I laugh so hard when daphne was like "gimme the special dress" and there's all this excitement about it, when she arrives at the party everybody gasps.. and she look exactly the same as every other dress and scene
Tight lacing a corset (without a chemise no less!) to wear with an empire waisted dress is like the modern day equivalent of wearing a sexy push up bra and spanx to wear with an oversized hoodie.
Actually, I really liked that Daphne got married when she did. Most stories around women end with marriage. By placing her end goal at the middle-ish of the season, it’s like stating that it’s not the end of her life, and that mixed with the issues she faces in her marriage show a different storyline and I’m grateful for it
@@izzakhalid2495 fr the end of the last movie got me sad as fuck for 3 days straight because someone commented that in the book peter said something like "in the place between your dreams and waking up, i’ll be there waiting" idk not that exactly but likee GEEEZZZ I WAS ALREADY SAD
As a black viewer I was actually very pleased they didn’t make race a pivotal aspect of the plot. Whenever black characters are introduced to a plot their whole story line is centred on just their race and it’s honestly exhausting. The characters are subject to ridicule and constantly have to fight against racial issues. Honestly I loved watching the black characters just be humans, fall in love, and have good time. It was so refreshing. This mad made it so easy to fall into the plot and just watch to enjoy rather than worry when the poc character is going to be ridiculed neck.
I was sooo happy they did this. They only mentioned it once about how the king married a black women which helped make that change. I’m genuinely tired of watching race issues in shows and movies for the time being considering I’m already dealing with it in real life. Everyday.
IMO that’s exactly why the plot point of the marriage between king and queen ending segregation shouldn’t have been mentioned. I was all for the absent racial tensions plot, but acting like everyone had been segregated until the point of marriage added it back in for me- but also never addressed how society magically wasn’t biased anymore. And honestly, it didn’t really help the overall plot of Simon and Daphne’s relationship progression. If they had just left that out I think the story would have been better. I am not a BIPOC tho so my perspective may totally be off!
@crush broke girl pls stfu. the poc actors were amazing and actually had talent (exhibit a: lady danbury, simon, etc) to the point where i cared most about those characters. u saying that they were just used to fill a skin color quota is literally disgusting and reveals how u truly feel about poc being cast in shows. also i love daphne but she was by far the most uninteresting character and unfortunately, the actress didn't do her character justice.
Even though it wasn’t historically accurate, I really enjoyed how the hairstylists incorporated black/natural hairstyles like braids, afros, and dreadlocks into Queen Charlotte’s outfits.
I couldn’t stop laughing when the prince gave her the necklace. It’s like, “Hello, I’m an actual prince from an actual royal family who’s intent on wooing you, so I got you this necklace from Claire’s.”
Yes! I'm almost positive that several of the necklaces on the show were actually just contemporary wedding jewelry from Etsy! Did they have a sponsorship or something??
@@rkgk1517 lol i know youre just joking but she Mina mentioned that they had specific jewelers creating it or something like that but yeah at one point I couldn't tell if the jewelry was pretty or not
I thought it was nice, and the necklace seemed period accurate. Idk. The only weird thing was that she wasn't wearing a necklace at all whilst she was wearing one in all previous ball-scenes...
i rlly think they should have just left that out and had diversity without an explanation. the unnecessary explanation took away from the fantasy aspect a bit imo
@@professorhistoire5349 yeah but then you have people who say the opposite. Personally I wish it was left out too, but people can't just let us have nice things without making it hard.
@@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty In my mind, the worst part was that it was so halfway done and advertised as something that was going to be discussed. If the casting was just entirely colorblind and race wasn't discussed, that would be fine. Or, if the race was a factor in casting and something that was explored throughout the show, that would be cool too! It just has to be done right. But the way they just tired to have both the good parts of discussing race (poc being interested in the show and they get to say "look as us and our diversity woooooo") and the good parts of not discussing race (they don't actually have to put in the work and effort to craft a good story with meaningful representation) just made it feel not good and completely underdone.
@@Megan-sb2ju yeah, just what I meant was more of you can't do it right don't do it at all. It honestly wouldn't have mattered too much if they just did it without saying anything compared to what we got.
