Unifi Protect All-In-One Sensor - Home Assistant integration
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 พ.ค. 2024
- How many sensors does this thing have!? I unpack, set up, adopt and then integrate the Unifi Protect All-In-One sensor into Home Assistant.
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Chapters:
0:00 So many sensors!
1:53 A tiny box
7:07 Install as door sensor
9:17 Unifi Protect adoption
13:52 Using all the sensors
17:44 Home Assistant integration
21:12 Automating blinds with the All-In-One sensor
23:27 The price - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
My wife just said why are you watching a guy unbox a bloody big tampon 😂
I was trying so hard in the video not to mention that 😂
Excellent video, thanks for making it! btw, your sense of humor is "just my type"! keep it coming!
You are so welcome mate. I am just me, so much more coming 😂
I got these to use for bathrooms for motion and humidity. Was going to use them to turn a smart switch on with Home Assistant for a light and exhaust fan. The problem I ran I to was the temp/humidity reports back to home assistant ever 15 minutes of so and the have the exhaust fan run way longer than needed. I do use them for door sensors in other parts of the house and they work great.i ended up just building so.e temp/humidity sensors for the bath using a esp32 device and a couple of sensora
Yes, I found the same. Temp, ambient light and humidity are updated every 5min for me, but the door sensor (and alarm I'd hope) is immediate. I also use Esp32 or SwitchBot sensors where I need more immediate feedback.
A few things.
1. That automation you made is gonna get triggered even when you switch on the lights in your office, then the lux sensor is gonna think it's day and open your blinds. So, for blinds, best option is still getting the actual sunrise/sunset time according to the location from a service and using that to trigger the blinds. Or you could buy an outdoor lux sensor, but that still is gonna get triggered by outdoor/porch lights,etc.
2. Those unavailable entities in home assistant, i believe if you click on them, you can force enable them to get some more data in home assistant.
3. A few automations that came to my mind,
a. At night, if you office is unoccupied, you can create a toggle switch in home assistant to basically arm the motion sensor, so after that if any motion is detected until morning, then someone might have gotten in.
b. You should also set very high temp/humidity alerts in home assistant. Very high temp could indicate a fire.
You are absolutely right. It was an attempt to create an automation that wouldn't take too long 😂 I do have an outdoor light sensor too, which I use for the outdoor lights on the whole farm.
Those are good automation ideas too. I like the high temp one, as that fits nicely with a future video I have planner 😉
I've been using 4 of these for about a year not also integrated through HA and here's what I found. No mater how strong the BT connection is, these sensors tend to drop connection for several seconds and then reconnect. Clearly this causes issues with HA automation as the sensor goes from its current state to unknown and then back to current state. It is annoying. For example, if you walks into a room and expect the sensor to trigger a Lights On automation, it won't do it if its not connected. Then the thing connects and the lights come on. The delay can be significant.
Second, these sensors are battery hogs. I replace my batteries at least once a quarter regardless of what sensors are turned on.
Overall these sensors are perfect especially if you are in a UniFi Protect environment. However the items above have prevented me from buy additional sensors. Ubiquiti needs to improve the BT connectivity of these sensors or move to a WiFi connection over BT.
Great observations Robert, and thanks for sharing ☺
I just checked and while the ambient light, temp and humidity update every 5 minutes, the motion detection should be instant, but I am also getting the occasional "unavailable". It isn't an issue for me as I only trigger on the motion detected event, but I see your point. With regards to the battery usage, that might be why the sensor drops off? To save battery. It is too early for me to make a call on it, but so far the sensor hasn't moved off the 95% battery level.
I don't think Wifi is feasible. I have one for my mail box sensor, and talk about power hungry! They would need a much bigger battery I think, so would be a difficult thing to hide.
So far, the sensor has worked exactly as I expected, and there are no actual drop-outs, like the Aqara units that I have to re-pair every 3-4 months.
That's exactly right. I have 5 and face this issue constantly and consistently on ALL of them. They are the most unreliable sensors I have ever purchased. It really messes up my occupancy/presence automations since they take into account many different sensors but motion is the most important one and the heaviest variable in my bayes calculations
Great video. Loved the pastoral sing-off.
