Advaita, Christianity, and Religious Sentiments
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There is no particular linkage that has been established by neuro scientists between brain activity which generates Conciousnes in Brain.... It is also there speculation that brain creates conciousnes, may be based on subjective experience and Logic but not based on objective Scientific research... it is still work in progress.... On the other hand Shankya & Yoga philosophy claimed that there r Two Fundamental elements which r uncreated and there characteristics r as follows -
1. Prakriti - Always in Flux ( Moveing & constantly changing) , Can also be termed as Matter or Energy
2. Purusha - Conciousnes ( Witness, passive & satatic/ unchanging) Also known as Atman in Vedanta philosophy
When These two interacted with each other then this universe of various Forms & Name is created.... The purush or Conciousnes is static & passive principal which only witness/ Observe prakriti. When observed the prakriti itself start creating Various Forms & Norms.....
No God is essential/ Fundamental to Universe to exist...
Very similar to above concept The above phenomenon of observation is affecting the matter to take a definite shape & path.......is also noticed in Double slit Experiment.... Which scientists have no Plausible explanation....
Further....As per Patanjali Yoga no need to believe in God .... Eight progressive steps r prescribed , which will finally make us realized that thoughts , dreams emotions ... Mental imagination , self talk, Day dreaming.... All these stuff r object to the conciousnes and conciousnes is the real subject( Atman/Purush)..... But because we r not able to differentiate between the real subject and object( prakriti/ Thoughts, Emotions) .... And when a Yogi reached at Eighth step ie. Samadhi this distinction between Subject & object is crystal clear.... The conciousnes is revealed as it is.....ie. without thoughts, imagination & Emotions.
Religion is better than communism though, we need liberty and quality of life
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Welcome to the club kid. It's gonna be easier with online communities for you to find a safe space. Not so much when I started being rational.
@@godlessparticle Thanks
Love your guidelines too. Great going Vimoh.
This was such an overwhelming experience to see you explain everything with calm😅😅I need to learn alot from you.
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Hi Vimoh today we visited cellular jail at Port Blair,Andaman and watched the light sound show. I was amazed shocked surprised to hear the show speaking so highly about “Veer Savakar” and his contribution to the freedom struggle.
Wasn’t he the one who wrote multiple mercy pleas when at cellular jail?
Esko monthly pension bhi miltee the,multiple mercy pleas likhi the or khud ki book se khudko Veer declare kar diya tha 😂😂😂
So says some worthless sellout who wouldn't be able to survive one night in that jail 😂😂
@@humanityfirst1417 We can call him veer now for he managed to make so many people believe he was veer. That's another kind of veer-ful act.
Satyam jha deserves a shoutout in your next stream for his huge amount of superchat.😂
Great idea. Let's make it a competition. Who sends the most superchats in a stream 😂
That Christian boy needs urgent reasoning classes.
Yes but vimoh and ur ilk probably need it too
@@lakshyavarshney9942not really it's you and that person
@@fictionsolosanyverseyounam7599 why? What about liberty? I didn't watch the full video but still overdevelopment is worse than underdevelopment imo democracy must exist you all need it, look at no aesthetic infra etc development, culture of maids and drivers etc
@@lakshyavarshney9942You're right, everyone could use reasoning classes because we csn always strive to be more reasonable. But the main comment implies he needs it severely conveying urgency.
This is how you reason things, so just floating an idea for you as well, get hold of some reasoning lessons yourself
Please add time stamps
Actually, as per Adwaita in sleep also consciousness remains in the background.
Even in deep sleep too.
There is whole logic behing this.
Its really very difficult to understand it completely.
Some people understand but very few, e.g. there is in one Swami I know of named as Swami Sarvapriyananda he is currently the best speaker in this regard.
He spoke once with Sam Harris (topic was mostly Tibetean Buddhism),
Donald Hoffman and Bernardo Kastrup.
Vimog you might really like him.
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Yes he is the rockstar philosopher Swami....
acharya prashant is better with regards to advait vedanta !
I understand Jacob's perspective, it's very easy to fall into that rabbit hole. But it's not conclusive. Agnostic atheist is probably the most rational position at this point.
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Bro infinite regression will also come in play na if we assume if there's a creator then who created the creator, isn't it ?
Not if God is understood as being uncreated and non-physical.
If something that is uncreated how it came to be in existence ? and if its non - physical then how it can interact with the physical world ?
