I could listen to Peter for days. I miss his brother terribly, too. Two insightful men, often at odds with one another, who could hold a cracking, honest, good faith debate. PH should be a regular (if he wants it) on GB News.
I feel so silly I've worked on construction all my life, left school at 13. I'm 60 now and never realised that Christopher and Peter are brother's. Damn feel silly
@@patkearney9320 Ironically you probably have learnt more by skipping college and possessing a useful trade and life experience than the blue haired alphabet people with 2 PhDs.
@@arealamericanamerican3204 Do you know anything about Peter Hitchens? I fear your juvenile retort quite missed it's mark and found the wrong brother. Christopher God Bless him has since departed.
@@johnnycharisma162 Yes I'm aware but I am not. Any reason you chose to point out Christopher's stance on Religion to me ? Along with liking a drink and enjoying a debate I'd have thought it perhaps the most common knowledge. Well done though.
Indeed. Putin was created by the labour party. All leftwingers should be put in the stocks as its clear that only conservatives are Morally correct in everything they do! Wake up mate. The wrong brother died if cancer, plain + simple!!
Don’t think Russia will be in the dark though. Looks like Europe will be seeing as we rely on Russia for so much oil and gas. Have you seen Kyiv and all the fake check points and burnt out vehicles. Zero damaged buildings. The fake news around this is insane.
The West of Europe should of reached out to Russia decades ago. But America will never let Germany and Russia come together which would be great for European Civilisation. America wants complete domination of Europe. It will be American driven Globalisation particularly open borders mass immigration that destroys European Civilisation not Christian Russia. Also the West should not of backed the coup against the ELECTED government of Ukraine 8 years ago that started this nightmare. This bloody war has been going on for 8 bloody years with 14,000 people died BEFORE last week. Russia has been slow to act, America would of acted after 8 hours if this was Canada. Nato has been surrounding Russia for decades and using Ukraine to destabilise Russia. Even backing the ruthless NeoNazi group AZOV BATTALION. Please Google AZOV BATTALION.
Most of my own generation lack the patience, open-mindedness and nuance to even bother entertaining a discussion this important/valuable. An utter tragedy.
About time an alt right media outlet stood up against its Russia bot propagandist commentators. The same mob that has Sewen distrust in Western democracies over the past 5 years it so obvious they are Quizlings or paid stooges.
True. You won't hear from the media in any country in the West that the Ukraine should remain a neutral buffer state after this invasion is finished, and not be enticed into NATO or the EU. Nor should it be aligned with Russia, of course. The Ukraine should trade with the whole world on its own terms, attract foreign investment and fight its own endemic corruption levels.
@Dan I think he reached a point where notoriety isn't of any concern to him anymore. He's 70. The old country he knew growing up is dead. He does not care anymore. He will speak his mind freely. Bless him !
I have watched many interviews with Peter Hitchens, I believe this is one of the best. There was no confrontation, no pride and no desire to have a "gotcha" moment from Colin Brazier. Peter Hitchens is an immensely intelligent man who is maligned and deliberately misunderstood by many. This interview allowed him to show his true humanity. I believe GB News is a breath of fresh air and I also believe that Mr Hitchens should be given a regular slot on this great channel.
Scale of 10, 2 pts.to Peter, 6 to Colin. The listener has to put up with extensive stutterrings from Hitchen to get a tiny understanding of what the heck he is trying to say. Very, very incomplete interview. Blinking waste of time.
@@tinaforbes1059 Marshall your ponies Tina, I'm saying that humans are being slaughtered and everyone around the world including Mr. Hitchens is more concerned with how it will affect their money, property, lifestyle, and holdings than doing the right thing. Mr. Brazier is nothing but a bought and paid for talking head that actually benefits from tragedy around the world, always offering an opinion (someone's) for money... that's his job. A little baby sociopathic war profiteer, just like all profit-driven news media spewing 24/7 owner-directed opinion and perspective around the world. If you want to sit back and be a sycophant to someone Tina you should look to those that are doing more than talking. Stay safe.
Except he got it completely wrong on the invasion.... literally days before Russia invaded Ukraine Peter said it would never happen. He says statements which such conviction everyone thinks he's always right...
They can get things wrong though. Hitchens said Putin would not invade Ukraine. He said he would have to be mad or insane. Following that up with he did not think Putin was mad or insane. So what does he think now? I have always said that Putin would invade , but in the South to join Crimea with the separatist regions... I was wrong too! Being right in part is still not right.
@@thetruth6417 Well that's because anyone that points out NATO/EUs failed strategy before doing so, for leftwing audience members you need to first say ''Putin bad Putin bad Putin? Putin bad! Putin. Putin.'' You need to say that about 60 times in a row so that the leftwing Labour voter types don't think you're condoning Russia by pointing out the failures of the West.
@@greyvoice7949 Well he may of thought that Zenesky would of been open to discussion on the Donbas region where predominately 14000 civilians had been killed by an aggressive Ukrainian army with a strong element of neo Nazi AVOX battalion. Who were constantly receiving more powerfull armament from America. Zelensky was told to back of by the far right party that actually got him voted in from his TV comedy programme of a teacher seeking peace.
@@onlyme8117 As a rule I would say 'there are no experts'. We found that with Covid and even now we see people still believing what 'experts' said despite it now appearing they were so far away from the truth you may as well asked a child for the response to Covid. However , in the matter of will Russia invade Ukraine (back then) , Putin was the one true expert... He said he was not going to though... But then he would hardly tell everyone the plan!
@Anya Wale As am I. I'm showing compasssion for a fellow human being, whose demeanour has lately shown resignnation and dejection.There is a world of shit coming to the west financially, within a few months. Cannot give in to resentment and bitternesss, as they will consume you. Have to be positive and try to remain optimistiic
@Anya Wale You are watching a video, with somebody being interviewed, which I commented on. What makes you think I am not compassionate to the Ukrainians.very strange comments? Why don't you show some compassion for the Ukrainians?
@Anya Wale Try reading my comment properly, instead of standing on your high horse.I am compassionate to the Ukrainians, but that doesn't mean I can't have compassion for others, Also. Wearing your delusion did you read "I am not worried"? Looks like you're a hater, just looking to project and from your problems onto others.if you have nothing nice tto say, don't say anything.
Deep thought from our leaders? Or the MSM? Don't see that happening! We all know Leaders are to blame , but then Boris is in deep trouble when people realise he is responsible for everything of late that has happened in the UK and how he is making US pay for it... 'Peoples Government' is laughable unless you put the word RICH at the start!
Full of intellectual flaws in the assessment of the current situation, for example Ukraine could become like Libya. Discounting the fact that the tribal, political and cultural underpinning of Libya is entirely different. Whilst declaring intellectual certainty about the invasion after the event of invasion. People are constantly predicting outcomes and are often wrong. Equally people are constantly predicting outcomes that prove to be correct. It does not necessarily prove that an alternative outcome wasn't equally possible. Certitude is vanity. There is no rigour in this discussion as there is no exploration of an alternative negative outcome if NATO had not allowed defenceless smaller nations to join at their request. You could argue the situation now is because of the lack of inclusion in NATO not the expansion of NATO. The comment supporting Russia post USSR is also much more complex than Hitchens would have us believe. He calls for more complexity in thinking when it suits him and less rigour when it doesn't.
Absolutely brilliant. I'm so pleased Colin Brazier has broken free of Rupert Murdoch's shackles at Sky News and can conduct interviews of this quality with intelligent and thought provoking discussion. Peter Hitchens as always is brilliant. Can GB News give him a permanent slot. You'll see your ratings go up for sure.
It is pretty shallow. It is a usual disclaimer of not supporting Putin, claiming the West made some mistakes, instead of stating clearly that the West, the US first, actually wanted a proxy confrontation with Russia. That is the policy of the West, not a minor misunderstanding
@@gdiwolverinemale2745 They still have a political correctness that they must follow otherwise the woketards will complain to Ofcom and the channel will get cancelled.
The woke leftys were not the aggressors. You could argue the alt right ultra nationalist fascist minority didn't help and gave the anti woke alt right ex commie Putin, self appointed leader, a feeble excuse as he is scared of democracy.
When he talks of Bercow, he explains that he doesn’t agree with his ideas, nor finds him likeable - and yet he goes on to recognize his strengths and achievements. That’s why we are drawn to Hitchens, truth and objectivity and despite being a truly great man, he doesn’t lord it over anyone. A true modern English gentleman.
Absolutely loved this. It’s wonderful when a discussion makes you think rather than telling you what to think. I’d love it if GB news grew more in this direction. More, please - and thanks.
It is proper discussion no click-bait just a discussion we're you can say I disagree without interruption of your statement and troglodyte guests screaming your racist.
