I Built a Simulated Ornithopter and the Results Surprised Me
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- Can an Ornithopter REALLY fly?
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Messier: _gets the solution to the thopter wings in a dream_
*Lisan al Gaib!*
*cue Mongolian throat singing* Dreams are messages from the deep
As written
The sleeper has awakened!
The spice melange!
@@Fury9erA man of culture as it seems, I like it
"*Starts designing ornithopter*"
"*vision of how to solve design issues comes to you in a dream*"
Must have been a coincidence.
Loolz. Dream ftw.🤔
Bro snuffed spice that night
@@SALEENS7GTR5the spice was in the air of his tent; he did not realize it.
Dreams are messages from the deep...
an old technique hence the saying i will sleep on it, part of the brain just carrys on trying to solve problems whilst the conscience part of the brain is at rest... ive had many insights and solutions just by this method...
I like that Flyout makes it look like the pressure waves coming of the wingtips are so bad, they create shock-wave condensation. Who needs the sound to be generated as audio, when you can literally SEE it ;)
Yeah I literally just watched another video about the dune ornithopter saying that the blades would be so loud, probably louder than turbines and props
Fun fact, the "twisting" part of the motion is only necessary at low speeds. Once you get some airflow past the wing, a pure flapping motion generates thrust because the angle of the relative wind tilts the lift vector forwards during the downstroke (and aft during the upstroke, but the lift magnitude is smaller during the upstroke). That may be why your design produced little thrust at low speeds, rather than anything to do with "power bands".
"Spastic washing machine" is crazy
I just finished rewatching the first part of dune, since I’m going to see part two tomorrow,
and I see this as the first video in my subscriptions
What a coincidence
It’s trending because of dune, for sure, but people who have never interacted with the Dune movies (me) are also getting the recommendation today.
Those wings really be going spastic. Every time I look at them, I think my brain has a minor aneurysm
Look up if that wing "collective" has ever been done on an ornithopter before. If not, patent that shit immediately.
Patents aren't free
@@HALLish-jl5mo Which is simply just... fucked. But, I can see why they now are.
I'm not gonna lie, my first thought to him thinking of changing the amplitude was an audible "yeah, no shit" so I'd be pretty pissed if something so obvious as a concept could be patented
@@7r1p0d5 welcome to the wondrous world of *✨✨✨✨ Intellectual Property ✨✨✨✨*
Just so you know... Yeah aerospace engineer here. we're watching.
The ornithopters in Dune actually... Don't have mechanical engines, canonically.
Instead, there's a genetically-engineered living creature that filters air particles for food which lives inside the 'engine' housing, and the aircraft uses the muscles of the creature itself to flap the wings, with the controls seemingly prompting electrical impulses to tell it what to do.
Upside is technically they don't require fuel.
Downside is the creature can get tired, injured, and you need to store ornithopters somewhere with constantly circulating air or the 'engine' will starve to death / suffocate.
That lore was also, mind you, written back when they flapped more like a bird, and less like dragon flies, so not all models may operative on such a principal.
The planes in the movies seem pretty mechanical
Just a little concerning.
If they crash the poor creature does to 🙁
I never read the books, but I recall that according to the lore, many aeons ago an AI uprising once happened, and when it was quelled, machines that previously had artificial intelligence were no longer allowed to be "smart" or "thinking" hence the human mentat was born to take over the job of computers. And I guess that's also why the modern dune ornithopters are fully analog machines with very little to no digital parts.
@@alexrator7674yhea i think the living creature are from the book Denis Villeneuve took a lot of liberty from the source material with the two DUNE
@@mrhonkhonk6116 yeah i know
I know nothing about planes which is exactly why this is interesting. It also brings me back to the "simpler and calmer" military videos
9:20 in the Dune movies, the 3D artists executed the same design under the hood. You can see, when the thopters are coming in for a hot landing, that the amplitude is much higher than the normal "stable" flight.
Congratulations on 50k! 🎉🥳
0:19 No, I actually just finished rewatching Revenge of the Sith for the thirtieth time, and thought the Wookies had a cool plane.
I think to get the high speed efficiency you use jet thrust engine and than make the wings act as normal airplane wings instead of flapping. Then at lower speeds you use the wings flapping foe hover and manuvering.
I realize I am very ignorant about this. The comme t was just for fun.