Haha, thanks Don. We need more sing-offs 🎤🎤
@@LarsKlintTech Ha! I saw the autocorrect happen and did not read it closely! I guess the auto correct is creating a better life for us.
@@angrysong I'll take it! 😂
I’m unifi crazy, but i’m not stupid and prepared to pay anything close to what they want (I’m in Australia too).
It’s Aqara everyday of the week for me regarding sensors.
I hear you. If I could use all of the sensors at the same time, I'd get more. I still might, but it is a question of what Aqara can do as well.
You can test the smoke alarm sensor/detection by pulling up a TH-cam video of an American smoke detector and playing it next to the sensor!
Why didn't I think of that!! 😅
Very cool. I'm gonna get some of these.
Yeah, it is really cool. Remember there is a 3-pack available too if you need more 😊
@@LarsKlintTech Granted I did post this comment before I got to the bit about the price!!
@@simonholman Nah, too late. You have to buy them now!!
tampering detection uses accelerometer and usually used in motion sensors to set an alarm when someone tries to mess with sensor by moving it in different position and etc. here it was clearly detecting motion of the door swing when opened/closed, but if you would put it on the door hinge and magnet on the door itself it could provide useful input if someone is trying to break the door itself or to put it down without disrupting open/closed state of the sensor
In my case it won't fit the other way, but that makes sense using the accelerometer for that purpose. Although according to the manual, the accelerometer is meant for a garage door opener, so that would trigger the tamper detection constantly? 🤔
@@LarsKlintTech not sure as i don't own one of these and aware of tampering detection only based on other sensors that i have, but I think that it would trigger tampering if someone would hit the door or smth, but would not trigger if it's also moving up/down (based on settings of where installed). One of my sensors for example also measures tilt in case when installed on window or non-standard door to distinguish positions of normally opened and opened just for ventillation, so i think it's mostly a setting/software config thing here.
great sensor, crazy price.
Small correction; 20-25C does not equal to 600.000.000 F.. I'm preaty sure the C->F conversion rate is something like 3.1415926535 making 25C equal to 1.41421F (in a gravitational free vacuum with a fluxtuating relative humidity). Apologies for beeing so detail oriented, but once you do the x3+y3+z3=k everything gets more simple.
Apologies for my mistake. I appreciate you attention to detail, but I suspect you didn't account for the marzel vane being deployed.
The UniFi Cameras now have the alarm sound detection and I have been getting notifications of triggers which were reversing vehicle buzzers.
Wow, I had no idea! Do you have to enable anything on the cameras?
@@LarsKlintTech Ensure that your controller/UNVR is up to date and you have G5 cameras. Not sure on G4. It will likely be on by default but you will have a funny icon on recording if its an ausio event.
@@bentheguru4986 Oh yeah!! I see them on the G5 cameras. Thanks for sharing Ben 😁
Wonder your thoughts on the it being Bluetooth. I don't have a big house (1300 sq. ft.) and I have 2 APs (U6 LR, and U6 In-Wall), but I still have trouble with the sensors losing connectivity because my doors are not close to were my APs are. I really wish there was a better connectivity option.
I don't think there was much of a choice for Ubiquiti to make it with another protocol. Bluetooth has the battery life needed, but less range. Using wifi would have compromised either size (to fit a big battery) or battery life. I would use Zigbee, which I have many sensors using, but UI don't have that in their repertoire.
Hi Lars, Nice video. I did look at these myself but opted to stay with my aqara ZigBee devices, yes it means i need 3 sensors to do the same job but they are very small i can have them in different parts of the room. Also, I'm keen to move to the newer radar presence sensors rather than movement sensors, when I'm working really really hard at my desk I sometimes don't really move and the automations are triggered and I have to do a big old wave.
I hear you. I haven't got any of the mmWave sensors yet, but definitely planning on using those. Just not sure which ones 🤔
Looks like a good sensor, theres just 2 things that stopping me from buying a bunch of them. I haven't seen other sensors that have the ones I want, I'm after lux, humidity and motion as the main ones. Haven't seen ones that do have all 3 of them in 1, which is why im considtering it, even with the price.