I love Peter's statement regarding optimism. My grandfather endorsed and instilled the same perspective. A pessimistic man relies on the rationale of reality. An optimists is a fool, and is prone to being blind sided by reality.
I wish I had realised this earlier. Despite a modicum of success in my life, I can’t help feeling that sometimes false optimism held me back and encouraged avoidable mistakes.
@@niguel4438 though pessimism can often become cynicism which robs people of joy and makes them unpleasant people to live with and have interaction with
@@Bellissimovolere and sometimes viewing everyone as potentially corrupt and out to rip you off just poisons people's world view..dont give to charity, ignore beggars as they might be con artists, do nothing for free, never help the police, ignore someone in the street on the pavement. A cynical pov would have seen the Parable of the Good Samaritan in a different light
@Anya Wale where did i say i was ok with people being killed? I worked in Kyiv. You said elsewhere why didnt i go there and i said i didnt agree with it nor with Russophobia. Are you Russian btw as Anya is Russian but Wale is not. I am Welsh btw. Van Pallandt is a Dutch historical figure
Funny how it's always the dictators who have "no option" but to invade their neighbours and try to steal their territory. Saddam Hussain claimed he had "no option" but to invade Kuwait. Hitler said the same about Poland, Norway, the Netherlands and Russia. Now Putin is saying it about Ukraine.
Absolutely brilliant discussion from PH and CB. This kind of discourse has become my meat and drink from a variety of sources. So too often these days, these choices are limited by the MSM’s complete lack of sensible, articulate discussion. Instead, we are furnished with an inarticulate jeremiad of complete babble.
Good post, and what is depressing is that 'educated' ppl these days fail to even realise how dire is the output from the MSM, where all they do is sing in unison about whatever is the latest MSM line to push. Then they push it and no proper discussion is allowed - and, unbelievably, MOST PPL CANNOT SEE WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS BLOCKING OF DEBATE. The ppl cannot see that they are being manipulated. They are still pampered & wealthy (except for those who need the NHS) but they might change their thinking when our wealth collapses (soon).
For anyone interested, I would suggest looking for Peter's articles from back in the 2010s about the Russia-Ukraine issues, Crimea, etc. A decade, and more, passed and his writings seem almost prophetic
The Russian people and culture are not our enemy. Play Tchaikovsky Symphony No 2 or read the Brothers Karamazov and still feel the Russians are our enemy.
Very interesting discussion - enjoyed it. Both are more expert than I but wholeheartedly agree that media hysteria is turning this into extreme anti-Russian sentiment (banning authors /composers/ sports stars /cats !) and will if anything lead to great problems in the future (if is one). Western leaders are selective over which tyrants they wish to challenge. There needs to be a peace broker found quickly and Russia will need to feel it gets something out of it or the suffering (& risks) will increase.
When the well being of an entire sovereign democratic nation is in grave danger, and under the worst attack that the world has seen since WW2, if a particular sanction has even the slightest possibility of making a difference, then it should be enacted without hesitation. - This is why I don’t have much sympathy for banned Russian athletes.
@@Make_Boxing_Great_Again Ummm, the worst attack since WW2? What a complete & ridiculous overstatement. Ever heard of the US invasion of Iraq & Afghanistan?
@@Make_Boxing_Great_Again Peculiar how Ukraine has suddenly become a 'free democracy' overnight, while their application to the EU has been denied on multiple occasions on account extreme corruption. Wonder how long it'll be before they declare Yemen a fellow 'democratic nation'
@@vladivanov5500 corruption is different to freedom and democracy - Italy has been free and democratic since 1945 but very corrupt. Or are you saying that Italy is under a one party tyranny?
@@Paul-md8de Because he doesn't plan on making it out alive and wants to spread it around some? I understand you're making a funny Paul, but don't underestimate the insane.
Love how the interviewer tries to get Peter into being all snobby and pretentious about MacDonald's but he shoots it down and says how much he enjoyed his Big Mac! Top man.
I totally agree with you about the peace plan, Colin Brazier. If Zelensky had agreed to these, to my mind not unreasonable demands, weeks ago none of these deaths would have occurred. Ukraine has no choice but to accede to the demands to abide by previous agreements anyway.
What everyone is forgetting though before the invasion that one of Russias initial demands was for all US troops to be removed from Europe, that was never going to happen. Russia INTENDED to go to war by putting clearly impossible requests. The US would never have left Europe while russia were amassing 100k troops on Europe's border.
Not been following events have we. Also you can not possibly see things from the Ukrainian point of view. Nor can I. You need to know what Putin wrote about the Soviet Union to at least have any semblance of an idea. What is really happening and what people are saying are two very different things... Russian Foreign Minister was on yesterday saying there was no war in Ukraine... We all see it as a war , but don't say that in Russia. It is a 'special operation' according to them.
We've been seeing the progress made in the 90s - dissolution of the USSR and Warsaw Pact and the end of the Cold War - steadily been eroded since the late 90s by NATO expansionism.
One of the best bits about GB news is that I get to see clips of both PH and Neil Oliver. I cannot imagine any Australian media organisation doing anything like this.
Now confirmed that a Russian State News Agency, RIA Novosti, paid the Daily Telegraph to run Kremlin friendly & pro Brexit stories in the newspaper for a fee of 10,000 million Euros - sounds like Fox News would do the same
@@jeremysmith8035 Old news. The Guardian ran that story 7 years ago. The Telegraph's partnership contract with the Russians ran out in 2017 when they were paying them £40,000 per month to distribute Russia Beyond the Headlines supplements in its paper. Big deal.
@@piggypiggypig1746 absolultly and its merely co-incidental that gb news and the tory party simulatiously started some nonesense about feminism as the news started reporting more and more about russian connections to the dear leader and gb news is owned by a russian spy though the legartum institute
@@piggypiggypig1746 i live in madrid because our company moved here along with several hundred others to have access to the single market which your trade secetary says is vital for uk trade, iknow when i am being bullshited and leaving the single market was another step towards isolating the uk from world markets leaving the dear leader waving his arms about pretending to sell food and only food to countries which dont want or need it because they make their own cheaper at home, 7.5 grand it cost for the dear leader to commit treason
Good to see GB News attempt to dip into truth again: give more people like Peter a platform to speak about what's really going on in Ukraine and I may subscribe again. Until then I'll just dip in every now and again to see what Neil Oliver has to say.
with respect, does Peter Hutchins speak Russian or Ukrainian? Has he been to the country much? How does he know more about what is really going on than many others?
@@robinmorritt7493 Me, too. I had high hopes for GB News - very disappointing to see them prove themselves to be no different to the rest of msm when it came down to it.
@@loveukraineloverussians2535 I just saw your comment now. I can't answer for Peter Hitchens - I can only answer for myself. I've been following the conflict in Ukraine since 2014 and people are being lied to wholesale about it by msm: I though GB News would be different - they aren't.
Awesome discussion, Colin. P Hitchens is always a pleasure. Hugely enjoyable writer, in the truest sense of the word. Please make this a regular TV segment.
He was a close friend of Christopher Booker he thinks it’s nonsense but won’t speak out because he just gets hysterical responses. CB’s book global warming a case study in groupthink is brilliant and explains the whole scam and more importantly how they did it
@@TheSpoovy the group think explains why so many otherwise intelligent people go along with something so obviously dodgy look at lockdowns. Read the book it answers many questions that I had. I actually think Maurice Strong a now dead corrupt Canadian billionaire politician who is behind this scare was a evil genius
Thank you GBNews for having great content like this thoughtful commentary and allowing Americans access to this. We need GBNews content and information desperately.
We also need to stop being reliant on China to manufacture our goods. Those businesses that farmed their work to China should be ashamed, they’ve put big profits above all else. And we should boycott those businesses wherever possible. Much of what we buy is far from essential.
This here is an excellent example of how we in the west are the indirect architects of most of the shit in this world. Slavery in China exists to meet the indulgent demands of western consumerism.
Always appreciate Peter's point of view on most things, i always feel i have a far more well rounded view on things after listening or reading His writings, even when i do not always agree with Him. Thank you Peter :)
the Russophobia is a choice of the West - ie. America. It is not desired by the Russians. I think it is important to recognise the bigger economic picture which extends beyond Ukraine.
If only Russian aggression wasn’t real. Positioning politicians on British lands, hacking America’s oil pipelines. Hacking the government with solar winds When do you condemn Russian aggression?
A great Interview with Colin and Peter. Very interesting, in my humble opinion, Peter would make a great ambassador for the UK in Russia, though he may disagree with me. I like the fact that Peter emphasis how important it is to listen, and have two sides to the media Story, and communication between us and Russia. Re Navitism, when I go the Italy, I want to meet real Italians, the same in Japan, China Russia Gemany Norway Spain, etc etc. If we are all the same itsnot very interesting.
