PICO 4 vs QUEST 2 - Which one Should I GET?

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  • @SoundBubble
    @SoundBubble 2 ปีที่แล้ว +213

    The Pico 4 IPD adjustment actually goes from 58mm-72mm, not 62mm-72mm. You just have to acknowledge a notification warning you that the lens edges might press against your nose and potentially cause discomfort at lower IPDs and larger noses. VR Essentials made a video demonstrating it a few days ago.

    • @GaaraSama1983
      @GaaraSama1983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      This is mentioned at 1:51.

    • @dathyr1
      @dathyr1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ah- that is good to know about the IPD goes lower than 62.

    • @laubox
      @laubox  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks for letting me know! i have added this in the live FAQ

    • @joel3399
      @joel3399 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@laubox you said that doing that squished your nose, right?

    • @laubox
      @laubox  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@joel3399 yeah! But never dared to go that low as at 62 it already crushed my nose...

  • @JohnSmith-mk8hz
    @JohnSmith-mk8hz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    The stock Quest 2 strap made my neck hurt after awhile too. I got a $20 elite style strap off Amazon and my neck feel MUCH better now. It balances much better.

    • @laubox
      @laubox  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      yeah some straps make it much better!

    • @KodaiRyu
      @KodaiRyu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I temporary use VR Cover fabric strap on my because it can relieve some pressure from face and friend made power bank holder so it acts good counter weight for now, haven't change facial interface yet but i'm waiting one from aliexpress XD

    • @judahhuber6463
      @judahhuber6463 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      $20!?

  • @mrbeckham666
    @mrbeckham666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    the most important thing you didn't mention from what I see. The pico 4 has an exact IPD setting and better lens as well as image quality. In my case, the difference is huge because the oculus quest 2 did not fit my IPD because I am 71mm. Setting the right IPD is the most important thing in VR

    • @brankelly1921
      @brankelly1921 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks MrBeckham666

    • @Ro1111-p3i
      @Ro1111-p3i ปีที่แล้ว

      Pico 4 has 2 displays,Quest2-1😆

    • @marn200
      @marn200 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also. I own a quest 2. And there’s a very big nose gap.

  • @zaidlacksalastname4905
    @zaidlacksalastname4905 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    There's no easy choice here, unless you do pcvr exclusively, there's so many advantages on both sides. I wish I could have the hardware of the pico with the software of the quest. Sounds like what a quest 3 should be, at minimum

    • @gs-nq6mw
      @gs-nq6mw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Anyone knows If I can pirate games at Pico Neo?

    • @zaidlacksalastname4905
      @zaidlacksalastname4905 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gs-nq6mw if it wasn't possible I wouldn't get it. It's the reason I got a PC a year ago

    • @zzedixx
      @zzedixx ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@accountdua9375 but Pico 4 is owned by tiktok which imo is worse

    • @zzedixx
      @zzedixx ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@accountdua9375 I'll still get the Pico 4 because I don't really care about the company, I care more about the product.

    • @jovanleon7
      @jovanleon7 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you're into fitness and getting healthy, it's easy

  • @Thomason1005
    @Thomason1005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    one missing comparison is the privacy policy. both headsets record your home, so it is important to dive in there. both companies have been in the news for privacy invasions, so this is the most deciding factor for me. all other differences are minor, really.

    • @bunnyfreakz
      @bunnyfreakz ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Brah everyone have your data. Even Goggle map know exactly where do u live.

    • @FlooferLand
      @FlooferLand ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bunnyfreakz .. every website you visit knows where you live, because every website needs your public IP to even send you content..
      I don't get what you're tryina say here xD
      Every big corporation wants your data, and it's your call whenever you want to allow them to sell your data or not. Less corporations collecting your personal information is better than all corporations collecting it.

    • @bunnyfreakz
      @bunnyfreakz ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@FlooferLand In nutshell, just pick your poison. Really.

    • @tiqosc1809
      @tiqosc1809 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      pico 4 got da pancake lenses, really worth it imo

  • @flyingtravel
    @flyingtravel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wow! Seeing you touching the switches in the A320 cockpit with the hand tracking made me buy this Pico 4 haha

  • @thenonexistinghero
    @thenonexistinghero 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    A bit odd that Virtual Desktop wasn't mentioned for PC streaming since for the Pico 4 it makes quite a difference compared to the current version of the streaming assistant. Of course it does cost a bit of money and it's a 3rd party app, but I do think it's worth a mention at least as long as the streaming assistant doesn't measure up to that yet.

    • @laubox
      @laubox  2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Hi nox! I did mention that you can use virtual deskop for both headsets in the video! But good you are pointing it out again! Thanks for the comment. much appreciated.

    • @thenonexistinghero
      @thenonexistinghero 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@laubox I see, I must have missed that. Sorry for that.

