New follower. I'm 70 now, and my son lives out of state, so very few moments for this type of working together. I lost my Father many, many years ago. He was a builder by trade and taught me much and I know the beauty of sharing our skills with our sons. What a pleasure to see this fine teamwork. So much to admire here !
I love it when you do videos like this one when you do a Father-Son project because unfortunately he will not always be there to work on stuff with you. One day you will look at something that you worked on with him and say that those are good memories. I have several memories with my Uncle David that I am glad to have. I miss him a lot.
Very well explained, well done video! Not too long but includes enough detail to really explain what/why you're doing- always cool to see others methods.
Years of experience and planning just showed up in this video. Little things that make the job easier. There is nothing worse than half way through a project and find out that something was forgotten. I am so jealous of this shed. Everything inside will have it's own home now. Thanks to both of you for showing your skills and ideas. Will be waiting for part 2.
I'd recommend removing the jack support plates and using liquid nails behind and reattaching to give jack plate a solid continuous supporting underpinning for the mezzanine that's a more robust support rather than the shear value of a few screw anchors as currently built. Better yet show as built sketch to an engineer he may recommend running a new 4X4 or 2X4 jack stud all the way to the floor he may also suggest braces at top of columns located away from walls to provide for additional lateral rigidity. These are inexpensive easy to change adds that will give you peace of mind in knowing that your build was reviewed by a lic. Engineer. Nice clean build, Well done. Ray
I did a similar job but the trick I used was using the clamp to hold the joist hanger and board at the same time. It was so much quicker with no screwing and unscrewing! Great team guys……
Whenever I go into concrete floors, etc I only trust hiti red hats, drill 3/8" hole drop in the anchor, hammer away it isn't coming out ever. Then drill the bottom of the post to accept the screw, but use a fostner bit to provide clearance for the nut. Last insert post onto the red hats screw and all is good.. Never Moves!😊😊😊😊~~Cris
Ahh....it's just amazed me that just a few litte "extra" steps, makes such a beautiful project!! Your video's should be a "Must Watch" for new contractors.
Thanks for posting! I need to build a 12x16 loft in my metal building and this is perfect! I do not have room for stairs in my 26x40x14 building, so I plan on putting in pull-down attic stairs. Most of what is going up there won’t be accessed very often.
I like the way you install the joist hanger last. The joists will then be perfect to the front ledger board. Tricks like that are priceless. Thanks....
I don't think my dad ever laid a hand on a cordless tool. I wonder what he would make of all the ones we have now? Thanks for the video, Squatch. Senior is a treasure.
Looks great, only tweak I would suggest is putting a 2x6 all the way to the floor under your ledger board at the wall. The brace boards will split pretty easy with the grain vertical and lag bolts in them. It was pretty amazing in college we built all different types of 3 board columns then put them in the press to see what held up the best. All the fastner joints failed really fast but the glued joints were amazing.
We discussed that, but we're hesitant to brace anything directly against the floor slab until we get through this first winter and see how much, if any, the concrete will heave with the frost. The posts are all poly-wrapped to keep the frost from sticking to them and pulling them up in case there is a heave, but the slab could still move in that worst case scenario and we don't want anything to try to pull the posts up with it.
While gluing takes more time, I've become a believer in using glue for projects like this, especially the laminate posts and between joists and plywood floor. I like PL Premium, out of a caulking gun. Just don't get it on your hands, gotta wait till you she'd that layer of skin for it to disappear
Great work on the loft! Can’t wait to see the finished product. I’ve watched numerous videos and today was the first time I can recall Senior calling you Squatch. And he said it twice!
Very nice and well thought out. As always Squatch you and Senior are doing everything with precision. I can’t wait to see part 2. Squatch very enjoyable video.Thanks
Haha I was almost that guy who jumped the gun asking about aren't you worried about it setting on the screw heads and you showed us how you where counter sinking. Glad I waited love the video so far
Hi Toby, it was great to see you and senior working side-by-side and proving what true quality of workmanship you both achieve. It will definitely be something you can look back at and think of the happy memories when you built it. Plus to stand back and say we built that 👍
You and your dad work so well together, the two of you always seem to be on the same page. On top of that your projects always turn out very professional.