@@blue24563 I tend to agree with you David, on that point, PH always has many excellent observations, but the one area , I disagree with him is the God point, but hey that’s his belief , I also understand Colin Brazier is also a Devout catholic😊🏴☠️
The way that Peter describes the history of Russia and the missed opportunity to change it during the 90’s feels like one of the greatest missed opportunities in human history. Imagine Russia becoming a more open, affluent and free country like the the Western world. Opportunity lost. 😔
We sent them bad advice. The worst possible advice. That alienated the Russians. Everything since has driven the Russians into a never ending cycle of paranoia.
'a more open, affluent and free country like the Western world...' 🤣🤣😂- see Trudeau, Ardern, Sturgeon, Biden, Macron, party-gate, net zero hypocrisy, £5million per day spend on illegal migrants while UK veterans live on the streets and OAPs struggle, Covid so-called conspiracy theorists (who turn out to be 99% correct as proven by CBC, ONS...) - that's your 'Western world'
America would never allow an independent nuclear power to develop if it can prevent it. America will cling to its dream of maintaining unipolar hegemony as long as it possibly can, which won't be much longer
It's worth reading Brzezinski's works on the US geostrategy regarding Eurasia from 1997. If the US wanted to stay the only global superpower in the long term, then even what remained of the post-Soviet Russia had to be further dismantled. It was Putin who was able to stop it. Brzezinski wrote: "In these circumstances, Russia's first priority should be to modernize itself rather than to engage in a futile effort to regain its status as a global power. Given the country's size and diversity, a decentralized political system and free-market economics would be most likely to unleash the creative potential of the Russian people and Russia's vast natural resources. A loosely confederated Russia -- composed of a European Russia, a Siberian Republic, and a Far Eastern Republic -- would also find it easier to cultivate closer economic relations with its neighbors. Each of the confederated entitles would be able to tap its local creative potential, stifled for centuries by Moscow's heavy bureaucratic hand. In turn, a decentralized Russia would be less susceptible to imperial mobilization." It's also interesting what he wrote about the role of Ukraine in his book, The Grand Chessboard :, “Ukraine, a new and important space on the Eurasian chessboard, is a geopolitical pivot because its very existence as an independent country helps to transform Russia. Without Ukraine, Russia ceases to be a Eurasian empire.” “However, if Moscow regains control over Ukraine, with its 52 million people and major resources as well as access to the Black Sea, Russia automatically again regains the wherewithal to become a powerful imperial state, spanning Europe and Asia.”
As Peter Hitchens has often said, the Ukraine's neutrality was doing fine until western politicians turned up in Kiev encouraging the crowd to depose a government they had democratically elected because it had signed a finance package with Russia.
I think Peter is being a bit selective. The Ukrainian parliament overwhelmingly voted to proceed with a trade agreement with the EU and Yankovich decided to do a deal with the Ruskies. That's what set off the mass protests and ultimately led to him being kicked out.
I have meat Ukrainians on both sides of the political spectrum, there is both a pro Russian and a pro western camp. It is not as black and white as you put it.
@@navylaks2 Exactly, which is why after this invasion is finished, the Ukraine should remain a neutral buffer state and should not be enticed into NATO or the EU. Nor should it be aligned with Russia of course. The Ukraine should trade with the whole world on its own terms, attract foreign investment and fight its own endemic corruption levels.
@@susannamarker2582 You could argue the same for a potential united Korea, if that ever was to happen, one day. I think Stephen F Cohen put it best, there needs to be a federal Ukraine similar to the Bundes Republic of Germany
If they actually wanted peace, like the Ukrainians had and want now...they could have it - maybe you should tell the religious factions of Islam about your concerns. Let us know how you make out...I'll wait.
why is this always being braught up it was heavily contested here .. everybody acts as if people were cheering with joy on the streets MOST people dont want war or bombs etc its the select few who are never in the conflict who make the choices...
@@shadowdawg04 Lol you are brainwashed about Russia as you are about middle east wars and you hold two entirely different opinions simultaneously. Its called cognitive dissonance. We invade someone... thats justified. they should have just surrendered. (1 million dead over 20 yers) Someone you dont like invades someone, in this instance Russia... REEEEE war criminal.. illegal war! (fewer than 20,000 dead so far). etc...
Also some irony that the Russians are bombing the rebels in Syria and Assad used chemical weapons, many Iraqis didnt and dont support the resistance groups, Libya is divided anyway
Of course, he knows that his paymaster Putin is on his way out and that it may take more years that he has left for a new to appear in Moscow! When you are about to lose a substantial part of your income you will be depressed.
Very informative and interesting. My two daughters, both in their early 20's do read, however. So all is not lost. As for Ukraine, Russia and the West's involvement, whilst I have great sympathy with Ukrainian citizens, it's no more than I have for Afghanis, Syrians, Yemene's, Libyans, Iraqi's etc etc. The mainstream media isn't flying their flags as they were fleeing our bullets and intervention, rather than Putins. Their plight is no less worrying.
The same news media organs that enthusiastically enjoyed the invasion of Iraq, is now demanding support for the invaded in Ukraine. The Arab World will never take the Western media seriously ever agaín. Good for them. They are wiser without all the nonsense. Unfortunately not enough have figured it out here.
The Ukraine should remain a neutral buffer state and should not be enticed into NATO or into the EU. Nor should it be aligned with Russia. The Ukraine should trade with the whole world on its own terms, attract foreign investment and fight its own endemic corruption levels.
Honestly all the former Warsaw Pact states and ex-Soviet Republics in Europe, which joined NATO (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Czechia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria) and I'd even venture to suggest former Yugoslav states which joined NATO (Slovenia, Croatia, Montenegro, Macedonia) should never have joined NATO which really in terms of it's original raison d'etre became obsolete when the USSR/WP was disbanded. Like you I think they should have become buffer states and if needs be in a third non-NATO alliance so that they would have had a mutual defence policy, and even which other NATO states in Western Europe could have joined by leaving NATO and thus no longer being under US influence. However that is I suppose a utopian vision which would have meant the US giving up it's military power in Europe, it's had bases in Western Europe since the end of WW2 and I don't suppose it wanted to give them up.
@@simonh6371 Quite right. It's very long-term US policy to use europeans as a springboard into Russia. NATO and the EU are the instruments which serve that aim, which did not end in 1989-91.
@@susannamarker2582 I'd never thought about that and didn't know it went so deep. I knew that the US was keen to get a foothold in Europe post WW2 and to be the next global power as the British Empire declined. But I'd always seen NATO as a necessary counterbalance and defensive block against the USSR and Warsaw Pact. However I recently checked up and found out that NATO was actually formed before the WP.
@@simonh6371 Our allies the USA made sure the british empire declined. First, they got us into such debt with lend-lease during the war and then in 1946, they lent us 3bn Dollars instead of the 8bn Dollars we needed. That's why India went independent a year later, and Ireland saw its chance and proclaimed a republic in 1948. That's why during the 50s, the Royal Navy struck 800 vessels off the Navy list.
@@susannamarker2582 We only finished paying them back for the WW2 loan in 2007 I believe. Also I remember reading somewhere that one of the conditions for assistance in WW2 was Eisenhower (I think) demanding that the UK promise to dismantle it's empire after the war.
The problem with this discussion, like most of the media, they are fixated on the /Actors/ NOT the /Directors/ and /writers/. It's the later ones, which create the need for wars.
The Iraq war was extremely popular in the US. I think something like 90% supported it. I was vocal against it and got banned from many sites for being so. Guessing the same percentage applies today with support for Ukraine with few of these people understanding what came before the invasion. People need to look up 2014 Ukraine and Victoria Nuland.
If you were against the invasion of Iraq then you should be against the invasion of Ukraine, surely? No country should have their sovereignty violated, even if they are ruled by dictators with a disdain for human rights.
Spot on, Robert. I also recommend the 2019 Oliver Stone documentary, Revealing Ukraine. It really connected a lot of dots for me. It left me feeling totally disgusted regarding our (the US) involvement in 2014 coup. All the same characters are in it.
@@rewdwarf123 Yeah, but Putin's reasons are NOT bullshit like Bush's were for invading Iraq. The Russians have genuine concerns about what's going on in Ukraine, like their building up arms, missiles, plans to join NATO, attacks on the Donbas region by the Ukrainian military, weapons labs, threats continually coming from Ukraine and US politicians, the overthrow of a democratically elected govt by the US in 2014....should I go on? They took their complaints to the parties involved and continued to be ignored.
