Panasonic 10-25mm F1.7 ASPH Review with Panasonic G9
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- Panasonic Leica 10-25mm F1.7 ASPH Review with Panasonic G9
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I completely missed the *MANUAL FOCUS CLUTCH* on this lens, please just skip 2:39 - 3:11 part of this video. It has great mechanical focusing. I'm very sorry about that :(
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Haha, I was thinking, 'doesn't this lens have a manual focus clutch? Maybe the prerelease version didn't have it?'
You also mentioned "clickless aperture". I believe this lens has an option to turn that on or off. So it can be clicked OR de-clicked through camera settings. It was a Panasonic rep that told me this, so perhaps it's a production firmware option added later?
No, there is no such option.
Actually, your review is the only one indicating that switching between af and mf can be done from the body. This is especially important if you e.g. want to have the lens in mf to avoid unexpected focus changes during a video recording, but want to switch to af briefly if needed, eg by half-pressing the shutter during the video recording. So i assume such a scenario is also possible with this lens?
Does the aperture ring and manual clutch work on an Olympus or Blackmagic body? Thanks!
If Panasonic/Leica continue to release lenses like these, the MFT system will be around for a very long time. Great review.
Thank you, I hope that they will do so.
Absolutely! The Nocticron is by the far the most incredible lens I've ever used on any systems. This is gonna be a great addition to that! Way to go Panasonic!
@@imranvp I was able to get a Nocticron last year for $600 on craigslist! Awesome lens...
Compare the Lumix 25mm F1.7, Leica 12-60mm @ 25mm and this lens 10-25 F1.7 at the same 25mm to see the differences. Great review btw, I always look forward to your reviews.
I've watched this review a dozen times since you first posted it, and kept telling myself, "It's too big! It's too expensive!" And it arrives tomorrow. If my wife finds out - I'm blaming you. ;)
A zoom with constant f/1.7 is unheard of. And I LOVE this type of manual focusing, like on Olympus pro lenses This 10-25 is one of those that are expensive and you know why.
What? This is MFT format lens though, also Sigma 18-35mm F1.8 ART for APS-C
Serioulsy? Umm, try Sigma 50-100 F/1.8, or the 18-35 f/1.8? Hmmm 🤔🙄
Thanks for a superb review! After thinking really long and hard, I finally got this to replace my much loved Olympus 12-40mm. I know this is bigger, but boy it's so versatile and suits my needs for primarily indoor shooting. And the photos it takes, is just beautiful, with a certain "magical" quality - reminds me of the Voigtlanders. Initially I thought it would be silly for me to get such a big and heavy lens, until I tried it on. What sold me was how light this lens was! Once I felt the (relative) light weight, I thought this lens will be on my Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mk3 permanently! I call it "The Prime Zoom" lens :) thanks again for your review.
Panasonic is sending some love to micro 4/3ds users! That lens looks fantastic my friend! great video.
Thank you, I hope that they will continue to so.
Your reviews are great! Practical, realistic, and useful. Thank you!
Thank you, I appreciate your feedback!
He is the best as far as I'm concerned. Helps that he lives in my favorite city too and I get to see the area all the time while he is reviewing!
I need to save money. If I buy this one it would be a lens that I would use 95 % of the time.
So would I, it is extremely versatile.
The Hybrid Shooter would you consider yourself primararly a photographer or a videographer?
Neither, I'm just camera reviewer.
It'd probably pay for itself in the long run!
@@TheHybridShooter "Neither, I'm just camera reviewer." Well, that's the most honest answer I have ever seen from a TH-camr.
I just demoed this lens at my local camera store and I'll say it matched and possibly exceeded my expectations! Everything you said was spot on. Incredibly impressive. The images I got were just gorgeous. Even within the store. I think it's a wide to medium zoom Nocticron. It took every fiber of my being to put it down and walk away. I hope to purchase mine later this month or next. Keep up the great work!
