Harry Harrison, himself a fluent Esperantist, used the language on occasion in his science fiction writing. In one of the 'Stainless Steel Rat' stories, the narrating character tells us that he 'speaks Esperanto like a native'; this is clearly intended as a bit of a joke.
@@EsperantoVarietyShow I'm just curious about a few things! How has Esperanto changed your life? Do you think your children will ever speak it again with you like before or they kinda not in the mood, as some teens are? :-) Do you still teach on italki? Do you have any more goals in Esperanto? Just teaching, making friends, just for the fun of it? I'm sorry, maybe I am being too deep about it, I guess! lol I'm just curious and also just interested! I have been off and on with Esperanto for abut 3 yrs, kinda playing a bit but now, I'm kinda jealous of so many people who can speak a language that everyone says is so easy and I still struggle a bit but I am using Complete Esperanto and I am finding this book the catalyst for my getting back in. I find myself enjoying it even more this time around, the book has more structure I was looking for to learn. I also think and would like to thank fingtam, Alex Miller and you, for getting my interest back! I may be utilizing that as well, since i have more time since my kid is out of school! I have seen your channel and I enjoy it even though I have no idea what you are saying! I'm starting to go thru your video course (on #3) ! :-)
@@lovinglanguages1 - Just a few things? Haha. I'll see what I can do. I hope you're subscribed to Esperanto Variety Show because it may just be easier to answer in a video. I hope you requested your free tutor. It really helps.
ok So I dislike esperanto's cult like nature I dream of a day where esperanto speakers just enjoy talking to each other without having the need to spread the language to achieve "la fina venko" which will never happen. We need to accept that esperanto failed as a language while also understand that that doesn't matter esperanto will never be spoken by the whole world but that doesn't mean we can't enjoy it.
The problem with Esperanto is that it's too European for those around the world to relate to and feel inspired to learn. In order for it to be successful and grow as the INTERNATIONAL auxiliary language I'd like to be, it at the very least needs to incorporate the largest native foreign languages in each continent in some way for it to be connected.
And English is not a European language ? Because Esperanto is not 100% perfect according to your standards we have to keep a way worse and unfair solution ? Strange reasoning. Esperanto is the easiest language in the world, roughly ten times faster to learn than English, and culturally, politically and religiously neutral. Its vocabulary covers the common denominators of the Indo-european languages (and that's a lot). So, even if it doesn't draw on the Asian languages, it's still the easiest language to learn for the Asians, as it is for anyone. Also, it's not true that Esperanto is based only on European languages logic, since it's also based on logic and rationality, which are totally universal. For example all its correlative words (when why, what, who, "for that matter", that, this, there...) refers to no existing languages but derive from a very ingenious rational system. Also, Eo is a "lego" language based on a agglutinating system with a few radicals and regular affixes and suffixes. So many words are not actually mere adaptation of preexisting European words but are built on this logical-regular-simple "lego system" that is typically Esperantist and universal by its own rationality. A very good friend of mine who is Mongolian and Esperantist, speaks perfectly the language, and she's herself amazed by the very efficient internal logic and the huge possibilities of the rational word-building system offered by the language that make it so simple. It's true that she had to make a little extra effort to learn it, but EASY IS EASY, whatever your linguistical background is. And if the only complaint about Eo is that it's not perfect... well I'm sorry. You can stay in your bedroom, lamenting and waiting for the miracle to happen, waiting for the definitively perfect language according to every standard (and nobody will never agree, let me tell you) to magically appear tomorrow. Or, you can use this beautiful and powerful language that's already existing with several millions of users around the world, and that shows us a way to a fairer world.
@@guillaumevera-navas1386 English is European. It literally falls bellow the European language branch because of the ethnic groups and nations that have conquered or integrated with it are European...A simple google search while suffice. Anyways, no one's seeking "the perfect language" there will never be a such thing because perfection is subjective. But if we are seeking an internal auxiliary language that seeks to unite all of US around the world, easy isn't everything. Is it critical to it's success? Absolutely. But it also must have meaning, and when you actually care to understand that this concern is brought up mostly by NON Europeans or whites, you'll be able to actually empathize with us. You clearly haven't, and that's the unfortunate part. The fact that I'm not the only one who actually has some knowledge about Esperanto and is learning it, should be at the very least be considered. But whatever, enjoy your day. Bonan tagon!