I quite agree .. Putin is ruthless but this hysteria ramped up by Biden is over the top !! I guess it has become personal... Democrats still raging the Hilary Clinton had her emails hacked.
I was such a huge fan of his brother Christopher, except for his stance on Iraq, and in their adversarial debates found Peter to be not only the inferior mind but someone I would never agree with. Yet here we are and I find Peter one of only a few voices that makes any sense. Its very much a strange, perhaps obscene reality that the right is now the left and the left the right and the centre has completely vanished.
The right became the left when the places where billionaires are made (big business, state grants) were taken over by the left, as in such businesses the corrupt and ruthless are favoured - Microsoft for example came out on top being the most ruthless and able to use the law to defeat rivals. You cannot set up Amazon or Paypal without the 'permission' ie co-operation of the elite - the big banks, the billionaires. You need the co-operation of the elite & they on;ly give it to their own types.
'Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the word, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed upon the world, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned...'
Better to stomach an intolerable reality than to live a literal hell on earth that could wind up to WW3 with nuclear weapons. I think everyone feels deeply saddened for what is happening in Ukraine but we really must find a peaceful end. It sickens me that people living lavish lifestyles who are losing nothing feel the need to bang the wardrum seemingly wanting us to enter into WW3. Its a tough situation no matter what. 2022.... not what I imagined it would be.
very few ppl want a war. The only thing with the position you state would be, if Putin sees that we will always stomach an intolerable reality and back off (given that at present the US has turned down the MIGs. air cover wont happen and the most we are doing is sanctions) where does that stop. Putin invades Moldova. Then threatens Sweden and Finland. If the absolute requirement is to avoid WW3 at any cost, then if he then decides to say I want Poland and everywhere east of Elbe out of NATO, is that agreed to? And if refused then invades Poland etc? The problem with Putin is that he has moved into Hitler territory - "The Fuhrer offers guarantees" - "Experience has shown that Herr Hitler's guarantees, guarantee nothing"
@@loveukraineloverussians2535 You make a very good point and im not sure I have any answers. The line in the sand has to be any nato member state but as bad as things are, the whole world is done for if a true WW3 breaks out. There is no coming back from nuclear fallout. Its fucked I hate the position we find ourselves in. No easy answers at all.
@@petrolhead88uk71 i dony think anyone except the reckless or those who who are out to 'shove it up the West' think there are easy answers. A complete immediate surrender is not going to happen nor would it save save lives in quite the way imagined, When i said that many people would be in danger for being pro-Western incl those working for NGOs and civil society groups working on corruption issues, the reply of someone who was supporting Stop the War in UK was basically not far of the Assange reply on what happens to Western agents after Wikileaks, albeit a slightly more polite pov, of effectively 'well anti corruption campaigners etc are in danger everywhere, down to them to get out'. Given what happened in Chechnya, i think it would be naive to think they would just be told off and then let go
Is their any way to clarify the claim that Zelensky has $1.3 billion in an offshore account according to the Panama Papers. If this is the case then surely the entire narrative surrounding this war changes completely.
Thank you Mr Hitchens for mentioning that 'in many cases the French fought like hell in 1940'. My father was one of them and he was also one of the resistance fighters at the liberation of Paris in August 1944.
Thank God for people of this calibre in public life. We live in fascinating, if ominous times. An expanded and deepened understanding is a valuable thing.
I could listen to Peter for days. I miss his brother terribly, too. Two insightful men, often at odds with one another, who could hold a cracking, honest, good faith debate. PH should be a regular (if he wants it) on GB News.
Christopher probably would be agitating for this war
@@bryonedwards8522 wtf??
Chris was more entertaining and probably a better debater, but Peter strikes me as a much wiser and more thoughtful man.
I feel so silly I've worked on construction all my life, left school at 13. I'm 60 now and never realised that Christopher and Peter are brother's. Damn feel silly
@@patkearney9320 Ironically you probably have learnt more by skipping college and possessing a useful trade and life experience than the blue haired alphabet people with 2 PhDs.
You are a good and Intelligent man Peter. Stay strong brother.
Didn't you mean, "Stay strong, comrade."
@@arealamericanamerican3204 OK...
@@arealamericanamerican3204 Do you know anything about Peter Hitchens? I fear your juvenile retort quite missed it's mark and found the wrong brother. Christopher God Bless him has since departed.
@@HitTheBricks89 Christopher was a staunch atheist. God bless him.
@@johnnycharisma162 Yes I'm aware but I am not. Any reason you chose to point out Christopher's stance on Religion to me ? Along with liking a drink and enjoying a debate I'd have thought it perhaps the most common knowledge. Well done though.
Peter Hitchens is superb commentator one of the very few who is worthwhile listening to .
Imagine if his brother Christopher was still around. Miss his commentary on everything!
@@Glisten45 What the Polemic Propagandist Jacobin Trotskyist
You have rose coloured glasses
I regret the years I spent pillorying him and venerating Christopher.
Indeed. Putin was created by the labour party. All leftwingers should be put in the stocks as its clear that only conservatives are Morally correct in everything they do! Wake up mate. The wrong brother died if cancer, plain + simple!!
He said Putin wouldn't invade
Good to hear a thoughtful discussion rather than the usual hysterical calls for NATO intervention and WW3.
Don’t think Russia will be in the dark though. Looks like Europe will be seeing as we rely on Russia for so much oil and gas. Have you seen Kyiv and all the fake check points and burnt out vehicles. Zero damaged buildings. The fake news around this is insane.
The West of Europe should of reached out to Russia decades ago. But America will never let Germany and Russia come together which would be great for European Civilisation. America wants complete domination of Europe. It will be American driven Globalisation particularly open borders mass immigration that destroys European Civilisation not Christian Russia.
Also the West should not of backed the coup against the ELECTED government of Ukraine 8 years ago that started this nightmare. This bloody war has been going on for 8 bloody years with 14,000 people died BEFORE last week.
Russia has been slow to act, America would of acted after 8 hours if this was Canada.
Nato has been surrounding Russia for decades and using Ukraine to destabilise Russia. Even backing the ruthless NeoNazi group AZOV BATTALION. Please Google AZOV BATTALION.
Exactly 👍
Exactly
Let me echo the many sentiments expressed in the comments on this brilliant in this conversation.
Most of my own generation lack the patience, open-mindedness and nuance to even bother entertaining a discussion this important/valuable. An utter tragedy.
as uttered in this interview, ' the binary response' from people...its dangerous...
@Bart Garvin Indeed, they actually let each other finish their points.
I wish we had more independent thinkers like Hitchens on the TV.
Instead we get BBC propaganda bots.
Just dont watch the bbc propergander
In this new world of "my truth", Hitch, like David Starkey, can only get a gig on GB News now.
@@stevenmoore3130 yes u wonder y is it because they say things that dont fit in to la la land of the Liberal elite view of thinking
About time an alt right media outlet stood up against its Russia bot propagandist commentators. The same mob that has Sewen distrust in Western democracies over the past 5 years it so obvious they are Quizlings or paid stooges.
The kind of intelligent analysis that’s disappeared from the Western mainstream media.
True. You won't hear from the media in any country in the West that the Ukraine should remain a neutral buffer state after this invasion is finished, and not be enticed into NATO or the EU. Nor should it be aligned with Russia, of course. The Ukraine should trade with the whole world on its own terms, attract foreign investment and fight its own endemic corruption levels.
Smashed it again, Colin. I love this series.They need to be collated in one place so they can be easily found for repeat listening.
A wonderful news man. A real revelation since joining GB News! Never miss his afternoon show!
They should be brought out on a DVD box set.
I can't add to the eloquence of this conversation, but thank you for having it.
Right up to the moment he brings god into it as the reason that we act appropriately…
@@thecarpetman7687 I must admit, I was a huge admirer of his brother Christopher, who's reasoning was far more sound, in my opinion.
I like listening to Peter Hitchens. He is so honest about everything, he does not care what you think about him. Brave man !
@Dan I think he reached a point where notoriety isn't of any concern to him anymore. He's 70. The old country he knew growing up is dead. He does not care anymore. He will speak his mind freely. Bless him !
Just because he is honest, it dos not mean he is right.
Obs: Not saying either way, just that honest is only s staying line in a conversation
@Anya Wale what lie is he living ? i find that idea interesting. He seems pretty damn honest to me
@Anya Wale if you are some sort of bot, you are badly programmed.
@Anya Wale that's a bit better!
I have watched many interviews with Peter Hitchens, I believe this is one of the best. There was no confrontation, no pride and no desire to have a "gotcha" moment from Colin Brazier. Peter Hitchens is an immensely intelligent man who is maligned and deliberately misunderstood by many. This interview allowed him to show his true humanity. I believe GB News is a breath of fresh air and I also believe that Mr Hitchens should be given a regular slot on this great channel.