    • @gabrielloginekiszyszka5881
      @gabrielloginekiszyszka5881 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      streaming assisant when set up properly can have the same quality as vd

  • @MrLangz0r
    @MrLangz0r 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    For a cheap and way better option than the Elite strap, get the BOBOVR M2 Pro
    It has a waaaay better strap
    And it includes a battery pack that is magnetically attached to the back of the strap (serves as both a counterweight and a 5000 mah battery)
    I've been having a blast with it, and it so easy to switch out batteries mid gaming session

    • @blastofo
      @blastofo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or get one of the third party straps that doesnt have a built in battery, and just use a smartphone charger put in your pocket. Much cheaper

    • @MrLangz0r
      @MrLangz0r 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@blastofo Also an option, but I would say that since the battery is removeable, on the fly even, I'd recommend the bobovr set over a phone powerbank any day as it gives more comfortable counterweight, which the other thing wouldn't
      Also, a decent powerbank would cost around half of the bobovr strap with the battery included. So not even worth it

    • @covimelon2549
      @covimelon2549 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love bobo headstrap it good

  • @laubox
    @laubox  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    LIVE FAQ:
    - CAN I STILL PLAY BEAT SABER ON THE PICO 4?
    = Yes, via PCVR you can still play Beat Saber.
    - WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY AUTOMATIC IPD ADJUSTER
    = I meant to say motorized IPD Adjuster.
    - DO I HAVE A WEAK NECK?
    = Try to play a combat flight simulator for 2 hours wit 800 grams on you head
    - CAN THE PICO 4 IPD GO LOWER THAN 62MM?
    = Yes it can go as low as 58 MM. You just have to acknowledge a notification warning you that the lens edges might press against your nose and potentially cause discomfort at lower IPDs - Thanks @soundbubble

    • @ItssKavii2505
      @ItssKavii2505 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you test side quest on the pico 4??? Please do

    • @shahmirkhan5373
      @shahmirkhan5373 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Q1. do the controllers have analog output on both the grip and triggers?
      Q2. are there capacitive sensors on the trigger, joysticks, grip, and buttons for finger presence detection? (extremely important for gesture control on social vr games like vrchat)

    • @volvoxo
      @volvoxo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Does Pico 4 playing pc games with Type-c cable? (without WI-FI)

  • @museumsteve
    @museumsteve 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I still don't think we've seen anyone actually test the Pico running PCVR via USB-C, is it available yet?

    • @gdmunn83
      @gdmunn83 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Snap

    • @kevinbrook7033
      @kevinbrook7033 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He seemed to suggest he was connecting with it in the video, but if so, its preset options of smooth, SD and HD are garbage. Unless the pancake lenses susbtantially alter the amount of barrel distortion versus fresnal (which is possible I just haven't heard it) you need to run this headset at 3100 x 3100 per eye for it to look good.
      The Quest 2 needs to be run at 5408 x 2736, in which case it looks excellent, people running headsets at their panel resolution are not seeing what it actually looks like. Run the Quest 2 at its panel resolution and it's trash.
      If the Pico USB-C connection can't run at its proper full render resolution then it's completely pointless for high end VR.

    • @gdmunn83
      @gdmunn83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kevinbrook7033 well explained, ty

    • @dathyr1
      @dathyr1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is what i am also interested in. How does streaming (USB) look like compared to Direct Port (DP)? I have only done DP with my Oculus Rift S.

    • @caseyrybak
      @caseyrybak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can't because it's broken right now ( software), crashing or something like that) but it should be supported later.

  • @Blitzkrieg_Wolf
    @Blitzkrieg_Wolf 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The PICO 4 doesn't require you to make a social media account just to use it with other software/games, that's a major plus in my book.

  • @abakash9
    @abakash9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice review but it's quite baffling that you never mentioned the display clarity difference between the 2, or screen door effect or black levels. Isn't that important?? The display quality????

  • @GaaraSama1983
    @GaaraSama1983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Good short comparison that mentions all the important points. One small addition to the Pico OS/UI experience and you mentioning that Quest 2 has a two year headstart. That's not entirely correct. At release they will ship it with Pico OS 5 and already used earlier versions on older headsets like Neo 3. It's just a smaller software dev team compared to Meta but hopefully with the Bytedance acquisition and financial backing Pico will up their game.

    • @laubox
      @laubox  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      thank for the comment hok, i appreciate that! Thank you for letting us know, i did not know this.

  • @casiermarty5176
    @casiermarty5176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Is the image quality (youtube video, Netflix, Disney + etc) better on the pico 4?

  • @gdmunn83
    @gdmunn83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Does running PCVR games via wi-fi virtual desktop run as well as a link cable direct to the computer like the quest 2?. Is the image quality going to be as good using the Pico 4 USB C cable compared to the direct link cable of the quest 2? Pros and cons?

    • @dathyr1
      @dathyr1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I am also interested in info on PCVR connections pros and cons of the PICO 4. how degraded if any is the image qualities on PICO 4 connections compared to Direct Port connections of the Quest 2?

    • @gdmunn83
      @gdmunn83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dathyr1 this is what I would like to know to before making a purchase

    • @forferdeilig
      @forferdeilig 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Both use usb c to stream the picture to the headset, the pico 3 had a direct displayport link but not the 4:(

    • @gdmunn83
      @gdmunn83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Bingus I have watched "multiple videos" but still was not sure. Not understanding something and asking for help is not laziness??
      Human assumptions and judgment is astounding

  • @The.Jedi.Wizard
    @The.Jedi.Wizard ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If it wasn't for the fact pico 4 Library is way more limited and empty, i would surely take it over the quest. I am in a stalemate between both headsets now.

  • @40coats
    @40coats 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Pico has a motorised stepless IPD adjustment, but it's not automatic

    • @laubox
      @laubox  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for the correction you are right ! It is motorized not automatoc, wish it was :)

    • @JohnSmith-mk8hz
      @JohnSmith-mk8hz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, I can't wait till the motor breaks.

