i don’t care that Marie Antoinette (2006) is historically inaccurate!
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Queen of Fashion: What Marie Antoinette Wore to the Revolutions by Caroline Weber
Corsets and Crinolines by Norah Waugh
Terminology: What is a robe de cour or grand habit?: thedreamstress.com/2013/09/te...
The Times: Sofia Coppola’s Marie Antoinette: www.thetimes.co.uk/article/so...
LA TIMES - "Versailles, done in Pastel": www.newspapers.com/image/1928...
IGN - Interview: Sofia Coppola: www.ign.com/articles/2006/10/... - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
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The movie is the perfect example of "Learn the rules before you break them" I love the costumes and I love the modern touch in it
I have no idea whether you are talking about the movie's costume designers or Marie herself and I love that.
Yeah, the fact that the film had the same designer as Barry Lyndon makes everything make sense. That film is a masterclass of historically accurate costume design. Every scene is like a painting, every costume has a reference. You can see the link between Barry Lyndon and Marie Antionette in the costuming for sure.
ohh, absolutely 💗 you can really tell she knew what she was doing
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A detail I like is how in the "let them eat cake" scene Marie is wearing jewels and a dark lipstick, as a way to show that isn't the real Marie, since she never said that phrase
i didnt know that thank you for the information
@@sashakirchheiner8802 tbh i don't know if this is official, it was more like an analysis hehe
Let them eat brioche
Yeah at the time she was a teen and not even in France . It was another lady who said that ...
It doesn’t matter wether she said or didn’t say that phrase. She lived it. Her excessive lifestyle was why the people of France were starving in the streets. This movie is cool but lets not forget that Marie Antoinette isn’t a cool tragic feminist character
Fun fatc: the pink hair was actually accurate. women of the french aristocracy would use a powder on their hair, which was sometimis colored.
Pale pink and blue hair was actually more appropriate for the French court at the time than brown would have been lol
Yes they also used blue
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I read about that in a Royal Diaries book
@@sweetlorikeet why
Marie Antoinette is pretty much the origin point of all the new post-modern, fun period dramas that are getting popular now! Bridgerton, The Great, Emma... despite the initial cold reception by the critics, it was revolutionary and rightly cherished by the pop culture, the styling and the whole aesthetic is beautiful and don't get me started on the soundtrack, truly a classic
God you are so right
My love for post-punk music came from Marie Antoinette! It's definitely is my standard for out-of-the-norm period dramas.
every artist or art piece which are ahead of its time gets misunderstood and criticized by their contemporary peers, but because some of its immediate admires offered real support, it will start a trend and get its deserved value and recognition by the future. there's a price to be paid for pioneering. as far as I understand, that's what happened to this film. please excuse my broken english as it's my second language.
I loved the new Emma
looking back marie antoinette 2005 is more accurate than i thought.
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Never forget those bts pics from tumblr of Kirsten Dunst in full costume holding a macbook - absolutely iconic! (Also you win for costume commitment, I'm so happy you made this!!!)
yes!!
Very iconic
There are other posts with actors in period costume using modern tech- it's great
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To be fair the Queen was EXPECTED to spend a ton of money. She was EXPECTED to wear the nicest dresses. BUT Marie Antoinette didn't dress conservatively and hold to the traditions of court with the things she bought like a queen is supposed to. She lived and spent like the king's mistresses were supposed to, buying the latest fashions and being progressive and that's kind of what the issue was.
Also, when she started wearing the dress a la reigne, she ditched the silk made in France for the cotton imported from India, thus damaging the French economy. I read it happened the same when she prefered pearls instead of diamonds.
There were also the issues of her being Austrian after the France and Austria had some devastating wars between them. She committed a lot of faux pas’ but those were compounded by the fact that she was foreign and could never be “French enough.”
But she still was spending excessive amounts of money and in times were it was not wise. The French court had high debts, the people were starving and there were some upcoming wars/political conflicts.. Her mother also critized her behavior in her letters, because it was even for a french queen quite extreme. And if your country is going downhill, you can't just pretend as if everything is fine.
@@vilwarin5635 She didn't really damage French economy (how she could?), it was just propaganda.