I made a joke about how ridiculous that tight lacing corset scene was to my parents and they got so angry because they genuinely believe tight lacing was the norm throughout history and that only rich women wore corsets... This is exactly why movies need to stop including those scenes, they make no sense especially in the regency era.
I agree about the racial conversation. Up until that point I just assumed the cast was diverse because who cares, it's not like it's a historical drama, but it felt odd that they were like "the white king married a black woman and now everything is cool"
It also didn't make sense because simon swore his family bloodline would be ending with him, but his ancestors can't have been nobility for long then...
This is so true. I can think of many 'bad guys' who have green and gold themes. I guess it's to reinforce the idea that they're excessively wealthy and evil...?
personally I didn't mind the inaccuracies since the show clearly was going for a fantastical version of the regency world, not a historically accurate one. Such a good point that more could have been done with day-time dress and eveningwear though! I think that would have absolutely added to the story. And would have loved to see some chemises
Indeed, fantastical. Once I accepted "Bridgerton" as fantasy, Regency Romance fanfiction, I was much more comfortable with it, LOL. No bonnets, few gloves, few chaperones, etc. etc. But ... fun!
Honestly you're so right about the show being super lackluster. I didn't find the main two actors to be compelling at all (tbh she looked like a child compared to him and it was a bit off-putting at times), it fully excused marital r*pe and even made it look like Daphne was justified in what she did, and they handled the entire idea of race during this period, which could have been really interesting, very strangely (the king married a black queen like 20 years ago and all of a sudden Black people are landed gentry during this hyper-colonial period). It just once again gave this systemic issue the "one individual fixes it all" treatment. Thanks so much for this video!
Agreed! Especially on Dpahne looking way too young for Simon...and the way they styled her hair doesn't help. She looks like a live action Wendy Darling honestly
Yes yes yes yes! That marital rape scene made me so disgusted with Daphne's character, and the writers for writing it off like it was okay (be it because they were married, or that the victim was a male, which are excuses given for rape all too often). Then for the series to just end off with him deciding to stay with her and have children as if nothing happened, it was absolutely deplorable (and an awful message that continuous fighting, and even forced sexual contact in relationships will allow arguments to go in your favor with little to no consequence).
It is weird when all the sudden the black people that is older than the queen became a duke or other old black aristocracy without any backlash from the caucasian aristocracy. It's a fantasy, if you too lazy to dabble about racism maybe make a society where race isn't a barrier or make it normal back in the story that all race is equal.
The whole thing felt very...fanfiction to me. Like super sexy/romantic ideas but generally bad storetelling and the plot just kind of flops around not making a ton of sense...
yeah but what if it was the other way around and simon would forcibly impregnate daphne, completely dismissing her will not to have children and act like he has the right to? it would be a completely different conversation and that, in my opinion, is messed up.
@@luanasiros9480 It was sort of revengeful, maybe, but also, i think, quite empowering, because she should have been told the exact story of why he chose not to have children. he was taking advantage of her ignorance regarding the sexual act, which is quite humiliating. she basically showed him in the most concise and meaningful way possible that now, she knew. about his “omission,” about sex, etc. she basically became a mature woman in that moment. plus, his decision of not having kids even after his father was dead is stupid. it’s not like his father was able to see him from his grave and he had already broken the vow by marrying, so, it wasn’t as unbendable as he was stubbornly struggling to believe.
honestly, what made me uncomfortable the most is the, clearly older men pining for young/underage girls, even daphne and simon, but i just blame the writers for including alot of problematic shit.
@@genericusername702 do you think it's because she's probably blue blood and for them it is classier to have not a lot of things going on as opposed to the featheringtons who seem like they're new money thus why the embellishments.
@@MsDreamer1994 I was thinking less embellishment on garments and more of the jackets, chemise, shifts, etc. I definitely think less embellishments on her dresses and garments make sense but to not have many pieces to wear along with her dresses felt strange to me.