Did my own comparisons with Oly 17mm and 25mm 1.2 primes with the 10-25. I set the Pany at the 17 and 25 focal lengths and set all lenses at f1.8 - using a Oly M1X. The Pany hangs in pretty close to the primes for sharpness. All had good edge sharpness of course.
Thanks for the best video on TH-cam for this lens! I actually ordered it yesterday and have been watching many video reviews on it. Yours is the best. Thanks again for taking the time to help everyone!
You're welcome, I'm glad that it was helpful!
I agree, the reviews of the Hybrid Shooter and Gordon Laing are the best.
I really want this for my G9 but I will have to wait for the price to come down. If it drops to $1200 like the 100-400mm then I will pull the trigger. Great lens but just a little too pricey for me at $1800. Thanks for the great review as always.
I'm not sure if it will ever come that low, it is a niche lens at that price unfortunately, but it is still worth the money.
Camera Ray , I don’t think it will ever come that low , maybe $1600 after a year or two , it’s a very good less that replaces lot of Leica primes
@@fosiko123 The 100-400mm started at $1800 and I bought it two years later new for $1150. It might be possible.
Camera Ray damn !!!!! You got 100-400 for $1150 , that’s a good deal, can I have one 😆, you right friend, you just never know , I will have to wait myself to buy it if I decide, it’s definitely a lot of money for $1800
Interesting, I do think this lens is worth the money, but maybe waiting a little bit won't hurt.
thx for the info.
I thought this lens had a manual focus clutch for true linear control?
It would be unusual for you to miss that kind of detail so I'll wait a while.
Looks to be great option though.
Thanks for another fine video.
Yes, it does, I completely missed that.
Unique zoom lenses is THE strongest side of MFT! I switched from FF to MFT in 2024, bought some top zooms (and one regular) and got a system that gives BETTER results then my previous FF system with mediocre lenses (line 24-105/4 shown here). I am not using this lens though, I preferred Oly's 8-25mm/4, but I am hunting for Pana 25-50/1.7 on used market, it is a very rare lens to be sold used...
Isn't there a focus clutch which makes the focus ring linear?
Yes, it does, I dompletely miss that.
Looks like I won't be getting the Sigma 18-35, thanks to this new lens! I'M EXCITED TO GET ONE!
I can't think anyone who has said anything less than stellar things about this lens.
The sharpness is unbelievable. I downloaded sample RAW images of a production model used with a G9 and was blown away by not only the color rendering, but sharpness. Unbelievable I was looking at images this sharp from a zoom lens.
f1.7 is a lifesaver. I do lots of indoor event photography and at f/2.8, you are really struggling to get a good shot without a flash. This lens solves that problem. Easy. The number of 'keepers' just quadrupled.
I've never been this excited about a lens. With all the other features of this lens, especially the video-friendliness of it, this may be the best, versatile lens out there. I hope to have mine in September.
One little request.... How about having affiliate links with B&H Photo? I live close by there and browse a lot. Would love to buy some of my gear through your links if possible. Want to help support the great work you do!
Yes, it is indeed very impressive lens, well worth ti IMO.
B&H affiliate is a bit difficult to set-up for non-US companies, but don't worry about that, but thank you anyways!
Big fan of your channel, so I’m a Barber and I’m looking to buy a camera to take photos of my work and on occasion do some street photography. Do you have any recommendations on the Fuji line I should get like camera and lens? Or point and shoot from Fuji? Money isn’t the issue I just want to buy something that will fit my needs.
Both X-T3 and X-T30 are very good cameras, I can generally recommend those. Regarding the lenses, I can't help you much there, I haven't tested too many Fuji lenses, but if the money isn't issue 56mm F1.2 will be the best portrait lens and of the two 23mm lenses will be good for street photography.
The Hybrid Shooter thank you so much for the reply, if you had to choose a point and shoot what would that be?
I would appreciate to see some tests in low light.
specially ab the AF
if it maintains the consistence
tsk for the usual nice videos
Thank you for another top informative video. Would this lens be usable with a G80 or only really meant for higher spec Panasonic bodies?