@@gianmarcorusso1713 Neither her or Louis XVI were truly bad people. The people were suffering, they snapped, and designated big bad culprits to unleash their anger on.
Marie Antoinette’s story is very upsetting. She was married at fifteen and shipped off to a country she didn’t know the language of. She was forced to cut all ties with her previous life and was used as a scapegoat. She was called by the public ‘Austrian B!tch’. There’s a great podcast on it by Marvin Brag on the series In Our Time, I highly recommend!!!!!!!!!!!!! EDIT: Sorry, she did speak french when she arrived, but still, same point!
I love in our time and I think the one that they did on Marie Antoinette was excellent
Yes indeedy, tragic, but that’s what made her a legend. There is an aura around her life... the fashion, the luxury, the palace, the grand ‘narrative’ around her as a royal, and all of it contrasted against the revolution and poverty beyond the palace gates that led to her untimely demise at the guillotine. Just... art, right there.
And besides, I think everyone’s lives sucked back then haha.
She did speak French. Her mother hated German language and official spoken language on Habsburg court was French, although she had to know German, Latin, and Italian, also probably Spanish.
But yeah, her life hasn’t been easy at all.
That's horrible and all but she also lavishly spent money, and child laborers get treated much worse these days.
@@audrey8412 yes but how aware of bigger word issues when you you where 15. I can say I personally was very unaware of things like that when I was 15 and probably would have over spent if I had the ability to at that age. It's unfair to expect the same thing from a child as we would an adult in that situation.
Marie antoinettes story is really sad when you look into it
She didn’t deserve to die the way she did, especially not her son either, but she was born insanely wealthy in a time when the lives of 90% of people consisted of mostly miserable backbracking 10+ hour work days and her excess spending worsened taxes that affected this 90%.
definitely, all the revolutions are barbaric - I don't think the "greater good" that supposedly follows, excuses it
@@sardiniapiedmont she was a teenager. a bored teenager. she was also insanely lonely. she coped by buying things
@@sanriocondom she was a teenager when she became Queen of France, she was in her 30s when the Revolution broke out
There’s an excellent biography of marie Antoinette written by Stephan Zweig, it’s very insightful and empathic
Damn I actually feel kind bad for Marie now like I know this movie isn't accurate but her having a meltdown naked in the snow at 14 is just so sad :/
the movie is mostly historically accurate, just condensed.
@@mollympls And reorganized to give more emotional significance to every event.
@@mollympls What? No, it isn't. One of the things I can tell you off the top of my head is that at the end it was the king's sister, not Marie, who said the line about the lime trees.
@@mollympls I think the better term is “historically authentic.” It conveys to the audience a particular mood or emotion that is accurate to history without in a way that modern audiences can sympathize with and understand.
She didn't actually have a "meltdown". She shed a few tears because they took everything including momentos from her mom and then said she couldn't keep her dog. Plus, she had been traveling for weeks and had a cold, not that it was cold. She actually held her composure despite tears coming down her face though. All commentary at the time said she stood still as she was stripped and cried.
Yk, something about Min calling us peasants doesn’t make me mad like. Thank you? 😃✨🕺
yess like, thank you for referring to me 🥺
She called us pheasants?
@@hannamadsen sorry I tried to fix it sorry
@@hannamadsen that sentence didn’t make sense either but yea sorry
@@kayla.beaker_.3385 it's nothing to worry about!
"hello my pheasants, hello my little doves"
may I request to be called a silly goose?
oh yeah? we're so silly!
request for everyone to call me a goose
I love whenever I see comments made about the purple Converse seen during the "I Want Candy" montage that it was an unintentional "mistake" on the filmmakers' parts. Like, they're so blatantly meant to be there. You're not being smart or clever, you just missed the huge anachronistic point.
Hating this movie was cool when it came out. A lot of teen girls, myself included, liked it so it's obviously silly, frivolous and filled with mistakes. Le eye roll.
