I've brought a few old batteries back to life. That battery acid was really dirty, sometimes sludge will settle to the bottom of the battery and create a short circuit which can discharge the battery internally. I usually charge the battery as much as I can, then shake it to mix the sludge with the water / acid , then drain and discard the old acid. I then fill the battery half full of distilled water and shake it up again, repeating this process until the water is clear. I then fill the battery with distilled water and charge on high for a few hours, dump the water one last time, then fill the battery with fresh acid that I purchase from an auto parts store. I then slow charge the battery for a couple of days. This method has often worked for me.
@The Inquisitive mind I first clean the cells with water then i clean the plates with baking soda solution until i see no reaction in the cells ( 2 to 3 times ).I wash one time with tap water and one with deionised water . I fill the cells with new electrolite solution ( the old one always is not so strong we need , so i use it for cleaning ).
After draining it (super dirty), i would get some baking soda water and CAREFULLY fill each cell, close it and CAREFULLY SHAKE IT and empty it. Repeat until you get that gunk out and off the plates. Then, instead of putting the old acid back, heat up a quart of distilled water and mix in about 150mL (2/3 cup) epsom salt and put THAT in. THEN try it. Plate cleaning is 'Super Necessary' on that battery.
Hi My Placehouse. I know you've got some heat from some commentors about the possibility of a battery explosion but I guess for anyone who has never experienced one, including most people seeing this and other similar videos, they may not quiet understand what that means. I survived one on my boat. It went off like a hand grenade when I attempted to start the boat. I was blown out of my seat, sprayed with acid and showered with shards of plastic casing some of which embedded in my back. There was smoke but no fire. I was disoriented, burnt from acid, and suffering pain from injuries. With no battery I could not radio for coastguard help. My cellphone must have blown over the side because I never found it. It took me some time to get over the immediate shock but it was another hour or so before I successfully waved down another boat for help. Fortunately, my back was turned to the battery otherwise I could have lost my sight. It was also luck that my injuries did not involve severed arteries. Cause of explosion was most likely, low acid level from overcharging and possibly a cracked post from the subsequent swelling of the battery. As soon as the current went through the post on engine start, it sparked across the post crack and exploded the hydrogen filled case. All lead acid batteries generate hydrogen gas. That's what they do. Sparks either in or near the battery, however they are created, can and will result in an explosion with possibly devastating consequences. I never want to experience that again and I sure don't wish it on anyone else. So everyone, please be careful with these video's. They give some good ideas and we all appreciate the efforts made to present these processes to us, but don't follow them blindly. Do your research before trying this at home !
The wife would be awful mad if she's one that gets into a dry tub, and then runs the water, and if there was a bit of acid left on the bottom of the tub from the battery job: "Randy.y.........I nee.eed to talk with you..o..ou!" Randy: "Why are you holding that bat, dear? You don't play ball??"
I find that dropping it on the floor and kicking the shit out of it revives a dead cell sometimes. Done it to my last 2 leisure batteries last year and they like new now. They used to charge to 12.6 then drop after 5 minutes to 10.8. I think a piece of lead shorted the cell out touching the neg and positive plates
Hi Andrew Quigley Thank You very much! interesting approach,, the physical movement might do the trick, and as the battery is just trach,, nothing lost :-) Thank you for watching! :-)
I haven't had luck with reconditioning batteries. If you take the whole top off the battery? You Will see most of the plates get warped and touch. Plates are thin and very fragile. Cheers from Australia
I agree. By way of comparison, deep cycle batteries have much heavier plates and I would think bringing them back to life might have more success. Obviously, the heavier the battery, the more lead it has, the more likely the plates are less likely to warp.
Dude, I just did this the other day. I found the best way to filter the acid is to leave it sit for a day or so, then filter it through a coffee filter. This way most of the dirt settles to the bottom. The acid was almost crystal clear after filtering it this way.
Let it settle for a day and then pour off the clear stuff that rises to the top into your filter. Also, when you're rinsing out the battery rock it back and forth and attempt to get the broken down lead out of the bottom where it might be shorting the plates. Then rinse and repeat a few times. That black gunk is broken down lead and needs to be recycled. You could try turning a battery like this into an alum battery. I've used alum batteries with a dead cell to run lights and things that are less than 12 volts. For example a 10 volt battery will be less than ten volts once converted to Alum and can be used for some 9 volt devices and many 9 volt and less devices if you use a buck converter to reduce the voltage to the voltage of the device you're trying to run. Note: if you try to run things that draw a lot of power on an alum battery with a dead cell you will have to check the water level a lot because the dead cell will go dry much faster than a good cell. For low amp draw like LED lights you won't have to check the water level as often. Lead acid batteries converted to alum are actually powerful batteries. They can be discharged virtually to zero volts without major harm to the battery, whereas a lead acid battery can only be discharged about 50 percent. They discharge differently than a lead acid battery. More like a NiCad battery but without the "memory" issues. Also, alum batteries don't like to sit idle for long periods of time. They like to be cycled. I started a Facebook group a few years ago to discuss alum batteries and similar topics. I ended up expending it into a diy / self-reliance group. I love discussing this stuff and would love to see a discussion community develop surrounding the alum battery and other similar DIY technologies. facebook.com/groups/diy.sustainable.self.reliance
Lessons to learn ...and AVOID ! Wear protective gloves, goggles and old clothing which will be not be worn except for garage use later. You were shorting the battery at eye level RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE !. Batteries give off explosive gasses and that hot wire and sparks could have exploded the battery. Draining and filtering OLD acid does not help. If you rinsed out the battery with distilled water and added FRESH ACID ( electrolyte )then it may have charged better but if the plates are "sulphated " then a "DESULPHATION / charge " would help to clean the lead plates. J K
Since you already drained the sulphuric acid out it is very possible to CONVERT the lead-acid info a ALUM batterie ! just replace the acid with a solution of water and Calcium Aluminium Sulfate (150 gr in 1 liter water) , this wil convert the batterie permanently in one witch will give lower CCA (cold cranking amps) and also a nominal voltage of around 12.00 volt fully charged but wil last for many years without sulphating again! Also you can discharge these batteries till a lower voltage than a lead acid without doing them any harm, in practice the working range is between 9 and 12 volts even lower is not a real problem except the recharging time is getting longer.... best usage for a ALUM batteries is NOT to crank your car, but ideal for solar-deep-cycle use, for instance LED lighting and to power your HAM radio etc, etc. best way to charge these is with a true PULSE charger for example a BEDINI style charger , the charcing voltage can be taken high until 15.3 volts after that the voltage will drop to about 12,2 volts without a load fresh from the charger, as soon as you draw power from the batterie it wil drop to around 11 volts, at that time the batteries is considered about 50 percent discharged, normally with a lead acid based chemistry you must STOP and recharge the batt, with a ALUM you can discharge much deeper till say 80 percent without damage! The only thing is that the battery can freeze when used outside in very cold weather ,so for automotive use this is not so ideal for the northern country’s, but for stationary use (solar, electronics, backup, etc) used inside this is no problem any whey. try it , i think you will be amazed at the longevity of this type of battery’s. one more thing: please expose of the no longer needed old ACID in a responsible way!
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I think That there is always a critical issue with the acid filter and Epson salt battery videos. The acid is diluted as you are certain to loose some in transfers and you can never get all the rinse water out. In the Epson salt techniques, there is no way to get the acid concentration in the narrow range you need for proper function.
So I have re-conditioned quite a few 12V batteries, even fixed a dead cell in a few of them, I'll let you in on a little secret. There's only about 30% acid in car batteries. Easily neutralized with a liberal amount of baking soda. Once you drain the electrolytes from the cells, I recommend a water and baking soda solution be poured into the cells, and then you should go bowling with the battery for a few minutes. If you have a gentle hill to roll them down even better. Make sure no rocks or trees are around to damage the lead posts. After bowling, dump out the baking soda solution and give it a rinse with DISTILLED or PURIFIED water only, the less contaminants the better. When you've rinsed the battery thoroughly, it's time to fill it with a new electrolyte. My secret formula is 1lb pure Epsom salt and 1 gallon distilled water. Mix together while distilled water is warm or hot to dissolve the salt fully. Let cool to room temperature, and fill cells until plates are completely covered. Charge overnight, and check voltage in the morning. If any don't hold at least 12V, you may need to go bowling some more, or cycle it with a load/charge cycle for a few hours, or over-charge it for a little while. Careful overcharging the battery though, as the batteries CAN explode if charged too much. I recommend a smart charger as well, one that will detect faulty batteries so you don't waste time charging a dead cell only to have to throw it around again and charge it all over. I'll post a video soon of bringing a battery back to life, I've recently acquired 2 that I have yet to do anything with. You'll get to see it from start to finish
A battery has enough amps in it to kill you, and volts. Your skin resistance is what saves you from being shocked, but it can still happen if you don't know what you're doing. Id rather you have the right info and be safe about it, it helps the environment too
Dude, I'm all for DIY stuff but why would you wash it out into a tub and down into a public drain? That lead is toxic and goes back into the environment.