It is usable with G80 of course, but you probably want GH5 to fully utilize capabilities of this lens.
Great review on this and much appreciated. Am thinking about picking this lens up right now and wanted some good insights into its performance for that price. You did that in spades. Thank you.
You're welcome, I'm glad that it was useful.
Thanks for another great video! Quick question: how is the distortion on the wide end in video when moving around? Is there any noticeable wobbling towards the edges like I've noticed on the Panasonic 7-14?
You're welcome! in-camera corrections are not ready, I will have to wait for final FW to judge the distortion.
Thanks for this review. Looking at the pictures; is it just me or is the colours quite muted and dull with this lens or is it the camera? No experience myself with M4/3.
You're welcome, it is the weather. I only had it for a weak and it was very cloudy.
Would you consider obtaining an Olympus body of some sort, take your pick, to review how Panasonic lens work on the Olympus system? Thanks. Great review.
Thank you, I'm not considering that, I already have more cameras than I should.
How significant is the 2mm difference at the wide end between the 10-25 and the 8-18? Trying to decide trade off between low light and wider. I have only budget for one at the moment and need to be using them equally indoors as well as for landscapes.
Very significant, it is completely different look.
I just pick up for myself a Leica 10-25mm F1.7 for my GH5 but I noticed it is not parfocal like the one you tested. Is there anyway to adjust or get it more parfocal? Do you think I got a bad lens?
Make sure that you have the latest FW installed in both lens and camera.
@@TheHybridShooter how can i update the firmware for the lens?
Which machine and what lens do you use for your videos? The images are super sharp and defined.
I uses Sony A7 III and Sony FE 24mm F1.4 GM for video and Panasonic S1 + 24-105 for still pictures of this lens.
I'm surprised the bokeh looks that good on a micro 4 3rds tbh
So am I. Especially with that focal range.
I'm impressed.
I already own the 8-18mm and the 12-60mm Panasonic Leica lenses. I love them both, especially the 12-60mm is a great lens if you think of the minimum distance of only 23cm. I was able to buy both of them for almost 20% less of the price of the 10-25mm... Please make a comparison between the 8-18 and/or the 12-60mm, but to my mind it can`t be so much better that it is worth to spend another 1999 EUR. For street fotography the 10-25 seems just to big for me. The 12-60mm has way more zoom range at half the size and it is having IOS and F2.8 to F4 is not that bad. And the pictures are also really sharp...
Unfortunately, I only had this lens for a couple of days, so I was not able to make any comparisons.
I also prefer the 12-60mm Leica, I tested the 10-25mm, nice image rendering but it was too big and with a noisy AF for the price.
This might be the one lens I can use with the G9 for everyday photos and vlogging! What do you think about the size and weight for vlog-style shooting? I tried the Olympus 7-14 F2.8 pro lens and it was too heavy, but I found myself using 10mm to vlog. So, in theory, this would work well for what I do, but the 10-25 is heavier and longer than the Olympus I mentioned. Thoughts?
I probably wouldn't use that one for vlogging it is too big for that, Panasonic 8-18 will be more suitable for that.
Hey, quick question: I own a GH5 and the 12-25mm f2.8 lens. That lens supports Dual I.S., but the 10-25mm doesn't, as you mentioned. I also use a couple vintage lenses, which are completely manual, and when I turn on my GH5, the camera has me manually put in the focal length so that it can stabilize the sensor accordingly. The difficulty comes when using manual zooms - if I set the focal length to 100mm for my 100-300mm lens, then zoom in past 100mm, the sensor starts warping the image, and if I want to use the 200mm or 300mm length, I've gotta turn the camera off and then on again and reset the focal length.
So my question is, because this is an electronic lens, does it communicate its current focal length automatically to the camera so that the sensor stabilization doesn't get messed up?
Yes, it does.