Nice work you guys very well planned out and executed. Might want to think about new ladders. Those old wooden ones looked a little sketchy. Love to see you guys working together. I wish my dad was still around to do that. Kind of stuff. Blessings to both of you.
Wood ladders overtime tend to dry out and loosen up and become wobbly. Just a quick observation. Didn’t mean to be a big critic I love everything you do on your channel. Would hate to see somebody fall. That’s all blessings to you and your dad.
Coming along nicely. At 6:30 I was thinking did they set those post right on top of the screw heads, that could cause some sagging. Next Clip Is u drilling reliefs, I should have known better 😂
You both are contractor material. What a great job you both are doing on your new red shed. Thank you so much for sharing. We are always building something around here and you gave us some good tips. Tom and Peggy.
That hanger idea is great but if you ever work with pressure treated better give it 6 months inside before you build or will be pissed 6 months from now when you got done with no gaps and some a 1/4” after it all dries and shrinks even. Wood is so frustrating to work with if you try to be super accurate. That being said go ahead and splurge the $100 to run those 2x6 to the floor on that outer wall so it’s not hanging on those lags. It’s cheap piece of mind that would add thousands of lbs of floor capacity to your loft.😊
Senior and I discussed that, but because we don’t yet know if, or how much, the winter frost will heave the concrete floor we don’t want to anchor anything to the posts that could be pushed up by the slab. With the poly wrapped posts, if the floor heaves up, the wall posts will stay put in the ground but if we anchor boards to the posts and butt them against the slab, the slab could jack up the wall posts 👍
@ With your drainage I would be pretty surprised if the floor moves but y’all got way more experience with your climate and hot it behaves. Here in Ky where it’s super humid I would never put timber in the ground cuz I have seen treated 6x6 be rotted in 20 years. It’s timber on a footer for me. Of course my house is almost 200 years old and it is timber just sitting on a pile of rocks so who knows. lol
Just FYI anchoring with screws in the base is kind of a good idea but if you don't sweep them and drill them all the way through the slab if you ever bust one off you lose all your holes because you can't drill through the concrete ones you'll have to move your plate over and drill all over again whenever I anchored uprights for stores like Home Depot and Lowe's in Menards we drill through the slab completely that way if a post gets knocked off you just take your hammer drill push that bolt out into the dirt and you can put another one right over the top of it whereas if you don't it's you can't drill out the bolt it's too hard you have to move the post over wrecking your layout😊😊
For the size Tapcon screws used here, if you should ever lose a hole due to breaking a screw, or if a screw hole strips out.............just drill another hole in the metal anchor near the affected hole and then drill your new hole in the concrete. No need to worry about a broken screw in a hole.
@@larrywalker7759 I break those tapcons off all the time. mostly because the drill bit they send with them is never long enough and I bottom out or something.
Wow! What a building. I love that clear and straight 2x material. That’s gotta be a big chunk of the budget but man is it a handsome touch. I like it❗️ Hi Senior. 🥸👍👀👋✅❗️
I noticed no joist cross bracing, I know it's only a 12' span but I also suspect you won't be storing just feathers up there. Cross braces help share the load to the adjacent joists and stabilize the whole platform. 🇨🇦
6:03, probably won’t matter if you use structural screws, but sizing the built up post so the fascia rests on top of a 2x6 will be stronger. I’m rebuilding a deck and the local code wants all joists to sit on top of posts instead of being fastened to the sides of the posts.
Sometimes to get stairs to work out properly, you can cut one and two step corners rather than a full square flat landing platform and it's still code.
I hang my floor joists the same way due to inconsistencies n dimensional lumber. Treated lumber is even more inconsistent. That’s going to be great storage.
Really nice job you two! But, oh man I'm cringing every time senior (especially, but you also Toby) is going up those creaky wobbly old wooden ladders! One fall onto concrete is one too many.