This film is, quite literally, a feast for the senses. There is so much external stimuli, in such a beautiful over-the-top way, I feel like the design choices were GENIUS in basically translating what 18th century opulence would look like to a 2000s teenager, while still keeping the Versailles vibe intact. Truly awesome film and fascinating analysis!
the clothing are accurate but not to marie antoinette xD or at least her more extravagant gaudy clothes in painting
the small little joke "what if we just sing imagine tho" SENT me
Accurate
sorry could you explain the joke to me i dont get it aksdnfaksldjfnaf
@@visasv.429 back at the beginning of the pandemic shut downs in the US, a bunch of celebrities - instead of donating money or time or resources - just all got together virtually and sang 'imagine' as like, a morale booster? It's not super clear what they thought it was gonna do but they were very self-congratulatory about it and it was very out of touch
@@ekgobi thanks for the explanation!
I would like the point out the converse in the movie. I read in a article that the converse were put there for a reason to symbolize Marie's youth. She was still a teen of course. She was shopping, having fun and the poor girl had so many expectations she wanted to go home. There were other easter eggs of modern stuff in the movie that symbolized Marie's youth. She is honestly a icon but sadly her lavish life wasn't always rosey. She did mean well but she really didnt have a role model or a mentor on how to guide her through those things. Her people of France even spoke ill of her (to be fair she wasn't really helping them either but she didnt know how to.) The saying "Let them eat cake" was just made up by them painting the poor girl as a villain. She was just a kid but then again royalty back then didnt care which sucks ass. Marie was literally born in the wrong time.
yea this movie is a great example on how "breaking" historical accuracy can add so much to the story if u do it well
Of course she had no easy life with many expectations placed on her, but she also did not really try. She never cared about politics and ignored most of the advices her mother was sending or which Mercy, (the Austrian emissary living with her in Versailles) was giving her.
And of course, she was very young at the beginning, but she ruled the country 20 years, died with 37. And in all this time she barely changed or did not care about politics or the starving population of France
what are the other easter eggs?
@@THExLIFExISxTOxSHORT well yeah like i said she was 17 and definitely shouldnt have been a ruler of a country. For example, a person wants to do something different that they are passionate than be in some tight knit place working 9 to 5 but the strict family says no and they gotta do what they have done growing up and now that person is trapped as well. Its like that. She had no say.
I was looking for this comment because I caught the converse, but I didn't understand the meaning
When you think of their marriage was consummated only after seven years... Yes, they were very young and both inexperienced when they got married, but they were simply expected to "produce", no help or understanding or assistance from anyone, everybody gossiping about what was going on in their beds, and they were neither in love nor very sensual natures. Her brother finally travelled to France and gave his brother-in-law some good advice. Incredible, when you think about it from today's standards.
It’s sad like love was not an expectation for their marriages. I can’t imagine consummating with someone I didn’t love. Plus like you said they didn’t even know what to do really. There was no XXX.
She actually loved him later. It was a strong couple actual. She mourned his death deeply. I think it's mostly because she loved her children more than anything
@@PomegranatePomPom didn't she cheat on him with that man from Sweden tho?? X"D I feel like she was doing her role as a wife and a queen only tbh and was too kind or maybe she actually liked him in the end who knows....
@@taiyo4543 She never cheated. She had too much morality and was too religious for that. Even though I think she had deep platonic love to Fersen. But never would she have dared cheating on her husband. It was fake things said back then to make her look bad. Just because she was "too close" to her male and female friends (it was just normal friendship). Just the society was misogynistic af and whatever a woman could do. She would always be considered a s*lut.
@@taiyo4543 She actually loved Louis XVI tbh. As she mourned him until her own death. And was devastated by his death. As they got closer to each other in the prison temple. In this prison they started living as a real family and got used to this very simple way of life.
My opinion of Marie Antoinette as a person: I don't believe that she was malicious or feckless, just naive. I think she had no concept of the real world because she'd never been a part of it. I think that she didn't know any better and the consequences of her lavish lifestyle were lost on her; she'd always had buckets of money spent on her which seemed limitless, and she'd never been troubled by where it came from or the what if it ran out. Nevertheless, she was not personally responsible for France's economic inequality and had little to nothing to do with any policy issues nor did she have anything to do with setting the national budget. She was scapegoated for a lot of issues because she was foreign and badly libeled in the French press. She wasn't really that bad.