If ornithopters ever have the root causes of the wings being difficult to move at high speed figures out, I think these could be way better than helicopters. Helicopters have a few things that ornithopters solve. Firstly, ornithopters don’t have heavy gyroscopic forces acting on it, solving multiple problems like an imbalance of control and being extremely difficult to land (mainly when landing, any amount of roll and sometimes pitch input will tip the helicopter over almost every time). Secondly, the ornithopter has an efficient way of gliding, meaning it potentially has much better range. Ornithopters also could potentially be quieter than a typical helicopter with enough research because of the way the way wings don’t just smash into air but rather scoop it and force it down.
The way he modeled it, I wonder if you could have a fitting joint on pilons that move up in down in a half gear reduction from the full crank of the engine. Essentially only allowing so much motion, half way through one full crank the gears are released by a transmission so the blade can return to the starting position
If you do a follow up vid, or a video on cyclogyros/cycloidal rotors, I’d love to hear your thoughts comparing the two. To my mind they share a lot of similarities: many long blades protruding horizontally, which provide both propulsion and the main lifting area, ability for higher horizontal speed than traditional helicopters while retaining increased maneuverability and some amount of S/VTOL, and (imo the biggest challenge with both designs) the unusual motion of the blades putting them under complex lateral loads, unlike the simpler centripetal tension of a helicopters blades.
14:46 Keep in mind that helicopters like the Hind also taxi on the ground, specially when carrying a heavy load.
I did make 2 or 3 in brick rigs and it does work tho it depends of the way u aproach it, tho there is a pleaging issue which is simulation frequancy which makes it work best with really wide and super long wings and a kinda slow flapping rate, and its really hard to make fully stable by only using the 4 or 8 flapping wings, tho I did end up with even more controls than a typical hellicopter with my design
but yeah, ur rotor design for the wings is genious and I might copy it for my own contraptions
and yeah, I wish I had flyout, sadly I dont have money nor enough reasons to get it...
I'm gonna show this to an aeronautics engineer and see if he says that it's possible.
The main problem for an ornithopter is that pretty much everything it can do a helicopter can also do too, with only some of the issues like "god himself wants to obliterate this horrid machine" or mechanical unreliability.
Impressive work man! I’m surprised that Flyout can handle something like this. You think we’ll ever see ornithopters in our lifetime?
There are tons of helicopters that can taxi. The apache is one example off the top on my head.
Aircraft idea: good ol' fashion heavy/strategic bomber, I'm curious to see your design choices
Got to admit, I laughed at the extended IRCCCCCCCCCCCCM bit
There is nothing strong enough or light enough to support the wings flapping at speed. One of those things that doesn't scale up well.
DoD acquisitions department: SHUT UP AND TAKE OUR MONEY
Specifically, that's an anisothopter.
I was big into tinkering with my own designs in X-Plane, so I bought Flyout. Fooled with it an hour. Couldn’t get my Sidewinder FFB to bind and move the control surfaces correctly. Couldn’t figure out how to get to cockpit view on a plane at all. Haven’t touched it since, since if I only have a few hours to play I want to play, not figure out arcane setup mysteries. It’s a GREAT idea for a game, yet once again it’s another game shooting itself in its own foot by making basic setup a counter-intuitive PITA.
I knew this had DecoFox written all over it! I'm loving this colab
OMG I can't believe that u are made this
I just wrote it on a comment
I didn't think that you are gonna do it
Thanks bro❤
Love the condensing vapors procedurally generated by Flyout
Please Team up with Mike Patey and make this a real thing! You can classify it as experimental. I feel he would eat this up!
Attempt 1 : Try making a Carrier-Based AWACS Plane
My issue with a dragonfly-style ornithopter is - could the blades and machinery realistically survive oscilating like that for a cost-effective amount of time? I feel like it'd just shake itself to pieces?
Do like my ornithopter. Impressed, one can actually make one in game. Even if it takes a lot of finagling.
I have had ideas like that in dreams before too! I thought it was just me lol
Have you considered Festo's Bionic Flying Fox design to recreate WWII comicbook hero Airboy's ornithopter Birdie?
Can’t wait for part 2 of the endless wars series
The wings are oddly not proportional to what is physically required to make that much lift. With our atmosphere the wing would need to be bigger.
This is epic, very good job!
The answer is Reynolds number: Birds are not flying, compared to our flying machines, they are more swimming in the air. They wings are very light to store minimum of kinetic energy. Therefore the most heavy bird flying is kori bustard with 19 kg.
sorry your comment almost makes sense. but...no
@@daviddavids2884 you shouldn't juge my comment by your senses, but by your knowledge.)