These are all just word play and assumptions
@@malicemischievous3753 It did not. It can interact with the physical world the same we minds can control bodies.
It's a perspective. Assumptions can exist in many beliefs. I am not really arguing for this position at the moment. I was only trying to provide the answer that I think most theists would give.
May you have a great day, friend!
@@MrPeaceGuy54 the word non physical doesn't exist in our physical world, if we can assume god to be uncreated why not just leave ourselves one step and call the universe uncreated then we don't even need good
while we sleep , brain do still function,, EEG produces different waves in different periods of sleeps,,,electroencephalogram produces different waves during sleep ,prove brain works during sleep
It is well within leading digital rights for people to withdraw consent for publishing their content or their identity on public platforms after it has been published btw. Asking for consent at the beginning when they join is the right move, but following it up with "you won't ask me to remove your face later right" is not nice and will not be accepted as permanent consent.
Regarding Advaita debate : I am a lucid dreamer. I can try be conscious in the dream if I want to. And there is ton of scientific literature to support this. So dreaming/ Rapid Eye Momentary stage of sleep cant be generalized as being unconscious for all(humans). So the difference between the advaitic and scientific viewpoints are due to misalignment in defining 'consciousness'. I think we have a long way to go, to prove or disprove anything both of you talking about.
It's not called dream if you're aware bro
If humans were like this (what we are today) on 1st day itself then we can say that we were created, but we are not. We evolved from single cell to what we see today. The DNA is also complex because of evolution.
Ironically, Kerala has the most Atheists.
Blesson Jacob Sunil.
And that boy is stuck in the watch maker fallacy
The viewpoint of most religions is anthropocentric. Those who truly believe in them also end up believing in a creator and offer nuggets like only an intelligent creator could've created something amazing (?) like humanity. What they cannot properly explain is ( as their religious forebears also didn't know) what's the point of the rest of life, especially microbial life ( makes sense in an evolutionary model), as why did the big G make things which serve no purpose and can often be harmful to G's chosen people ( rudimentary explanations of diseases notwithstanding).
Vimoh, do you believe that adopting a vegan lifestyle is a moral obligation? If not, I'd be interested in debating this with you.
you choosing a weak topic.. you will be next jacob if u come to.debate
@@bsnsbsmsb5233 No worries, I'm well-prepared for it. I've familiarise myself with all potential arguments and have compiled a list of counterarguments backed by data from peer-reviewed research papers. However, I later discovered that he also supports veganism.
@@bsnsbsmsb5233 Animal slaughter is the biggest ongoing holocaust in the history...how can say it is a weak topic???
@@himanshusingh6988 its the natural way how nature made us ans we evolved but still we cant change our evolutionary diet much.. i accept factory farming is bad.. but meat is not good for humans or immoral thats not right... factory farming should be ban and everyone should eat less meat.. but it has nothing to do with morality... nature has been and always will be cruel to some extent.. we can see it in nayure itself
plus even science accept that meat has all the aminos in right amount and vegan diet has to work harder to get all of it.. so you can what nature has arranged for us
@@bsnsbsmsb5233 There are indeed disturbing occurrences in nature, such as instances of violence or predation. However, justifying rape by attributing it to nature's behavior is unacceptable. As humans, we have the capacity to create societal norms and laws that prioritize ethical and moral conduct, even if it means deviating from some aspects of natural behavior. Civilization arises from our ability to consciously shape and regulate our actions in accordance with principles of justice, compassion, and respect for others.
Hello vimov, I've seen some discussions you had with muslims. all of them were but with laymen. I am writing this because i think you haven't looked into islam and I've seen you reiterate same arguments that muslim duaats have dealt with in the past, so you may get some helps from them. If you want to debate or discuss with scholars you can have one with any of the duaats(muslim scholars who preach to non-muslims), there are many for example Muhammad hijab or dawah wise or zeeshan from smiletojannah etc etc.
And there are many of them who speak Hindustani as well like Mufti yasir nadeem al-wajidi, or if you want to debate evolution then you have qaiser ahmed raja.
There are many, I've just named a few.
How do you know that they are "true" scholars?
Blesson is just repeating what he was taught
25:30 The guy actually deviated from what monism or Advaita actually says.