Hi lucidbarrier Thank You very much! The water is cleaned at a treatment plant,,, before it is released back out. Please be mindful of, that lead is digged up from the ground. But It is not good for us. Thank you for watching! :-)
very little lead will come off from the cells, its a solid its not gonna dissolve in water. Very little if any lead went into the water. The city water already has lead so whats the difference anyways use a filter.
@@chriss4365 A battery has acid & lead. That's it. What do you suppose that gunk is gonna be? It's called lead sulfate. And just because your water is going to a treatment plant doesn't mean the plant is equipped to treat this chemical. There's a reason why this is not just immoral but ILLEGAL!
Hi @charlesmasey6815 Thank You very much! 'That was a bit of a risky move,, not saying that it would not have a chance,, it might! Thank you for watching! :-)
@@MyPlayHouse Not sure what but something in your video that kept drag me to the end of video 😐😐🙃 You are not expressing but you have high level humor. Keep it bro 👍
I poured the acid out of my battery. I then cut the cells out. melted the lead and boiled the water out of the sulfuric acid. what were you trying to accomplish with washing out the acid from your battery? just so you know, if you were trying to recharge the battery use distilled water. the chlorine and sulfuric acid don't like each other.
HI I thought the lead plates might be shorted. I accomplish nothing, or almost nothing! this did not work, no need to try that again! so a little something :-) Thank you for watching! :-)
Ahhh. Okay. I tested with a good battery, drained the sulfuric acid and water, refilled with regular tap water and recharged. I have drained the battery 2 times and tested. Even using chlorinated water I am holding a full charge. It was just a test, I am concentrating sulfuric acid and collecting the lead for casting bullets. The acid is for refining gold and silver. I was just wondering what you were trying to accomplish.
you shouldn't put back the old fluid, use distilled water with added baking soda on it. pour in to your cells to clean all of your plates inside the cell, and drain again. repeat the process until the fluid is clear. then dissolve an Epson Salt to distilled water while you stir under low fire setting of your burner, set aside to cool down. then charge for about 24- 36hrs. in 2amps. setting without covering the battery. you can test the battery voltage before charging or you can check every 12 hrs., check on youtube video for measurement. there's a lot of videos about this and always safety first.
ade sag it's just not so easy man, to put the baking soda or powder in the battery cells. Only the practicals give the right results. What we think we say is not always correct. The quantity of the much baking soda can damage the cells 100% .I have the practical proofs too.
Thanks fir video, how much % acid should have battery. I empty my battery acid, i buy it new but i dont know should be only acid all batery or need destilert water. Regards
You have to remove the water from the accid. What I do I put the accid in the slow cooker outside overnight with no lid. Than put it back to the battery. You did not changed the coffee filter, it would be faster filtering out the slush.
Interesting. So basically you boil off the water, huh? I thought about that, but haven't done the research yet. Outside seems to be a good idea though, since sulfur and other fumes aren't really something you want to breath. I'm guessing that freezing might also work.
Don't throw away the battery, keep charging the battery without covering the holes on the battery top for the acid to react better. you need to keep charging the battery 48 hours on 10 amps slow charge to wake up the defective cells. it is such a large battery so continue charging the battery, give it longer time to work. You are doing well, I enjoyed watching your video. It will work
Thats an acid meater . Its only tells you if you the right amouth of acid . In batterys its 70% water and the rest is acid . So you sucking up water with the acid at lest your are filtering it to get the crap out of the battery .
Some of the Sulfuric acid has turned into Lead Sulfate and not returning back to Sulfuric acid... Do you need to Attempt to charge the batteries first before this procedure to revert some of the composition back to acid so you can extract the majority back?
what material do you use to filter sulfuric acid because I have always known that sulfuric acid dissolves most organic stuff so what do you use to filter the acid?
I have had incredibly good success in revitalizing batteries with MgSO4 (epsom salt) You make a slurry with the salt and distilled water. Spoon a tablespoon in each cell... replace caps and invert and shake. Turn back right side up and top off cells with distilled water. I needed to charge it over an hour or two but RAPIDLY discharge it. I used two halogen headlights to do this. The first cycle it would discharge in 2 minutes. The second cycle it lasted 7 minutes. The 3rd cycle it took 18 minutes. The 4th cycle it would take 90 minutes to discharge. This was on a battery that was dead for 4-5 years and in bad shape. I believe the theory is to remove the coating that developed on the plates. Give it a try and you will be surprised. Cheers
How exactly did you discharge it? I'm having a heck of a time figuring out how to discharge mine. It's in my garage. I've attached a household lamp to it. One wire to each terminal and it won't light the bulb.
Sulfuric acid does not get 'old'. Total waste of money replacing it. Just filter it, but with a better set up than show here, so it is done in one hit. The Epsom salts simply naturalizes the remaining acid inside the battery. It's only benefit is that the foaming reaction helps dislodge any loose lead sulfate sludge. The down side is it can just as easily dislodge lead oxide from the plates and cause a short. Shorts can be removed by giving the battery a blow, BUT these can just as easily make new shorts. You are more likely to have luck hitting the battery if you do it before removing the acid so it can cushion the plates. Some sort of mechanical vibration is probably better than than actual blow.
you cant just rinse it you have to clean the lead plates to remove tarnish so the electrons can flow again that's why they stop working. I have a 4 year old car battery and the fluid is still clear so no idea why your is so dark. You could of used a bunch of filters too to catch more junk. You have to charge the battery a long time after restoring it to check it then wait a day and see what the voltage drop is.
always good to make sparks near a battery that has just been unhooked from the charger seconds ago.. you have never seen the contents of a battery flying into your face
Acid is way better in films :-) in real life it stings, and start to hurt, and you wach it off and it's gone. There are way worse acid, but battery acid is about that level... don't get it in your eyes.. I have not tried that,, but would not recommend trying.
Short circuiting a battery on a shelf full of chemicals is a good way to cause an explosion . Baking Soda neutralizes battery acid for disposal . You need an old school tool used in rejuvenation of batteries called a hydrometer . You reused old acid so you need to know the battery acid level in the battery acid . Example ; When using new battery acid , you don't use 100% acid . The general fill is 35% acid and the rest of the cell is filled with distilled water only . You never ever put regular water inside a battery . There's heavy metals in public water . This public water having metals causes the cell to short circuit releasing any charge within . In short summary , you actually killed this battery . To properly Shock the battery you need a battery booster that has a 200amp boost setting and a manual booster , never use the new electronic boosters , they won't work . The old manual boosters usually have a timer on them but don't rely on the timer because the timers usually don't work correctly . You can usually find one for around $150 U.S.D. Never apply a chargers clamps while charger is on . Place clamps and then turn on charger . These micro sparks are known to cause explosion . A cell isn't considered dead among the cells unless you have a voltage of 10v. Each battery cell holds around 2volts . That battery had plenty of life left . Hope this finds you well .