My opinion of the films costumes: they make perfect sense and I'm fine with anachronisms when they are made consciously for a purpose and not because of ignorance or laziness, and in the end they create the right feel and suit the character. It's the opposite of Little Women, in which the inaccuracies seem more like mistakes than choices and it felt like the designer just didn't really care.
Very wise comment, just one note: she actually had sense of the real world. If you read her correspondence she had much compassion for her subjects and the poorness which afflicted them. She could not do anything of course: it was a system which existed before her, she couldn't and wouldn't change it.
She was not responsible for the system but she benefited from it, like slave owners children who technically don't have any power on slavery but benefited from it. Also she asked her brother to invade the country in order to put back absolut monarchy so she is not a poor little girl
Marie Antoinette is such a classic! Not to mention Kirsten Dunst is such an immensely talented and understated actress who should’ve long been an Oscar darling.
15 years old was a normal age for an european princess to get married. She was not particularly younger than others. What is really sad is that the Austrian and the French court were really different and nobody bothered taught her the French way.
And also everybody was judging her for not being pregnant when we know (and we know that THEY known) that it was the king who was ill ! He had a phimosis.
(and also we don't have differents words for corset and stay in french, they are both call "corset")
The king was mocked too by the public.
I remember reading that after her beheading, many young women in France took to wearing red ribbons around their necks in her honour
And probably got their heads cut off as well. Anyone suspected of showing symparthy for nobility was killed.
Not in her honour, actually; during the Reign of Terror (a while after Marie was executed), women would wear red ribbons in remembrance of loved ones killed by the guillotine.
she was not popular among peasants..
Realmente no era por eso exactamente...
Girls of the early 19th century also were their hair cropped in memory those who got executed during the Revolution. I think the cut was called “a la victime”
We don't deserve to see mina in such a fabulous wig
Miss Le did not come to PLAY she brought the WHOLE FIT today.
Something extra about the chemise a la rein that you left out: silk, the traditional court dress material, was a French colony product, while cotton was a British colony product. It was seen at first as unpatriotic to wear cotton dresses like Marie Antoinette and her friends did. Eventually, most of the aristocrats did it in a desperate attempt to sympathise with the common folk.
another thing that’s so amazing about the costuming of this movie is that it really reflected the youth-centric opulence of the mid 2000s (and thematically, the demonization/scapegoat-ism-if that’s a word?-of young women in the place of systemic wealth injustice that had been long established. it was an oh-so popular narrative the media loved to fixate on at the time this move was released)
Yes! This movie came out exactly when the biggest trend was condemning young celebrities and putting them on all the front pages of magazines simply because… they partied.
*whispers* free britney
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And Sofia Coppola also directed The Bling Ring!
I think being prissy about historical accuracy in this movie is missing the point. All the inaccuracies are not due to lack of knowledge but on purpose. Sofia coppola is all about mood through visuals.
So many good historical movies out there that get ripped on by history snobs like Brandon F who think a movie has to be 100 percent correct for it to be good. I'd rather a movie be entertaining and historically authentic than completely accurate.
@@rc59191 same here, off topic similar to what I’m talking about, I mean absolutely love the Prince of Egypt, even though I’m aware it did stray from the source material, besides it didn’t need to excruciatingly accurate, also I honestly love every aspect about it, it has gorgeous animation, visuals, cinematography, musical score, etc. also the voice acting was excellent, the character designs looked pretty authentic to the time period that it’s in, it’s rare to see biblical characters that aren’t fair skinned on screen. I’m not in an expert in ancient Egyptian and Israeli fashion, but the costume design in that movie looked pretty authentic to me. Also I don’t have a problem with white actors playing biblical characters as long as it’s a good performance, I know it does like a controversial opinion.
agree! plus, this isn't meant to be your typical period drama anyway. it's a modernised take for a modern audience and i appreciate the little easter eggs.