Making great memories with your dad. Squatch Senior are wealth of knowledge. Bunch of work and you’re dead hard. What’s his hourly rate?🤣 it’s gonna be awesome when you’re done with it.
Are you going to nail the decking down will work as good as screws and faster use some ring shank nails they will not come out all the work looks very good and the stairs are well supported with the posts
Remember your Stationary Engines would like a roof. How about putting one on your rock crusher for turnkey crushing? in addition to exercising tractors particularly in the rain.
I would have put the joist hangers on before putting the ledgers up. Easier to work on the ground attaching hangers while they are on sawhorses than on ladders up on the wall. To each their own method.
I would just extend the blocking down to the floor. No need to anchor it, run a blade width to account for discrepancies in the permacolumn at the bottom and to make the board sit flush against the 4x4 post. This way it will never sag. I've seen lots of lag bolts like that sag over the years.
Senior and I discussed doing that, but being that we don’t yet know if, or how much, the concrete slab is going to heave this winter we didn’t want to butt anything down against it that is also anchored to the building posts because if the slab heaves it’ll then be pulling the building posts up with it 👍
Nice job on the mezzanine. I’m looking to build a shed next summer with 16 foot sidewalls. I don’t know if I missed it or it didn’t come up but what is the height from the floor to the trusts. Good job and I’m waiting to watch the next video.
Thanks, it’s 15’6” from the slab to the bottom truss chords. The clear space under the loft is 7’6”, the loft floor is 1’ thick, leaving 6’6” clear space up top, just enough so that I can walk under the trusses and not have to duck 👍
New follower. I'm 70 now, and my son lives out of state, so very few moments for this type of working together. I lost my Father many, many years ago. He was a builder by trade and taught me much and I know the beauty of sharing our skills with our sons. What a pleasure to see this fine teamwork. So much to admire here !
I sure wish my dad was around to do projects with. I sure mis that and it really feels good watching you guys!
I love it when you do videos like this one when you do a Father-Son project because unfortunately he will not always be there to work on stuff with you. One day you will look at something that you worked on with him and say that those are good memories. I have several memories with my Uncle David that I am glad to have. I miss him a lot.
Framing with cabinet maker accuracy. I love it.
Very well explained, well done video! Not too long but includes enough detail to really explain what/why you're doing- always cool to see others methods.
Its so pleasing watch someone work with accuracy and patience. Smooth as silk.
Years of experience and planning just showed up in this video. Little things that make the job easier. There is nothing worse than half way through a project and find out that something was forgotten. I am so jealous of this shed. Everything inside will have it's own home now. Thanks to both of you for showing your skills and ideas. Will be waiting for part 2.
I'd recommend removing the jack support plates and using liquid nails behind and reattaching to give jack plate a solid continuous supporting underpinning for the mezzanine that's a more robust support rather than the shear value of a few screw anchors as currently built. Better yet show as built sketch to an engineer he may recommend running a new 4X4 or 2X4 jack stud all the way to the floor he may also suggest braces at top of columns located away from walls to provide for additional lateral rigidity. These are inexpensive easy to change adds that will give you peace of mind in knowing that your build was reviewed by a lic. Engineer. Nice clean build, Well done. Ray
I did a similar job but the trick I used was using the clamp to hold the joist hanger and board at the same time. It was so much quicker with no screwing and unscrewing! Great team guys……
Whenever I go into concrete floors, etc I only trust hiti red hats, drill 3/8" hole drop in the anchor, hammer away it isn't coming out ever. Then drill the bottom of the post to accept the screw, but use a fostner bit to provide clearance for the nut. Last insert post onto the red hats screw and all is good.. Never Moves!😊😊😊😊~~Cris
Ahh....it's just amazed me that just a few litte "extra" steps, makes such a beautiful project!! Your video's should be a "Must Watch" for new contractors.
Gotta love a good ol Red Shed Production, gonna be nice to finally see some iron goin in there...Looks great
Good job men. I lost my dad when I was 5 and I love to see father and son working together, count your blessings. Thanks for your videos, take care.
You and your father have a great relationship.
You and your dad's attention to detail is awesome, beautiful work.