    • @cyantox
      @cyantox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@JohnSmith-mk8hz Why should it break 😂 It's a completely normal motor, which you only moves at a maximum of once a year as a normal user, so what can possibly go wrong with it?

    • @Killswitch1411
      @Killswitch1411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@laubox gotta drop $2000 for Varjo Aero if you want that feature.

    • @GaaraSama1983
      @GaaraSama1983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cyantox Nothing but also the reason they didn't need to motorize it. A manual dial would have been sufficient while saving another few grams of weight and production costs. Most likely Pico didn't want to have two IPD hardware designs as Pico 4 Pro will have eye and face tracking which also allows for automatic IPD adjustment.

  • @SjaakSchulteis
    @SjaakSchulteis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So I have the Quest2 and will however buy the Pico4 as well and a friend of mine who didn't have a headset at all, is also going to get the Pico4. About the weight, to get the Quest2 balanced, you need a counterweight, which I use with the BoBoVR headstrap with battery. It works very well. But then the Pico4 has its advantage: it is lighter and already balanced from start. I saw another video from MRT where Sebastian demonstrated the BoboVR battery set for the Pico4 that you can attache above the original battery pack. It makes the headset heavier, but the way he said it is not a big deal, because the extra weight is on the back of your head. So far everything I see from the Pico4 is good news. I play most games as PCVR games with my Quest, so I can use the Pico4 as well for it.
    But fitness I do also with the Quest and those are native to the Quest.... that's why I won't get rid of the Quest so soon. Besides it is always good to have a second machine as a backup.

    • @LlednarHugh
      @LlednarHugh 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's nice 👍! I think I'll get the pico 4 because I just want a good one from the start, I want to play Skyrim haha

    • @SjaakSchulteis
      @SjaakSchulteis 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@LlednarHugh Meanwhile we are over a year further since my last remark. I bought the Pico4 over a year ago, but in November also the Quest3 to replace my aging Quest2. I must say, after a few upgrades the Quest3 is my favourite gaming headset for stand alone gaming, but the Pico4 is mainly for watching movies and PCVR. All in all the Quest3 is a very good deal, but the Pico4 for PCVR is still great, depending on your PC of course. I had to upgrade and use an i5 with RTX3080. Still not the highest resolution, which can be handled with the Pico4, but overal great.

    • @LlednarHugh
      @LlednarHugh 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SjaakSchulteis nice 👍, I really appreciate the insights. Helps me in making better decisions. I was browsing earlier to compare the prices between the pico 4 and quest 2, turns out the pico 4 is cheaper, and I like cheap and good stuff, haha.

  • @ruedacastillo
    @ruedacastillo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If we compare the software between the two, what does Pico lack today, that Quest have?
    And how do prices move between both platforms? or its the same cost?
    Finally do you think that these differences will disappear?

  • @Pazuzu-2048
    @Pazuzu-2048 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Does the PICO have a video player similar to SKYBOX?

  • @4c30n3
    @4c30n3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I have quest 1 since its release, and I'll be getting pico 4 for sure. I rarely if ever play quest games, mainly using it for pcvr. So I won't be missing anything, software wise, going for the pico 🤩

    • @21EC
      @21EC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You haven't missed anything on Quest 2 as well (good choice not buying it) since I bought it and it's not that good :
      My comment copy pasted here - "Don't know about Pico 4 but I do know for sure that Quest 2 is crap and overhyped for no legit reason since I bought it once (like a year+ ago) and it was bad, the 3D effect of Quest 2 was meh, the colors of the screen were off a bit (LCD) and the FOV was really limiting (even Quest 1 has better FOV than it), the controllers also weren't as comfortable compared to Quest 1's controllers which are perfect, hence why I sold my Quest 2 and went back to my old Quest 1."

    • @onlinepersonalitydisorder1051
      @onlinepersonalitydisorder1051 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Quest 3 is coming later next year. Maybe wait for it before you decide ;)

    • @PotaraFusionHa
      @PotaraFusionHa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@onlinepersonalitydisorder1051 it's still gonna be front heavy because the design is still the same from all 3 leaks and the most likely one.

    • @Tremor244
      @Tremor244 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@21EC I got the Quest 2, it is my first experience with vr, and I'm sending it back, it is god awful, extremely uncomfortable, the picture is blury everywhere except the small spot in the middle, edges of panels are jagged, it's like playing a pc game at 640x480 resolution, but that's probably all you get in that tiny area of focus in the middle of the lens, The fov is also not that good. I don't understand why they though it would be a good idea to have all that weight at the front, sitting on a small spot on your forehead and cheekbones, it is madness. The pico 4 seems very tempting, properly balanced out of the box, pancake lenses for clarity, higher resolution too. the only thing I'm not really sure about is the color reproduction of the display, many reviewers said it is somewhat wahsed out, not as good as quest 2, and even the quest 2 has pretty bad colors in my opinion :/