it always amazes me to see how we went from Marie Antoinette's extravagant dresses to the white t-shirt and jeans French Girl, something went wrong
Well I mean the average french person in Marie’s time was not wearing extravagant dresses and such
@@brendanmorin9935 Sure, it was meant to be a joke, I'm French myself lol
@@AliceCappelle oh lol
Girl don’t make me start how I would want a resurgence of 1700 style, like in this movie, paired with converse shoes and leather jackets, kinda like what Moschino did last year or so, ugh I just love this aesthetic so much ❤️🩹
I wouldn't say something went wrong, just time changes.
i dropped my barbie movie for this oml
The dedication
I had no idea this is the same costume designer as Barry Lyndon?! Anyways this movie is a perfect example of how a period drama can have anachronistic costumes that are still beautiful and cohesive. Unlike br*dgerton
Aren't Bridgerton costumes cohesive?
@@dulmaria.d yeah I came in to disagree with OP. Bridgerton has it's issues but the costuming was really nice. Of course it isn't historically accurate and can be quite campy at times, but the show isn't even meant to be an historically accurate retelling of events since it's an alternate universe to ours.
Also small correction: Milena Canonero actually did the Clockwork Orange not 2001 space odyssey. Also, I’ve never seen the movie nor did I ever read the book, judging from what I’ve read here, I heard the movie has a sensitive content to it, especially the whole gang rape thing.
In the Marie Antoinette episode of the BBC's fashion history series 'a stich in time' they show her fashion 'catalogues' - they contain original fabric samples and even her very own commentary on those, if I remember correctly. Highly recommend watching to anyone interested in her actual clothing!
I feel like this movie's soundtrack is what Cruella's soundtrack wanted to be.
I think it’s so sad that Marie Antoinette wasn’t even supposed to marry Louis. Her older-sister was betrothed to him, but caught smallpox and died. Marie Antoinette, whose education had been neglected due to her being one of the youngest children of Marie Therese, was the backup and the Austrian court had less than a year to prepare her for the life of a future queen of France. She also had to have very painful dentistry to correct her teeth, early orthodontics called the ‘pelican’. Antonia Fraser’s book - from which Coppola’s script was largely taken - goes into a lot more detail about Maria Antonia’s childhood.
Marie Antoinette was also slated for spending on her wardrobe, but there were very strict etiquette rules about how many changes of outfit she had to have in a day, and the same etiquette rules dictated how much money she had to spend - yet the allowance hadn’t changed since the etiquette rules were first written to reflect the economy and the cost of her wardrobe.
I was 16 at the time that it came out and we were all so crazy for this movie. Because it wasn't just about the character but about our youth with endless references to the 2000's era and our fashion, our taste and our humour. Which is also why my friends and I loved Dunst for the role as she was our Mary Jane, our beloved icon at the time. Every time someone critics the Converse on this movie I always feel they are either too young or too old to remember why they put them there and how much we all loved it. The messy rooms, the adults telling her what to do....aaahhh! I love this aesthetic.
that audible advertisement had no business being that good- U GO QUEEN
the way i BURST out laughing at the sofia coppola casting joke
corps (sounds like "core") means "body" in french, so this is the french word for essentially a pair of bodies, a boned bodice. (bodice is a word that comes from this; bodies.)
Marie Antoinette's outfit during the masquerade ball looks like something Siouxsie Sioux would wear, which is perfect, considering the song they play in that scene.
I think they did a purposeful anachronism for that scene because its goings-on are actually entirely historically rubbish. It played into conspiracy theories that Marie Antoinette was childless because she slept around (makes no sense, I know), for the sake of the story, and didn't want it to look as historically true as the rest. In my opinion it could have all been omitted.
“What if we sing imagine instead?”
“I want five more of these blonde bitches.”