According to monism, material and non-material things are manifestations/aspects/properties of a single "underlying reality". From monism comes materialism and idealism, with materialism claiming that material objects constitute that "underlying reality". From a materialist point of view, mind resides inside of the brain, and it's more of an operation mode of the brain rather than something completely different. Talking about idealism, it claims that ideas constitute that "underlying reality" - your existence is just an idea that someone can have(or might already have) in their brain. "I think therefore I am" - is one of the classic that idealists quote, from Descartes. Idealism believes in the "duality" of mind and body whereas Materialism believes in mind/brain/etc. as something that makes up a bigger whole i.e. your body.
Meet advaita vedanta, that names this "underlying reality" as Brahman or Consciousness. It is sometimes also referred to, as "mere" or the "only thing ". I am not really sure as to what's going on in this world. But damn, some of you are really cool.
Western philosophy's claim was " I think therefore I am" and Eastern philosophy's core has been "I am and I do not know who I am, therefore I think" right? Btw you are the same guy who I came across earlier haha ! Do check the previous comment though , I did recommend some good stuff . cya :)
I have often seen people with religious and scientific knowledge become arrogant. They lose their innocence, love, and ease in life.
1:26:47 The so called upper caste people sit, work and study with people born in different castes, not because they are accepting or humane. It is because the law will punish them. Their religion doesn't stop them from casteism and bigotry.
1:27:15,Caste system of brahmanism is the most evil practice throughout the world till date😌
Varna could hv been changed there is discourse etc on that
Is there a historical evidence of Jesus?
Yes
There are many opinions. There are a significant number of scholars who think there was indeed someone of that description who was crucified. That's all. The rest is legend.
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I heard from somewhere that there's no proof for Jesus or Mohammed either.
@@chethanburre6016 Yes some people have that opinion too.
@@nagraboy1😂😅
A says 2+2=4, B says 3+1=4, C says 5-1=4.
X says 4 is nothing but an abstraction.
Y says what is 4?
Z says 0 is the real number.
the square of -1 says its all imaginary.
Aah to be reduced to an equation!
What is this human algo-rhythm?
This god schism.
If the creator created me then some part of the creator should be in me.
Am I a fragmentation of God?
God the Creator? is God an X?
A variable for the unknowable?
is God the square of -infinity?
Aah 2B or -2B.
Free me from this cage of abstraction oh square of -infinity.
Damn 🤯🤒
Haven't you heard 'God is dead'.
1:08:30 with reference to the caller K. She didn't complained about you when you give your opinion with data. She complained when you showed your insensitivity by making a sarcastic comment about something she holds dear. The purpose of that sarcastic comment was not educational. Lack of empathy and sensitivity are the issue here. Being honest and rational is good. Being rude is not.
Heya, I am K, I get what your intent is, but how can I respect women's rights violations and be sensitive to them? Sarcasm was needed because she didn't know anything that I pointed out
@@kingpin167 You did fine. Just don't hang about it. Don't get too emotional. You are bound to have many such encounters (if you continue to be rational). That's how the world is.
Vipan bro, I really need your dealer number.
(I am not joking 😌)
Sarcasm are not deserve Ban!
Be cool and fcuk the sentiments
Vimoh's arguments are absolute non sensical. Two people discussing something about which both are not sure about it.
5:40 nice
Should I applaud or pity the theist you gave you 1200 rupees through super-chats in order to be the enlightened centrist?
Talking about the Taliban being big bad Muslims without talking about the history of Afghanistan is just lazy and dumb. This kind of dumbness is what leads to Islamophobia. The Taliban was bolstered by US interference in the country and became seen as the freedom fighters. it's not like people randomly started supporting them.
No self of Buddhism makes more sense then bigger self Brahman of adveta.
Don't talk about Advaita if you haven't read any vedantic scripture. Atheism is like denying yourself.
I'll talk about whatever people come to talk to me about. Thankfully, we don't need your permission.
@@vimohlive,Thanks for the reply. I'd like to know your qualification. Bcz nobody is expert on everything as far as I know.
@@achyuthcn2555 Come to the live stream on any Saturday at 8 pm and we'll talk. I'll tell you my qualifications and you can tell me yours.
@@vimohlive, Cool... I'll come this saturday. 8pm IST right!!!
I think the court allows atheists to talk against the belief of God and the scriptures....as theists you can talk and praise God and promote, the same way we can promote atheism.
Consciousness and Spirituality are two of the most overused words that day... Anybody can throw around these two words to look enlightened.
Hey vimoh I'm not able to message you on Instagram.. If just says invite vimoh to chat.. I wanna send you video of blind faith to debunk