    • @21EC
      @21EC ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Tremor244 Finally someone that can tell how bad or good a VR headset is..and yeah as I said Quest 2 is not good by any means (except for it's high resolution image), keep in mind that both of them share the same image sharpness, Pico 4 is said to be a bit more sharp but honestly I don't feel it but the image sharpness of Pico 4 is good overall, it depends on the content as well, some 180 SBS videos are incredibly sharp on their high resolution and it looks so real and some of these are not as good and are showing more of the SDE which is very tiny at worst case but still visible, Pico 4 does suffer sometimes from production defects and such, maybe now it was mostly fixed but mine was recieved with a wave like effect that is visible sometimes whenever I move/rotate my head around but sometimes it is not visible at all and then if the content is great then it's an overall good VR experience, some of these 180 SBS vids looked so damn good and realistic and amazing as an experience that I got shocked at how awesome it was, the colors of the Pico 4 are better in my own eyes than those of Quest 2, it almost looks like OLED with a tad less brightness but you don't have any weird blue tint or any tint, the colors look natural and good, actually the colors of Quest 2 as far as I recall were not looking that nice, it felt like it was lacking contrast and it was kind of dull in comparison and looked like it had white/gray layer with opacity on top or something, the 3D effect is also really good in Pico 4 better than Quest 2, question is whether all Pico 4 are 100% the same or not..I don't know, but I do know that in my own Pico 4 the colors are looking good and better, the FOV is also better but especially if you replace the official face pad with one like the GeekVR one (which I have which makes it more comfortable and gives a bit more FOV).

  • @glenner171717
    @glenner171717 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So I'm a little confused regarding pico linking to pc..I read you can only play pc games via air link with no cable,but on your video I see an option to link to pc via cable...so if there is cable link capability will it be USB or display port cable straight to graphics card..?..
    Great video..

  • @KalleankaJul
    @KalleankaJul ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:53 when he switched clips it felt very trippy so I think pico is more “REALISTIC”

  • @HansMilling
    @HansMilling 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Its a shame that none of the headset support Steam native so you can buy games on a single platform. I used to have a HTC Vive and have a bunch of VR games already on Steam. So having to connect the headset to my old PC to play these is a shame. Hardware wise the Pico 4 seem to be much better and even cheaper.

    • @entire3ds
      @entire3ds ปีที่แล้ว

      Right, a big downside 😮

  • @Ankhelz
    @Ankhelz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Isn't it possible to play the already bought Oculus games using PCVR?

  • @KalleankaJul
    @KalleankaJul ปีที่แล้ว

    3:29 him doing that and me feeling very smooth 😊

  • @ristopoho824
    @ristopoho824 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I already have the pico 4 but since my youtube feed is flooded with these comparisons and reviews, might as well watch some.
    My workplace has quest2 and i have my own pico4, and 3 link, the 3 only temporarily anymore, and. The pico4 is just from another world if used standalone. The battery life though, need to use an external powerbank if planning to use for a longer time. If someone thinking of getting a vr headset, i'd recommend pico4 for mostly standalone, but if mostly pcvr, well pico neo 3 link, it's simply better. The quest2 is arguably better standalone headset than pico3link, but the pico 4 is so much better. And there are maybe reasons to use quest2 over pico4 if pcvr is the main focus, but in that case might as well go for pico3link.
    The only reason i can think of to use quest2 now that there are options. The pro controllers. They cost 300$ on top of the headset, but seem to be so much better than, well any other standalone headset controllers. Hm. Owning the quest2 already is another reason to keep using it, it's by no means obsolete. For new users, and especially for a first time VR users, pico 4 is better, and i'm not regretting getting it one bit.

    • @hausu3163
      @hausu3163 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      why is pico 3 better for pcvr?

    • @ristopoho824
      @ristopoho824 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hausu3163 Oh right. Pico 3 link specifically. The uncompressed video is really a lot better, even if it has lower resolution.

  • @johntrace5975
    @johntrace5975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question: Can these VR headset replace our PC Monitor? Can I use it as a PC Monitor? So I can work or even play a movie from my PC and it will display on the VR.

  • @gmr2gnr
    @gmr2gnr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    any issues with light bleed on the side of the cushion of pico 4?

    • @laubox
      @laubox  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have not had as much problems with that as other reviewer have i hope they improve this with a new face cover!.

    • @aj2228
      @aj2228 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@laubox the face cover is magnetic, so obviously designed with replacement in mind for different faces.

  • @21EC
    @21EC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:46 - WOW....look at that...how much smaller is the Pico 4 compared to Quest 2...and how much the lenses of Pico 4 are bigger than Quest 2...so good, I guess Pico 4 should be a good buy.

  • @TheRealAlpha2
    @TheRealAlpha2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Good VR without Facebook _and_ can do PC VR too? It sounds too good to be true. If it were available in the US and I had the available cash I'd buy this in an instant over Quest.

    • @LevlQil
      @LevlQil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think its the same company behind tiktok, which already tells you enough about your data though

    • @muffdriver69
      @muffdriver69 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah but I don't use that tiktok junk. You just need to make a fake email on the pico and off you go.

  • @NotKnown_Official
    @NotKnown_Official ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can actually play beat saber now on the pico 4 I think.

  • @raeldor
    @raeldor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    For me the Pico 4 is very uncomfortable compared to the Quest 2. There is massive light leakage on the side and the headset jams into my (rather large) nose. I also can't get a clear picture unless I tilt the headset up slightly so all the pressure is on my forehead. I had the same issue with the Vive Focus 3. I think Mark Z has a similar head shape to me, which is why the Meta devices always seem to fit me better 😅. I think having multiple fit-kits at launch is crucial for VR vendors. Comfort is SO important.

