Super excited to have my game selected (Game 1)! I will say in defense of Harstem/UpaTree's guesses that while I am legitimately Gold 1 so far this season, my level has varied a lot over my 10+ years of playing, from Silver to Diamond and back again many times, and has most often been somewhere in Plat, incl. Plat 1 at times. But fundamentally I think my mechanics/macro/compositions have generally been higher level than my rank, but my problem has always been that I play pretty casually and am absolutely terrible at defending cheese and reacting to unanticipated situations (as Harstem noticed). So my level ends up varying a lot based on who I happen to hit and what they play. I will see if I can make it back to Diamond this year to justify Harstem's faith in me though!
Though I have no way of proving it, I ended up with a total of 1 point. Something about being a 3500 mmr NA zerg gave me the perfect insight for these 4 games!
I am a 3500 mmr Random, and I scored 3. High level pros cannot tell a Masters 3 apart from a Gold 3. Look at game 1, where they guessed at our mmr levels. Depo instead of eng bay block (not a big deal), but not cancelling it in time is very low level. Very delayed core. 0 reaper micro allowing it to die to probes. Terrible probe split and army control against the mines. Not only did Terran have 3 seige tanks isolated from the rest of his army at a weird, angle, but the toss then attacked the unseiged units instead of the high DPS seige tanks. 24 minutes in toss is only on 5 bases despite floating an incredilby high amount of money. ETC ETC.
@@bthekuta "High level pros cannot tell a Masters 3 apart from a Gold 3" Non-players suffer from the same thing. I went with Gold 3 in the ZvZ, that was actually Masters 3
Im a plat zerg on NA and it makes these so easy. It's literally just 'how much better are these players than me?' or 'how much worse are these players than me?' Factor in that EU players seem way better than their NA counter parts within the same rank, so if I see something that looks like diamond 1 on NA but the replay is from EU then I put down diamond 3. I play sooo much less starcraft than these guys but somehow I can guess ranks really well because of it.
I love that idea too. Maybe 1 game per episode and if Kevin is worried about the audience tuning out, just show us both while the contestant only sees the minimap.
That last one had a dead give away, they knew what spellcasters were. That immediately makes them better than Gold. Some of those Force Fields were good. There's micro. Even a Cloak to avoid damage from the stalker blink. Harstem was just on tilt.
Game 3 is idk, when guy saved the queen at low hp, with guy getting back after killing a spine etc, I thought that it's no way lower than masters, lol.
Playing along: G1 - sweet M2 - wow, really? That's just 1 above my rank and they were way better D3 - ZvZ is so though, I have no idea. Blind shot. WHAT, OK I guess D1 - oyyy, bad day
4:45 95% of what upatree tells is a game i just recently had. the rank, the muta harass (although i did lose more than 1 mineral line to it xD), the mismicro losing me my army... it was basically the same game, except i realised the whole game that i'm just slightly worse than the other guy, because if i had microed slightly better, i would've had a chance... because even though he ran through multiple mineral lines, i still had the better eco xD
I got 7 total this time, I enjoy playing at home with you guys. I felt game 3 with the zergs, they moved way too fast in and out of nydus, and the red zerg insta canceled the lair when the nydus popped. Too fast for low leagues.
just minimap would be hilarious. Maybe do one of those in a episode and the rest with game and minimap without production tab and money etc. in season 6
17:32 the NA games are different because they're casual players... I think Americans don't play SC2 as seriously as the EU and especially the Koreans. So they can play for years, and have a decent strategy, but struggle with implementing them because they have no muscle memory because they play for 2hrs/month.
Why does Harstem assume that when someone cheeses (hatchery cheese) that he does it in every game? He himself has an account that cannon rushes sometimes but not always. The skill level is where the decision making, micro and macro is. Not necessarily what type of build order you see. For all we know that could be the one game a good guy decides to troll.
Man I was on 3 points until round 3 😂 I went gold 3, diamond 1, and then SILVER 1 for the third game. Im surprised they didnt mention the lazy mouse panning during game play. Theres no way a masters player does that.
lol. I love how out of touch Harstem is with play below the highest level. We see 30 slow banelings with no support in one clump waddling towards a sieged Terran that isn't even in a spot that's threatening the zerg, and the reaction is: 'Look at that terran preperation, might be as high as GM'
1. Plat1 What?.. Gold O_o 2. Diamond2 Build orders are nice and tight, but the micro wasn't there as if they were GMs. 3. Master2 Micro is just slightly better, transfuses are timed, the way the controlled their armies was a bit better than the previous one. 4. Plat2 I'd play similar to this, so... I just recognized my level xD
G2 D2 D2 G2, total of 7, one of my better scores, possibly my best(dont keep track), last one is the only one i didnt do well on. Dont know what those losers problem is. (There is no sampling bias here, I dont comment my scores regularly because I dont like showing of, not because they are unimpressive or bad or anything, this single example clearly shows I am smarter then them and would do very well on this show, I wouldnt perform even worse when im on the spot, no couldnt be me)
HAHAHAHA. No fucking way. I said Gold 1 for the first game and I saw their answers and I was like, "Am I way off?" Ahahaha. 0, 2, 3, and me and Harstem picked the same rank for the last guy. So 9, total. A few episodes back I had a score of like 1 or 2. Cause I was getting them all on the money. 0 or 1 points. I don't remember which episode, I did comment on it though.