I'm wondering, more than 4 years after the review - are there any new similar lens having better performance? Looking to buy soon and an advice of what to purchase would be highly appreciated :-)
Not really, more affordable full frame options have basically killed this kind of "sensor size compensation" lenses. It has proven to be a dead end.
Hi Man! I need your advice! I own a Lumix G70H with a 14 - 140 OIS2 lens, but I want some upgrade. What would you buy first, a G9 or this lens?
(I like your accent, what is your motherlanguage slovakian, hungarian?)
Does the aperture ring work on Olympus bodies? Excellent video by the way.
Thank you, I unfortunately don't have Olympus camera, so I can't tell you that.
I actually had a physical reaction when you didn't start with "Hello my friends" :)
Thanks great review. I was looking at this lens to go with the new Olympus OM1.
How would you say this compares to the 8-18 in terms of image quality?
I haven't had a chance to compare those two, but I would say that the sharpness is similar.
Awesome review again! I enjoy it everytime. This lens is too good and also native. Maybe I will sell my Sigma 18-35 next year and get this one 🙏🏽😊🔝
Wow! 10-25 on a Panasonic G9, just what I'm looking for! Could you also do a vlog test? I'm thinking maybe use this as my main vlogging set-up...
I unfortunately can't. It is probably too big for vlogging, 8-18 will be more suitable for that.
The Hybrid Shooter Thanks for the reply! Will the 12-60 be okay for vlogging? I know 8-18 is wider but sometimes I need the close-up shots...
That is difficult to answer depends on what is wide enough for you.
Amazing review man. Can't wait to get mine in a few weeks!
Thank you!
Do you ever review Olympus bodies or lenses? Any plans to do so in the future?
No, I have never reviewed any Olympus gear and I have no intention to do so in the future.
Hm, I didn't know it wasn't internal zoomig...
Anyway, great review, except the missing focus clutch part :)
Now Panasonic needs to make a 40-100mm f/1.7 brother of this lens and we're good! Let's go Panasonic!
Longer version would be very nice indeed.
VS42.5-75mmF1.7 would be the way to go as it could be smaller than the Sigma 50-100mmF1.8 and cover the salient framings.
It wouldn't fit in a standard camera bag with a camera attached if it was fully internal focusing
YES!!!! Thank you for this!
You're welcome!
is this lens focal length will replace the FF lens like canon 16-35mm and 24-70mm? may I know why you preferred this focal length over the FF 24-70?
No, it is just 20-50mm, not 16-70mm. No particular reason, just personal preference.
How does the image quality compare to the Sigma primes? For example the 16mm 1.4
I haven't tested those on M43, so I don't know.
how would you compare this with sigma 18-35 in terms of price to value ?
thanks for the vid!
IT is not really possible to compare those bemuse of the different functionality and different FOV.
@@TheHybridShooter definitely agree with this
I am normally a prime shooter, most of the time using 15,20 and 25mm.. This lens however may not replace any prime due to size and weight, but may be additional lens in the situation where I need to use multiple FLs.. But the size and price of 1025/1.7 cross the boundary to FF zooms in f2.8 and f4..
Could you pls compare this lens to other m43, like 1260/2.8-4 and 1235/2.8, and to FF zoom like, say Tamron/Sony 2875/2.8 or other FF 2470/4 lens too.. It would be highly appreciated and make your channel content very unique..
Unfortunately, I only had this lens for one week, so I wasn't able to make a comparison, but I will do so if I ever get a change again.
I don't know why I'm now considering selling my Sig 18-35mm + Meta bones, Sig 16mm, Laowa 7.5mm.
Would that really be wise?
That is difficult to say, It probably would replace those for most use cases, but it depends of your preference.
@@MrNoipe I do agree. I can't wait to see someone thoroughly test these lens for the GH5. Only a matter of time. If by some dumb chance somehow Lecia makes a better lens, it might be worth* getting that lens over the Sig.
*but not if you have the Sig already. Very expensive upgrade at the end of the day...