@@ИванПанкратов-н9л This is very wrong. The only time where the viscosity of air comes into play is with insects, birds are too large for that effect.
Source: I build RC airplanes that are the same size as birds, and they fly great even when only doing a first-order analysis.
Very nice, how about making an Ornithopter Ornithopter carrier ?
incredible chunk of work
Does Flyout simulate autorotation? Can you create autogyros with it?
I also wonder if it is more feasible/practical to shorten the wings and make a short take off version. Or how fast/efficient could one be with the horizontal thrust maximized?
Second time watching this and just now realized Messier is using Krita
Hi
Don't suppose you have any schematics for this Ornithopter ? I'm interested in making a "working" model...
Now I want to see an VTOL build
speaking of silly aircraft. please try top build your own "airwolf" ! Basically something like a helicopter but supersonic.
I wonder if ornithopters would summon clouds irl...
Hey I have a question, how to do always make those really good and detailed cockpits?
It literally purrs.
Messier, could this in theory be purely electrically powered?
Wouldn't the Dune "Ornithopters" actually be Entomopters?
It's ornithopter day!
Don't let Lockheed Martin see this video
“Dragonfly-1 defending”
Helicopters can taxi on the ground
now i can't un hear that cat haha
4 am dude
I hope this is uploaded post release
It is a failure because is unreliable the stress makes the materials break after a while on the air
Heh silly craft using kitty purrs as engine noise
sooo you built a helicopter with extra steps...
jolly good
While MANNED ornithopter aircraft taking off (har-dee har) is next to never going to happen due to practicality reasons, ornithopter drones are probably very likely to have reason for existing, mostly in the civil and spy senses
they already are used for those purposes
When I was younger I had the wowee dragonfly ornithopter, it still required a tail rotor for yaw but it was genuinely the coolest thing I've ever owned.
With the popularity of the newest DUNE movies, I'm pretty sure someone is gonna show up at Oshkosh in a manned ornithopter one of these days.
You forgot Artillery Spotting and Reconnaissance for individual Soldiers. And they can also be used as a mobile Security Camera system that’s far more natural than the high pitch whizzing we get with traditional quad, octa, and penta drones.
And we could even make these ornithopters look and fly just like birds that we see would see in the area(native species) that would have landing areas set up for them where they could land and recharge via contact with the perch similar to how birds are able to sit in a power line or wire and not fall off while sleeping. Then when the bird is needed to move. It just generates a bit of lift with a flap of its wings while pushing off the charging wire/perch where they would then fly off to the next point to repeat the process
The question isn't whether small thropters can fly, the question is whether they have significant advantages over swashplate helicopters and multirotor helicopters.
As we all know, Ornithopters are just cats purring.
Love the fluff!
I've got my kitty resting on my neck as I'm watching this, and I couldn't tell which sound was which for a second.
@@jakubk.584 As we all should do. Btw: I once had an ace girlfriend and know they seem to pop up everywhere. Hello there 😂
Bo approves
At eardrum breaking volume, as the tips of those wings would likely need to go supersonic.
@@ShadowDragon1848 how does that work?
No offense, but ornithopters in Dune (at least in the books) have a jet engine too for horizontal flight. They do flapping only at low speeds.
alao in the movies
There was another series of books that had ornithopters too. By a writer called Julian May.
It’s a good thing you said no offense because everything you said after that was blatantly offensive (no offense).
@@nospoon4799 have only read the incredible "many-coloured land" series. in which work is the ornithopter?
@@andrewevenson2657Don't know if this was meant to be a troll, but the guy only stated a simple fact and said nothing personally directed to cause harm to anyone. You're tweaking (much offense)
One big advantage for the ornithopter used on Arakis is that, assuming they can use some space-age-tech internal energy storage and transmission system, they can operate without air intake. And do you have any idea how horrendously bad desert air is for jet engines? Not having to get sand in your engine sounds like a huge plus to me.
just use that energy system in a helicopter then
There was a part in the book talking about how the ornithopters on Arrakis are specialized for the climate with stuff like better cooling systems and sand filters on them
@@carlosandleon it's much easier to keep sand out of a flapping thing - a rubber boot (not the foot kind, think 90s mountain bike forks) will do the job. Keeping sand out of a rotating bearing like on a helicopter is a lot harder.
@@Lolwutfordawin Not that hard though. All the Isis hiluxes still run fine
@@carlosandleon a wheel bearing is a lot different than a clutch or other light weight materials used on helicopters. Plus if a wheel bearing fails then you just pull over. If you have a critical failure on a helicopter, you better hope you can auto because if you can't. You better have a will.