Nice to see Plywood instead of OSB used! When you install your handrails consider a toeboard too - Toeboards often get left off. Great work!
Yep, toe boards will be going in around the entire perimeter, even on the main wall side 👍
Agreed. I hate OSB or, as I like to call it, SOB.
When you use the correct OSB, it will hold up better than plywood.
It is basically dried mulch.
OSB=Total Waste Of Money!
I really appreciate you and your father’s build very well thought out great job. Started following you thank you
Just absolutely beautiful craftsmanship by you two as usual! Really, Really nice guys 👍
Thanks for posting! I need to build a 12x16 loft in my metal building and this is perfect! I do not have room for stairs in my 26x40x14 building, so I plan on putting in pull-down attic stairs. Most of what is going up there won’t be accessed very often.
The loft is looking really nice. Lots of storage space when it is a deck above the floor. Keep up the great videos
I like the way you install the joist hanger last. The joists will then be perfect to the front ledger board. Tricks like that are priceless. Thanks....
Awesome work!!! The shed is a game changer for sure keeping everything dry and secure. Thanks for sharing another great video.
5:24, I’m with you on using screws. I haven’t used nails for a long time. Much harder to make changes, plus my arm thanks me!
Very well explained. These 2 videos have given me great guidance on my upcoming mezzanine build...Much appreciated! RJ
Nice to see someone taking pride in their work with precision and accuracy and doing it the right way!
I don't think my dad ever laid a hand on a cordless tool. I wonder what he would make of all the ones we have now? Thanks for the video, Squatch. Senior is a treasure.
Fantastic work! Even better design. Can't wait to see you and pop rough in the stringers and get the stair built. Much respect, as always 🙏
Looks great, only tweak I would suggest is putting a 2x6 all the way to the floor under your ledger board at the wall. The brace boards will split pretty easy with the grain vertical and lag bolts in them. It was pretty amazing in college we built all different types of 3 board columns then put them in the press to see what held up the best. All the fastner joints failed really fast but the glued joints were amazing.
We discussed that, but we're hesitant to brace anything directly against the floor slab until we get through this first winter and see how much, if any, the concrete will heave with the frost. The posts are all poly-wrapped to keep the frost from sticking to them and pulling them up in case there is a heave, but the slab could still move in that worst case scenario and we don't want anything to try to pull the posts up with it.
@@squatch253 good observation, thank you for the reply.
While gluing takes more time, I've become a believer in using glue for projects like this, especially the laminate posts and between joists and plywood floor. I like PL Premium, out of a caulking gun. Just don't get it on your hands, gotta wait till you she'd that layer of skin for it to disappear
Thanks for the video Toby! Looking great and close to the finish line! Can’t wait to see the next video!
Lookin great - Can't wait to see some tractors in there!
Love it! Very methodically thought out.. You obviously care about your work!
Great work on the loft! Can’t wait to see the finished product. I’ve watched numerous videos and today was the first time I can recall Senior calling you Squatch. And he said it twice!
So nice to see you working with your dad! ❤❤
Very nice and well thought out. As always Squatch you and Senior are doing everything with precision. I can’t wait to see part 2. Squatch very enjoyable video.Thanks
Haha I was almost that guy who jumped the gun asking about aren't you worried about it setting on the screw heads and you showed us how you where counter sinking. Glad I waited love the video so far
I see it is coming along nicely! I hope the nice weather holds out so you can get some painting done, 2 yrs with out the H is a long time
Hi Toby, it was great to see you and senior working side-by-side and proving what true quality of workmanship you both achieve.
It will definitely be something you can look back at and think of the happy memories when you built it. Plus to stand back and say we built that 👍
Some very good methods and common sense!!
It’s great to see a father and his son working together you can’t get a better teacher
You and your dad work so well together, the two of you always seem to be on the same page. On top of that your projects always turn out very professional.
Those tapcon screws are the best! Looking really great!
Nice work you guys very well planned out and executed. Might want to think about new ladders. Those old wooden ones looked a little sketchy. Love to see you guys working together. I wish my dad was still around to do that. Kind of stuff. Blessings to both of you.