I wish they had just went with pretending that the society in-universe was just always integrated. Especially considering that real life Queen Charlotte has been white-washed and, like you mentioned, all the racism and slavery going on at the time, I think the idea of a "colour-blind" reimagining is a lot more interesting than Shonda's insistence on the power of interracial dating (which almost always includes one white partner). Also there were so many beautiful dark skinned Black people as extras and I don't understand why not any of them could have had a speaking role if this show wants to call itself diverse. Though that's a Netflix problem more than anything I guess. But as a dark skinned Black woman who loves period pieces and historical costume, it was such a let down. Also I liked Lady Danbury's character and styling the most too but would it have killed anyone on set to pluck the hairline on that wig?? (EDIT: I have since read up a lot more on Queen Charlotte and now see that her African ancestry was too many generations removed to consider the actual person as mixed race.)
The real life Queen Charlotte was a white woman. The ancestor people point to is a woman called, Madragana, who was born in 1230. It's disputed whether Madragana was Hispanic or Moorish. Queen Charlotte was born in 1744. There is only one portrait and one quote which people use to back up this claim about Queen Charlotte. All her other portraits portray a period typical German woman. She wasn't biracial or mixed race. I have a not insignificant amount of First Nations ancestry (through one of my great-parents, with the rest being of Northern, Central and Western European ancestry), and I think it would be completely insane to consider myself biracial. Madragana would have contributed almost nothing to Charlotte's genetic make up after 15 generations.
@@headphonic8 oh no there were still many inaccuracies in Emma BUT at least they did not wore their hair open with modern days curls (which also did not happen in Bridgerton I think). But I was talking more about the costumes. Bridgertons costumes are colorful as well but they did not keep up with the historically right shape of the garments. And plainly speaking the costumes in Emma are just a thousand times more stunning!
I know it's not historically accurate because it is historical fiction but it has a special place in my heart. As a black girl seeing people who look like me in these extravagant outfits during a period where we wouldnt be in such high society instead as slaves made me feel happy and appreciated. I also love how colorful and vivid the outfits and scenes are reminded me of Alice in Wonderland The race relations scene was a bit off putting cause it felt disingenuous. The one thing I love though is how Queen Charlottes hair would occasionally have natural hair textures incorporated into the wigs and I thought that was a lovely touch
I agree 100% I’ve been obsessed with period dramas and I’ve always thought that the costumes would look sooo good on black actors and Bridgerton delivered! My favorite part was when black characters had their 19th century “bonnets” lol
Thank you for bringing up the weird throw away line “explaining” why there were black people present in high society. I thought it was so weird. Like it’s mentioned one time a couple episodes in and then never again? It’s not like that was even a main point of struggle for anyone. Simon wasn’t adverse to falling in love with daphne because of their different races. I was really happy that they were just making it a normal thing, felt weird that they all of a sudden wanted to explain it.
yesss!! the moment where daphne was meant to be wearing her freak’em dress to make the duke jealous she looked exactly the same as always and it was so disappointing
A lot of people complain about in book reviews and discussions, too. It’s a huge controversy in the series but sadly still a lot of people don’t notice it. Don’t worry you aren’t alone!
@@cognacszn7789 in the show I'm pretty sure its between the Duke and Daphne. I believe it was when she found out that the Duke could in fact have kids.
Remember: if the assailant is a woman and a victim a man, it doesn't count~! Because men aaaalways wanna have sex. Duh! And we women are just too fragile and pure to ever so such a thing! /s
@@IceQueen975 legit what I’ve read. People defending daphne being like “she was uneducated” “she didn’t know what she was doing”. Like consent isn’t that hard and she was educated before doing it, that’s why she did it!
I had a hard time with Daphne looking like Wendy from Peter Pan every single time she wore a blue(ish) dress... I honestly thought they might have been inspired by Wendy before you pointed out that blue was the Bridgertons' colour.
@@LynnHermione that’s not why, they had bonnets in Emma 2020 and several other movies. Hollywood doesn’t think they are sexy or attractive to the modern audience.
I found that so ludicrous- that they would go out with uncovered heads and no jacket, cape or coat would have been unthinkable. Even today, we rarely go outside without and outdoor piece of clothing (jacket, sun hat, warm hat etc) It really detracted from the real-ness of it and made it feel like a play...
I was the same about the Prince tbh. I kept shouting "Just marry the Prince for gods sake!" towards the TV. I mean, he was lovely and gentle and clearly in love. Had I been Daphne I'd married him on the spot, not matter my conflicting feelings about the guy who clearly doesn't want to marry.