@@milianozuniga-deanda4955 Thank you for your reply. English is a European language : thanks for the information Maximiliano ;) I guess you're not at ease with the concept of rhetorical question. First, I'm sorry but don't tell me if I'm able or not to empathize with this "us" you improvised yourself as the spokesperson. You don't know me and that kind of remark really pisses me off. My experience of Eo is based on encounters with people from the 5 continents. So please speak for yourself, I'm big enough to speak for myself. You're not wrong on the principle but I'm saying that Eo is by far the best tool we have (and since I speak it fluently and already used it in many different contexts I feel legitimate to speak about it). It is not perfect but bloody efficient, free from the cultural-linguistical imperialism of the English language, and the easiest available linguistical tool for everybody, including for the non Indo-European languages speakers. And honestly, so far my Esperantist friends or acquaintances from Asia and Africa never brought up this issue, only Westerners (even though I guess that some Asians or Africans must do so obviously, but I haven't met any so far or the theme didn't pop up in the discussion). I'm not saying that the question of the so-called Europe-centrism of Eo isn't rightful, but it can't be the major one. I reckon that giving Eo a bad name, without providing any alternative solution, is completely counterproductive and that we should be united and realistic enough to defend the only credible alternative solution that exists on the international scene nowadays and that already counts a few millions speakers. And in the long run, who knows how gradually Eo could evolve, incorporating some extra-European linguistical elements... ? But, anyway, I guess that if Eo is not good enough for the standards you require, well, you will have to invent your own language to meet them. But good luck with that...
Butiti it’s true. And maybe I was too harsh on my first reply. If it’s the case I apologise to Maximiliano. But the thing is that there’s always someone to tell the language that is too this or not enough that. I agree, that maybe it could be optimised one way or another. But we will never agree on the what and the how. Never. So right now we have this language which is a jewel, imperfect, but still a jewel, and if we want it just to survive, and hopefully conquer new hearts and minds, in the shadow of the English ogre, we have to keep united and stand for it. It’s time for action together. And the idea of reform is a source of disunity and in my opinion it’s a luxury we can’t afford, at least for the moment.
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Harry Harrison, himself a fluent Esperantist, used the language on occasion in his science fiction writing. In one of the 'Stainless Steel Rat' stories, the narrating character tells us that he 'speaks Esperanto like a native'; this is clearly intended as a bit of a joke.
Mi amas Esperanton!
Awwww....I wanted to hear more!😭
:-) Anything specific you'd like to know?
Yeah, this video is just the teaser. If you want to hear more, go check out his channel!
@@EsperantoVarietyShow I'm just curious about a few things! How has Esperanto changed your life? Do you think your children will ever speak it again with you like before or they kinda not in the mood, as some teens are? :-) Do you still teach on italki? Do you have any more goals in Esperanto? Just teaching, making friends, just for the fun of it? I'm sorry, maybe I am being too deep about it, I guess! lol I'm just curious and also just interested! I have been off and on with Esperanto for abut 3 yrs, kinda playing a bit but now, I'm kinda jealous of so many people who can speak a language that everyone says is so easy and I still struggle a bit but I am using Complete Esperanto and I am finding this book the catalyst for my getting back in. I find myself enjoying it even more this time around, the book has more structure I was looking for to learn. I also think and would like to thank fingtam, Alex Miller and you, for getting my interest back! I may be utilizing that as well, since i have more time since my kid is out of school! I have seen your channel and I enjoy it even though I have no idea what you are saying! I'm starting to go thru your video course (on #3) ! :-)
@@lovinglanguages1 - Just a few things? Haha. I'll see what I can do. I hope you're subscribed to Esperanto Variety Show because it may just be easier to answer in a video.
I hope you requested your free tutor. It really helps.
@@EsperantoVarietyShow Ha ha ha, sorry! I just subscribed!
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What I like about Esperanto is its cult-like nature. It gives me a strong sense of cult belonging without having to be a JW or something like that.
Lol Esperanto has something for everyone I guess 😅
I'm not a JW, but I really respect them a lot! They work so hard for what they believe in, and it's really cool!
I literally wrote the same to another video a couple of days ago, it's a non toxic cult, and I love it!
what is a JW
ok So I dislike esperanto's cult like nature
I dream of a day where esperanto speakers just enjoy talking to each other without having the need to spread the language to achieve "la fina venko" which will never happen. We need to accept that esperanto failed as a language while also understand that that doesn't matter esperanto will never be spoken by the whole world but that doesn't mean we can't enjoy it.
The problem with Esperanto is that it's too European for those around the world to relate to and feel inspired to learn. In order for it to be successful and grow as the INTERNATIONAL auxiliary language I'd like to be, it at the very least needs to incorporate the largest native foreign languages in each continent in some way for it to be connected.