    • @mirshia5248
      @mirshia5248 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      are you sure about the clarity? pancake lenses should have the same clarity on the entire lenses not just a sweet spot

    • @HeheLife123
      @HeheLife123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sorry, pico is a Chinese company, the design is more in line with Asian design

    • @raeldor
      @raeldor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HeheLife123 Yes, but it's marketed and sold around the world (Europe at least). Therefore they should cater and conduct user testing for the regions they intend to sell in.

    • @raeldor
      @raeldor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mirshia5248 No lens has clarity across the entire surface. I wish it did, but that's just a pipe dream. Having said that, the tilt issue is only VERY slight and also would probably be addressed with a better fitting facial interface.

  • @glenner171717
    @glenner171717 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm deciding on quest 2 or pico 4 just to play pc games on steam but if there's no plan on a pico 4 cable link then quest 2 is in favour..

    • @madsoncaminha2517
      @madsoncaminha2517 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wifi with steam isnt good enough?

    • @elias4364
      @elias4364 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@madsoncaminha2517 My problem is game time (battery life) or does it not matter if the cable is plugged in? If i wanted to connect the pico 4 to pc via usb-c does it still drain the battery? And does it on the Quest 2?

    • @rattlingduck8454
      @rattlingduck8454 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Quest 2 doesn't have display either

  • @redsta100
    @redsta100 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Upgraded from Q2 256 to P4 256 - HUGE difference. Pico 4 is so awesome! Lenses and image quality, also audio quality is better. PC connection just works via air wifi, quest 2 was black screen of death. And there was no fuss, just click pico connect app, sync and that's it, no dancing around, like with old quest 2 - nothing worked. Watching video is no comparison. Love PICO 4! RTX 3090, AMD 5900x, 32GB DDR 4000 cl 16. Oh, PICO 4 doesn't feel like a brick on your face too, play longer, enjoy comfort.

  • @gdmunn83
    @gdmunn83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So if I plug the Pico 4 into my pc via USB C can I access the oculus store for games or only the steam store and are there many more games that are exclusive on the oculus store and not on Steam?

  • @aleksandersjonsti3655
    @aleksandersjonsti3655 ปีที่แล้ว

    how is it for watching movies? want to use a VR headset for watching movies to block out all distractions

  • @viktorianas
    @viktorianas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great content!

    • @laubox
      @laubox  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks vik, much appreciated!

  • @jack-hale
    @jack-hale 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel like no beat saber is a big draw away from switching for some people

  • @Spedley_2142
    @Spedley_2142 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I had the original Rift, then the Quest 1. It's passed time to upgrade and I was hoping for good things from the Quest Pro.
    I'm quite disappointed with the Pro for the price but will see it in person first. The Quest 2 isn't much of an upgrade over the Quest 1 and I find it hard a hard jump to make but switching to the Pico 4 may be a good idea. I only have £100 worth of games (worth keeping) that I'd have to rebuy on the Pico but I want to edge over to Steam anyway.
    What's the Pico like with glasses and how is the PC-wifi connection for it - my Quest 1 cable connection is crap?

    • @newtonfaust7961
      @newtonfaust7961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      the pico works just fine with glasses, also the quest pro isnt for gaming

    • @adr2t
      @adr2t 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "pro" is a bit miss leading its a "enterprise" headset. If you have access to the Pico 4 I say get that... if not because you live in the US - you would be better off waiting for the Quest 3.

    • @Spedley_2142
      @Spedley_2142 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adr2t I can't see much 'enterprise' about the Quest Pro. I think they had a clear goal but had to make too many compromises. I'm pretty sure Meta wanted something close to Augmented Reality which appeals much more to business. I don't think business cares much about facial expressions so all they've really got is slightly higher picture quality with pancake lenses to make it a bit lighter.

    • @adr2t
      @adr2t 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Spedley_2142 Its about as "enterprise" as it gets ... it work with windows's login in system... Cost almost 4 times more than current headsets. Focus on business use case. Na, the compromises are self created not a trade off. For example, we know they have access to larger flat lenses (Pico uses them) and we also know that they know they didnt need Face and Eye tracking. Thats all designs choices witch is something they control. Or how about the fact they didnt focus the headset towards PCVR that would have the power and data cable they remove and then focus the idea of this headset to be used in this matter and is now limited to 2hrs or doesnt support link (it uses link, but in a compress matter) / raw data in and out put such as using USB-C to DP. While I under these are limites of the XR - they are not limits of the PC that they could've focus on releasing different modes for. I can go on of course:) As for AR - they kind of failed at it just a tinny bit... if that was their main goal.. they miss out on the deapth sensor it was to come with... I understand things dont always time well - but I would've assume you delay it if for a feature if its a core one. Just strange choices in my opinion. Also the idea of using the word "enterprise" helps clear its for business use and not "pro" where pro tends to mean something at a higher spec. Similar to saying "Super", "TI", "End high", etc. ITs a bit miss leading and thats why you have people talking like Quest "pro" was their headset... when reality if they call it Quest "Enterprise" I feel would've tooken any thunder someone would've in understanding what the headset was for.