SAME ! Oh my god he was sweet, understanding, nice, didn’t have commitment issue and wanted the same thing in life as her ! What more do you waaaannnt ? I wouldn’t even have had any thoughts to spare about the Duke, let alone any feelings 🤡
the reason they didn’t put the wedding at the end of the season is because that would only play into the idea that they’re challenging, that a marriage is the one moment in a woman’s life that gives her value. it’s challenging the idea that marriage is the end all be all happily ever after that their mothers say it is. it’s to show that daphne is important before and after she is married, that she has value regardless of her marital status. life doesn’t feel fulfilled just because a girl got married, she still has trials and triumphs.
It is also because it is based on a series of books, each book has one Bridgerton as the protagonist, that's why Daphne and the Duke were married so quickly since in season 2 they are going to focus more on Anthony.
In the Bridgerton book series, several of the novels have the weddings happen about halfway through the book, and I really enjoyed that. It was a refreshing departure from the "happily ever after" trope. I hope they keep that in the succeeding seasons!
i wasn't a huge fan of the film itself (i have a bias for the bbc miniseries adaptation) but i greatly admired how accurate they were with their costumes -- and not just accurate but also FULLY utilize the style and lean into the colours to appeal to the viewer without compromising on accuracy! Emma 2020 showed you could be super accurate to the time period's costumes and it WON'T be boring!! and i learned so much from youtubers like Mina and Karolina who commented on Emma 2020 that when i watched Bridgerton all i could think of was "Emma did it better!!"
This was a whole thing from the books. Her mom always putting her in ill fitting clothes in ugly bright colors. They briefly alluded to it in the show.
The point is that she's dressed by her mother who basically tries to squeeze her into smaller sized regardless of how she looks on them. The whole family is supposed to look garish, badly dressed and slightly out of fashion so it's not costume designers failing at their jobs, it's costume designers creating an specific image
Your reaction shows that the costume designers did their job right. Lady Featherington is well known for her horrendous taste in clothes and her children have no say on the matter.
The writers of bridgerton when Daphne sexually assaulted and tried to baby trap Simon: 👼😴🕊️🤗✅ The witters of bridgerton when Simon lied to Daphne about why he didnt want kids: 🤬😾👺💢😠😡😤
The "king married a black woman" explanation is so cheap, like, as a mixed black person KNOW its not that easy lmao I'd prefer they simply imply this is an alternate history where racism was simply never a problem in the first place, i mean we're already expecting historical inaccuracies and romantization
They did it for the haters and other simple minded people who managed to complain anyway and wanted the show to be canceled because of its diversity. The thing is that, not all audiences around the world have the same approach on the matter and that needed to be added for the forever perplexed ones.
@Stacy Verre main characters never end up with the people that would make more sense. But in defense of the show, they didn't give the prince enough time to show what he is truly like beyond the surface of what Daphne sees. Still, no matter how handsome the Duke is, I would never picked him just because he is emotionally constipated all the time and I don't waste time thinking I can change him but that's just me. 😅
I mean she only picked him to avoid controversy, bc Cressida would’ve snitched. But I’m pretty sure she would’ve picked the duke regardless. #theprincedeservedbetter
yesss everyone i know was shipping the duke and daphne and i was like : why do u guys like the duke he literally never communicates and can't take a fucking decision that isnt ruled by his daddy issues and ever growing need of therapy. she could have the sweet prince who would gladly start a whole family with u and cherish you. why are you so dumb daphne
Thank god Im not alone ! Friedrich looks at her like she the 8th wonder of the world/the Messiah and were supposed to think that marrying daddy issue grr angry grrr boi is the right course of action ? Wut
Fr, like at first I thought it was in present times bc of the song choices. But when I realized it was a set in a certain time period, I was shocked. So honestly I’m not even worried about the other inconsistencies this show has 💀😂
Right? I think it’s funny how upset some people are about the costumes... everything in the show being inaccurate. That was never the point of the show ffs
Daphne is honestly very boring to me, like she’s supposed to be “perfect” and her struggles are that she’s actually not “perfect”, like we get it but it’s still a very used trope and she manages it very bad.