@@MyPlayHouse If the battery had a dead cell , it would have read 10volts , not 12volts . Each hole is 2volts . You cannot tell completely if a cell is dead or not unless you test that cell with a hydrometer . A hydrometer shows you if the correct acid level is in the cell . What you're calling a dead cell is almost never a dead cell . Its only build up of corrosion between plates inside . This is easily removed by shocking the battery with a 200amp battery booster . You run the booster for 15minutes and then wait for 1 hour to let booster cool down . you do this until the amp meter comes up to the Batterys cold cranking amp rating ... That little meter is $25 on Amazon .. You must understand only 35% acid goes in each cell and rest is distilled water . So over time many people add more and more distilled water . this weakens the acids ability to hold a charge . this is what a hydrometer measures and tells you if the acid level versus distilled water is within range for the acid to hold the charge . The cell is made up of only flat lead plates inside . its like staking quarters 1/4" apart but once the corrosion builds between the two plates then there's no charging the acid . This corrosion is just like the corrosion that builds up on the top of the terminals that we can physically scrub off but inside it needs big shock with a 200 amp battery booster and it will all come off and be like new again .. It does cost a little bit to get the stuff to do what I speak of but pays itself back when you fix only one battery ... $9.00- hydrometer $145- 200amp battery booster $25- amp meter ... People will give you their old batteries often or sell them very cheap to get rid of them .. So you can build a battery bank for very little money . A battery is nothing more than an electrolysis process ... A good way to see it visually is to see how they make the hydrogen set ups for cars or the colloidal silver process ... These all use electrolysis but you can see how the others are reacting because people make those usually in clear jars ... I'm very glad you haven't glowed yourself up making sparks in your play house ..
Please be aware of the amounts of comments we get as TH-camrs,, keep comments short and to the point. I guess you did not see the video before this one : th-cam.com/video/7hTsZFttDgU/w-d-xo.html
@@MyPlayHouse Okay , I watched the other video . I'm sorry if my post is long , I'm really trying to help you . There's a lot to try to explain but is simple after you understand . 1st I will say that was a perfectly good battery . 2nd you need a good hydrometer that tells percentage of acid . the one you used in other video didn't have percentage readings . 3rd you don't seem to understand how your battery works . There is almost never an actual Bad Cell . For example , you said in other video Cell #2 .... Okay ; that ONLY means the electrolytes ( battery acid ) isn't able to keep its charge . Its like oil in car loosing its viscosity and turning to black water , battery acid looses its ability to keep charge . Your charge is kept in the liquid , not the lead plates inside . So you do not put full battery acid inside cell , this will not work , it will not hold charge . you must use 35% acid and fill 65% distilled water . Another time a cell won't hold its charge is when someone has put to much battery acid or has added to much distilled water . I'm excited to see someone else rebuild a battery and use for power . This is a great thing .... This is what I do so I like to help . I know this battery may be gone but you can still do this and save so much money . We have saved hundreds of dollars rebuilding Batterys for our solar power . We haven't seen a battery we cannot bring back to full life yet ... Hope this finds you well Edit ; Here ; I found a very good video of how to bring battery back ..... th-cam.com/video/TYXx70MqJ-0/w-d-xo.html
Why you dont used the strange syringe with which you picked acid from red bucket to coffee jar ?That thing is invented to meassure electrolyte density,.. And If you missin 2,1 of voltage that proves thht one cell is bad... 12,8 Volts / 6 cells = 2,13 Volts each. If you had 10,6 one cell is bad,...
@@MyPlayHouse Having around 10v on the battery means a completely dead cell - Lead plate broken or shorted. Nothing can be done for that apart from sending it to the battery rebuilders in india/pakisan. However a weak cell would be fixable through high voltage or chemicals. Playing with the electrolyte is not useful because a lot of the acid got converted into lead sulphate. If they are converted back to acid later, it would mess up the chemical balance of the replacement electrolyte.
Iv been wonder g about flushing the batteries Iv been topping off and try to bring back some old deep cycle batteries Down are coming back with this noco Charger
@@MyPlayHouse Iv topped off with distilled water and been charging noco genius 2 amp charger it is bringing some back Some it brings back voltage but not cold cranking amps
Drain the battery suspended upside down over the backyard crabgrass and use the water hose nozzle to clean out all unwanted stuff while its upside down.
Maybe charge battery at 20 volts 1 amp for 72 hours after refilling the acid but putting it back into the battery might work but for 24 hours be very careful when doing this as you know the batteries will gas in a release gases when charging and when using the extremely careful with this the process.
I use batteries like this for my electric scooter to get around I have solar panels and solar panels come with the minerals that build up on the plate and reduce the expectancy and keep the battery strong when I use it may take a long time but my charger for my show tired than normal charge and it takes a long time to cook Epsom salt but I use epsom salt and lemon juice at the breakdown the crystals of soft uric acid and try to break the film on the plates that prevent electric activity to increase the electrical connectivity and usually that works.
WAY too many replies here. If anyone gets around to reading this.. some people say to replace electrolyte (sulfuric acid?) some say to use epsom salt and distilled water. How can they both work?
The real problem is in your charging method. you need to zap the battery with a larger current over and over. on and off you might say. or Pulse charging. look up pulse chargers that the military use. also good pdf files on google will lead you in the right direction.
Absolutely nothing,, getting acid in your eyes, you might have to go to the emergency room. Getting it on your hands,, it stings,, but washes right off. We learn that in physics in school. You did not know this ?
Since when do we completly seal battery cells with tape so it cannot breathe during charging?What happened to the original cell caps?Are they gone down in the tub drain?
Hi Patricia Pesant The batteries do not actually breathe,, they vent, only gas leaving. This battery did not have "caps" it´s a maintenance free battery that I tried to fix. Thank you for watching! :-)
I think he said something about drilling through the plastic cover. It's a low maintenance battery. But wait, that's a heck of a lot of maintenance, drilling holes and such, and explaining the missing enamel in the bathtub to his Mrs.! Those old tubs of that size are hard to find anymore....
MY PLAYHOUSE ADD A MIXTURE OF EPSOM SALT AND DISTILLED WATER, 1 GALLON TO 1POUND OF EPSOM SALT., CHARGE AND DISCHARGE 5 TIMES, THEN TEST WITH A CCA TESTER.
Do not short a battery with wire unless you want to kill it completely watch some other videos how to restore a battery IF your battery it is not completely garbage and please get some gloves
You're absolutely right. As the battery is discharged or charged, the lead changes states. There is lead, lead oxides, and lead sulfates. Some sticks to the plates (grids), which you want. Some falls to the bottom, which won't be useful again. Shorting the battery not only causes the normal discharge reaction, but generates a lot of heat. That can force the cells to swell and break, warp the plates, and damage the separator between the plates. You won't burn off lead that may be shorting some plates. That can't happen until the liquid acid has boiled off. Needless to say, you don't want that happening either. It might melt a little if it's far enough above the acid level, but that would also mean the acid is too low. The cleaning cycle could theoretically make a mostly dead battery kind of work, but the problem is usually the fact that the plates have degraded. The only fix for that is to recast the plates (grids), and refill the holes with the correct lead paste and charge it. The physics and chemistry is really interesting. I only found this video because I was looking for a better method to clean the lead out of the acid for new batteries. Well, at least I see the acid didn't destroy the coffee filter. :)
Your right, the first sign of high amp draw would have eliminated it as a candidate for the rare but possible occurrence of low draw sulfation. This is rare and was evident immediately this was not the case. Look up some info on chemistry and metal oxidation if your looking for a remedy.
And this guy reads and replies to all his comments :-) tap water is more clean than most bottled water here. Yes shorting the battery can help if one of the cells is shorted, running a high current through it,, can in some few cases "burn" that away. Yes 11 minutes,, it did not take me longer to realise that the experiments I had done ,, did not help,, battery still broken. Time to move on.
Hay man good video ,I have a battery that was in my car that is only one year old and it will crank over the engine very lazy I think it the cranking amps .how can I restore this battery ? thanks man
Well if you want to repair a battery you should use NEW sulfuric acid 35% concentrated. Then, look for the terminals, if they are totally corroded, you can try to find new lead terminals, but I have no idea where you could find it. Anyway, if you are skillful enough you can just make them by casting lead in a plate format, like a "net." You will see how it is when you open it up, or you can check on youtube. Ah and if it's totally corroded and you don't want to change your lead terminals just throw your battery in the garbage... Don't forget to destroy the acid and the lead before throwing it in the garbage!!!!!!!!!
Y'all are very close to the industry secret. I would have left a better comment had he not flushed all that oxidized lead "dirt" down the drain. (Hint hint) Hope he don't live near me. If you are gonna attempt this stuff be responsible about it.