The "flapping wing" motion that gives the Ornithopter it's name is technically also it's biggest 'Achilles' Heel'
while it's technically possible to create a manned ornithopter,
we simply do not have the sufficiently advanced technology and strong enough material that can withstand the high frequency flapping motion of the wings
and the insurmountable amount of aerodynamic forces that it has to endure every couple milliseconds.
It’s not that. It’s over complicated and has a number of fail points that can not have redundancies. That’s pretty much the main reason. All aircraft have to have redundancy that a secondary system can take over.
What if instead of moving the outside tips of the wings, we move the inside base. Maybe stabilize the tips with T shaped spar.
Its not made because we have things better. just like the da Vinci aerial screw - possable? maybe. but we have better so why mess with old tech?
Seems like something that a magnetic bearing or the Meissner effect of a superconductor could solve. The wing attached with a free-floating ball joint and then a ring slightly offset ring of electromagnets that turn on and of attracting a metal core inside the ring can provide the full movement of the wing along 2 axis. With the metal rod behind instead a magnet you can also rotate the wing providing angle of attack control of the wing.
@@Angel24Marin magnetic ball joints are definitely very possible but they would be very heavy unless electromagnetically powered to be strong enough for use in a manned dragonfly style ornithopter. I have a design for a strong stable single axis bearing, using passive magnets I haven't tested yet, that could function as a brushless motor as well given enough space between the two sides of the bearing and gaps in the main repellent rings, placing a stator on the internal bearing ring and the coils on the external or reverse depending on if the outer ring is the easiest. To replicate the joint system used in this video I would likely have the coils on the inside of the main Rotary, have the blade rotation control/ cancel consist of a unpowered mag bearing and two magnetic repelling rails against repelling stators on the blade itself, the amplitude control or swash plate would be a passive component of two mirrored quarters of a mag bearing with magnet and rubber edge stops, layered between the main Rotary and the rotation cancel, and an active component of an electric ram actuated swash plate, the "plate" being two parallel ring magnets repelling against the top and bottom hold-in-place ring magnets of the passive rotation cancel bearing, possibly pulling double duty with the rotation cancel repellent rails attached to it by way of the casing holding the ring magnets. For the thrust direction rotation system for vertical takeoff and low speed maneuverability a magnetic bearing brushless servo with a 135° rotation range with hard stops, so as to allow easy routing of wires for electrical power and control. 135° also allows 45° off the vertical 90 backwards thrust, this would be your thrust reversing to slow down.
If the physics of Flyout is good enough you can try positioning the blades behind each other in a certain way so that the blades can ride off of each other's vortices to create more lift. Sort of like what bee's wings do.
this is also of course what dragonflies do
fly-out can't model interactions between multiple pieces. sadly without pre made flight models, the computational difficulty gets to high for a game. uh this sounded pretentious im just trying to be helpful.
@@playyourturntodieatvgperson i didn't see it as pretentious, since the way you stated it didn't seem demeaning and gets straight to the point
@@playyourturntodieatvgperson Not pretentious. Just an intelligent explanation.
@@playyourturntodieatvgpersonyeah, precisely why I thought the "perfectly realistic aerodynamics" comment was insane, this would be sold to the military if it was perfectly accurate and consumed so little computing power.
0:11 Glad to see I'm not the only guy who nicknamed this type of orni "mantis" instead of "dragonfly"
>unlike a helicopter this thing can taxi on the ground
Helicopters can absolutely taxi on the ground. Hinds and Hips routinely taxi to runways and do rolling takeoffs, for an example.
DCS taught us so much.
@@diegomolinaf ...I've been found out
Any helicopter with wheels and variable rotor pitch can taxi while on the ground
is that a SAND the movie reference???
Cmon, it's clearly a small rocks, a photo collage reference
No it's Superset, Union, Intersection, Element of the movie (⊃ ∪ ∩ ∈)
@@alexrator7674 hehehehe :) math jokes
@@alexrator7674 *Subset with a dot (⊃ ⋃ ⋂ ⪽)
Hmm yes, a 3:00AM EST post
Goddammit man now I'm staying up for hours trying to make my own.
Edit: I actually passed out half way though. Will use the audio files to counter mild insomnia going forward.
8:00am here, perfect timing
Every comment this like gets you will do 1 blink
How do I comment on likes?
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@spaceinvaders4825 you go, "wow that's a like"
Wow that's a like
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Hello Snickers! You are a Good Kitty.
this is like porn but for responsible people
Uhh… explain, please?