1. Like we talked about in your community post, they dropped bluetooth from the newer AP's which make me concerned if I bought a bunch of them now that when I go to upgrade me AP's it means they might be useless
2. The 5 min update is very slow, I want instant updates for door/motion (in HA), and like 30 second updates for the rest. Obvisually that would destroy battery life, but I'd rather run USB power to it and have the frequent updates, than have very slow updates, as well as a battery you've got to change
Valid points. The door/window sensor is immediate, but I can't see a way to update temp/humidity/luminosity more frequent than every 5min.
I don't know what will happen with the Bluetooth part. I have plenty of ways within HA to get BT connection to it, but don't think it will work that way. For now I will have the APs for some time still, so not an immediate concern.
@@LarsKlintTech yeah I don't see unifi opening up for direct Bluetooth with HA..
My main concern over the 5 Min is I would use it in ensuite to trigger the fan, so 5m is just to slow...
The everything presence one is about the only one I'm aware of that meets all my requirements.. It's just pretty close to impossible to buy with how popular it is
My only issue with that device is the battery type CR123 🤦♂️.
Just do next version with AA or AAA please
In Australia the CR123 is readily available, so it isn't an issue. To get 3V from AA, you'd need two of them, which becomes a size issue too.
I guess the value is the integration into protect, rather than just against other sensors. I do question if the placement works well for all the sensor types, and agree about the US Vs AUS pricing.
What can I use it with in Protect though? There isn't anything I can trigger based on the values in the sensor, so for me it makes sense to add them to HA and use them there. I think it is a pretty good placement, although as mentioned in another comment the lights in the office might trigger the automation I made as well.
I have a philo happauge one pretty much identical to this for about 5 years. Same battery too. It's ZWAVE tho
Interesting. I can only find TV tuners and video equipment from Hauppage currently. Also, I haven't used ZWave at all, so couldn't really use it here 🙁
@@LarsKlintTech that's certainly what they are most known for. mySmarthome
Four-in-One Sensor is the name of it. I'm looking for a zigbee alternative as I'd rather not be running a ZWAVE bridge.
@@TrickyTree84 I am not aware of any Zigbee sensors that have all those features, let alone more than 2-3. You might be better off getting dedicated sensors where you need them.
I have 5 of these around my house. All within a few feet from a U6 access point. They are all constantly dropping out/offline for 15-20 seconds every few minutes. They are unfortunately the most unreliable sensors I own and I have bought/tried ALOT of different brands over the years. I really like Ubiquity products and didn't question these when I bought them, which is the reason I bought 5... and now I'm just waiting and watching the months pass by for a firmware update to hopefully fix them. Don't buy these if you (like me) rely on these for your home automation and expect them to trigger reliably.
Thanks for your insights, I really appreciate it. My single sensor also drops out occasionally, but it is nothing like what you describe. I get maybe once a day for 10 seconds or so. Have you tried asking on the Ubiquiti community forum? I have more issues getting the data into Home Assistant, but that could be the third party HA integration too.
Well that was a nice surprise. Looks like the latest Protect build (3.x) has completely fixed the issue. I've had 0 disconnects since I updated a few days ago
@@51av0sh Oh, that is good news! I will keep an eye on mine as well, to see if there is an improvement.
It's baffling that the new U7 access points lack bluetooth, so this sensor is basically EOL.
Kinda. It is going to be a while before everyone has a U7, and perhaps there will be a solution coming? But, baffling, yes.
I ran into the same issue ordering equipment for my new house. Ordered a 3-pack of the sensors as well as 3 of the U7 Pro AP’s on the 1st day they were available. Didn’t find out until later that the U7’s don’t have Bluetooth. I’m going to send the sensors back until there is a real solution for this.
@@bvzweig I will pose the question to Unifi and see if there is any official stance to it.
@@LarsKlintTech Much appreciated, thanks!
Great vid-On a side note: The 600lb magnet you’ve installed on the office door-Why did you do external install instead of Z bracket? That mag is easily defeated with a 1/4" (Oops 6mm) drill bit, from the outside. Granted, it’s a mostly glass door that can be broken easily, allowing a hand to press the button,yes -if it’s known..