A really good listen. Great to hear Hitch. Full marks to Colin for his patience with the old grump.
Full marks to Peter for having as much patience as he did,must get tiresome after awhile! 🤔
Scale of 10, 2 pts.to Peter, 6 to Colin.
The listener has to put up with extensive stutterrings from Hitchen to get a tiny understanding of what the heck he is trying to say.
Very, very incomplete interview. Blinking waste of time.
One of the best discussions I have ever listened to. Thank you so much - Peter Hitchens is someone I like and admire and he talks such sense !!
And yet women and children are still dying.
@@brianbassett4379 Are you saying men did not ?
@@tinaforbes1059 Marshall your ponies Tina, I'm saying that humans are being slaughtered and everyone around the world including Mr. Hitchens is more concerned with how it will affect their money, property, lifestyle, and holdings than doing the right thing. Mr. Brazier is nothing but a bought and paid for talking head that actually benefits from tragedy around the world, always offering an opinion (someone's) for money... that's his job. A little baby sociopathic war profiteer, just like all profit-driven news media spewing 24/7 owner-directed opinion and perspective around the world. If you want to sit back and be a sycophant to someone Tina you should look to those that are doing more than talking. Stay safe.
Meanwhile the Labour party cannot define what is a woman. She can and I can.
The West becomes weaker and easier to divide and conquer in these troubling times when we can't state the obvious.
Simply great interview. Peter Hitchens, great journalist.
but a coward!
Except he got it completely wrong on the invasion.... literally days before Russia invaded Ukraine Peter said it would never happen. He says statements which such conviction everyone thinks he's always right...
@@alexy8520 he looked hung over.. but he is superb.. camudgeon.. performer.. hypocrite.. without conviction.. coward..
@@alexy8520 You need to find a new fortune teller.
Hitchens and Starkey are shining lights of intelligent, educated Brits.
Shame Hitchens takes 20 years to make his point though.
They can get things wrong though. Hitchens said Putin would not invade Ukraine. He said he would have to be mad or insane. Following that up with he did not think Putin was mad or insane. So what does he think now? I have always said that Putin would invade , but in the South to join Crimea with the separatist regions... I was wrong too! Being right in part is still not right.
@@thetruth6417 Well that's because anyone that points out NATO/EUs failed strategy before doing so, for leftwing audience members you need to first say ''Putin bad Putin bad Putin? Putin bad! Putin. Putin.'' You need to say that about 60 times in a row so that the leftwing Labour voter types don't think you're condoning Russia by pointing out the failures of the West.
@@greyvoice7949 Well he may of thought that Zenesky would of been open to discussion on the Donbas region where predominately 14000 civilians had been killed by an aggressive Ukrainian army with a strong element of neo Nazi AVOX battalion. Who were constantly receiving more powerfull armament from America. Zelensky was told to back of by the far right party that actually got him voted in from his TV comedy programme of a teacher seeking peace.
@@onlyme8117 As a rule I would say 'there are no experts'. We found that with Covid and even now we see people still believing what 'experts' said despite it now appearing they were so far away from the truth you may as well asked a child for the response to Covid.
However , in the matter of will Russia invade Ukraine (back then) , Putin was the one true expert... He said he was not going to though... But then he would hardly tell everyone the plan!
Peter seems genuinely and deeply saddened by these events. Difficult to watch but superb as ever.
He seems very resigned in many of his interviews now.hope he is okay
@Anya Wale As am I. I'm showing compasssion for a fellow human being, whose demeanour has lately shown resignnation and dejection.There is a world of shit coming to the west financially, within a few months. Cannot give in to resentment and bitternesss, as they will consume you. Have to be positive and try to remain optimistiic
@Anya Wale You are watching a video, with somebody being interviewed, which I commented on. What makes you think I am not compassionate to the Ukrainians.very strange comments? Why don't you show some compassion for the Ukrainians?
@Anya Wale Try reading my comment properly, instead of standing on your high horse.I am compassionate to the Ukrainians, but that doesn't mean I can't have compassion for others, Also. Wearing your delusion did you read "I am not worried"? Looks like you're a hater, just looking to project and from your problems onto others.if you have nothing nice tto say, don't say anything.
@Anya Wale - you have introduced a complete red herring into the discussion. Go and do your moralising elsewhere.
There needs to be more of this and less hysteria.
Deep thought from our leaders? Or the MSM? Don't see that happening! We all know Leaders are to blame , but then Boris is in deep trouble when people realise he is responsible for everything of late that has happened in the UK and how he is making US pay for it... 'Peoples Government' is laughable unless you put the word RICH at the start!
When you’re trying to drum up support for a war you gotta act fast while you got the masses scared and hysterical.
I whole heartedly agree but we must do something about those gawd damn Russian cats!!!
They need 'our' hysteria to perpetuate their agenda(s)
Full of intellectual flaws in the assessment of the current situation, for example Ukraine could become like Libya. Discounting the fact that the tribal, political and cultural underpinning of Libya is entirely different. Whilst declaring intellectual certainty about the invasion after the event of invasion. People are constantly predicting outcomes and are often wrong. Equally people are constantly predicting outcomes that prove to be correct. It does not necessarily prove that an alternative outcome wasn't equally possible. Certitude is vanity. There is no rigour in this discussion as there is no exploration of an alternative negative outcome if NATO had not allowed defenceless smaller nations to join at their request. You could argue the situation now is because of the lack of inclusion in NATO not the expansion of NATO. The comment supporting Russia post USSR is also much more complex than Hitchens would have us believe. He calls for more complexity in thinking when it suits him and less rigour when it doesn't.
Absolutely brilliant. I'm so pleased Colin Brazier has broken free of Rupert Murdoch's shackles at Sky News and can conduct interviews of this quality with intelligent and thought provoking discussion. Peter Hitchens as always is brilliant. Can GB News give him a permanent slot. You'll see your ratings go up for sure.
Total agreement with hitchens. He should be listened to.
He's honest, from the heart and well balanced and thoughtful.
I totally agree,I only he spoke louder and evenly, I'm sure more people would listen to him.
Wow. What a calm, balanced discussion without hidden agenda or fear.
It is pretty shallow. It is a usual disclaimer of not supporting Putin, claiming the West made some mistakes, instead of stating clearly that the West, the US first, actually wanted a proxy confrontation with Russia. That is the policy of the West, not a minor misunderstanding
@@gdiwolverinemale2745 They still have a political correctness that they must follow otherwise the woketards will complain to Ofcom and the channel will get cancelled.
The woke leftys were not the aggressors. You could argue the alt right ultra nationalist fascist minority didn't help and gave the anti woke alt right ex commie Putin, self appointed leader, a feeble excuse as he is scared of democracy.
Very good interview. Great to see Peter Hitchens given more airtime
So true! Two excellent minds here, middle-aged white men who have no role on the Bolshevik Broadcasting Corp!
@IonCrox he’s on Talk Radio every Monday morning with Mike Graham. Has been for a few years
Colin Brazier's interviewing skills are impressive, indeed.
When he talks of Bercow, he explains that he doesn’t agree with his ideas, nor finds him likeable - and yet he goes on to recognize his strengths and achievements.
That’s why we are drawn to Hitchens, truth and objectivity and despite being a truly great man, he doesn’t lord it over anyone. A true modern English gentleman.
Colin is such a great interviewer
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Absolutely loved this. It’s wonderful when a discussion makes you think rather than telling you what to think. I’d love it if GB news grew more in this direction. More, please - and thanks.
It is proper discussion no click-bait just a discussion we're you can say I disagree without interruption of your statement and troglodyte guests screaming your racist.
@Anya Wale 🤡
I love Peter's statement regarding optimism. My grandfather endorsed and instilled the same perspective. A pessimistic man relies on the rationale of reality. An optimists is a fool, and is prone to being blind sided by reality.
I wish I had realised this earlier. Despite a modicum of success in my life, I can’t help feeling that sometimes false optimism held me back and encouraged avoidable mistakes.
@@niguel4438 though pessimism can often become cynicism which robs people of joy and makes them unpleasant people to live with and have interaction with
Accurate observation is often called cynicism by those whom don’t possess it…
@@Bellissimovolere and sometimes viewing everyone as potentially corrupt and out to rip you off just poisons people's world view..dont give to charity, ignore beggars as they might be con artists, do nothing for free, never help the police, ignore someone in the street on the pavement. A cynical pov would have seen the Parable of the Good Samaritan in a different light
@Anya Wale where did i say i was ok with people being killed? I worked in Kyiv. You said elsewhere why didnt i go there and i said i didnt agree with it nor with Russophobia. Are you Russian btw as Anya is Russian but Wale is not. I am Welsh btw. Van Pallandt is a Dutch historical figure
Get this man his own show!