And English is not a European language ? Because Esperanto is not 100% perfect according to your standards we have to keep a way worse and unfair solution ? Strange reasoning.
Esperanto is the easiest language in the world, roughly ten times faster to learn than English, and culturally, politically and religiously neutral. Its vocabulary covers the common denominators of the Indo-european languages (and that's a lot). So, even if it doesn't draw on the Asian languages, it's still the easiest language to learn for the Asians, as it is for anyone.
Also, it's not true that Esperanto is based only on European languages logic, since it's also based on logic and rationality, which are totally universal. For example all its correlative words (when why, what, who, "for that matter", that, this, there...) refers to no existing languages but derive from a very ingenious rational system.
Also, Eo is a "lego" language based on a agglutinating system with a few radicals and regular affixes and suffixes. So many words are not actually mere adaptation of preexisting European words but are built on this logical-regular-simple "lego system" that is typically Esperantist and universal by its own rationality.
A very good friend of mine who is Mongolian and Esperantist, speaks perfectly the language, and she's herself amazed by the very efficient internal logic and the huge possibilities of the rational word-building system offered by the language that make it so simple. It's true that she had to make a little extra effort to learn it, but EASY IS EASY, whatever your linguistical background is.
And if the only complaint about Eo is that it's not perfect... well I'm sorry. You can stay in your bedroom, lamenting and waiting for the miracle to happen, waiting for the definitively perfect language according to every standard (and nobody will never agree, let me tell you) to magically appear tomorrow. Or, you can use this beautiful and powerful language that's already existing with several millions of users around the world, and that shows us a way to a fairer world.
@@guillaumevera-navas1386 English is European. It literally falls bellow the European language branch because of the ethnic groups and nations that have conquered or integrated with it are European...A simple google search while suffice. Anyways, no one's seeking "the perfect language" there will never be a such thing because perfection is subjective. But if we are seeking an internal auxiliary language that seeks to unite all of US around the world, easy isn't everything. Is it critical to it's success? Absolutely. But it also must have meaning, and when you actually care to understand that this concern is brought up mostly by NON Europeans or whites, you'll be able to actually empathize with us. You clearly haven't, and that's the unfortunate part. The fact that I'm not the only one who actually has some knowledge about Esperanto and is learning it, should be at the very least be considered. But whatever, enjoy your day. Bonan tagon!
@@milianozuniga-deanda4955 Thank you for your reply.
English is a European language : thanks for the information Maximiliano ;) I guess you're not at ease with the concept of rhetorical question.
First, I'm sorry but don't tell me if I'm able or not to empathize with this "us" you improvised yourself as the spokesperson. You don't know me and that kind of remark really pisses me off. My experience of Eo is based on encounters with people from the 5 continents. So please speak for yourself, I'm big enough to speak for myself.
You're not wrong on the principle but I'm saying that Eo is by far the best tool we have (and since I speak it fluently and already used it in many different contexts I feel legitimate to speak about it). It is not perfect but bloody efficient, free from the cultural-linguistical imperialism of the English language, and the easiest available linguistical tool for everybody, including for the non Indo-European languages speakers. And honestly, so far my Esperantist friends or acquaintances from Asia and Africa never brought up this issue, only Westerners (even though I guess that some Asians or Africans must do so obviously, but I haven't met any so far or the theme didn't pop up in the discussion).
I'm not saying that the question of the so-called Europe-centrism of Eo isn't rightful, but it can't be the major one. I reckon that giving Eo a bad name, without providing any alternative solution, is completely counterproductive and that we should be united and realistic enough to defend the only credible alternative solution that exists on the international scene nowadays and that already counts a few millions speakers. And in the long run, who knows how gradually Eo could evolve, incorporating some extra-European linguistical elements... ?
But, anyway, I guess that if Eo is not good enough for the standards you require, well, you will have to invent your own language to meet them. But good luck with that...
@@guillaumevera-navas1386 he never said it has to be 100% perfect
Butiti it’s true. And maybe I was too harsh on my first reply. If it’s the case I apologise to Maximiliano.
But the thing is that there’s always someone to tell the language that is too this or not enough that. I agree, that maybe it could be optimised one way or another. But we will never agree on the what and the how. Never.
So right now we have this language which is a jewel, imperfect, but still a jewel, and if we want it just to survive, and hopefully conquer new hearts and minds, in the shadow of the English ogre, we have to keep united and stand for it.
It’s time for action together. And the idea of reform is a source of disunity and in my opinion it’s a luxury we can’t afford, at least for the moment.