Berlioz: Symphonie fantastique - Roger Norrington, OAE (4/5)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.ย. 2013
- Hector Berlioz: Symphonie fantastique (Op. 14, 1830)
Sir Roger Norrington, conductor
Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment
Helsinki Music Centre, 1 September 2013 - เพลง
Heard the piece last week at Musikverein on modern instruments and was clouded because it was pointless, dull, tedious. Now I am beginning to understand what Berlioz had in mind. A truly enlightened performance! The two cornets are the most gorgeous thing you ever want to hear.
How fast do you think a "March to the Scaffold" would actually be? I LOVE IT.
Well actually Berioz's original tempo was double what is typically preformed.
I was at this concert - I can see myself behind the orchestra! In this movement I was embarrassed to find myself leaning forwards looking down on the orchestra, my whole body moving in time with this strong, slow pulse. I slunk back in my seat, and looked around. The whole row was leaning forwards and their bodies moving in time to the music! I've never experienced anything like it before. The whole performance was stunning, and the normally reserved Finns were ecstatic!
The conductor looks like he's waiting to get back to his evening bottle of scotch and round of russian roulette.
Your comment blew up on the facebook group "Guess the Score" lol
Although it is hard to believe, this conductor did not die during this concert. He is still alive today!
@@semafor5640 "this conductor"...
Great! I loved it.
Does it remind us Mahler's first symphony ??? Berlioz: Great inspiration for many composers ...
This is the sleepiest reading of this movement ever. The conductor is near catatonic.
4:20 into Ophicleide
Excelente versión!
Brilliant sound of the orchestra, but veeeery slow version...
the deep buzz of the ophicleides is amusing
but really mediocre video, much brass playing and they show the strings......same with the bassoon solo, they show the violins !
Maybe what you hear is the bass trombone, 2.00 2.15 4.22 4.35 5.10 5.20 on som low pedal tones.
@@svenlarsson Yep according to the score as well, that pedal Bb is played by the bass Trombone.
Just put the playback speed to x1.25
You're welcome 🤗
Idk I'm not a fan of the tempo but the period instruments made up for it.
lol at 5:50 the universal gesture for "if cymbal player gets his entrance right he will get paid"
쩐다
'A bit less in the tromb...'
PFFFFFFFFFB 'No.'
trop lent mais l'orchestre sonne bien et l'effet de mouvement (approche du cortège) est parfois réussi
Exactement le tempo donné par Berlioz: 72 à la blanche...
This is awfully slow, don't you think? It doesn't sound like someone about to be executed, but rather a stroll on the beach.
+Mark Osten This Berlioz's own metronome marking. This is an original instruments performance, therefore they HAVE to obey the composer's metronome marks, no matter whether we (or even they) think they work or not!!
lipkinasl The metronome mark in the score is 72 to the half note (semibreve). I just compared Norrington's actual tempo in this video to the metronome and got 58 to the half note. So he is definitely under tempo.
+lipkinasl
This is absolute rubbish. You make it sound like historically informed performance leaves no room for interpretation. There is just as much room for musical interpretation as with modern performances, except it is under slightly different parameters, and under the general principles of respecting the performance practice of the time and place of the music you're playing as informed by study of historical and musicological context. The performance practice, at any time in history, has NEVER been to be a bunch of robots incapable of artistic judgement. It would thus be wrong to fall into this trap - what is important is that the artistic judgement you are using is historically informed and not your default 21st century musical mindset.
Unless someone can prove that the custom in Berlioz's time was to strictly follow metronome marks, no matter the acoustics they were playing in, the size or level of the orchestra, etc., your point makes no sense.
I agree. This a lackluster performance. Also why is no one using no vibrato?! I much prefer the Munch/Boston Symphony recording of this.
Nathaniel Robinson As far as I'm aware, vibrato wasn't really used until the mid-20th century.
awful camera work
there he is. the least pretentious conductor on the planet.
The conductor looks bored most of the time. Maybe it's past his bed time.
Like no many of Norrington's performances, soulless and robotic. Horrible.
Too damned slow. I can't stand conductors who try to second-guess the composer. The conductor's JOB is to follow the composer's lead, not the other way around.
About the worst performance if the Berlioz symphony I have heard. A mess. All the romanticism sucked from it so you're left with a robot's version.