What part of the ladders looked sketchy?
Wood ladders overtime tend to dry out and loosen up and become wobbly. Just a quick observation. Didn’t mean to be a big critic I love everything you do on your channel. Would hate to see somebody fall. That’s all blessings to you and your dad.
Loft is looking great! Can't wait to see it finished.
Senior and yourself are awesome good job guys
Coming along nicely. At 6:30 I was thinking did they set those post right on top of the screw heads, that could cause some sagging. Next Clip Is u drilling reliefs, I should have known better 😂
You both are contractor material. What a great job you both are doing on your new red shed. Thank you so much for sharing. We are always building something around here and you gave us some good tips. Tom and Peggy.
I enjoy seeing a great team working!
That hanger idea is great but if you ever work with pressure treated better give it 6 months inside before you build or will be pissed 6 months from now when you got done with no gaps and some a 1/4” after it all dries and shrinks even. Wood is so frustrating to work with if you try to be super accurate. That being said go ahead and splurge the $100 to run those 2x6 to the floor on that outer wall so it’s not hanging on those lags. It’s cheap piece of mind that would add thousands of lbs of floor capacity to your loft.😊
Senior and I discussed that, but because we don’t yet know if, or how much, the winter frost will heave the concrete floor we don’t want to anchor anything to the posts that could be pushed up by the slab. With the poly wrapped posts, if the floor heaves up, the wall posts will stay put in the ground but if we anchor boards to the posts and butt them against the slab, the slab could jack up the wall posts 👍
@ With your drainage I would be pretty surprised if the floor moves but y’all got way more experience with your climate and hot it behaves. Here in Ky where it’s super humid I would never put timber in the ground cuz I have seen treated 6x6 be rotted in 20 years. It’s timber on a footer for me. Of course my house is almost 200 years old and it is timber just sitting on a pile of rocks so who knows. lol
You do superb work. It takes an expert to make an accurate complicated job seem easy.
Just FYI anchoring with screws in the base is kind of a good idea but if you don't sweep them and drill them all the way through the slab if you ever bust one off you lose all your holes because you can't drill through the concrete ones you'll have to move your plate over and drill all over again whenever I anchored uprights for stores like Home Depot and Lowe's in Menards we drill through the slab completely that way if a post gets knocked off you just take your hammer drill push that bolt out into the dirt and you can put another one right over the top of it whereas if you don't it's you can't drill out the bolt it's too hard you have to move the post over wrecking your layout😊😊
For the size Tapcon screws used here, if you should ever lose a hole due to breaking a screw, or if a screw hole strips out.............just drill another hole in the metal anchor near the affected hole and then drill your new hole in the concrete. No need to worry about a broken screw in a hole.
@@larrywalker7759 I break those tapcons off all the time. mostly because the drill bit they send with them is never long enough and I bottom out or something.
Good job guys, it looks super! Ha, we can smell the fresh cut wood from here. Thanks for sharing with us.
What impresses me the most is those hi tech state of the art ladders you guys are using
I built two houses with my father. Let's just say it was never quite as calm and organized as your work. Beautiful job on the framing.
I be willing to bet that you will have shelves setup almost like in a library on top for storing all the little boxes of parts you have
Wow! What a building. I love that clear and straight 2x material. That’s gotta be a big chunk of the budget but man is it a handsome touch. I like it❗️ Hi Senior. 🥸👍👀👋✅❗️
Good work and some nice tips for us old guys to work smarter. You might want to retire the old school step ladders, lots of movement.😅
Great watching you two working together, and great having a new video to enjoy. How nice it is to have equipment inside and dry.
Great Build. That concrete floor looks great.
You guys do nice work! It’s a joy to watch!
I noticed no joist cross bracing, I know it's only a 12' span but I also suspect you won't be storing just feathers up there. Cross braces help share the load to the adjacent joists and stabilize the whole platform. 🇨🇦
Love your “work smarter not harder” approach to your projects.