TH-cam has been horrible at recommending these videos, or you have been horrible naming them so I missed them. I saw the first I think, and now I found the 6th.
Harstem saying last one is def not d3 was so funny since I had a game exactly like that just tvz. In d3 scouting is not that great so mass banshees can get you so suprised you cant do anything about it.
Harstem has stopped looking at resource float entirely this season. If you just based guesses off of resources floated you could have nailed the first two games, we'll see about rest.
Ive tried watching upatrees videos before and he jusy comes across as such a douche. His viewership is still low despite kevim doing multiple videos with him, im guessing because most people find him insufferable. i dont know why harstem colabs with him, i cant stand him.
Harstem factually claiming a 4-0 win in a finals against Clem was not in my bingo card for 2024
If Serral was world champion, Harstem wouldn't be able to do it...
I mean, Clem was like 5.5 in 2019
Super excited to have my game selected (Game 1)!
I will say in defense of Harstem/UpaTree's guesses that while I am legitimately Gold 1 so far this season, my level has varied a lot over my 10+ years of playing, from Silver to Diamond and back again many times, and has most often been somewhere in Plat, incl. Plat 1 at times. But fundamentally I think my mechanics/macro/compositions have generally been higher level than my rank, but my problem has always been that I play pretty casually and am absolutely terrible at defending cheese and reacting to unanticipated situations (as Harstem noticed). So my level ends up varying a lot based on who I happen to hit and what they play. I will see if I can make it back to Diamond this year to justify Harstem's faith in me though!
Though I have no way of proving it, I ended up with a total of 1 point. Something about being a 3500 mmr NA zerg gave me the perfect insight for these 4 games!
I am a 3500 mmr Random, and I scored 3. High level pros cannot tell a Masters 3 apart from a Gold 3. Look at game 1, where they guessed at our mmr levels. Depo instead of eng bay block (not a big deal), but not cancelling it in time is very low level. Very delayed core. 0 reaper micro allowing it to die to probes. Terrible probe split and army control against the mines. Not only did Terran have 3 seige tanks isolated from the rest of his army at a weird, angle, but the toss then attacked the unseiged units instead of the high DPS seige tanks. 24 minutes in toss is only on 5 bases despite floating an incredilby high amount of money. ETC ETC.
@@bthekuta "High level pros cannot tell a Masters 3 apart from a Gold 3" Non-players suffer from the same thing. I went with Gold 3 in the ZvZ, that was actually Masters 3
Im a plat zerg on NA and it makes these so easy. It's literally just 'how much better are these players than me?' or 'how much worse are these players than me?' Factor in that EU players seem way better than their NA counter parts within the same rank, so if I see something that looks like diamond 1 on NA but the replay is from EU then I put down diamond 3. I play sooo much less starcraft than these guys but somehow I can guess ranks really well because of it.
Same I’m around 3k all races and I guessed all but the 3rd correct, guess being bad makes you good :)
me too!!! they guessed too wrongly ahahaha
I would love the occasional minimap only format in season 6, it sounds hilarious to do occasionally
I love that idea too. Maybe 1 game per episode and if Kevin is worried about the audience tuning out, just show us both while the contestant only sees the minimap.
I went Gold 1 -> Master 2 -> Diamond 2 -> Master 3 for a total of 9 points. This season is brutal
I first read this during round 2 and it just keeps getting more and more true lmao
That last one had a dead give away, they knew what spellcasters were. That immediately makes them better than Gold. Some of those Force Fields were good. There's micro. Even a Cloak to avoid damage from the stalker blink. Harstem was just on tilt.
The best duo back at it, ready for more co-op campaign too
I wanna see both of them keep playing lifeforce too
This is the one game that lower level players have the advantage.
Serral is world champion...
Hamster, UpATree's score on the final round is spoiled with the graphics at the end of round 1.
Overlay displaying score spoilers early in the video
But remember, 12:08 Hamster doesn't care about the rules :)
Hamster went crazy with his quality and missed a few
Everyone has gotten so much better in this game!
harstem throwing this season, those guesses are troll, bro got in his own head
8:32 money shot all of terrans desire
Game 3 is idk, when guy saved the queen at low hp, with guy getting back after killing a spine etc, I thought that it's no way lower than masters, lol.
Love the vibe! Up a tree great fun
Playing along:
G1 - sweet
M2 - wow, really? That's just 1 above my rank and they were way better
D3 - ZvZ is so though, I have no idea. Blind shot. WHAT, OK I guess
D1 - oyyy, bad day
That would be a fun bonus round mini map and audio only
4:45 95% of what upatree tells is a game i just recently had.
the rank, the muta harass (although i did lose more than 1 mineral line to it xD), the mismicro losing me my army...
it was basically the same game, except i realised the whole game that i'm just slightly worse than the other guy, because if i had microed slightly better, i would've had a chance... because even though he ran through multiple mineral lines, i still had the better eco xD
April fools stream where they cast games showing only three mini map.