True! She just seems like a one sided personality! The writers also didn't spice the character much! I much prefer Eloise and Penelope as lead characters
i don't think she was boring. i mean, her entire life she was taught that she needed to be perfect in order to get married to a decent man & that nothing else mattered. and as the oldest daughter, she was the first one in line to be married and her sister's futures depended on if/who daphne married. so obviously when things didn't work out and no one was interested in her anymore, it was really devastating and scary for her, and she was willing to do anything to make sure that she was eligible.
I think it was needed because a lot of people at first were wondering why blacks were being represented in a show that was primarily based in the 18th century. Without that background story, it would have left many people still confused. You have to remember, we are talking about the union between the king and queen, not the prince and princess like meghan markle and prince harry. During the 18th century the queen was the one to ensure that Britian colonized a lot of ethnic countries and was the main reason behind slavery and the division between whties and blacks. Obviously as time went on race relationshions changed, as did the laws and statutes to encamping the diversifying and advancement of european countries under british ruling, however this show depicts what life would have been like under differnt rulling and laws. It's actually very inresting. Many people don't understand this aspect unless you are a history lover like me.
I agree, until they decide to explain it I was like “oh this is a universe where the Moors stayed powerful and grew up in and beside the nobles of Europe”. Then they said that and I had to imagine how apparently in less then 50 years some families had become equally and sometimes MORE powerful to white nobles. That pulled me more out of universe then ANYTHING. they would be considered new money still at that point.
@@Joseph-zd7kg I think in a show you made up, you shouldn’t have to explain why black people exist. Most people just think it’s just a choice until you decide to explain it like that
After the marital rape scene I was done with Daphne. Her character was already not very interesting. The way she painted herself as the victim to justify her actions was disgusting.
@@jeankaye3535 Consent means voluntary, clear, continuous, mutually understandable permission given by words or actions. Giving consent to one form of sexual activity does not imply consent to other forms of sexual activity. You can withdraw consent at any point if you feel uncomfortable, which is what he did by saying "wait" multiple times but she kept going.
(Edit : because of a reply of someone, I now have to clarify that I am disagreeing with not liking Daphne painting herself as a victim, not that it is not rape.) I disagree which is because of this comment I saw on another comment on this video, which I agree with = "Not really trying to be insensitive to the issue that is being brought to light here or up for discussion. But she didn't lure him into the bedroom, he fetched her and asked her if she was ready for bed to which she folllowed him and they started making love. During the scene she postions herself on top and it seems to catch the Duke by Surprise. But further on he realizes that he is close to release to which he says "wait, wait" because it seems as though she wouldn't move or have been able to move in time for him to pull out. But he could have easily maneuvered over it, she wasn't overpowering him. He just thought she knew that she was to get off once he was close. Also keep in mind she knows very little about sex, and she was not educated about the matter propeprly by her mother, it was her lady's maid who explained it to her because she was probably confused as to why he was pulling out I guess. She didn't move in order to test a theory because she wanted to see if what she had been told was true. If you watch the scene again you'll realize that the issue or that scene only happened because there was miscommunication or lack of communication between the two. The Duke said "I thought you knew how a child came to be" and she indicated that she didn't and thought it was a case where he had fertility issues. Plus I mean, it was sonewhat folly of him to even assume she knew becsuse she didn't even know about masturbating and the sorts. But I digress, I think the biggest issue with the couple has always been miscommunication or a lack of it, we even saw that issue when he came to her room at the inn and he was expalining the reason he had been so distant is that he thought she hated him and she expressed the same. They have always seen to be on different pages with commuication which affected their relatolnship. And in all fairness Daphne is a victim, she is a victim of a society that does not bat an eyelash to marrying off young girls who are unaware of sexual relations. And while her and the Duke and feelings for each other, he is the one who kissed her at a public event knowing fully well he did not want to marry or have kids. But irrespective whenI watched that scene I didn't perceive either to be a victim, just two people who clearly had alot of shit to work out between them. I mean ...they hardly knew each other." What she did was wrong, and is marital rape, however it makes complete sense for Daphne to have no idea why it is even wrong and it was clear she had no idea that what she did is anything bad. The only complaint I'd have is that they didn't properly show us that Daphne realized that what she did is rape and bad, and how she learns off of that. However her painting herself as the victim after this makes complete sense, as she literally had just found out how people even get pregnant and as the comment I copied above says, was testing that out. It's easy for people to have issue with the way Daphne was portrayed after this scene, but its very realistic because of the ridiculous amount of ''sex-ed'' she's ever had which is 0, she didn't even know what masturbating was, so it definitely would not make sense for her to know about marital rape and that forcing him to do this counts as that.