But I will still lust for this lens especially if they come out with a 25-60(?)mm f1.7 too make it a set. That combo could easily be a new standard for m43 shooters.
@@TheHybridShooter Do you have the Sig?
@@MrNoipe I have owned that combo. It has very bad focus issues and I could never rely on it. I feel sure this will be a much better choice if you need auto-focus.
Keep the Laowa, ditch the rest.
have you done vlogging with these lens?
No, I am not a vlooger.
Great review - as always!
Thank you!
How well does the 8-18mm compare to the 10-25mm especially in lens flare?
I haven't tested flare resistance on either, but I haven't noticed any issues.
lol dude you completely missed the manual focussing part...I would reupload this video to be honest as you missed to mention one of the main and most useful option that is seperating this lens from other MFT lenses...not a good stand for a review channel. Please don't get this as harsh critic. Just a friendly advice. I love this channel
I wore that in the top comment, unfortunately, sad part of gear reviews is that I only had this lens for 4 days alongside the S1 and other stuff, and I am not able to reshooth it, so the options are to remove the video completely or leave it as it is...
@@TheHybridShooter oh well...leave it like it is I guess. Or re-edit the video and put a written description on the manuel focus clutch in it...with black backround or stock images.. love ya!
Thanks a lot for your work
Very nice review! I have two questions regarding this lens as I consider getting it for my GH5S.
1. Do you have to set it or GH5S up somehow to make it AF continously reliably? I watched Gelard Undone's review and it presented terrible C-AF performance in videos and worked very well in photos. Then someone commented that had problems on GH5 but no problem on G9 and said it may be due to 2.5 firmware on GH5. What are your experiences in that regard?
2. I want to mount it on my Moza Air 2 gimbal with GH5S with grip and semi cage. I guess Moza Air 2 will handle it easily (as for my arms I am not so sure). But I want to as about balancing as the lens protrudes while zooming. Usually one wants to balance zoom in the middle of focal length. But since it is a bit longer at 10mm, shortens to its minimum at 13mm, and then it dradually protrudes through 17mm and further, could I simply balance it at 10mm? What are your experiences in that regard?
AF is generally OK on GH5S with default settings. More important are area settings. 1-area or custom settings are much more reliable. I probably wouldn't you Panasonic AF for something that will be shown in cinema, but it is not bad.
Balancing at 10mm is fine.
@@TheHybridShooter OK... Then is the clutched focus ring appropriate to be used with mechanical follow focus like Olympus 12-40 or 7-14? Assuming that on Moza Air 2
@@przybylskipawel It is better than 12-40 or 7-14. AF is fine on gimbal though.
@@TheHybridShooter Thanks a lot! I already have Olys but they are not as bright. After all it will all depend on the price, as I always buy second hand :D
@@TheHybridShooter I had this lens and the AF/CAF is very good, the Sigma is far worse. Don't trust too much Gerald Undone, a lot of his reviews are a bit suspicious. However, the Focus motor is a bit noisy, unlike the 12-60mm Leica. For me, it was a deal breaker.
Do you think handling this lens on G9 body would be much better than on GH5?
Not really, it is very similar.
Hi! If I want to use this lens with GH5S on Moza Air 2, how should I mount focus motor rod? Facing right up, right down, left up or left down?
Unfortunately, I don't know. It should be explained in the manual.
Great Review!!
Will happily trade in my nocticron for this!
Another very fair and balanced review. I handled one of these several months ago. It was as large as I expected, but like you, what really surprised me was how light it was. I suppose I’d gone to it with experience of using the Sigma+ speed booster you refer to (although I thought that combo was f1.2 equiv? Usefully faster than this lens).
The Sigma is a good bit larger and feels an awful lot heavier. Great combo and very sharp, but the AF is really twitchy, especially wide open. That’s a combination of factors that has got me contemplating acquiring the Panasonic somewhere down the line, even if it is only equivalent to f3.4 in FF terms. I thought it interesting to hear a Panasonic guy conceding that (he actually said f3.5 underplaying it a fraction). But there again they now need to highlight the benefits of their S series.