Iv been rebuilding battery's for years. Imagine if I have been doing that all the while, what kind of harm would I be putting others in? Anyway don't mean to chew you out. Still have the battery? Want some tips? Your so close actually.
It is not always about the money,, It is a bit like asking a mountain climber, why he does not just go around :-) I like to fix things,, even if i throw them out afterwards. it's the journey, more than the end results.
Some say that it is "just impossible" to bring batteries back from the dead but, I think NOT. It's a simple matter of chemistry, IF there is enough lead metal left then the battery can be brought back. So before we try to go around replacing lead metal plates in batteries it may be better to first try to understand something about typical lead acid batteries and how they deteriorate: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automotive_battery#Use_and_maintenance So the question becomes how can we remove lead sulfate from the battery plates? There are several methods: nautarch.tamu.edu/CRL/conservationmanual/File14.htm 10% Hydrochloric Acid, might work 5% EDTA solution ELECTROLYTIC REDUCTION CLEANING and of course removing the plates and sanding or grinding away the lead sulfate. Also, where exactly does the Lead go? Clearly mass must be conserved, could it be possible to recover the lead and recast it in a mold?
I think this dude is eating some acid, to dodo some of the shit he is doing, I believe he probley dopped to hits about 10 min before shooting the video. I would shoot this video if I didnt need my phone so Bad.😂😂🤣🤣😁💯
Hi Dan Banovich I do get this question from time to time, so I have added it to my F.A.Q. that you can check out under the "about" tab here on my channel. I give a longer answer there. Thank you for watching! :-)
Hi Nikolaos Fanourakis Funny,,Thank You very much! Hope you got out of the video, that this was not the way to go,, if so you did learn something,, hope you liked the video :-) Thank you for watching! :-)
hahahahahahaha... Oh man thanks I needed that.. Hey next time..brew the sludge with the coffee machine on.. that oughtha do it :). German huh..Yah sure... hahahahahahahaha ahh fuck.. too funny
Actually try flushing the old acid out of the battery with baking soda/h20 mix, then refill each cell with new electrolyte 20/80 Epsom salt + distilled water mix, then cycle charge battery a few times. Should bring it back from the dead of not totally kaput. Worth a shot you're half way there.. good luck :)
actually , i was going to comment a similar remark ; that this was FUN to watch, ha,ga ; but didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings....particularly enjoyed the quiet " my wife won't .like this"........
I've brought a few old batteries back to life. That battery acid was really dirty, sometimes sludge will settle to the bottom of the battery and create a short circuit which can discharge the battery internally. I usually charge the battery as much as I can, then shake it to mix the sludge with the water / acid , then drain and discard the old acid.
I then fill the battery half full of distilled water and shake it up again, repeating this process until the water is clear. I then fill the battery with distilled water and charge on high for a few hours, dump the water one last time, then fill the battery with fresh acid that I purchase from an auto parts store. I then slow charge the battery for a couple of days. This method has often worked for me.
Hi Bruce Johnson
Thank You very much!
Thank you for watching! :-)
How
@The Inquisitive mind I first clean the cells with water then i clean the plates with baking soda solution until i see no reaction in the cells ( 2 to 3 times ).I wash one time with tap water and one with deionised water . I fill the cells with new electrolite solution ( the old one always is not so strong we need , so i use it for cleaning ).
What is the percentage of distil and acid to fill
@@ranjanreddy6816 %80 Distill water , %20 Acid
After draining it (super dirty), i would get some baking soda water and CAREFULLY fill each cell, close it and CAREFULLY SHAKE IT and empty it. Repeat until you get that gunk out and off the plates. Then, instead of putting the old acid back, heat up a quart of distilled water and mix in about 150mL (2/3 cup) epsom salt and put THAT in. THEN try it. Plate cleaning is 'Super Necessary' on that battery.
Hi Shade Tree Professor
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
Hi My Placehouse. I know you've got some heat from some commentors about the possibility of a battery explosion but I guess for anyone who has never experienced one, including most people seeing this and other similar videos, they may not quiet understand what that means. I survived one on my boat. It went off like a hand grenade when I attempted to start the boat. I was blown out of my seat, sprayed with acid and showered with shards of plastic casing some of which embedded in my back. There was smoke but no fire. I was disoriented, burnt from acid, and suffering pain from injuries. With no battery I could not radio for coastguard help. My cellphone must have blown over the side because I never found it. It took me some time to get over the immediate shock but it was another hour or so before I successfully waved down another boat for help. Fortunately, my back was turned to the battery otherwise I could have lost my sight. It was also luck that my injuries did not involve severed arteries.
Cause of explosion was most likely, low acid level from overcharging and possibly a cracked post from the subsequent swelling of the battery. As soon as the current went through the post on engine start, it sparked across the post crack and exploded the hydrogen filled case.
All lead acid batteries generate hydrogen gas. That's what they do. Sparks either in or near the battery, however they are created, can and will result in an explosion with possibly devastating consequences. I never want to experience that again and I sure don't wish it on anyone else. So everyone, please be careful with these video's. They give some good ideas and we all appreciate the efforts made to present these processes to us, but don't follow them blindly. Do your research before trying this at home !
Never had anything like that happen to me.
The wife would be awful mad if she's one that gets into a dry tub, and then runs the water, and if there was a bit of acid left on the bottom of the tub from the battery job: "Randy.y.........I nee.eed to talk with you..o..ou!" Randy: "Why are you holding that bat, dear? You don't play ball??"
Us poor oppressed men :-)
I find that dropping it on the floor and kicking the shit out of it revives a dead cell sometimes. Done it to my last 2 leisure batteries last year and they like new now. They used to charge to 12.6 then drop after 5 minutes to 10.8. I think a piece of lead shorted the cell out touching the neg and positive plates
Hi Andrew Quigley
Thank You very much! interesting approach,, the physical movement might do the trick, and as the battery is just trach,, nothing lost :-)
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gives new meaning to a "drop test" (load test)
I haven't had luck with reconditioning batteries. If you take the whole top off the battery? You Will see most of the plates get warped and touch. Plates are thin and very fragile. Cheers from Australia
Hi Dragan
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Thank you for watching! :-)
I agree. By way of comparison, deep cycle batteries have much heavier plates and I would think bringing them back to life might have more success. Obviously, the heavier the battery, the more lead it has, the more likely the plates are less likely to warp.
Dude, I just did this the other day. I found the best way to filter the acid is to leave it sit for a day or so, then filter it through a coffee filter. This way most of the dirt settles to the bottom. The acid was almost crystal clear after filtering it this way.
Hi fabio40
Thank You very much! did you have better results than my ? glad you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
Let it settle for a day and then pour off the clear stuff that rises to the top into your filter. Also, when you're rinsing out the battery rock it back and forth and attempt to get the broken down lead out of the bottom where it might be shorting the plates. Then rinse and repeat a few times. That black gunk is broken down lead and needs to be recycled.
You could try turning a battery like this into an alum battery. I've used alum batteries with a dead cell to run lights and things that are less than 12 volts. For example a 10 volt battery will be less than ten volts once converted to Alum and can be used for some 9 volt devices and many 9 volt and less devices if you use a buck converter to reduce the voltage to the voltage of the device you're trying to run. Note: if you try to run things that draw a lot of power on an alum battery with a dead cell you will have to check the water level a lot because the dead cell will go dry much faster than a good cell. For low amp draw like LED lights you won't have to check the water level as often.
Lead acid batteries converted to alum are actually powerful batteries. They can be discharged virtually to zero volts without major harm to the battery, whereas a lead acid battery can only be discharged about 50 percent. They discharge differently than a lead acid battery. More like a NiCad battery but without the "memory" issues. Also, alum batteries don't like to sit idle for long periods of time. They like to be cycled.
I started a Facebook group a few years ago to discuss alum batteries and similar topics. I ended up expending it into a diy / self-reliance group. I love discussing this stuff and would love to see a discussion community develop surrounding the alum battery and other similar DIY technologies. facebook.com/groups/diy.sustainable.self.reliance
It's an old video,, I replaced it for another bad-ish battery with my car mechanic,, but better than this one.