@@yulana990 I am not reading all of that. But I looked at a little of it. She may have not lured him into the bedroom but she didn't listen to when he was alarmed at what she continued to do. You can't test things out theories on people because you feel you have the right to. Especially when it has to do with sexual interactions. Victim of society or not it can never justify behavior like that. If you are making these excuses for Daphne I'm scared to find out how you would deal with situations like that in real life. I was upset when the Duke kissed her in the garden too, putting her livelihood in jeopardy like that. But at the end of the day Daphne agreed to marry him knowing that he could not give her kids. Whether it was a choice or not she does not have the right to control that matter. Yes they sorely need better communication and understanding of eachother but that is not a excuse. Nothing is an excuse for raping someone. The fact that the writers do not make her acknowledge that what she did was wrong and reward her with a child at the end of season one is upsetting. If she had not victimized herself in that situation and owned up to her mistakes, I would have no problem with them having a child in the future. Because of Daphne and Simon's lack of development as a couple I can not see them working out at the moment.
TW: sexual assault I was very disappointed when the sexual assault scene happened, it was not properly addressed and where with the season ended I highly doubt it’ll ever be brought up again.
this is my biggest problem with the show. it basically ruined everything that wasn’t ruined but the costume, the forced marriage, or the unnecessary race explanation.
@@EH23831 TW: sexual assault/ rape towards the end of episode 5 (?). Daphne has started to work out that Simon was pulling the wool over her eyes when it came to him having the ability/how a child was actually conceived. After asking her maid how it actually happens, she lures him to the bedroom and they start to have sex. She spins around so that she is on top of him and keeps going (despite his protests) until he ejaculates into her. To force a man to empregnate you against his consent is rape. Daphne then proceeds to paint herself as the victim. Whilst Simon lying to her was wrong, she should not/the show should not have gone to the lengths of assault to confront him about it. Nor did the show address the issue and continued the narrative that Daphne was the victim. She could have confronted him verbally which might have suited the “Daphne is a victim” narrative much better and might have made her more compelling as a character. For me, her character was not particularly interesting and her motives confusing, and this action made her just the worst.
@@Kit-ul4fd Not really trying to be insensitive to the issue that is being brought to light here or up for discussion. But she didn't lure him into the bedroom, he fetched her and asked her if she was ready for bed to which she folllowed him and they started making love. During the scene she postions herself on top and it seems to catch the Duke by Surprise. But further on he realizes that he is close to release to which he says "wait, wait" because it seems as though she wouldn't move or have been able to move in time for him to pull out. But he could have easily maneuvered over it, she wasn't overpowering him. He just thought she knew that she was to get off once he was close. Also keep in mind she knows very little about sex, and she was not educated about the matter propeprly by her mother, it was her lady's maid who explained it to her because she was probably confused as to why he was pulling out I guess. She didn't move in order to test a theory because she wanted to see if what she had been told was true. If you watch the scene again you'll realize that the issue or that scene only happened because there was miscommunication or lack of communication between the two. The Duke said "I thought you knew how a child came to be" and she indicated that she didn't and thought it was a case where he had fertility issues. Plus I mean, it was sonewhat folly of him to even assume she knew becsuse she didn't even know about masturbating and the sorts. But I digress, I think the biggest issue with the couple has always been miscommunication or a lack of it, we even saw that issue when he came to her room at the inn and he was expalining the reason he had been so distant is that he thought she hated him and she expressed the same. They have always seen to be on different pages with commuication which affected their relatolnship. And in all fairness Daphne is a victim, she is a victim of a society that does not bat an eyelash to marrying off young girls who are unaware of sexual relations. And while her and the Duke and feelings for each other, he is the one who kissed her at a public event knowing fully well he did not want to marry or have kids. But irrespective whenI watched that scene I didn't perceive either to be a victim, just two people who clearly had alot of shit to work out between them. I mean ...they hardly knew each other.