As a fan of both low light and subject isolation, the combination of a fast short zoom and the mind bogglingly good IBIS in the G9 has got me to stick with the mft format as my main system a while longer.
They could probably make faster zoom if it wasn't ultra-wide on wide end. Sigma with speedbooster is F2.4 equivalent. It is far from what you can do with F1.4 full frame lenses, M43 is not the most suitable system for that.
The Hybrid Shooter
Yes of course - it’s only f1.2 in comparison to the 10-25’s f1.7. F2.4 for overall light and DoF profile compared with the 35mm format sensors. The fastest (manual) native lens I own is f0.95, which is still only f1.9 equivalent.
But for my own practical purposes IBIS can make up for some low light deficiency and for subject isolation the ‘gap’ is at shorter focal lengths (usually indoors) for people shots. The exotic glass on the larger formats gives ultra-compression, which can be nice, but isn’t an essential. Besides which at a certain point it needs judging very precisely to get a necessarily very precise focus point. Add to that you tend to lose more sharpness and with a reflex camera make sure your lens is accurately calibrated - not an issue with mirror less.
I find for instance that for a tight portrait, something like the 45 f1.8 (90/f3.6 equiv) is more than adequate to focus on eyes -fully open you’re getting a decent amount of blur by the ears...
this is the final hoorah for m43..cant wait to get a g9 then gh5s
It's not the final hoorah. See the Olympus lens roadmap. Many exciting new lenses coming up.
LexTNeville I meant from Panasonic
@@A1Bokeh GH6 is coming
@@malageb1 dang.... idk if ill be able to afford that lol
How well does this lens perform on the G9ii with the PDAF?
No idea.
another great vid my friend!
Thank you!
Is there any alternative to that lens in FF systems? I mean very fast zoom with constant apeture, that starts around 20mm equiv. and ends at around nifty-fifty? I need a lens to film a choir in dimly lit interiors. It turned out that for rectilinear lens I cannot go below 20mm equiv. as faces at the edges become stretched to much, so anything wider makes it a waste of glass. However 24mm is not wide enough in many tight spaces. Also sometimes it necessary to zoom in to well over 35mm when you have to shoot say from a balcony or focus on a soloist. It also has to be perfectly sharp edge to edge. I am looking everywhere and cannot find anything like that. Am I missing something? It could be F4 FF if used with dual ISO camera, but I guess I simply cannot afford such a body, so I am wondering wether I should not stick with my GH5S and jus buy this lens.
Not really, this focal range is quite unique. There is 20-60mm kit lens for L-mount, but I haven't tested it much.
@@TheHybridShooter But it is slow and not constant apeture. If only it was constant f4 at least.
omg! you MUST turn on the automated captions, it is hilarious!!! a french man in china!
(good review as always. but realy, the captions are pure unintentional genious)
Thank you, they are turned on , but it doesn't work on every video.
@@TheHybridShooter I know and your English is very clear, it must be a TH-cam bug due to your native language. Still pure comedy gold
@@TheHybridShooter fyi, you can explicitly specify the video language of a video you uploaded. I would guess TH-cam uses that to interpret the spoken language to generate the subtitles from. Now it probably guessed the language incorectly to be Dutch as that was the only language it offered. You may have a bit of an accent, but it is certainly not Dutch and not any worse than the accent most Americans have 😉
magnificent lens huge price tag, hopefully a much cheaper G Vario model will be released in not to distant future 👍
There definitely won’t be cheaper version of this lens.
Hybrid, what happened to "Hello my friends.." ? 😥
"Hello my friends" is on a vacation.
@@TheHybridShooter 👍🏼
Please compare it with the good old 17-40L that costs $500.
I don't have that lens.
Non nonsense review, outstanding my good man, outstanding!
Thank you!
My next lens!