So glad you made more of these videos ❤
Come on man - I came here to see you get Canon Rushed... again !!
whats the song when they are discussing?
Bring 4 people on (3+the captain)
And do a mini map only with production tab at the top, please. Omg that would be incredible
I got 7 total this time, I enjoy playing at home with you guys. I felt game 3 with the zergs, they moved way too fast in and out of nydus, and the red zerg insta canceled the lair when the nydus popped. Too fast for low leagues.
I think it would be fun to rank participants by their point difference to Harstem rather than their raw score.
they guessed all right, just in the wrong game hahahahaha
just minimap would be hilarious. Maybe do one of those in a episode and the rest with game and minimap without production tab and money etc. in season 6
I know now you have never seen uThermal's Thor/BC play...
My favorite format.
Last game was a RuFF build.
It sounds like Upatree is screaming into the michrophone but it's not loud? 😆
I love Rank Roulette so much!
Hartson really has blocked that worst game from his memory, so he keeps thinking it’s his worst game lmao
17:32 the NA games are different because they're casual players...
I think Americans don't play SC2 as seriously as the EU and especially the Koreans. So they can play for years, and have a decent strategy, but struggle with implementing them because they have no muscle memory because they play for 2hrs/month.
I would watch the alternative format with just the minimap
11:39 You thought this guy was as good as you? That's crazy.
Omg my favourite TvT commentator
Why does Harstem assume that when someone cheeses (hatchery cheese) that he does it in every game? He himself has an account that cannon rushes sometimes but not always. The skill level is where the decision making, micro and macro is. Not necessarily what type of build order you see. For all we know that could be the one game a good guy decides to troll.
Man I was on 3 points until round 3 😂
I went gold 3, diamond 1, and then SILVER 1 for the third game.
Im surprised they didnt mention the lazy mouse panning during game play. Theres no way a masters player does that.
lol. I love how out of touch Harstem is with play below the highest level. We see 30 slow banelings with no support in one clump waddling towards a sieged Terran that isn't even in a spot that's threatening the zerg, and the reaction is: 'Look at that terran preperation, might be as high as GM'
I got 10 points this time, i guessed plt 2, dia 2, plt 3, plt 3.
1. Plat1
What?.. Gold O_o
2. Diamond2
Build orders are nice and tight, but the micro wasn't there as if they were GMs.
3. Master2
Micro is just slightly better, transfuses are timed, the way the controlled their armies was a bit better than the previous one.
4. Plat2
I'd play similar to this, so... I just recognized my level xD
Only minimap challenge would be great question for Who wants to be a grandmaster:)
G2 D2 D2 G2, total of 7, one of my better scores, possibly my best(dont keep track), last one is the only one i didnt do well on. Dont know what those losers problem is.
(There is no sampling bias here, I dont comment my scores regularly because I dont like showing of, not because they are unimpressive or bad or anything, this single example clearly shows I am smarter then them and would do very well on this show, I wouldnt perform even worse when im on the spot, no couldnt be me)
I don’t even watch the game just the argument. And I have to say Harstem nearly lost the show.
WE MADE IT BOYS!
Hamster, do you consider Harstem your boy? or an employeer? 😂
MUM IM FAMOUS
i got plat 3, masters 3 and diamond 2, gold 1
HAHAHAHA. No fucking way. I said Gold 1 for the first game and I saw their answers and I was like, "Am I way off?" Ahahaha.
0, 2, 3, and me and Harstem picked the same rank for the last guy. So 9, total. A few episodes back I had a score of like 1 or 2. Cause I was getting them all on the money. 0 or 1 points. I don't remember which episode, I did comment on it though.
TH-cam has been horrible at recommending these videos, or you have been horrible naming them so I missed them. I saw the first I think, and now I found the 6th.
well then just subscribe already :)
can someone send me lambos rank roulette episode from this season i cant seem to find it
th-cam.com/video/3Fd-hByU_QU/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=Harstem
@@maxime_weill thank you very much
I got a 3 total on this one.
Let`s say that there are guys with better chemistry with Harstem (like Grant e.g.)...
Harstem saying last one is def not d3 was so funny since I had a game exactly like that just tvz. In d3 scouting is not that great so mass banshees can get you so suprised you cant do anything about it.
Harstem has stopped looking at resource float entirely this season. If you just based guesses off of resources floated you could have nailed the first two games, we'll see about rest.
I am getting worst at this.
I thought it was a french flag for a sec when harstem was introduced
in platinum i dont think anybody says like that was a nice response
The only thing worse than playing badly is playing slowly (and badly).
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"i looked at the apm it was in the low hundrets" ... no xD just no xD
minimap only challenge? so you guys study the thingthe players never look at?
theres a beautiful irony there
Ive tried watching upatrees videos before and he jusy comes across as such a douche. His viewership is still low despite kevim doing multiple videos with him, im guessing because most people find him insufferable. i dont know why harstem colabs with him, i cant stand him.
SM7B vs RE20
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