Nice to hear, more calm less war. There’s ALWAYS two sides to a story
Funny how it's always the dictators who have "no option" but to invade their neighbours and try to steal their territory. Saddam Hussain claimed he had "no option" but to invade Kuwait. Hitler said the same about Poland, Norway, the Netherlands and Russia. Now Putin is saying it about Ukraine.
@@AdmiralBonetoPick Basically power, money go hand in hand . It's been going on for years /since year zero .
It's easy for Hitchens to opine from the sidelines. But he doesn't have to take any actual decisions.
@@hmq9052 And?
He is a smart man 👍
Hes a lunatic gb news keeps trying to start world war 3
@@jeremysmith8035 - you sound like the kind of bosh-vomiting halfwit who throws his myriad stray cats at passing children . . .
Absolutely brilliant discussion from PH and CB. This kind of discourse has become my meat and drink from a variety of sources. So too often these days, these choices are limited by the MSM’s complete lack of sensible, articulate discussion. Instead, we are furnished with an inarticulate jeremiad of complete babble.
Good post, and what is depressing is that 'educated' ppl these days fail to even realise how dire is the output from the MSM, where all they do is sing in unison about whatever is the latest MSM line to push. Then they push it and no proper discussion is allowed - and, unbelievably, MOST PPL CANNOT SEE WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS BLOCKING OF DEBATE. The ppl cannot see that they are being manipulated. They are still pampered & wealthy (except for those who need the NHS) but they might change their thinking when our wealth collapses (soon).
For anyone interested, I would suggest looking for Peter's articles from back in the 2010s about the Russia-Ukraine issues, Crimea, etc. A decade, and more, passed and his writings seem almost prophetic
I enjoyed this podcast more of this would be nice GB news, Colin a very cool presenter and Peter some one I could listen to all day 👍from me
Hitchens is very listenable. He's one of the few people in the media that has helped me change my mind with his persuasive arguments.
What a shock to see an interviewer on whom Peter Hitchens is not wasted. Brilliant.
The Russian people and culture are not our enemy. Play Tchaikovsky Symphony No 2 or read the Brothers Karamazov and still feel the Russians are our enemy.
Said the Ukrainian diabetic whose run out of insulin after his city has been raised to the ground.
Very worthwhile listen.colin is a superb interviewer.
Very interesting discussion - enjoyed it. Both are more expert than I but wholeheartedly agree that media hysteria is turning this into extreme anti-Russian sentiment (banning authors /composers/ sports stars /cats !) and will if anything lead to great problems in the future (if is one). Western leaders are selective over which tyrants they wish to challenge. There needs to be a peace broker found quickly and Russia will need to feel it gets something out of it or the suffering (& risks) will increase.
When the well being of an entire sovereign democratic nation is in grave danger, and under the worst attack that the world has seen since WW2, if a particular sanction has even the slightest possibility of making a difference, then it should be enacted without hesitation. - This is why I don’t have much sympathy for banned Russian athletes.
@@Make_Boxing_Great_Again Calm your jets. Its your type of irrational hysteria that will lead us all into WW3.
@@Make_Boxing_Great_Again Ummm, the worst attack since WW2? What a complete & ridiculous overstatement. Ever heard of the US invasion of Iraq & Afghanistan?
@@Make_Boxing_Great_Again Peculiar how Ukraine has suddenly become a 'free democracy' overnight, while their application to the EU has been denied on multiple occasions on account extreme corruption. Wonder how long it'll be before they declare Yemen a fellow 'democratic nation'
@@vladivanov5500 corruption is different to freedom and democracy - Italy has been free and democratic since 1945 but very corrupt. Or are you saying that Italy is under a one party tyranny?
A wonderful interview between two articulate and thoughtful people. Rare as hens' teeth.
Thankyou gentlemen for a great interview
One of the few genuine journalists.
Superb, thank you.
Intelligent conversation for once. Much better than the social media scaremongering ie- " what would happen if a nuclear missile hit london".
You would all die. It only matters to you when you think you might have some skin in the games? Women and children are dying to POS.
Who care ? We'll all be in happyland anyway. No war, arguments , politicians etc . RIP .
Everything would turn to ash; ashes to ashes, dust to dust, RIP.
The Fascist Putin wouldn't nuke London , why on earth would he destroy what he owns and uses to launder his dirty money ?
@@Paul-md8de Because he doesn't plan on making it out alive and wants to spread it around some? I understand you're making a funny Paul, but don't underestimate the insane.
With all the positive comments about Peter Hitchens I would like to compliment Colin Brazier on his masterful interviewing technique.
Colin's always quietly brilliant
Colin is superbly professional. Engaging too.
Love how the interviewer tries to get Peter into being all snobby and pretentious about MacDonald's but he shoots it down and says how much he enjoyed his Big Mac! Top man.
Thank you Peter! ... I hoping your voice and others will rise and be heard more broadly!
I totally agree with you about the peace plan, Colin Brazier. If Zelensky had agreed to these, to my mind not unreasonable demands, weeks ago none of these deaths would have occurred. Ukraine has no choice but to accede to the demands to abide by previous agreements anyway.
Are you a Puti apologist!
What everyone is forgetting though before the invasion that one of Russias initial demands was for all US troops to be removed from Europe, that was never going to happen. Russia INTENDED to go to war by putting clearly impossible requests. The US would never have left Europe while russia were amassing 100k troops on Europe's border.
@@alanmarr3323 are you a n az I apologist
Not been following events have we. Also you can not possibly see things from the Ukrainian point of view. Nor can I.
You need to know what Putin wrote about the Soviet Union to at least have any semblance of an idea. What is really happening and what people are saying are two very different things...
Russian Foreign Minister was on yesterday saying there was no war in Ukraine... We all see it as a war , but don't say that in Russia. It is a 'special operation' according to them.
Do you seriously believe that Putin would settle for Crimea alone? He doesn't want or need peace. Why is he supporting Assad in Syria?
Peter seems heart broken. It must be tough for a man of his age to live through so much progress and then see it flushed away in an instant.
@hognoxious no, Russia's actions. The topic of the interview.
We've been seeing the progress made in the 90s - dissolution of the USSR and Warsaw Pact and the end of the Cold War - steadily been eroded since the late 90s by NATO expansionism.
Bravo GB News
Hitchens is definitely a go to man on this subject matter.
If GBN only employed Colin and Nigel that would be good enough for me, Two men who have lived life and understand the real world. Great Podcast.
Not like Benjamin Butterworth then? hahaha
@@galleon1968 Definitely not Andy 😉 The calibre of some of the other presenters leaves a lot to be desired
Dont forget hitchens and starkey!
@@galleon1968 that guy can jump in a lake and not return. I'd like Neil Oliver added to the list also.
@@d.jparer5184 Fair comment
Always interesting. I loved that they talk like real people, not BBC or Westminster style of waffle.
One of the best bits about GB news is that I get to see clips of both PH and Neil Oliver. I cannot imagine any Australian media organisation doing anything like this.
Now confirmed that a Russian State News Agency, RIA Novosti, paid the Daily Telegraph to run Kremlin friendly & pro Brexit stories in the newspaper for a fee of 10,000 million Euros - sounds like Fox News would do the same
@@jeremysmith8035 Old news. The Guardian ran that story 7 years ago. The Telegraph's partnership contract with the Russians ran out in 2017 when they were paying them £40,000 per month to distribute Russia Beyond the Headlines supplements in its paper. Big deal.
Don't waste your time it's just a bot.
@@piggypiggypig1746 absolultly and its merely co-incidental that gb news and the tory party simulatiously started some nonesense about feminism as the news started reporting more and more about russian connections to the dear leader and gb news is owned by a russian spy though the legartum institute
@@piggypiggypig1746 i live in madrid because our company moved here along with several hundred others to have access to the single market which your trade secetary says is vital for uk trade, iknow when i am being bullshited and leaving the single market was another step towards isolating the uk from world markets leaving the dear leader waving his arms about pretending to sell food and only food to countries which dont want or need it because they make their own cheaper at home, 7.5 grand it cost for the dear leader to commit treason
You can tell hitchens is genuinely upset about what's happened.. It is an awful situation.
because he has been through it and seen the impact of those tensions .. you would think western leaders would also remember but apparently not.
Great interview. I really like Colin Braziers style and I prostrate myself at the feet of the greater Hitchens brother, as always.
I do not think some of the fools know what WW3 would mean to them .
I don't think the price of fuel and bread would be much of a worry.
Good to see GB News attempt to dip into truth again: give more people like Peter a platform to speak about what's really going on in Ukraine and I may subscribe again. Until then I'll just dip in every now and again to see what Neil Oliver has to say.