I had once gH4,than I sold it, now I love to read and watch videos about GH5 (and micro4/3 )-it is perfect for really a lot of people-main for VIDEO and I would also love it for these things: codecs, slow-mo etc, and so I was 100X thinking to buy GH5 ,cause it all really missing on my sony A6300 and FF A7RII and I HATE (and feel really helpless these days) for Sony brand for its marketing to video codecs!!!I Sony A7RIV the same poor 8-bit codecs, and no 4K50/60p etc -really SHAME in 2019!!!etcetec. BUT on the other side once I was trying Sony Aps-c and than FF cameras (huge DR even on aps-c A6300-BIG different vs GH5, Noise at higher ISO , DOF , lens E-mount ecosystem is these days finally quite good -f.e. really video zoom lenses with zoom stick etc, AF etc) there is no way to get back to micro4/3 for me....and I must say this lens is also proof of this for me, sorry...Because on first look it( and many lenses of micro4/3 is the same case ) seems great but than try to think f.e. of this lens 1.expensive - even for Sony !!!;-) and also 2.not light (it is one aspect of reason of micro4/3 format isnt it?!)and 3.gives you only 1.7X 2crop so only 3.4 depth-of-field for THIS price!, which isnt really great at all, it is for me personally unacceptable, sorry, my opinion...But thanks for your video(s), they are perfect!
It just isn't for you in that case, GH5 and GH5S still have a lot of advantages, it is a matter of preference.
Here it is 😏 so bad no 12-35 1.4, the real fast lens .. More near to 24-70 2.8 dof on FullFrame not like the Pana 12-35 2.8 🤔
this lens looks perfect for bmpcc4k
It does, especially with that MF clutch that didn't show in the video.
Parádny lens, dobre review
Ďakujem!
Great travel lens %) On my last trip to UK many times 24mm was not enough, had to use panoramas shots
It is a bit too heavy for travelling though.
@@TheHybridShooter not for FF user ;)
@@log0log Most of my full frame setups are significantly smaller than this.
Have tried this next to PL 12mm f1.4?
No, I haven't.
Is it too weird to use with GX9 ?
This lens would replace atleast two lenses. The range is also perfect. I just need the money now haha.
They say that it should replace 5 lenses.
Superb review 👍👍👍
Thank you!
This is huge! A full team lens with same specs is the same size!
There is no full frame lens with the same “specs” so you can’t know that.
@@TheHybridShooter this is essentially a 20-50 2.8 in FF equiualency. You can find many 2.8 FF that are close to this range. Looks at Sony 16-35 2.8 for example. There are more. At this point MFT is no longer about compacteness. Look at all the new gear For MFT , it gets bigger every year. If you want to stay small, don't rely on the new stuff. If you don't care about size, which I'm assuming you don't, might as well get a Fuji or FF system. Fuji is just as small/big as MFT at this point.
@Juan Alvarado I don't consider 16-35 to be close to that range at all, there is a huge difference between 20-50 and 16-35.
High-end M43 gear is not supposed to smaller than *equivalent* FF gear, that is a misconception. It is supposed provide different advantages such as the superior stabilization or better video specs such as full sensor 4K 60p. This lens is also parfocal, it has minimal focus breathing and mechanical focus clutch, which increases the size as well. As I have said, there is no FF equivalent to this lens.
Hello my friends ?
Better than 8-18mm LEICA for G9 ?
Those are different types of lenses.
Is it weather sealed?
As I have said the video, yes, it is.
This lens cost about $2700 here in Australia.
They are crazy
Thanks for sharing
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
It's quite big!!! Compare with FF format, it is just a 20-50mm f3.4 lens. So, in my opinion, going with FF format would be a better choice.
First of all, there is no 20-50mm F3.4 FF lens for comparison and the size is definitely not the only thing that should be considered.
@@TheHybridShooter I will go with A7III with 16-35mm f2.8 GM for sure. It is non sense to go with a huge big lens like that to get only micro 4/3 image quality!!!