Learned a lot from this. Have built a couple of similar projects but I see now that I could have done them better. Thanks for the lesson.
6:03, probably won’t matter if you use structural screws, but sizing the built up post so the fascia rests on top of a 2x6 will be stronger. I’m rebuilding a deck and the local code wants all joists to sit on top of posts instead of being fastened to the sides of the posts.
9:22, I spoke too soon, as I see that the 2x12 sits on top of the equivalent of a solid notched post.
Looks great. Those ladders were worrying me though.
lol yeah a few people have said that - they don’t bother me a bit, I’ve spent my whole life climbing on those ladders 👍
Everything is shaping up nicely! Will there be any "Senior's Select" lumber used in this build?
Sometimes to get stairs to work out properly, you can cut one and two step corners rather than a full square flat landing platform and it's still code.
I can almost smell the fresh timber as you assembled that loft!
I hang my floor joists the same way due to inconsistencies n dimensional lumber. Treated lumber is even more inconsistent. That’s going to be great storage.
Excellent work!
If I remember correctly senior is a couple of years younger than me. I see he goes up a step ladder one step at a time just like me. Haha.
I'm suprised you guys stuck it out that entire time with a regular hammer drill rather than rotohammer. Those things tear you up!
Really nice job you two! But, oh man I'm cringing every time senior (especially, but you also Toby) is going up those creaky wobbly old wooden ladders! One fall onto concrete is one too many.
You two work well together same as my dad and I use too
Nice work y’all. Another job well done.
Great video. I'm actually building almost the same thing
Making great memories with your dad. Squatch Senior are wealth of knowledge. Bunch of work and you’re dead hard. What’s his hourly rate?🤣 it’s gonna be awesome when you’re done with it.
Are you going to nail the decking down will work as good as screws and faster use some ring shank nails they will not come out all the work looks very good and the stairs are well supported with the posts
Looks good,and some good building tips!
Hey up you two bet all that wood has given the shed a nice smell, looking good
Nice looking lumber; those 2 x 12s must have cost a pretty penny.
Great work, well done!
I’ve been looking forward to this… SQUATCH-spec carpentry.
We may never build tractors or dozers but we can dare to emulate the framing :-)
Remember your Stationary Engines would like a roof. How about putting one on your rock crusher for turnkey crushing? in addition to exercising tractors particularly in the rain.
For some reason my shop was built with 9' walls. I'll get a bit off a storage space with trusses in the way for company.
Looks awesome . More storage close where the work is .Denis from Santa Rosa Ca
Build a perfect foundation, the rest goes together perfectly
Theres some great ideas there. But were the screws you used in the hangers rated for that?
Nice work! Excellent construction methods.
Two of the best doing what they do best 👍🏻🤩☝🏻
Tap cons!!! I love those things
I would have put the joist hangers on before putting the ledgers up. Easier to work on the ground attaching hangers while they are on sawhorses than on ladders up on the wall. To each their own method.
That’s a beautiful building!
Coming right along!
Looking great!
That’s going to be vary strong mezzanine good job
Looks amazing
I would just extend the blocking down to the floor. No need to anchor it, run a blade width to account for discrepancies in the permacolumn at the bottom and to make the board sit flush against the 4x4 post. This way it will never sag. I've seen lots of lag bolts like that sag over the years.
Senior and I discussed doing that, but being that we don’t yet know if, or how much, the concrete slab is going to heave this winter we didn’t want to butt anything down against it that is also anchored to the building posts because if the slab heaves it’ll then be pulling the building posts up with it 👍
@@squatch253 Ah good thinking :)
I think Senior is thinking about building his own shed 😊😊😊
Nice build.
Nice job on the mezzanine. I’m looking to build a shed next summer with 16 foot sidewalls. I don’t know if I missed it or it didn’t come up but what is the height from the floor to the trusts. Good job and I’m waiting to watch the next video.
Thanks, it’s 15’6” from the slab to the bottom truss chords. The clear space under the loft is 7’6”, the loft floor is 1’ thick, leaving 6’6” clear space up top, just enough so that I can walk under the trusses and not have to duck 👍