Lessons to learn ...and AVOID ! Wear protective gloves, goggles and old clothing which will be not be worn except for garage use later. You were shorting the battery at eye level RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE !. Batteries give off explosive gasses and that hot wire and sparks could have exploded the battery. Draining and filtering OLD acid does not help. If you rinsed out the battery with distilled water and added FRESH ACID ( electrolyte )then it may have charged better but if the plates are "sulphated " then a "DESULPHATION / charge " would help to clean the lead plates. J K
Hi James Krivitsky
Thank You very much! alive and kicking!!
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Since you already drained the sulphuric acid out it is very possible to CONVERT the lead-acid info a ALUM batterie !
just replace the acid with a solution of water and Calcium Aluminium Sulfate (150 gr in 1 liter water) , this wil convert the batterie permanently in one witch will give lower CCA (cold cranking amps) and also a nominal voltage of around 12.00 volt fully charged but wil last for many years without sulphating again!
Also you can discharge these batteries till a lower voltage than a lead acid without doing them any harm, in practice the working range is between 9 and 12 volts even lower is not a real problem except the recharging time is getting longer....
best usage for a ALUM batteries is NOT to crank your car, but ideal for solar-deep-cycle use, for instance LED lighting and to power your HAM radio etc, etc.
best way to charge these is with a true PULSE charger for example a BEDINI style charger , the charcing voltage can be taken high until 15.3 volts after that the voltage will drop to about 12,2 volts without a load fresh from the charger, as soon as you draw power from the batterie it wil drop to around 11 volts, at that time the batteries is considered about 50 percent discharged, normally with a lead acid based chemistry you must STOP and recharge the batt, with a ALUM you can discharge much deeper till say 80 percent without damage!
The only thing is that the battery can freeze when used outside in very cold weather ,so for automotive use this is not so ideal for the northern country’s, but for stationary use (solar, electronics, backup, etc) used inside this is no problem any whey.
try it , i think you will be amazed at the longevity of this type of battery’s.
one more thing:
please expose of the no longer needed old ACID in a responsible way!
You are the first person stated clear about the concentration of ALUM.
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I think That there is always a critical issue with the acid filter and Epson salt battery videos. The acid is diluted as you are certain to loose some in transfers and you can never get all the rinse water out. In the Epson salt techniques, there is no way to get the acid concentration in the narrow range you need for proper function.
I do not think it would help this shorted cell.
So I have re-conditioned quite a few 12V batteries, even fixed a dead cell in a few of them, I'll let you in on a little secret. There's only about 30% acid in car batteries. Easily neutralized with a liberal amount of baking soda. Once you drain the electrolytes from the cells, I recommend a water and baking soda solution be poured into the cells, and then you should go bowling with the battery for a few minutes. If you have a gentle hill to roll them down even better. Make sure no rocks or trees are around to damage the lead posts. After bowling, dump out the baking soda solution and give it a rinse with DISTILLED or PURIFIED water only, the less contaminants the better. When you've rinsed the battery thoroughly, it's time to fill it with a new electrolyte. My secret formula is 1lb pure Epsom salt and 1 gallon distilled water. Mix together while distilled water is warm or hot to dissolve the salt fully. Let cool to room temperature, and fill cells until plates are completely covered. Charge overnight, and check voltage in the morning. If any don't hold at least 12V, you may need to go bowling some more, or cycle it with a load/charge cycle for a few hours, or over-charge it for a little while. Careful overcharging the battery though, as the batteries CAN explode if charged too much. I recommend a smart charger as well, one that will detect faulty batteries so you don't waste time charging a dead cell only to have to throw it around again and charge it all over. I'll post a video soon of bringing a battery back to life, I've recently acquired 2 that I have yet to do anything with. You'll get to see it from start to finish
Hi Michael Johnson
Thank You very much! That was a long promising plan :-) glad you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
A battery has enough amps in it to kill you, and volts. Your skin resistance is what saves you from being shocked, but it can still happen if you don't know what you're doing. Id rather you have the right info and be safe about it, it helps the environment too
@@MichaelJohnson-su2po Hey Michael, did you end up making the video? I know it's a few years later, but would be cool to see
I agree ❤
Dude, I'm all for DIY stuff but why would you wash it out into a tub and down into a public drain? That lead is toxic and goes back into the environment.
Hi lucidbarrier
Thank You very much! The water is cleaned at a treatment plant,,, before it is released back out.
Please be mindful of, that lead is digged up from the ground. But It is not good for us.
Thank you for watching! :-)
very little lead will come off from the cells, its a solid its not gonna dissolve in water. Very little if any lead went into the water. The city water already has lead so whats the difference anyways use a filter.
@@chriss4365 A battery has acid & lead. That's it. What do you suppose that gunk is gonna be? It's called lead sulfate. And just because your water is going to a treatment plant doesn't mean the plant is equipped to treat this chemical. There's a reason why this is not just immoral but ILLEGAL!
@@SerenoOunce I hope they are because tons of stuff is dumped in the water besides this one guy.
@@jerrywood1582 In the future we will visit the beaches of waste and our children will swim in a sea of sulphuric acid electrolyte solution, YAY!!
use jumper cable to short out the battery. this way your a good 10 to 12 feet away. try inserting the ground wire in the dead cell
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Hi @charlesmasey6815
Thank You very much! 'That was a bit of a risky move,, not saying that it would not have a chance,, it might!
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That is a good way to get Sulfuric Acid from a car battery. Acids are hard to find these days in other countries.
I managed to buy a liter in a car parts shop,, they might have it if you ask.
You might have signed divorce paper next day LOL.
Nahh,, would have had to wait until monday :-)
@@MyPlayHouse Not sure what but something in your video that kept drag me to the end of video 😐😐🙃 You are not expressing but you have high level humor. Keep it bro 👍
I poured the acid out of my battery. I then cut the cells out. melted the lead and boiled the water out of the sulfuric acid. what were you trying to accomplish with washing out the acid from your battery?
just so you know, if you were trying to recharge the battery use distilled water. the chlorine and sulfuric acid don't like each other.
HI
I thought the lead plates might be shorted. I accomplish nothing, or almost nothing! this did not work, no need to try that again! so a little something :-)
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Ahhh. Okay. I tested with a good battery, drained the sulfuric acid and water, refilled with regular tap water and recharged. I have drained the battery 2 times and tested. Even using chlorinated water I am holding a full charge. It was just a test, I am concentrating sulfuric acid and collecting the lead for casting bullets. The acid is for refining gold and silver. I was just wondering what you were trying to accomplish.
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Just trying if the battery was restorable, and if this was a way to go.
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you shouldn't put back the old fluid, use distilled water with added baking soda on it. pour in to your cells to clean all of your plates inside the cell, and drain again. repeat the process until the fluid is clear. then dissolve an Epson Salt to distilled water while you stir under low fire setting of your burner, set aside to cool down. then charge for about 24- 36hrs. in 2amps. setting without covering the battery. you can test the battery voltage before charging or you can check every 12 hrs., check on youtube video for measurement. there's a lot of videos about this and always safety first.
Hi ade sag
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ade sag it's just not so easy man, to put the baking soda or powder in the battery cells. Only the practicals give the right results. What we think we say is not always correct. The quantity of the much baking soda can damage the cells 100% .I have the practical proofs too.
You made such an easy thing look so hard
Yarh,, and had no luck.
Thanks fir video, how much % acid should have battery. I empty my battery acid, i buy it new but i dont know should be only acid all batery or need destilert water. Regards
This did not work out at all,, I got another used better battery instedt. :-)
@@MyPlayHouse Me to 😁
You have to remove the water from the accid.
What I do I put the accid in the slow cooker outside overnight with no lid.
Than put it back to the battery.
You did not changed the coffee filter, it would be faster filtering out the slush.
Hi Arpad Vadasz
Thank You very much!
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Interesting. So basically you boil off the water, huh? I thought about that, but haven't done the research yet. Outside seems to be a good idea though, since sulfur and other fumes aren't really something you want to breath. I'm guessing that freezing might also work.
Don't throw away the battery, keep charging the battery without covering the holes on the battery top for the acid to react better. you need to keep charging the battery 48 hours on 10 amps slow charge to wake up the defective cells. it is such a large battery so continue charging the battery, give it longer time to work. You are doing well, I enjoyed watching your video. It will work
This is a really old video,, this battery is long gone now.
@@MyPlayHouse make a video about finding it in the landfill and trying again
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Looks like his fine arts degree is working out well.