Those are not comparable lenses and you should probably do more research.
@@TheHybridShooter No need. I just select one that it's right for me, man_:)
OK, but comparing it to this one still makes no sense.
This is a perfect lens. The only problem it has is the price!
And the noisy AF ...
If we have PDAF MFT would truely be unbeatable. Who cares if its mft. There is so much to like about mft.
I don't really think that we need PDAF, the AF is IMO good enough on G9, GH5 and GH5S.
@@TheHybridShooter u right they improve so much AF, I don't know why people argue still for AF in Pana
@@TheHybridShooter for videography focusing is terrible. Yes for stills
Not anymore.
@@eicarshiva was terrible 5 years ago, maybe it's not the best but is very good and single focus point I think is fastest what I ever seen
All I fucking want is a [around] 18-100mm F1.7 lens. is that so hard to make...
That focal range doesn't make any sense on M43 and yes, it would be extremely difficult to make.
good review
Thank you!
I like the design but the size and lack of lenses in the future causes me to switch to crop sensor Fuji
Who told you about lack lenses in the future ?
Anyway Panasonic have lenses what's covers all needs include Oly
Have you not seen Olympus lens roadmap? Many exciting new lenses coming up.
Fuji gfx cameras even better 😏
Will it work with the g 85?
Yes it will, it's the same mount.
It will, but you probably want GH5 / G9 / GH5S to fully utilize the potential of this lens.
Thanks guys
You missed the focus clutch mechanism.
Yes, I wrote that in the pinned comment.
I loved it until I saw its price :(
Not for amateurs or enthusiast though :(
It is suitable for both amateurs and professionals, they just need to have budget for it.
my only wish was that it had OIS !!!
Why is that? The chances that people who buy this lens have a G9 or Gh5 which both have great IBIS is great. GH5S users use gimbals anyway. So where is the point of including lens stabilization?
@@maxshean2607 If you ever tried IBIS & Lens Stabilistion combined, you realize it basically replaces the Gimbal, especially if you add Stabilisation in Post. Some people got used to that, so thats why. Still a great lens.
@@maxshean2607 yeah i have gh5 myself and using dual IS lenses as I mostly shoot handheld., love the dual IS system !!!
Dual IS is great, probably my most favorite feature on Panasonic cameras, but it can't replace a gimbal. Gimbal can do much more than just stabilize the footage. I talked about that in Osmo Pocket vs Osmo Action video.
Alright, the lens is impressive, ale Krteček je zlatej hřeb videa :D
Děkuju!
Compare this with sigma 18-35 + speedbooster
I don't have that lens anymore, but I have talked about that in this video.
I reckon the sigma would still be brighter and provide shallower dof but can't match the native in term of autofocus speed and accuracy. The native is also slightly wider as well.
He did duh
@@jd_99 i want to know more detail like he did on the 12-35 vs 12-60. I've been using the sigma 18-35 setup and i'd like to know is it worth to replace it with this new 10-25
@@mufathur4 If you value silken aperture transitions, silken focus tracking, sealing, 20mm FOV, swift AF, and more dextrous handling then the VS10-25mmF1.7 has a great advantage, yet if you are happy to put in more effort, adjustment, postproduction and concentration, and stay tighter than 26mm FOV then the ART18-35mmF1.8 is more accessible and very high-performing.
One lens to rule them all.
Could be.
...a chrobák je v hlave..........super review, ostatne ako vždy...
Ďakujem pekne!
is 10mm good for real estate?
Yes, it is.
You may will need something a bit wider for small rooms/bathrooms. This + the Laowa 7.5mm would do the trick.
@@chriswitzgall ya i was actually thinking of getting the 8-18 cuz the 10-25 is a bit pricey for me now
@@A1Bokeh I would think if real estate was your goal, either the 8-18 or the 7-14 from either mfg would be the best. If real estate was my #1 use, I would opt for one of the 7-14 lenses.
@@chriswitzgall why the 7-14 over the 8-18?