    • @linck7up
      @linck7up 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      w8 for quest 3

  • @danielklein7729
    @danielklein7729 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This questions is answered vaguely at best.
    Will I be able to play my Steam games, on the Pico 4, through a USB-C Cable?

    • @Framed7
      @Framed7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that would work. but it's not DP so it's better to just use wireless tbh

    • @kevinbrook7033
      @kevinbrook7033 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Framed7 USB-C has plenty of bandwidth, at 10 gb/s (gen 2v2 has 20 gb/s). Unfortunately the XR2 chip (at least on the Quest 2) can only handle about 450 mb/s. That's still three times more bandwidth than the 150 mb/s connection on Pico wireless, so the USB-C connection should be much better.
      On the Quest 2 USB-C on a proper gen 2 port is much better than wireless, and compression artifacts aren't visible on a high end card like a 3090. Wireless always looks bad imo.

    • @kevinbrook7033
      @kevinbrook7033 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Bingus it's underclocked, it's not 'severely' underclocked. Stop being hyperbolic, you're bad at it.

  • @andyb9127
    @andyb9127 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not sure your correct about Meta Quest 2 exclusive games not available on Pico 4. Technically you are right as they are not natively available to install stand alone but when you say you can't play these games on Pico 4, that's not correct. Most of these games are available via PCVR.

  • @BasJon
    @BasJon 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I know this is a year later, I just bought my first VR last week being the meta quest 2, I thought it was amazing for my first go with VR but I hated the strap for comfort always moving on my head unless I made the strap so tight, sadly after only 3 days of use I plugged in the charge cable on day 3 and it actually broke the inside connection in the headset and no longer charges, I sent it back today for a refund, now I cannot decide if I got a poorly made headset in the factory or I was unlucky. Now seeing this video I am thinking of getting the pico 4 instead, I will say I am single and wow when I watched adult content on the meta quest 2 it actually blew me away, I am guessing the pico 4 can do the same and I can transfer movies onto the headset hard drive and watch it ? I was thinking of going for the meta quest 3 but the price, any help would be gladly appreciated thank you.

    • @laubox
      @laubox  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for your detailed comment I appreciate it. If I was you , go for the quest 3!

    • @BasJon
      @BasJon 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you@@laubox

  • @futojanos
    @futojanos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use my quest 2 since day one and I never jad any problem with th strap just have to set up properly. hoewer psvr is more comfortable. But quest was hurting your neck?? what????? I never had that problem. ever.

  • @mauladjafar6367
    @mauladjafar6367 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You mentioned both devices can watch youtube, how did you manage to get youtube running on Pico 4? Netflix also seems to hit the DRM black screen issue. Any advice? Thanks!

  • @_SamH2061
    @_SamH2061 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is the star wars and blade and sorcery game on pico 4

  • @abdulkadireraslan2330
    @abdulkadireraslan2330 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there a way you can use the quest controllers on the pico? I think the pico controller is not doing great in positioning itsself

  • @tykeno
    @tykeno 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some people play the quest with regular strap. This guy just said if u add something to quest 2 it's heavier so pico is lighter... wtf this makes me think this comparison isn't objective. But when it comes to comparing the straps then he uses default quest 2 straps but not for the weight

  • @MotmedGaming
    @MotmedGaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How is the delay on the pico with wireless pcvr?

  • @mustafanaik5866
    @mustafanaik5866 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the quest is expensive in europe. got mine for $450 CAD, which is about 330 Euro. cool to know

  • @corebite
    @corebite 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i'm playing pcvr only through steam. worth spending 430 on pico 4 to switch from quest 2?

    • @laubox
      @laubox  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      maybe sell your quest 2 for a good price and than get the pico 4?

    • @corebite
      @corebite 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@laubox bought it for 350 and bought the kiwi headstrap for 50. 400 in total so I'm thinking around 300 euros. Granted, i did use it very intensively but have always kept it clean. Nearly no use marks on it. No scratches. I have it sinds february 2022. Sinds it's gone up in price I was thinking of asking 350 for it, but it might be too much. Looked at what others are selling it for and some are almost just giving it awayfor free. Like 225 with elite strap, very competetive prices (that was the cheapest one though, others are around 300). What are your thoughts?

  • @das_evoli
    @das_evoli ปีที่แล้ว

    It is so hard now what headset to use when you start with VR. There is no perfect headset and all of them are super expensive. The announcement of the Quest 3 just made it harder. Personally I only care about RE4 when going standalone. 99% of the time would be used in PCVR. The only productivity I would wanna use is using a Whiteboard in VR which probably also works on PCVR.

  • @THaukage
    @THaukage 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The image scale for playing in PCVR is that much different betwen these VRs, even considering Quest 2 having more options for resolution?

  • @RadioactiveGrass
    @RadioactiveGrass 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is simulator on 6:42 ? Aerofly?