I just find it really comical when I see the sex bolt mounted to the door and it’s on the inside - 😂
does the motion detector go off easily vs pets?
It is reasonably sensitive, so a pet would definitely set it off.
Tampering detected might be door open/closed? Also, thanks for the llama cam at the end!!!
Hmmm, that sounds unlikely. The door sensor is already immediate?
Haha, you are welcome. They always insist on being in the videos 😂
Tamper detection is when you pull the sensor down to replace the batter or disable it. It requires more than just a door open or door close. I have to resetthat everytime I have to change the battery
@@joe99rt1 Thanks Joe. I thought it was something along those lines. How do you reset it?
What all do I need to get this to work on my Unifi Cloud Key Gen 2
You need a Unifi access point with Bluetooth that the sensor can connect to, and then adopt it into Unifi Protect.
@@LarsKlintTech which UniFi access point do you suggest. Do all of the UniFi access points have Bluetooth
@@soesbetech Depends on your needs, but a U6 Lite is a good option.
The new generation of U7 APs, so far don't have BT.
Are you still working with Cloud Guru as well? I used to like your videos on there.
Long story, but no. I still do some content for the parent company Pluralsight though.
I'm not sure how to feel about this thing. It looks nice but some of the sensors seem to negate each other. Things like putting a temperature and humidity sensor right where a door opens may well subject them to drafts and skew the readings so having them in a door/windows sensor doesn't seem to make sense. Considering the price, it seems rather wasteful to me since I can't think of any situation where I would want most of those sensors in the same place. The big minus for me is that it only works if I spend even more money on a UniFi wireless access point. If it was something like ZigBee, I might consider it
I've gone through the exact same mind exercise as you mate. It is a lot of sensors, and I can't for the life of me think of a scenario where you'd use all, so I can only conclude that isn't the main purpose. As I mention in the video, and as you say too, then I feel like I am missing out somehow.
With regards to being in the Unifi world, that is part of the appeal/drawback, as it makes it super simple to set up. Unifi wants you in their eco-system, because then they can guarantee a good user experience they control. I get it, but I also like to tinker, so that is why the Home Assistant integration is so useful.
@@LarsKlintTech Can you talk to this sensor with a generic Bluetooth dongle or is it some proprietary system?
@@paulstimpson830 Not that I am aware of. The only way I know to get it "out in the world" is to use the Home Assistant integration to Unifi Protect.
Nice intro.😂😂
Thanks mate. Had to get all my friends over for this one 😂
It would have been very easy to test the alarm functionality.
In hindsight: definitely.
I've thought about picking one of these up. LOL it's basically the swiss army knife of sensors. LOL
It very much is. And the sensor itself is really small for having that many features I reckon. Knife not included though 😛
Your prosody is throwing me for a loop. Are you a Danish ex-pat? :-)
What fancy words you use 😂 Yep, I am indeed Danish.
@@LarsKlintTech Tænkte jeg det ikke nok! :-D
What I want to know is, did you get that haircut/wig especially for this video 😜🤣
Hehe, maaaaaaybe.... 😏
@@LarsKlintTech and here I thought you had lots of brothers join you on camera 😁
@@Stephen-Jones I did! Obviously....
If only it used zigbee, then it would be the PERFECT sensor.
Perfect for you and me, but it wouldn't fit into the Unifi world at all. They have no zigbee devices to integrate with, so I suspect that is why they went down the BT route.
@@LarsKlintTech Indeed.
Its a shame many of these companies want to force you into their ecosystem.
especially for very specific products like heating/thermostat panels
I myself am currently looking for a easy to use [86type] zigbee opentherm thermostat.
its a NON-EXISTENT product, with most zigbee thermostats for boilers being only dry-contact [on/off]
already contacted 10 sellers on aliexpress [8 of which where good brand-name ones]
out of 10 8 responded that they didn't have one.
1 lesser known brand said they could make it, but it would be at least 1000 units minimum order due to dev-times.
Should have got it from pc case gear mate.
Hadn't heard of them so thanks 👍
I got this one directly from UniFi.