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Yup. Shocked me. I hoped for better.
with respect, does Peter Hutchins speak Russian or Ukrainian? Has he been to the country much? How does he know more about what is really going on than many others?
@@robinmorritt7493 Me, too. I had high hopes for GB News - very disappointing to see them prove themselves to be no different to the rest of msm when it came down to it.
@@loveukraineloverussians2535 I just saw your comment now. I can't answer for Peter Hitchens - I can only answer for myself. I've been following the conflict in Ukraine since 2014 and people are being lied to wholesale about it by msm: I though GB News would be different - they aren't.
" they don't need to ban books, nobody reads anymore" Dry wit at it's best.
They have Facebook now, and do not care about literature.
Awesome discussion, Colin. P Hitchens is always a pleasure. Hugely enjoyable writer, in the truest sense of the word. Please make this a regular TV segment.
Would like to hear Peter’s opinion on Net Zero.
He was a close friend of Christopher Booker he thinks it’s nonsense but won’t speak out because he just gets hysterical responses. CB’s book global warming a case study in groupthink is brilliant and explains the whole scam and more importantly how they did it
@@neilhowarth7171 Can't be groupthink and a scam. Mutually exclusive.
@@TheSpoovy How so? There are examples through history of just such.
@@TheSpoovy the group think explains why so many otherwise intelligent people go along with something so obviously dodgy look at lockdowns. Read the book it answers many questions that I had. I actually think Maurice Strong a now dead corrupt Canadian billionaire politician who is behind this scare was a evil genius
Good to hear 2 grown ups speak
Another great conversation. Keep up the good work.
Thank you GBNews for having great content like this thoughtful commentary and allowing Americans access to this. We need GBNews content and information desperately.
We also need to stop being reliant on China to manufacture our goods. Those businesses that farmed their work to China should be ashamed, they’ve put big profits above all else. And we should boycott those businesses wherever possible. Much of what we buy is far from essential.
This here is an excellent example of how we in the west are the indirect architects of most of the shit in this world. Slavery in China exists to meet the indulgent demands of western consumerism.
Survival rather than big profits. When competing businesses start the process there is no choice but to follow.
@@Celticowl4136 Step forward Germany, with their biggest BMW manufacturering company outside Europe , is in China . Shenyang, Liaoning province.
@@tinaforbes1059 the Germans are hypocrites who place gas above human lives.
Couldnt agree more. We have given too much of what we used to be experts in, to China. Priced our own expertise out of our hands.
Always appreciate Peter's point of view on most things, i always feel i have a far more well rounded view on things after listening or reading His writings, even when i do not always agree with Him. Thank you Peter :)
Colin Brazier is an exceptional host.
Great interview. Love PH
the Russophobia is a choice of the West - ie. America. It is not desired by the Russians. I think it is important to recognise the bigger economic picture which extends beyond Ukraine.
If only Russian aggression wasn’t real. Positioning politicians on British lands, hacking America’s oil pipelines. Hacking the government with solar winds
When do you condemn Russian aggression?
A great Interview with Colin and Peter. Very interesting, in my humble opinion, Peter would make a great ambassador for the UK in Russia, though he may disagree with me. I like the fact that Peter emphasis how important it is to listen, and have two sides to the media Story, and communication between us and Russia.
Re Navitism, when I go the Italy, I want to meet real Italians, the same in Japan, China Russia Gemany Norway Spain, etc etc. If we are all the same itsnot very interesting.
The distress within Peter is palpable, this is a fair sign of the current situation and it's impact on all those involved
I think they came round and took his cat.
Fabulous discussion. More please !
Enormous good sense from Peter Hitchens as always. He is one of the very few commentators who knows anything about anything.
Peter Hitchens once again coherent, cognitive, informed, intelligent logical conversation.
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until he talks about God...
@@blue24563 I tend to agree with you David, on that point, PH always has many excellent observations, but the one area , I disagree with him is the God point, but hey that’s his belief , I also understand Colin Brazier is also a Devout catholic😊🏴☠️
The way that Peter describes the history of Russia and the missed opportunity to change it during the 90’s feels like one of the greatest missed opportunities in human history. Imagine Russia becoming a more open, affluent and free country like the the Western world. Opportunity lost. 😔
We sent them bad advice. The worst possible advice.
That alienated the Russians.
Everything since has driven the Russians into a never ending cycle of paranoia.
'a more open, affluent and free country like the Western world...' 🤣🤣😂- see Trudeau, Ardern, Sturgeon, Biden, Macron, party-gate, net zero hypocrisy, £5million per day spend on illegal migrants while UK veterans live on the streets and OAPs struggle, Covid so-called conspiracy theorists (who turn out to be 99% correct as proven by CBC, ONS...) - that's your 'Western world'
@@scottpeter5704 true, but that’s still pretty tame by Russia and China’s standards.
America would never allow an independent nuclear power to develop if it can prevent it. America will cling to its dream of maintaining unipolar hegemony as long as it possibly can, which won't be much longer
It's worth reading Brzezinski's works on the US geostrategy regarding Eurasia from 1997. If the US wanted to stay the only global superpower in the long term, then even what remained of the post-Soviet Russia had to be further dismantled. It was Putin who was able to stop it. Brzezinski wrote: "In these circumstances, Russia's first priority should be to modernize itself rather than to engage in a futile effort to regain its status as a global power. Given the country's size and diversity, a decentralized political system and free-market economics would be most likely to unleash the creative potential of the Russian people and Russia's vast natural resources. A loosely confederated Russia -- composed of a European Russia, a Siberian Republic, and a Far Eastern Republic -- would also find it easier to cultivate closer economic relations with its neighbors. Each of the confederated entitles would be able to tap its local creative potential, stifled for centuries by Moscow's heavy bureaucratic hand. In turn, a decentralized Russia would be less susceptible to imperial mobilization."
It's also interesting what he wrote about the role of Ukraine in his book, The Grand Chessboard :, “Ukraine, a new and important space on the Eurasian chessboard, is a geopolitical pivot because its very existence as an independent country helps to transform Russia. Without Ukraine, Russia ceases to be a Eurasian empire.”
“However, if Moscow regains control over Ukraine, with its 52 million people and major resources as well as access to the Black Sea, Russia automatically again regains the wherewithal to become a powerful imperial state, spanning Europe and Asia.”
I like Colin ... he listens, let's his interviewee talk - and is a fount of knowledge in his own right.
Excellent
Brilliant as always
As Peter Hitchens has often said, the Ukraine's neutrality was doing fine until western politicians turned up in Kiev encouraging the crowd to depose a government they had democratically elected because it had signed a finance package with Russia.
I think Peter is being a bit selective. The Ukrainian parliament overwhelmingly voted to proceed with a trade agreement with the EU and Yankovich decided to do a deal with the Ruskies. That's what set off the mass protests and ultimately led to him being kicked out.
@@TheLowerIntestine True, but the western politicians turning up is not good. They should not be there at all.
I have meat Ukrainians on both sides of the political spectrum, there is both a pro Russian and a pro western camp.
It is not as black and white as you put it.
@@navylaks2 Exactly, which is why after this invasion is finished, the Ukraine should remain a neutral buffer state and should not be enticed into NATO or the EU. Nor should it be aligned with Russia of course. The Ukraine should trade with the whole world on its own terms, attract foreign investment and fight its own endemic corruption levels.
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You could argue the same for a potential united Korea, if that ever was to happen, one day.
I think Stephen F Cohen put it best, there needs to be a federal Ukraine similar to the Bundes Republic of Germany
Brazier is a massive asset for GB News and Hitchens is a proper, thoroughly respectable journalist of the type we need many more of
Get Peter on more please!
Love your takes Peter.
Brilliant interview!
Top notch conversation, gents!
Thank you very much... ☝️😎
Funny how the lives of Libyans, Iraqis , Syrians meant nothing.
If they actually wanted peace, like the Ukrainians had and want now...they could have it - maybe you should tell the religious factions of Islam about your concerns. Let us know how you make out...I'll wait.
why is this always being braught up it was heavily contested here .. everybody acts as if people were cheering with joy on the streets MOST people dont want war or bombs etc its the select few who are never in the conflict who make the choices...
@@shadowdawg04 Lol you are brainwashed about Russia as you are about middle east wars and you hold two entirely different opinions simultaneously.
Its called cognitive dissonance.
We invade someone... thats justified. they should have just surrendered. (1 million dead over 20 yers)
Someone you dont like invades someone, in this instance Russia... REEEEE war criminal.. illegal war! (fewer than 20,000 dead so far). etc...