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@@Jam0nToast009 no
@@jackblack5393explain or I’ll leak what happened on January 12th 2022
@@jackblack5393yes
You missed one detail from the Dune books. The ornothopter has jet engines for forward thrust at high speed and can fold the wings along the body reducing drag and allowing it to fly balistically like a rocket for very high speed dashes. I'd love to see a follow up design with jets added.
I wonder if one could recreate the Harkonnen Command-ornithopter from the second movie. I really liked the unconventional look of that one.
A sort of big ball-shaped superheavy ornithopter, in the role of an armored gunship.
There was an Ornithopter that was gonna be made by the french in the 30s called the Riout 102T Alérion. Blew up during wind tunnel testing and was canceled.
The prototype version archive flight tho
he talked about it in the video 💀
Cheers m8. That thing is so lovely in flight, and the Dune MS paint kills me.
I am gonna be pedantic and correct you that he didn't use MS Paint, but GIMP
@@kacperkonieczny7333 Award for the most useless comment in this section for the past day
I've known for a long time that angled counter rotating joints produces the ornithopter flapping motion, since the Besiege days. But a collective joint to control the throttle without changing the RPM? That's just genius, will definitely try that in all the games I play now
I’m not sure if I should be more impressed with you or the game itself for the fact that you managed to not only get this working but working this well.
wonderful, love the video
It also seems that by spending a lot of time tinkering with the design of the mechanism you unintentionally performed a technique whose name i forgot, where right before going to sleep you focus on something really hard so that it appears in your dream or your brain subconsciously performs problem solving regarding that topic. Some people who mastered that technique claim to be able to enter lucid dreams on command to continue studying or working on whatever it is they were struggling with.
I wish i could link you an article but I cannot recall the name of this phenomenon.
Either way, great build and video, I'd love to see a luxury civillian version too.
Lucid Dreaming?
@@usnlynn79 lucid dreaming is when you realize, that you’re in a dream, and be able to interact with your dream, instead of having it move along like a movie.
I either don't dream or don't remember them, only very rarely.
Is this a known condition too?
Huh, after a long night of studying and giving up because I just didn't get it I went to sleep and when I woke up it just all clicked and I got the subject matter as if I knew it for years
@@Vlamyncksken Your brain literally does file cleaning and debugging if you have good sleep, so that's where all the advice against cramming at the expense of sleep comes from
Mechanic that maintains that thing is damned good... has it purring like a kitten.
micro fractures IRL: that's a nice wing you have there. be a shame if something were to happen to it.
Well there are a lot more wings, arguably this is less of a problem than in a normal plane. If you lose 1 wing on this system it's probably still very possible to do an emergency landing relatively safely.
IRL you'd probably need a membrane wing that is more like a lattice that can deform/fold in a fixed way, reducing stresses. That's what people get wrong about wings....bug wings have all those joints in them not just for strength, but also to have a controllable way of deforming under stress. An ornithopter wing would need to take these same considerations of being able to deform under stress, rather than to be made out of a solid material that focuses on just handling the stresses. It'd also be possible to create a wing that can rapidly open holes in itself, reducing drag, thus reducing stress. It wouldn't even be particularly difficult, you'd just need a hole and a rotating mechanism that spins like a fidget spinner, synced with the beats of the wing. Put those all over the wing, and you could reduce the drag profile of the wing on the up stroke by nearly half, with the holes closing up on the down stroke. That can remove the need to create any kind of rapid rotation of the wings for the up stroke, allowing for a fixed wing angle. From there you can use small control fans for finer directional thrust.
The biggest issue with this design in terms of making it IRL is that I don’t think there is a material that can exist that you could make the wings out of. This design only works for things like dragonflies or humming birds because they are small. When you scale things up, the volume scales exponentially, and with more volume comes more mass, and with more mass the laws of momentum and inertia become a lot more important. Little creatures have wings so light that they can flap that fast without the momentum of the wings ripping them apart. On top of that, when you scale up that drastically, you may even need to account for the speed of sound of the wing’s material. You can only propagate a motion through an object at the speed of sound for that object. If you had a steel pole a light year long, and moved one end, it would take 58,783 years for the other end of the pole to move. Obviously that’s an extreme example, but the speed of sound is so fast that at the scale of a creature’s wing, it may as well be instant. Scale it up a few hundred times though, and now you may have to worry about the speed of sound of your wing material. Not to mention that repeated motion may cause resonant frequencies to tear apart the wings, the aerodynamics of turbulence generated are totally different on that scale, and I’m sure there is even more to consider.