Well I do hope you learned something from this video,, meaby that You do not have to try this,, in that case it was fine.
Thats an acid meater . Its only tells you if you the right amouth of acid . In batterys its 70% water and the rest is acid . So you sucking up water with the acid at lest your are filtering it to get the crap out of the battery .
Some of the Sulfuric acid has turned into Lead Sulfate and not returning back to Sulfuric acid... Do you need to Attempt to charge the batteries first before this procedure to revert some of the composition back to acid so you can extract the majority back?
There was a bad cell,, and I could not fix that.
what material do you use to filter sulfuric acid because I have always known that sulfuric acid dissolves most organic stuff so what do you use to filter the acid?
why didnt you use epsom salt ? to try it out ?
lot of ppl said it helps.
Hi andrew ysk
Mostly because I did not have any,,, not a that normal thing here.
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EDTA to get rid of the sulfation on the plates that might be shorting it.
Hi buckaroobonsi555
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once you drained the battery you should have use a nylon gun cleaning brush to clean the lead plates to get stuff you could have missed
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How would anyone be able to get to the plates without dismantling the battery??
I have had incredibly good success in revitalizing batteries with MgSO4 (epsom salt) You make a slurry with the salt and distilled water. Spoon a tablespoon in each cell... replace caps and invert and shake. Turn back right side up and top off cells with distilled water. I needed to charge it over an hour or two but RAPIDLY discharge it. I used two halogen headlights to do this. The first cycle it would discharge in 2 minutes. The second cycle it lasted 7 minutes. The 3rd cycle it took 18 minutes. The 4th cycle it would take 90 minutes to discharge. This was on a battery that was dead for 4-5 years and in bad shape. I believe the theory is to remove the coating that developed on the plates. Give it a try and you will be surprised. Cheers
Hi Firewalker688
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How exactly did you discharge it? I'm having a heck of a time figuring out how to discharge mine. It's in my garage. I've attached a household lamp to it. One wire to each terminal and it won't light the bulb.
@@coachtim6188 Connect an inverter to the battery, then run a heater from the inverter. 500W-700W should do the trick
if the wife catches you you will never play the violin again lol
Hi @patrickmulholland1840
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After removing all the acid and water we can we fill only distilled water?
No it does need the acid,, I was hoping to fix the shorted cell,, I did not.
Sulfuric acid does not get 'old'. Total waste of money replacing it. Just filter it, but with a better set up than show here, so it is done in one hit.
The Epsom salts simply naturalizes the remaining acid inside the battery. It's only benefit is that the foaming reaction helps dislodge any loose lead sulfate sludge. The down side is it can just as easily dislodge lead oxide from the plates and cause a short.
Shorts can be removed by giving the battery a blow, BUT these can just as easily make new shorts. You are more likely to have luck hitting the battery if you do it before removing the acid so it can cushion the plates. Some sort of mechanical vibration is probably better than than actual blow.
Why would you pour, lead contaminated acid back into your battery ?
You could've made a clean mix with Epson Salt and distilled water.
Hi Okeechobee Joe
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Can't believe you drained a lead acid battery with no gloves on. And where are the vent caps? Taping over the vent caps isn't safe.
I can assure you that I am alive and doing well. But this did not work at all, so I would not recommend doing it at all.
Gloves, Safety Glasses [preferably a safey mask] , Acid Apron... PLEASE!
Don't worry,, I did this,, it did not work,, no one ever needs to do it again.
you cant just rinse it you have to clean the lead plates to remove tarnish so the electrons can flow again that's why they stop working. I have a 4 year old car battery and the fluid is still clear so no idea why your is so dark. You could of used a bunch of filters too to catch more junk. You have to charge the battery a long time after restoring it to check it then wait a day and see what the voltage drop is.
Hi chriss4365
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always good to make sparks near a battery that has just been unhooked from the charger seconds ago.. you have never seen the contents of a battery flying into your face
Hi bobl78
No can't say that I have! Hope you are okay!!! glad you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
seriously, be careful.. charging / uncharging lead acid batteries can creat hydrogen.. hydrogen+oygen+spark = book
Hey friend, you wore safty glass but how come you didn't wear gloves? Isn't this risky work with acid with barehand?
Acid is way better in films :-) in real life it stings, and start to hurt, and you wach it off and it's gone. There are way worse acid, but battery acid is about that level... don't get it in your eyes.. I have not tried that,, but would not recommend trying.
Short circuiting a battery on a shelf full of chemicals is a good way to cause an explosion .
Baking Soda neutralizes battery acid for disposal .
You need an old school tool used in rejuvenation of batteries called a hydrometer .
You reused old acid so you need to know the battery acid level in the battery acid .
Example ;
When using new battery acid , you don't use 100% acid .
The general fill is 35% acid and the rest of the cell is filled with distilled water only .
You never ever put regular water inside a battery .
There's heavy metals in public water .
This public water having metals causes the cell to short circuit releasing any charge within .
In short summary , you actually killed this battery .
To properly Shock the battery you need a battery booster that has a 200amp boost setting and a manual booster , never use the new electronic boosters , they won't work .
The old manual boosters usually have a timer on them but don't rely on the timer because the timers usually don't work correctly .
You can usually find one for around $150 U.S.D.
Never apply a chargers clamps while charger is on .
Place clamps and then turn on charger .
These micro sparks are known to cause explosion .
A cell isn't considered dead among the cells unless you have a voltage of 10v.
Each battery cell holds around 2volts .
That battery had plenty of life left .
Hope this finds you well .
The was a bad cell, that I was not able to fix. this was me trying.
@@MyPlayHouse
If the battery had a dead cell , it would have read 10volts , not 12volts .
Each hole is 2volts .
You cannot tell completely if a cell is dead or not unless you test that cell with a hydrometer .
A hydrometer shows you if the correct acid level is in the cell .
What you're calling a dead cell is almost never a dead cell .
Its only build up of corrosion between plates inside .
This is easily removed by shocking the battery with a 200amp battery booster .
You run the booster for 15minutes and then wait for 1 hour to let booster cool down . you do this until the amp meter comes up to the Batterys cold cranking amp rating ... That little meter is $25 on Amazon ..
You must understand only 35% acid goes in each cell and rest is distilled water .
So over time many people add more and more distilled water . this weakens the acids ability to hold a charge . this is what a hydrometer measures and tells you if the acid level versus distilled water is within range for the acid to hold the charge .
The cell is made up of only flat lead plates inside . its like staking quarters 1/4" apart but once the corrosion builds between the two plates then there's no charging the acid .
This corrosion is just like the corrosion that builds up on the top of the terminals that we can physically scrub off but inside it needs big shock with a 200 amp battery booster and it will all come off and be like new again ..
It does cost a little bit to get the stuff to do what I speak of but pays itself back when you fix only one battery ...
$9.00- hydrometer
$145- 200amp battery booster
$25- amp meter ...
People will give you their old batteries often or sell them very cheap to get rid of them .. So you can build a battery bank for very little money .
A battery is nothing more than an electrolysis process ...
A good way to see it visually is to see how they make the hydrogen set ups for cars or the colloidal silver process ... These all use electrolysis but you can see how the others are reacting because people make those usually in clear jars ...
I'm very glad you haven't glowed yourself up making sparks in your play house ..
Please be aware of the amounts of comments we get as TH-camrs,, keep comments short and to the point.
I guess you did not see the video before this one : th-cam.com/video/7hTsZFttDgU/w-d-xo.html
@@MyPlayHouse
Okay , I watched the other video .
I'm sorry if my post is long , I'm really trying to help you .
There's a lot to try to explain but is simple after you understand .
1st I will say that was a perfectly good battery .
2nd you need a good hydrometer that tells percentage of acid . the one you used in other video didn't have percentage readings .
3rd you don't seem to understand how your battery works .
There is almost never an actual Bad Cell .
For example , you said in other video Cell #2 ....
Okay ; that ONLY means the electrolytes ( battery acid ) isn't able to keep its charge .
Its like oil in car loosing its viscosity and turning to black water , battery acid looses its ability to keep charge .
Your charge is kept in the liquid , not the lead plates inside .
So you do not put full battery acid inside cell , this will not work , it will not hold charge . you must use 35% acid and fill 65% distilled water .