Also some irony that the Russians are bombing the rebels in Syria and Assad used chemical weapons, many Iraqis didnt and dont support the resistance groups, Libya is divided anyway
He looks, and sounds . . . _especially_ depressed this time. One cannot blame the chap.
I thought that too.
And so many feign concern .....
Of course, he knows that his paymaster Putin is on his way out and that it may take more years that he has left for a new to appear in Moscow! When you are about to lose a substantial part of your income you will be depressed.
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@@tombrunila2695 Don't be ridiculous.
Very informative and interesting. My two daughters, both in their early 20's do read, however. So all is not lost. As for Ukraine, Russia and the West's involvement, whilst I have great sympathy with Ukrainian citizens, it's no more than I have for Afghanis, Syrians, Yemene's, Libyans, Iraqi's etc etc. The mainstream media isn't flying their flags as they were fleeing our bullets and intervention, rather than Putins.
Their plight is no less worrying.
The same news media organs that enthusiastically enjoyed the invasion of Iraq, is now demanding support for the invaded in Ukraine.
The Arab World will never take the Western media seriously ever agaín. Good for them. They are wiser without all the nonsense.
Unfortunately not enough have figured it out here.
The Ukraine should remain a neutral buffer state and should not be enticed into NATO or into the EU. Nor should it be aligned with Russia. The Ukraine should trade with the whole world on its own terms, attract foreign investment and fight its own endemic corruption levels.
Honestly all the former Warsaw Pact states and ex-Soviet Republics in Europe, which joined NATO (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Czechia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria) and I'd even venture to suggest former Yugoslav states which joined NATO (Slovenia, Croatia, Montenegro, Macedonia) should never have joined NATO which really in terms of it's original raison d'etre became obsolete when the USSR/WP was disbanded. Like you I think they should have become buffer states and if needs be in a third non-NATO alliance so that they would have had a mutual defence policy, and even which other NATO states in Western Europe could have joined by leaving NATO and thus no longer being under US influence. However that is I suppose a utopian vision which would have meant the US giving up it's military power in Europe, it's had bases in Western Europe since the end of WW2 and I don't suppose it wanted to give them up.
@@simonh6371 Quite right. It's very long-term US policy to use europeans as a springboard into Russia. NATO and the EU are the instruments which serve that aim, which did not end in 1989-91.
@@susannamarker2582 I'd never thought about that and didn't know it went so deep. I knew that the US was keen to get a foothold in Europe post WW2 and to be the next global power as the British Empire declined. But I'd always seen NATO as a necessary counterbalance and defensive block against the USSR and Warsaw Pact. However I recently checked up and found out that NATO was actually formed before the WP.
@@simonh6371 Our allies the USA made sure the british empire declined. First, they got us into such debt with lend-lease during the war and then in 1946, they lent us 3bn Dollars instead of the 8bn Dollars we needed. That's why India went independent a year later, and Ireland saw its chance and proclaimed a republic in 1948. That's why during the 50s, the Royal Navy struck 800 vessels off the Navy list.
@@susannamarker2582 We only finished paying them back for the WW2 loan in 2007 I believe. Also I remember reading somewhere that one of the conditions for assistance in WW2 was Eisenhower (I think) demanding that the UK promise to dismantle it's empire after the war.
When I see the Zelensky puppet, I think of what Jeremy Irons said in his episode of WDYTYA : 'I'm an actor. I don't know much about anything.'
Zelensky puppet?
The problem with this discussion, like most of the media, they are fixated on the /Actors/ NOT the /Directors/ and /writers/. It's the later ones, which create the need for wars.
The Iraq war was extremely popular in the US. I think something like 90% supported it. I was vocal against it and got banned from many sites for being so. Guessing the same percentage applies today with support for Ukraine with few of these people understanding what came before the invasion. People need to look up 2014 Ukraine and Victoria Nuland.
If you were against the invasion of Iraq then you should be against the invasion of Ukraine, surely? No country should have their sovereignty violated, even if they are ruled by dictators with a disdain for human rights.
Spot on, Robert. I also recommend the 2019 Oliver Stone documentary, Revealing Ukraine. It really connected a lot of dots for me. It left me feeling totally disgusted regarding our (the US) involvement in 2014 coup. All the same characters are in it.
@@rewdwarf123 Yeah, but Putin's reasons are NOT bullshit like Bush's were for invading Iraq. The Russians have genuine concerns about what's going on in Ukraine, like their building up arms, missiles, plans to join NATO, attacks on the Donbas region by the Ukrainian military, weapons labs, threats continually coming from Ukraine and US politicians, the overthrow of a democratically elected govt by the US in 2014....should I go on? They took their complaints to the parties involved and continued to be ignored.
I quite agree .. Putin is ruthless but this hysteria ramped up by Biden is over the top !! I guess it has become personal... Democrats still raging the Hilary Clinton had her emails hacked.
@@hagbard72 And that's a reason for unleashing death and destruction? And I used to think the First World War started for a trivial reason...
I was such a huge fan of his brother Christopher, except for his stance on Iraq, and in their adversarial debates found Peter to be not only the inferior mind but someone I would never agree with. Yet here we are and I find Peter one of only a few voices that makes any sense. Its very much a strange, perhaps obscene reality that the right is now the left and the left the right and the centre has completely vanished.
Globalisation destroyed the nation state democracy and politics is up in the air.
The right became the left when the places where billionaires are made (big business, state grants) were taken over by the left, as in such businesses the corrupt and ruthless are favoured - Microsoft for example came out on top being the most ruthless and able to use the law to defeat rivals. You cannot set up Amazon or Paypal without the 'permission' ie co-operation of the elite - the big banks, the billionaires. You need the co-operation of the elite & they on;ly give it to their own types.
'Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the word,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed upon the world, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned...'
They certainly covered some ground there. I don't always agree with Peter Hitchens, but I do always find him interesting to listen to.
I'm so thankful we have Peter Hitchens.
I luv Colins work
Better to stomach an intolerable reality than to live a literal hell on earth that could wind up to WW3 with nuclear weapons. I think everyone feels deeply saddened for what is happening in Ukraine but we really must find a peaceful end. It sickens me that people living lavish lifestyles who are losing nothing feel the need to bang the wardrum seemingly wanting us to enter into WW3. Its a tough situation no matter what. 2022.... not what I imagined it would be.
Hear hear👏👏
very few ppl want a war. The only thing with the position you state would be, if Putin sees that we will always stomach an intolerable reality and back off (given that at present the US has turned down the MIGs. air cover wont happen and the most we are doing is sanctions) where does that stop. Putin invades Moldova. Then threatens Sweden and Finland. If the absolute requirement is to avoid WW3 at any cost, then if he then decides to say I want Poland and everywhere east of Elbe out of NATO, is that agreed to? And if refused then invades Poland etc? The problem with Putin is that he has moved into Hitler territory - "The Fuhrer offers guarantees" - "Experience has shown that Herr Hitler's guarantees, guarantee nothing"
@@loveukraineloverussians2535 You make a very good point and im not sure I have any answers. The line in the sand has to be any nato member state but as bad as things are, the whole world is done for if a true WW3 breaks out. There is no coming back from nuclear fallout. Its fucked I hate the position we find ourselves in. No easy answers at all.
@@petrolhead88uk71 i dony think anyone except the reckless or those who who are out to 'shove it up the West' think there are easy answers. A complete immediate surrender is not going to happen nor would it save save lives in quite the way imagined, When i said that many people would be in danger for being pro-Western incl those working for NGOs and civil society groups working on corruption issues, the reply of someone who was supporting Stop the War in UK was basically not far of the Assange reply on what happens to Western agents after Wikileaks, albeit a slightly more polite pov, of effectively 'well anti corruption campaigners etc are in danger everywhere, down to them to get out'. Given what happened in Chechnya, i think it would be naive to think they would just be told off and then let go
Is their any way to clarify the claim that Zelensky has $1.3 billion in an offshore account according to the Panama Papers. If this is the case then surely the entire narrative surrounding this war changes completely.
Most politicians have their money in off shores accounts anyway . So as business people and the riches.
This conflict has been an eye opener to the blinkered state media of each western country. And the challenge to have freedom of information and speech
Thank you Mr Hitchens for mentioning that 'in many cases the French fought like hell in 1940'. My father was one of them and he was also one of the resistance fighters at the liberation of Paris in August 1944.
One of the major enablers of the 'Miracle of Dunkirk' was the defence of Lille by the French Third Army which was all but wiped out in the process.
God bless to your father and all those with whom he fought 👍
The french gave in quicker than the italians
Thank God for people of this calibre in public life. We live in fascinating, if ominous times. An expanded and deepened understanding is a valuable thing.
Oh how much I love this glorious man :D
Like a modern day western Guru. Such a clever man. I could listen to him all day.