Long story short, I don’t think it is possible for us to create a material that is strong enough to move like that at that scale. Not even just strong and light enough, but I mean strong enough period. To hell with weight, build it out of the strongest nano carbon tubes or whatever fancy metal alloy you want to build them out of, and I think it’ll break. However if someone happens to do the math and finds that some material would work, please let me know cause that’s be intriguing.
Well there were much bugger dragonflies in the past so maybe this could still be used to for example replace the current quad rotor fpv drones.
@@AdamSchadow well yeah, a drone is substantially smaller than a full sized aircraft. Like I said that volume is exponential, so a drone would be entirely feasible. I’m just talking about the full sized aircraft he designed in his video.
the largest flying animal ever discovered had a wingspan of 11 metres so it should be able to scale up enough to hold 1 person.
@@Zach476 I wasn’t implying flapping wings cannot support the weight of a person, I was explaining that a material does not exist that allows wings of that size to beat 30+ times a second without ripping itself apart.
The speed of sound only matters when you're talking about a rotating propeller. A flapping propeller would be different. It would of course have issues with air compression and drag at high speeds, and probably even create sonic booms. The real problem is they are horribly inefficient at generating thrust, and it's an inherent feature of the design. We simply have better and more reliable ways. For tiny drones, you could use the elasticity of a material to increase and improve its thrust characteristics, especially if you can also increase and decrease the length of the wing rapidly on the up and down strokes. So on the up strokes, the wing would reduce in length, decreasing its drag, and on the down strokes it would stretch back out again, increasing its lift.
Its not that the concept of the Ornithopter isn't sound- its just that sound is so loud it blows eardrums open- and Dragonflys are scary.
Also, we've known this since the science fiction novels of the 50s.
What if instead of moving the outside tips of the wings, we move the inside base. Maybe stabilize the tips with T shaped spar.
It's crazy when you dream of flyout
"games" like these do this to you lol. happenned to me when i was binging KSP, i would dream of building spaceships and orbital trajectories xD
That audio footage playing in Portuguese really caught me off-guard lol
I hope
Your cat recovers
I just realized your channel is named after a starburst galaxy Messier 82
Aw poor Snickers, I hope she's comfortable for the remainder of her life.
Maybe you can convince people to build a real life remote controlled version of it. Btw why not use something more bionic than standard conventional rotating motors --- something more like muscles ---- probably all speculation but the first thing which came to mind when hearing about the broken wings was that the wings could be somekind of foil or elastic material that gets its strength by pressure (probably air pressure) and loses its pressure when the stress is to high ----something like the wings can be repressurized and become hard again --- as for now I see there room for improvements ((btw butterflies pump their wings up after hatching --- so that's probably why I came up with it))
Alot of things are possible, but many suffer from impracticality. Like mechs, probably the biggest one might ever get (assuming power issues are resolved/disregarded) would probably be akin to titanfall, but smaller being more like super exoskeletons. And even that size comes with a lot of drawbacks and that's considering more civilian uses before even thinking of any kind of frontline operation. Still cool to see these things as feasible, even if impractical. Maintenance on that Ornithopter would get the loon bins full in record time I bet.
I love that these vids keep getting more and funnier subtle edits. It gives it a Game Theory type funny-scientific vibe that I enjoy a lot. Keep up the good work🗿
Gosh i love all these attack ornithopters design. I assume you've already seen War Thunder's April's Fools TOPTER?
A correct Ornithopter doesn't flap like that. Its not a vertical wobbling motion. You're close using a collective control though. You need a continuously pivoting joint at the equivalent to a birds humerus. The wing sweeps "forward" quickly at a low AoA, generating lift. At the end of the forward sweep the AoA is rapidly increased as it starts its rearward motion, paddling the air down and back to generate forward thrust with some vertical component. Generally you would generally have it sweep "down" and "back" at the same time since you want to correlate the direction of motion to the continuously variable AoA, The rearward speed and throw needs to be scaled with True Air Speed.
Main problem would be wear and tear on the mechanisms. Helicopters have a lot of wear and tear. I estimate this wil be 10 times worse withan ornithopter.
Atreidies crew chiefs when they find out that their fleet of aircraft with 800 million moving parts and carefully tuned fully analog systems are getting shipped to planet sand-hell, home of the sand:
One of the biggest problems in reality would be vibration, but I wonder if you could shape the tail as a bell tuned to the frequency the blades put out so it'd cancel out the vibrations