Another time a cell won't hold its charge is when someone has put to much battery acid or has added to much distilled water .
I'm excited to see someone else rebuild a battery and use for power .
This is a great thing ....
This is what I do so I like to help .
I know this battery may be gone but you can still do this and save so much money .
We have saved hundreds of dollars rebuilding Batterys for our solar power .
We haven't seen a battery we cannot bring back to full life yet ...
Hope this finds you well
Edit ;
Here ; I found a very good video of how to bring battery back .....
th-cam.com/video/TYXx70MqJ-0/w-d-xo.html
Why you dont used the strange syringe with which you picked acid from red bucket to coffee jar ?That thing is invented to meassure electrolyte density,.. And If you missin 2,1 of voltage that proves thht one cell is bad... 12,8 Volts / 6 cells = 2,13 Volts each. If you had 10,6 one cell is bad,...
This video is rather old :-) I do believe that one of the cells was shorted out, and I tryed to see if I could un-short that,, I could not.
Does your care giver know what you're doing?
Thank you very much for your informative inside on this subject,,, Wait,, never mind.
@@MyPlayHouse lol
hi what is the ratio of acid we need to put on to a car 12 voltage battery
old video,, battery was trached years ago :-) (recycled,, swapped with another broken one.)
@@MyPlayHouse what the meaning of this I can't understand if you have any other video on this topic please share the link here
Why fix all cells when there is only one dead cell? If that cell is physically broken, messing with the electrolyte won't do anything.
I did not manage to fix it.
@@MyPlayHouse Having around 10v on the battery means a completely dead cell - Lead plate broken or shorted. Nothing can be done for that apart from sending it to the battery rebuilders in india/pakisan. However a weak cell would be fixable through high voltage or chemicals. Playing with the electrolyte is not useful because a lot of the acid got converted into lead sulphate. If they are converted back to acid later, it would mess up the chemical balance of the replacement electrolyte.
Iv been wonder g about flushing the batteries Iv been topping off and try to bring back some old deep cycle batteries Down are coming back with this noco Charger
Well this did not work,, no need to redo this :-)
@@MyPlayHouse Iv topped off with distilled water and been charging noco genius 2 amp charger it is bringing some back Some it brings back voltage but not cold cranking amps
I have a battery like this one but i can't open it .
Did you make the holes or was there by the factory
I must admit, that I never had any luck with this.
Don't throw out, the lead can be repurposed. Or scrap for cash.
I swapped it out with another dodgy battery with my mechanic 🤗
Drain the battery suspended upside down over the backyard crabgrass and use the water hose nozzle to clean out all unwanted stuff while its upside down.
Hi john bartram Brooks
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How not to get a Battery working again :) LOL
Would not make a nice Coffee Brew too... :)
Hi +Phillip “Tech N' Gameing” Hardy
Well Yes,, i did giv it a nice big try!! "The Power Coffee Brew!" now with extra lead.
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Maybe charge battery at 20 volts 1 amp for 72 hours after refilling the acid but putting it back into the battery might work but for 24 hours be very careful when doing this as you know the batteries will gas in a release gases when charging and when using the extremely careful with this the process.
Hi don owens
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I use batteries like this for my electric scooter to get around I have solar panels and solar panels come with the minerals that build up on the plate and reduce the expectancy and keep the battery strong when I use it may take a long time but my charger for my show tired than normal charge and it takes a long time to cook Epsom salt but I use epsom salt and lemon juice at the breakdown the crystals of soft uric acid and try to break the film on the plates that prevent electric activity to increase the electrical connectivity and usually that works.
Isn't that stuff corrosive to the metal plumbing under the tub?
I wound not do it in a new tub :-/
Take a look at the main ingredient in Liquid Plumber (spoiler: Sulfuric Acid!)
WAY too many replies here. If anyone gets around to reading this.. some people say to replace electrolyte (sulfuric acid?) some say to use epsom salt and distilled water. How can they both work?
I do reat all the replies :-) One of the cells was shorted,, and I did not manage to fix that. and it´s not worth anything with a shorted cell.
The real problem is in your charging method. you need to zap the battery with a larger current over and over. on and off you might say. or Pulse charging. look up pulse chargers that the military use. also good pdf files on google will lead you in the right direction.
Wears safety glasses but doesn't use gloves. What's wrong with this picture?
Absolutely nothing,, getting acid in your eyes, you might have to go to the emergency room. Getting it on your hands,, it stings,, but washes right off. We learn that in physics in school.
You did not know this ?
Yeah you shouldn't be dumping battery dirt down the drain
No I do not need to try that again. There is a water treatment center that will catch this.
Black lead is always last on and first off when it comes to lead acid batteries.
Hi g k
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How to measure the volume of efsom salt on the battery of 12v car battery
Hi Jb Naigan
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Since when do we completly seal battery cells with tape so it cannot breathe during charging?What happened to the original cell caps?Are they gone down in the tub drain?
Hi Patricia Pesant
The batteries do not actually breathe,, they vent, only gas leaving.
This battery did not have "caps" it´s a maintenance free battery that I tried to fix.
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Savage but nice
I think he said something about drilling through the plastic cover. It's a low maintenance battery. But wait, that's a heck of a lot of maintenance, drilling holes and such, and explaining the missing enamel in the bathtub to his Mrs.! Those old tubs of that size are hard to find anymore....
thanks for the video LOL i watched it all the way through though
HI
Cool ! hoped you learned that this was not the way to go :-/
Thank you for watching! :-)
Isn't that black stuff very toxic? You ever get it on your skin?
Lead,, is not good for you. But I do not think it goes through shin very much,, but do not eat.
Bro, you need to charge it for like 8-12hr, 11 mins will do barely anything 😅
It had a shorted cell,, I did not need long to see that it was still shorted :-/
Is 20000 volts safe?
Yes,, as long as you go nowhere near it!! NO you do not want to touch that.
😎🙄😅🤡😉💁♂Dang: that shit was funny. Good idea of filtering: likely an yearly preventive maintenance thing thou.
Did not work,, one of the cells was shorted,, was trying to unshort..
This way is brings back long life to battery operation?
Hi kurdish alan
No,, it did not work! glad you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
MY PLAYHOUSE ADD A MIXTURE OF EPSOM SALT AND DISTILLED WATER, 1 GALLON TO 1POUND OF EPSOM SALT., CHARGE AND DISCHARGE 5 TIMES, THEN TEST WITH A CCA TESTER.
It was to far gone..
Would that after removing the acid or while the acid is in there?
Do not short a battery with wire unless you want to kill it completely
watch some other videos how to restore a battery IF your battery it is not completely garbage and please get some gloves
Hi Yianni Valakitsis (HomeCinemaCenter)
Thank You very much! This battery was to far gone :-/
Thank you for watching! :-)
You're absolutely right. As the battery is discharged or charged, the lead changes states. There is lead, lead oxides, and lead sulfates. Some sticks to the plates (grids), which you want. Some falls to the bottom, which won't be useful again.
Shorting the battery not only causes the normal discharge reaction, but generates a lot of heat. That can force the cells to swell and break, warp the plates, and damage the separator between the plates.
You won't burn off lead that may be shorting some plates. That can't happen until the liquid acid has boiled off. Needless to say, you don't want that happening either. It might melt a little if it's far enough above the acid level, but that would also mean the acid is too low.
The cleaning cycle could theoretically make a mostly dead battery kind of work, but the problem is usually the fact that the plates have degraded. The only fix for that is to recast the plates (grids), and refill the holes with the correct lead paste and charge it.
The physics and chemistry is really interesting. I only found this video because I was looking for a better method to clean the lead out of the acid for new batteries. Well, at least I see the acid didn't destroy the coffee filter. :)
Your right, the first sign of high amp draw would have eliminated it as a candidate for the rare but possible occurrence of low draw sulfation. This is rare and was evident immediately this was not the case.
Look up some info on chemistry and metal oxidation if your looking for a remedy.