(Plus the costume in this and “silly American you have nothing to lose but your chains” from the Emily in Paris review)
My Queen I now bow before you
Mina: "Hello my lovely little pheasants"
What I hear: "Hello my lovely little peasants"
One thing I'm really coming to appreciate about this movie is that there is a pretty clear progression of the silhouette and hairstyles to help tell what decade it is in the story. Whether it's the 1770s with the robe a la Francaise or the 1780s with the robe a langlaise and the hedgehog hairstyle you can tell that the years are progressing and what the situation is for Marie Antoinette. Yes, there are historical inaccuracies but from what I've seen it roughly stays true to the silhouette that was fashionable at the time.
i want to scream that to Little women. Same thing with Hamilton - costumes are not exactly historically accurate /and understandable, it's a play and actors are supposed to be able to change them quick and to sing and dance for 2 hours straight/, but they totally nail the silhouettes and change them as years go by to show that years go by and fashion changes. In Little Women they completely fucked up the time change and fashion change, as they just made them wear the same silhouetted dresses and it was a fucking disaster /i think mina or karolina has a video on it, idk/
i think this is one example of a period movie being perfectly in sync with both the period it depicts and the time it is produced and released. the movie has a very late 90, early 2000s feel to it, and i dont think it could have been done in any other time frame. from the color choices, to the way it displays wealth and excess, its all very interesting to view through the lens of early 2000s trends, consumerism, and how teenagers were viewed and portrayed. another great video as usual!!!!
PERIOD. This outfit shut the inaccurate shows (Reign) down!
The costumes is reign weren't bad. Not everything has to be to historically accurate
Hey Mina, Have you ever consider making a video discussing outfits in videogames? Especially the ones that take place in the past, such as Red Dead Redemption 2, the Wild West and the turning of 19 into the 20 century. Or Bioshock Infinity along with its DLC's, the 1910's and 1950's, respectivaly.
yessss red dead redemption costume review!!!!
If she's into video games, I think that would be fantastic!
I second this
Fallout too, the idea of if in the past a different industrial revolution happened how it would've effected the outfits
Fallout too, the idea of if in the past a different industrial revolution happened how it would've effected the outfits
Mina's outfit alone has Reign _QUACKING_
Let's not talk about Reign, pls
@@CiaLaVirago sorry, I forgot how painful that memory is
lollllllll those FOREVER21 dresses
Of course Reign would quack, they're simply too befuddled a production to be sensible and quake.
THAT WHOLE LOOK IS SO CUTE OMGGGG
i highly recommend seeing the Borgias, Gabriella Pescucci did amazing costumes for that series too
god i was obsessed with that show, to this day i still own the dvds box lol
Those costumes were very pretty
i’m obsessed with the way you do ads it’s just so on brand
I like movies like this where all the things that aren't accurate are purposeful and dramatic instead of just not doing research and having meh costumes that are just giving us a shadow of the thing they're trying to portray
could you analyze Valley Of The Dolls? it was such a good classic movie and book
In the valley of the dolls we sleep
@@diamond5156 got a hole inside of me.... 💊
Yes! I second this!!
@@sanriocondom Born with a void
@@Goldflower220 hard to destroy with love
Can we talk about the fact that the entire reason Marie wasn't having children was because Louis had a deformity with a certain part and refused to do anything with Marie because he was so embarrassed and as soon as he confessed he had it to his doctors they dealt with it and immediately Marie was pregnant
This is a myth.
From what I’ve studied Louis brother (Louis Stanislas) who has a kid before him in the film was the same as him. He and his wife apparently didn’t consummate their marriage for years either.
So when the brother says “Four times last night wasn’t enough.” He is grossly over compensating because nothing was going on between them. Marie’s sister-in-law, Marie Josephine, didn’t have a child before her, or at all, she got pregnant twice 1st in 1774 and 2nd in 1781 and miscarried both times.
But Lord, the pain I felt even watching that scene in the film. The women of court sneering “Give us an heir!” Like my heart broke alongside Marie’s.
I'd love a review about Interview the Vampire, the decades pass through the movie and I didn't see any review about it
I remember someone pointing out about the Converse clip was a representation to show her youthful side.
These costumes are what the 2017 Beauty and the Beast costumes should've been! Correct period silhouettes with a liberal helping of whimsy and fantasy, Literally eye "candy"!
well, correct period silhouettes costume does not quite express Belle's character well yet it's not going well with the movie production design to create interesting look for the movie to reflect the story itself.
Belle is a "most peculiar mademoiselle", a woman that is ahead of her time, she needs to be contrast other women and the castle/the world around her, so the costume designed by Jacqueline Durran is just perfect.