  • @Mocha14001
    @Mocha14001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oculus software sucks my headset no longer connects to my phone and there 0 troubleshooting to help, temporarily quest didn’t allow me to update games once they update they just restarted. The oculus also won’t let me change internets almost all of the time then randomly the menus buttons work. Controller have extreme stick drift. The worst part about all of quest is that the headset I’m talking about now was my 3rd headset the other 2 broke

  • @chuckm869
    @chuckm869 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i love my quest...big turn off for me about the pico is no mic plugin and no way to change the straps...Plus the company who owns tik tok bought them so if you thought facebook was spying on you imagine what these guys are doing

  • @ondrejpolak5747
    @ondrejpolak5747 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey guys, I'm just thinking about buying my first VR headset. I'm thinking about PICO 4 more sice I'll play PC VR...mostly. BUT Since I never had any VR headset I don't know how all this SW works. I understand that there are some exclusive games for both platforms. But let's say I want to play beat saber I can play it via PCVR but what about Lone echo? Somewhere I came across information that Quest games can be run normally on PC via their app and then streamed to the headset via VR desktop. So is it possible to play Quest 2 exclusive games this way on PICO 4? Or do I have to resign myself to losing these games?

    • @21EC
      @21EC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Don't know about Pico 4 but I do know for sure that Quest 2 is crap and overhyped for no legit reason since I bought it once (like a year+ ago) and it was bad, the 3D effect of Quest 2 was meh, the colors of the screen were off a bit (LCD) and the FOV was really limiting (even Quest 1 has better FOV than it), the controllers also weren't as comfortable compared to Quest 1's controllers which are perfect, hence why I sold my Quest 2 and went back to my old Quest 1.

    • @PurpleGuyishere
      @PurpleGuyishere ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@21EC thank you 👍 so helpful so so helpful 😑

    • @21EC
      @21EC ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PurpleGuyishere Thanks, BTW I have the Pico 4 now..and I can tell it's screen colors are better and also look like OLED to me compared to the dull colors of Quest 2 and the FOV of Pico 4 without its official face pad is as big as Quest 1's FOV without its face pad (but the Pico 4 even has a bit more vertical FOV than it), but there is an issue of aliasing with texts/lines with Pico 4 and some people complain about production quality issues (it's not guaranteed to be perfect with each unit) and Pico 4 has a bit of wave like distortion effect (for me at least) but most of the time it is not noticeable, overall still the Pico 4 is better than Quest 2 so this time around I had a reason to stick to Pico 4 instead of ending up selling it like I did with Quest 2.

  • @alexlee6859
    @alexlee6859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm waiting for the lynx r1 to drop for the reviews for deciding between the 3. Thing is, in a recent update, if you preorder the lynx r1 now, it'll arrive like in March even tho the first units start shipping in November...

  • @enerjaz6871
    @enerjaz6871 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did the UI of PICO 4 develop from the date of the video and if yes, by how much?

  • @deutschejar
    @deutschejar ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok that's an amazing comparison, but now that I know that computer games need to be plugged in to your computer. If I will play only computer games, should I pick the Pico4VR or maybe would be better an AR glasses? I'd like to have an immersive experience, which would you choose?

  • @nsty1395
    @nsty1395 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Buying new headset, pico 4. But im not selling my old quest 2, so if i want to do something with my quest 2, i will do that!

  • @chrisdown9914
    @chrisdown9914 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hello i am looking for a vr. I never had a vr in my life so i dont want a crazy one. I think i am going with the quest 2 since the price is 275 rn and the pico remains at 400

  • @ChickenEater25
    @ChickenEater25 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My birth day is in 20 days and i really want my first vr headset and i have ben thinking for a wile about buying the piko 4 but i dont know what do you think i should do

  • @greenbunnyinabongo7299
    @greenbunnyinabongo7299 ปีที่แล้ว

    I put my Pico 4 on a grizzly bear at Woburn zoo, it started spinning around and bumped into a tree which it then climbed up and it never came back down 😢

  • @x1c3x
    @x1c3x ปีที่แล้ว

    So did anything change these past 11 months regarding Pico 4? Is it something that gets updates or is it a neglected product?

  • @Mayor_Imad
    @Mayor_Imad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about developer mode in Pico4?
    Does it easily allow any outside sources?

  • @B4nan0n
    @B4nan0n 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This was a good review 👏!
    Btw do you think pico 4 is high resolution enough for being use like a virtual monitor/desk for having multiple 1080p monitors?
    I hope the pancakes lenses are way better for that >.

    • @Kaiylre
      @Kaiylre 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you end up getting it? Curious about the same thing!

  • @ironmedsvr
    @ironmedsvr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did they get rid of the bugs on the pico4?

  • @blm7929
    @blm7929 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you play to Flight Simulator ? Wired, wireless, with Pico 4 utility or Virtual Desktop ? Because another tester said that FS with Pico 4 and Virtual Desktop require a huge hardware because even with a RTX 3080 it will lag at higher settings.
    I mostly play Elite Dangerous and Project Cars 2 with a Quest first gen and Virtual Desktop and I don't know if I should get Pico 3 Link with it's DisplayPort or Pico 4 with it's pancake lenses and better resolution but no DisplayPort...

  • @4Bakers
    @4Bakers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does the Pico 4 support VRChat? Asking for a friend who's considering upgrading from their Quest 2, which they have to get a replacement for.

    • @FentinoVR
      @FentinoVR ปีที่แล้ว

      ℕ𝕠𝕥 𝕪𝕖𝕥

  • @slicedpage
    @slicedpage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    another helpful video on the P4. Thank you. Did you notice any discomfort on your cheekbones or forehead from it?

  • @charlievibin9076
    @charlievibin9076 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    if ur just wanting a new vr headset or thinking of upgrading just wait quest 3 will most likely come out later this year or next year

  • @ConchStreetStories
    @ConchStreetStories 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Heyy.. where is this setting at 05:55 in the Quest 2 ??