LOL This guy is putting tap water in the cells when cleaning, then she shorts the batt, then he charge the baat for only 11min. LOL
And this guy reads and replies to all his comments :-) tap water is more clean than most bottled water here. Yes shorting the battery can help if one of the cells is shorted, running a high current through it,, can in some few cases "burn" that away. Yes 11 minutes,, it did not take me longer to realise that the experiments I had done ,, did not help,, battery still broken. Time to move on.
lazy should have waited a few days for acid to settle crap to bottom- was too dirty still
Hi Joseph Böhme
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
NEVER CREATE A SPARK AROUND A BATTERY THAT YOU HAVE BEEN CHARGING,,,HYDROGEN GAS IS EXPLOSIVE.
One battery might give a tiny pop by itself,, but I have never had it happen.
You should add epson salt into the battery as well
Hi Scott Dinh
Thank You very much! What is epson salt? I do not see it over here?
Thank you for watching! :-)
Epsom salt is Magnesium sulfate. Its what you add to the batter to aid in electric current transfer.
Watch your Vids for the 3rd time.. Your a very cool guy! thanks for the upload
You are a bit scary with using a tiny little wire to try and short-circuit the battery.
Hi Monday206am
Thank You very much! I am doing fine,, still alive :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
@@MyPlayHouse Glad to hear! I will take your idea of using a coffee filter :)
Be safe out there.
A man doing manly things.
And finding out the hard way,,, that that was not how to do it :-/ Yes :-)
If the acid is no good would it burn ur hands as much as new acid
Hi king Trevor 78x
Sorry I have no idea,, and I am not testing that!
Thank you for watching! :-)
specific gravity of acid per cell? = Rookie
Hi Joseph Böhme
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
Don't try this at home kids. Only trained professionals should attempt!
well.mr.Playhouse....i.m not.sure...but.....be care....good luck.from Latvia.
Hi arno Ekarts
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
What is meant by apsom
I did not understand
+Dar Asif - Epsom Salt or Google it :)
Caustic soda
Hi Dar Aasif
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
Look on the bright side....
You only used *ONE* coffee filter.
He he yes,, trying to keep the expenses down :-)
still got both eyes too..definitely a good sign :)
Alan Leon Wautier ?
Ever thought about toroidal transformer?
Hi moffitdevon
To be used for what?
Thank you for watching! :-)
That's one way to clean a coffee pot.
Hi Bert Cochran
Thank You very much! Very power full coffee after that!
Thank you for watching! :-)
😮 omg what happened to safety first.
No people was hurt in any way in this video.
Hay man good video ,I have a battery that was in my car that is only one year old and it will crank over the engine very lazy I think it the cranking amps .how can I restore this battery ? thanks man
HI
I did never find any working way :-/
Everything I tried, just seamed to make it worse.
Thank you for watching! :-)
Well if you want to repair a battery you should use NEW sulfuric acid 35% concentrated. Then, look for the terminals, if they are totally corroded, you can try to find new lead terminals, but I have no idea where you could find it. Anyway, if you are skillful enough you can just make them by casting lead in a plate format, like a "net." You will see how it is when you open it up, or you can check on youtube. Ah and if it's totally corroded and you don't want to change your lead terminals just throw your battery in the garbage... Don't forget to destroy the acid and the lead before throwing it in the garbage!!!!!!!!!
Y'all are very close to the industry secret.
I would have left a better comment had he not flushed all that oxidized lead "dirt" down the drain. (Hint hint) Hope he don't live near me.
If you are gonna attempt this stuff be responsible about it.
Hi michael hawks
Well as our wast water is cleaned in a treatment plan,, i seamed to be the best way to get rid of it.
Thank you for watching! :-)
Iv been rebuilding battery's for years. Imagine if I have been doing that all the while, what kind of harm would I be putting others in?
Anyway don't mean to chew you out.
Still have the battery? Want some tips? Your so close actually.
@michael hawks
im doing the same, i have a few that have seen better days.
if you care to share im all ears.
And how much money did you save factoring in the damage breathing in those fumes ? People, a car battery ain't expensive. Just buy a new one.
It is not always about the money,, It is a bit like asking a mountain climber, why he does not just go around :-) I like to fix things,, even if i throw them out afterwards. it's the journey, more than the end results.
Some say that it is "just impossible" to bring batteries back from the dead but, I think NOT. It's a simple matter of chemistry, IF there is enough lead metal left then the battery can be brought back.
So before we try to go around replacing lead metal plates in batteries it may be better to first try to understand something about typical lead acid batteries and how they deteriorate:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automotive_battery#Use_and_maintenance
So the question becomes how can we remove lead sulfate from the battery plates?
There are several methods:
nautarch.tamu.edu/CRL/conservationmanual/File14.htm
10% Hydrochloric Acid, might work
5% EDTA solution
ELECTROLYTIC REDUCTION CLEANING
and of course removing the plates and sanding or grinding away the lead sulfate.
Also, where exactly does the Lead go? Clearly mass must be conserved, could it be possible to recover the lead and recast it in a mold?
Hi John G.
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
this acid is not good man you need new acid
I think this dude is eating some acid, to dodo some of the shit he is doing, I believe he probley dopped to hits about 10 min before shooting the video. I would shoot this video if I didnt need my phone so Bad.😂😂🤣🤣😁💯
That would not fix the bad cell,, only improve on the other ones.
Sorry I do not do drugs,, so does not understand all your junky slang.
Lead in the household water. Bad Bad Bad! Criminal you!!!
You do know that lead is dug out of the ground?
hii My playhouse,
why did you use tape to cover the opening of the cells ?
andrew
Hi andrew ysk
Thank You very much! to not get dirt and dust into the cells..
Thank you for watching! :-)
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Where are your gloves?
Hi Dan Banovich
I do get this question from time to time, so I have added it to my F.A.Q. that you can check out under the "about" tab here on my channel. I give a longer answer there.
Thank you for watching! :-)
maybe you should have worn gloves...
Hi Donald Badeaux
You tell me now :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
I've done more stupid things than that...enjoyed the video...good to see that i'm not the only one who lives dangerously...
That's what I said to my proctologist.
Hey Stan where's your friend Oliver?
Hi Nikolaos Fanourakis
Funny,,Thank You very much! Hope you got out of the video, that this was not the way to go,, if so you did learn something,, hope you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
@@MyPlayHouse Oh yeah i did enjoy the video alright
That is cool,, there is not really any good way to fix these old lead acid batteries when they go bad. :-/
Will that burn your hands
Hi king Trevor 78x
Yes,, it is acid.. you wash it off.
Thank you for watching! :-)
There wasn't acid in that battery ,he had his hands in that red tub and it didn't burn him
THIS IS FUNNY.. DANGEROUS, TIME CONSUMING , JUST BUY A NEW BATTERY! I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE, BUT IN AMERICA OUR MONEY AIN'T WORTH CRAP ANYMORE.
Hi Richard Woods
Thank You very much! I do not disagree.
Thank you for watching! :-)
HSE would have a field day
Hi Geoff Heath
Thank You very much! Good thing,, then they are not working :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
Good thing you didnt drop that battery in the tub. Big splash up.
A TRUE GENUIS 🙄
I am still surprised I did not get, the Nobel prizes in sciences that year!
a mistake must have been made.
@@MyPlayHouse EXACTLY. No Justice inthis world 😁
German engineering? Hum. very interesting!!!!
Hi Gerry Laidler
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
German?
damn, you have one nasty bath tub .. I hope you do not wash yourself in there
Hi bobl78
Well it works rather well for that part to! glad you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
hahahahahahaha... Oh man thanks I needed that.. Hey next time..brew the sludge with the coffee machine on.. that oughtha do it :). German huh..Yah sure... hahahahahahahaha
ahh fuck.. too funny
Hi Alan Leon Wautier
Thank You very much! I tried it,, It did not work,, no need to try that again. :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
Actually try flushing the old acid out of the battery with baking soda/h20 mix, then refill each cell with new electrolyte 20/80 Epsom salt + distilled water mix, then cycle charge battery a few times. Should bring it back from the dead of not totally kaput. Worth a shot you're half way there.. good luck :)
actually , i was going to comment a similar remark ; that this was FUN to watch, ha,ga ; but didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings....particularly enjoyed the quiet " my wife won't .like this"........
Hope it wasn't meanspirited. I just couldnt resist. Luckily our good natured guy wasn't scalded or maimed.. God watches over the simple ones :)
I CAN'T HEAR YOU ???
I CAN´T HELP YOU WITH THAT !!!