@@miamama9886 pls be serious... it looked like a party city dress. even the 1991 version's dress was much prettier. something can have a modern twist while being pretty/aesthetically pleasing (it can even still have historical accuracy! u can buy something like belle's dress in spirit halloween stores 💀)
@@miamama9886he problem with the 2017 dress isn’t that it isn’t historically accurate (most people don’t expect this of disney movies, and the gp aren’t knowledgable about historical fashion trends by region and decade anyway). The problem is that it looked cheaply made, it was boring, and it didn’t fit well. Even though belle as a character had priorities outside of fashion, there are ways to represent this without a bad dress. Also, it wouldn’t be out of character for her to want to dress nicely for this dinner. Even if you look at her as a ~reader~ who is ~not like the other girls~ the books she’s reading are romances and fairytales- the fancy dress would fit neatly into that. (Edit: i dont think Romeo and Juliet is a romance, but the point still stands)
I love the way you do ads. So many people have sneaky ads or boring ones where they clearly just read copy flatly. You're like: Bitches it an ad!
Love it!
Also 'working cat mom' killed me
Next time "Curse of the Golden Flower" pls that would be perfect
Gong li was stunning in this
Yes please, the costuming was exaggerated but STUNNINGGG I watch just for clothing xD
OMG YES
I looooove the way Mina does her commercials. They’re the one sponsored bits that I never skip
Also I will *never* forget when I went to see a production of the David Adjmi play and during the intermission I told my then-boyfriend that I was interested to see how they handled her execution. He turned to me, eyes wide, and said, “Wait- she dies?!”
To be fair, he was a computer engineering major who, according to him, had only seen “like 10 movies that weren’t Star Wars”. But still!
MINA, your videos are so creative, so thorough, so inventive, they’ve literally filled a void in my heart that I never even knew was there 😫
I was 12 when this came out and I'm positive it shaped my entire personality 😆 other than that, this is a grade A example of how to 'modernize' historical costumes in a good way! So many directors talk about making the characters 'relatable' by stripping everything away from historical looks and making them wear leather pants or something, but this movie gave us accurate silhouettes and fabrics while still feeling fun and fresh!
The soundtrack is literally what made me fall in love with the movie in the first place. I managed to find it on vinyl💖💐
You’re so lucky! This is my favorite soundtrack too to the point I go back to listen to it at least once a month! I’m obsessed with the combination of classical music and 80s indie rock like Adam and the Ants and The cure 💕
I was 9 when I saw the DVD for Marie Antoinette at Walmart and I wanted to get it simply because the aesthetic was so pretty. It made me feel something seeing “MJ” dressed up as an actual princess in the colorful backdrop.
So I always had it in my head that this would be something I would want to watch “when I’m older”
I am very glad you enjoyed it so much :)
The converse are definitely accurate
6:00 That pug is rich than I'll ever be smh😭
I’ve never seen like 90% of the media you talk about, but I still love watching these videos.
14:43 that painting is one of my favorites in history!!!! There was an uproar after it was finished because it looked like undergarments and they made the artist repaint it so that she was wearing a more modest blue dress
The ribbon around the neck might also be a nod to women during & after the French Revolution wearing a red ribbon around their necks as an homage to the people killed at the guillotine
The costumes are 🤌🤌 but I also think Kristen’s performance really sold it
the scene where she is running and the strokes plays in the background, *chef's kiss*.
Sorry to be late. They recommended it when I was touring Versailles, because it was actually filmed there.I loved it because they showed what a little girl she was when she was sent into that mess.
The way you make the ads is SO creative!
This is one of my favorite movies thanks to the costumes, the soundtrack and the general mood that Sofia gave to all the scenes. It feels like a dream world, but it's suffocating at the same time. Marie and her friends give it a fresh, fun, but also a sad vibe. I felt really connected with that movie when I was a teenager, and I can remember clearly how I felt back then whenever I watch it. Plus I love Avril 14 by Aphex Twin, and Opus 36 by Dustin O'Halloran, which I found through this movie.