    • @NicWir
      @NicWir 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can find it in the Oculus App on your desktop go on Setup where you find your Quest 2 headset (your headset must be on and connected to the pc) click on on your Quest 2 in the app and it should be under settings

  • @MAslamIbrahim
    @MAslamIbrahim 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hi! i’m thinking of getting either one. but i’m looking to just replace my monitor. i wana play games like soccer/football and simcity. so basically what’s best to just get a virtual desktop?

  • @yannisgk
    @yannisgk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    what about 3d movies or 4k movies transferred from my hdd to the internal memory of both headsets???

  • @beisvaggos
    @beisvaggos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So what should i get i eant my vr for gaming and some pc gaming ?

  • @monki5833
    @monki5833 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ya what do I do i have I am going to get one but which one because I want to play beat star and I want the pico so which one should I get

  • @Bluth53
    @Bluth53 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bluetooth Headset to get fully immersed???
    Worst advise I've heard (considering it's not AptX)

    • @laubox
      @laubox  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I meant just using Headphones

    • @Bluth53
      @Bluth53 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@laubox fair enough 😉

  • @Thrakus
    @Thrakus ปีที่แล้ว

    IS the hardware open like osvr with psco 4 , so you can emulate/spoof other vr headset? o love having control over my hardware as a feel vr is like a tv , yet they treat it like a game systen.

  • @fifise8486
    @fifise8486 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is the maximum length of the cable that can be used to link the Pico 4 to the computer ?

    • @czebosak
      @czebosak ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends on the cable

  • @chefbrody
    @chefbrody 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    would the pico 4 be a good choice to play elite dangerous ?

  • @avigu1324
    @avigu1324 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you so much you realy helped me

  • @manojkumargound6207
    @manojkumargound6207 ปีที่แล้ว

    i just want to watch 3d videos in VR. please suggest which vr among those two should i buy

  • @Ghost-vf8bk
    @Ghost-vf8bk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hello I have a question can we play with meta quest players?
    I have a pico 4

    • @laubox
      @laubox  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah sure! if not all games offer crossplay i think between q2 and pico 4

  • @chrisohagan4825
    @chrisohagan4825 ปีที่แล้ว

    My son got a pico 4 from santa an i have to say its awesome ... i found some settings on youtube an tried them out an its way more crisper... but super job an hes so haply with it .... but thsy should cross platform with quest on more games as my son can only play with some of his on their quest 3z on a few games ... but im happy with it ...

  • @abdalrhmanyassin1893
    @abdalrhmanyassin1893 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you, i have looked for comparing like this ,but you say something about mixed reality, do they both support windows mixed reality ?

  • @jokkie007
    @jokkie007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it possible to have a link cable to your pc with pico 4? Because you are saying that but I am reading on internet that’s not possible.

    • @laubox
      @laubox  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it is possible!

  • @rushmore3927
    @rushmore3927 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seems a huge miss is no comparison of one of the biggest things: Image and video quality.

  • @DinoGBG
    @DinoGBG ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you play online white your friends if you have an pico 4 and they have an oculus

  • @pipopu
    @pipopu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you think I should get the 128GB or 256GB model of the pico. I haven’t owned a vr headset before so I nothing about teh filesizes.

  • @SnoopWog
    @SnoopWog 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does pcvr via usb picture quality look much better than wireless streaming

  • @goodcanoe8607
    @goodcanoe8607 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks - very informative comparison. Does anyone know if the pico 4 will also stream/cast to a google chromecast?

  • @gobgob3628
    @gobgob3628 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The only real question I need is can the pico 4 use vr chat if yes I'm sold

  • @mrAskra
    @mrAskra ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any recent update about pico games?

  • @jdriesen9496
    @jdriesen9496 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi,
    I'm thinking about to buy pico only for steam vr games.
    which one should i buy the 128gb or 256gb.
    Thanks for the vid.

    • @laubox
      @laubox  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Keep with the 128GB! You wont need storage to play PCVR games only :)

    • @jdriesen9496
      @jdriesen9496 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@laubox thanks

  • @VRietySociety
    @VRietySociety 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    question - how weak is your neck :O I have a halo strap with a battery and also had the default strap prior playing until the quest was flat but never had any neck strain :/

  • @_sylSYLsyl_
    @_sylSYLsyl_ ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the pico 4 support ideal payment in the netherlands or would i need something else to buy virtual desktop

  • @AD-zc2ug
    @AD-zc2ug 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How stable is guardian for big area?

  • @AdityaAhlawat-v1i
    @AdityaAhlawat-v1i 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Also i thought disney plus and prime werent on the quest 2

    • @laubox
      @laubox  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Those are just web apps that you can access

    • @AdityaAhlawat-v1i
      @AdityaAhlawat-v1i 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@laubox O ye that makes sense

    • @AdityaAhlawat-v1i
      @AdityaAhlawat-v1i 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      cause i saw on the pico 4 they are actual apps

  • @ThomasJamne
    @ThomasJamne ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thx for excelent presentation. Do you have the name of the the flightsim app? The one with airliner.

    • @laubox
      @laubox  ปีที่แล้ว

      hi Thomas, thank you very much for your comment. I appreciate that! The flight sim app is Aerofly FS4, great in VR!