained."
      Apostolic Canon 35
      "Let no bishop dare to depose a bishop from his office without the consent of the synod of bishops, for it is a matter concerning the whole Church."
      Apostolic Canon 36
      "Let every bishop know that he has no authority over the entire Church, but only over his own flock. Let him govern in his own diocese, and not extend his power beyond his boundaries."
      Council of Nicaea Canon 6
      The ancient customs of Egypt, Libya and Pentapolis shall be maintained, according to which the bishop of Alexandria has authority over all these places since a similar custom exists with reference to the bishop of Rome. Similarly in Antioch and the other provinces the prerogatives of the churches are to be preserved. In general the following principle is evident: if anyone is made bishop without the consent of the metropolitan, this great synod determines that such a one shall not be a bishop. If however two or three by reason of personal rivalry dissent from the common vote of all, provided it is reasonable and in accordance with the church’s canon, the vote of the majority shall prevail.

    • @mollyporium5086
      @mollyporium5086 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Also thats a pretty silly comment considering the western church was the toy of many Holy Roman Emperors for a longg long time.

    • @Motomack1042
      @Motomack1042 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @mollyporium5086 No, that is not true. Rome remained independent and placed itself above earthly rulers. Just look at the investiture controversy and see how Henry II repented. No western Emperor every promoted heresy, unfortunately the east can't say that. Arianism was the biggie, and it was the Pope and St Athanasius who saved Christianity. Eastern Emperors imprisoned Popes, Patriarchs who disagreed with them. The east had a long long time problem of sucking up to the Emperors. Their are some today who think the Emperor must return, that is nuts!

  • @Yaas_ok123
    @Yaas_ok123 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    People read Gavin Ortlund's What it means to be protestant. Book of the year -24. Worth it.

    • @dogmalife2540
      @dogmalife2540 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ortlund is the biggest pro cult protestant pharasee on the internet currently. People, just go to Orthodox church. No rainblow flags, rock concerts, gay and female priests or child molesters to worry about. 2000 years old and still counting. Yaas no offense, maybe you need to convert and/or read the history of the church starting from year 0 to now.

    • @zealousideal
      @zealousideal 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I own it. Very good! He also responds to EO claims. The RC have similar books debunking their claims too.

    • @Yaas_ok123
      @Yaas_ok123 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @zealousideal Good ! Blessings from Turku Finland !

    • @johnnyd2383
      @johnnyd2383 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He makes nice living out of the fools buying into his BS.

    • @deacon6221
      @deacon6221 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ortlund supports gay marriage and LGBT/Women priests.

  • @michaelpaulkeklak5029
    @michaelpaulkeklak5029 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Interviewer = poser.

  • @danielbrawner3677
    @danielbrawner3677 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Came up on my youtube feed. In Just starting the video.

    • @HolyTradition
      @HolyTradition  15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Awesome, thank you for watching and I hope you learned something new.

  • @barrick4807
    @barrick4807 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What about the corruption in church’s with the gangs like Serbia?

  • @soldiermedic81
    @soldiermedic81 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Both follow the Vatican.

    • @OrthobroJames
      @OrthobroJames 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      lol what?

    • @ПроститееслиобиделЯсваминесогл
      @ПроститееслиобиделЯсваминесогл 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Orthodox never follow vatican

    • @soldiermedic81
      @soldiermedic81 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ПроститееслиобиделЯсваминесогл what day is the Sabbath?

    • @johnnyd2383
      @johnnyd2383 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Nuh... Orthodox tossed out Vatican off of the Church back in 11th century.

    • @OrthobroJames
      @OrthobroJames 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@soldiermedic81 So you believe a 19th century protestant cult SDA over God's established church?