Probably the most beautiful film to look at. It’s definitely eye candy
The “I Want Candy” scene was definitely the best scene in cinematic history 💅✨ 🍰 🎀
I remember loving this movie back in 9th grade when we were studying the French Revolution. I always thought Marie was treated unfairly and was misunderstood by the masses. I loved the way the movie incorporated a contemporary soundtrack into a period film as well, and, now, I am convinced I need to watch the movie again, since I haven't seen it in years.
P.S.: I'd love to see a costume analysis of Rodger's & Hammerstein's Cinderella (the 1997 film). I think that would be a fun video.
AHHHH i love everything about this!! the wig, the makeup, the fan & the fact that i've been excited for this vid all week!!
I love that movie but I just can't stomach rewatching or or thinking on Marie Antoinette too long, because it just makes the think of the awful fates of her children and it just makes me so sad. It's a shame, because I think the movie is great, but the subject matter is really just so dark.
I lost it when you said 'she looks like a little sweet thing' I don't know why but it is just the funniest line delivery...
when you think about the fact louis and marie couldn’t produce an heir because they weren’t sure what they were doing it seems much more… innocent and normal. it almost makes you forget that everyone was watching and waiting for them to finally consummate their marriage.
i love your old timey ad breaks, so creative 🕊
I think you have THE best ads of any TH-cam channel I know. They're creative and fun and you actually put effort into the filming
The soundtrack was so good and how the visuals aspects are so appealing giving the viewer what an art kid would expect for a Baroque scenario. I love the movie
I’ve been waiting for this one!! You really blessed us all with this wig🤩
I usually skip passed sponsors, but yours was so pleasing to watch that I just couldn’t 😭 you have such an amazing editing style and just overall lovely vintage aesthetic ideas.
The quality of your ad✨✨ I hope these sponsers are paying you well 😩
The dress she wears for her wedding is supposed to be a Grand Habit, or a court dress, not a française. Also, her zone front dress matches with paintings and illustrations of dresses like the robe a la polonaise from the 1770s, so it wouldn't be out of place before 1774. The ribbon on the neck was actually a very popular acessory in the 18th century, you can find it in several paintings.
Another fun fact about how she had to completely transform herself when she went from Austria to France was that they changed her name, she was born Maria Antonia.
But she was called Antonia since her sisters were all Maria
i’m here from jenn im’s recommendation of
your channel. you did this SO well. marie antoinette was my favorite film when it came out for pretty much the ✨aethetics✨ of it too & i think your breakdown does it allllll the justice. your research was impeccable. bravo!
love your take on ads. i don't skip them and i'm not annoyed by them at all. love you bunches
I have fought people about the “I want candy” scene because it is amazing
I love this movie. The costumes are to die for and Marie Antoinette is one of my favorite historical figures.
the props really tie this whole video together and i love it so much 💕
Hearing you talk about fashion is so informative and fun. I'm loving your channel!!!
We need a video about "Memoirs of a Geisha" next plzzzzz ❤️
Aaaaagh the inaccuracies in the costumes, hair, and makeup in that movie really grind my gears. Especially the hair and makeup. The costumes I’m willing to give them a pass for because for the most part the inaccuracies come from using the wrong colors and seasonal motifs, stuff like that, but I get in a movie it’s useful to confine different characters to certain color palettes to communicate something about who they are. But the hair. Oh god the hair. It didn’t look anything like how real maiko or geiko style their hair. It was much closer to a real life interpretation of the hairstyles in the animated version of Mulan. And the makeup. Geisha don’t wear eyelashes, they just don’t do that kind of thing😡 also where was the red eyeliner?
“Fools Rush in” is my favorite song from this movie!
Watching your sponsoring ad made me realize how much your channel has grown :)) you're the best Mina!
You don't know how much I needed this video! I was looking for a video like this the other day
I wish I could buy clothes like this in stores. Also Mina is my new crush. Thanks for coming to my pep talk.
this was probably my favorite kirsten dunst role and i was absolutely obsessed with the costumes
I love the way Mina always turns ads into something creative 💕 Excellent video, very interesting as always!
I'd love to see you analyzing "Ever after" someday
OMG THE AD IS GENIUS!!!!! super on brand for your aesthetic