Her identity wasn't revealed until like book 4 in the series. The series was totally sensationalized compared to the books...new romances added, new characters added. Also would have been better if the series was color blind...totally agree.
Love how the gaudy and tacky costumes were my favourite 😂😂 It broke up the monotony of the Bridgerton colour palette and was far more visually arresting. As you pointed out, it was somewhat reminiscent of the stepmother and ugly sisters costumes in Cinderella, which were EXQUISITE. Probably my favourite costume design ever. I dream about Cate Blanchette in that green 😍😍😍
@@danielzhou2972 I love the ball scene, but miffed that there was only one Indian, one generic Muslim (draped in Swarovski), one Chinese (in a mismatched 1930's qipao with train & mid-1880's liangbatou), & one Japanese I mean there's also the Korean peninsula, the East Indies, the Philippines, Siam/Thailand, Vietnam, Myanmar, Mongolia...wtf!!!
ANd WHY did her wardrobe not change when she became Duchess?? I know they were trying to keep her look pared back and simple, but really! So unbelievable that she wouldn’t step it up when she’s Her Grace! (It would have been required of her even if she didn’t want to!) An excellent example of this is the miniseries “The Buccaneers” (from the 1990s I think) An innocent young lady becomes a Duchess and her wardrobe is in keeping.
I don’t mind that the Bridgerton costumes are anachronistic and candy-colored, but I find the designs extremely unappealing. I also find it baffling to go as far as to set the story in a post-racial-parallel-Earth-Regency era, and still focus mainly on white women. 🤷♂️
YES! Despite people of colour being seen as equals supposedly, they're still a huge minority in the show. Most of the main characters were still white, with a minority of Black people and almost no Asians. There was so much potential with a fantasy where poc are at the same level but nope. The story was still about white women.
it pissed me off that the darkest-skinned characters in the show were the deadbeat father, an elderly maid of one of the white families, and a woman in the queen’s court who doesn’t speak. only light-skinned half-white black people get to see themselves happy and thriving in the regency era, i guess
I mean, I'd give it some slack since it is England, which is full of mostly white people. Post racial doesn't necessarily mean the population of each race is going to be proportional in a specific country. And with the show's focus on families, unless entire families are multi-racial, most of the characters are going to be of the same race. I think a lot of people conflate anti or non racist societies with being completely and perfectly diverse and fully representative of every race...
It's based on a book series and it's so different. The Mc isn't considered that most coveted person she was more of a friend to all the guys and they never say her as a partner that's why she makes the deal with Simon. Also in the books she's a lot more witty and funny and is definitely not the perfect girl type person
I think they change this to compare here and Eloise who is the exact opposite. Just like how Simon and Daphne's story is the opposite of Collin and Marina's.
exactly!!!! the personalities and dynamics of all the characters is why i even liked the books, sucks that thats what they took out when they made the show
the costumes were appalling, ESPECIALLY the accessories,. I know they were trying to make it look 'modern', but having everyone at the ball wear tiaras?? it just looked so childish and careless, and made the show look like it was aimed at a younger, less knowledgeable audience. - which wouldn't make sense either because there were so many raunchy scenes.
I felt the same about about the show "justification" for the "integration" in society! It would be better if they simply did not explain. And I wish they had a dark skin black girl/young woman with importance in the show
@@amuniksmart9284 I didn’t even notice anything with the eyebrows, I was much too distracted by the hairline that looked like it was drawn on with a compass
I think the point of the tight-lacing was specifically to show the attitudes of the Featheringtons, especially Lady Featherington. If I'm not mistaken, there wasn't any other tight-lacing and I think it was meant to demonstrate how intense Lady Featherington is about appearances and restricting her daughters, and honestly just in general the fact the Featheringtons tend to dress kind of tacky. Their clothes are over the top, but not in a pretty way, and I think the tight-lacing further emphasizes they're not really with the actual trends of the period.
Katarina Dulude but it makes no sense. The stays don’t cling to the waist and the dresses make all their curves ago away. Not to mention there wasn’t enough boning for it to do anything.
@@jen.m.3781 I know it doesn't make sense in terms of the clothes themselves, I just mean from a storytelling perspective I think that's what the intention was for depicting it, informing the audience of the Featheringtons' characters
Super honestly? I kinda liked the Featheringtons' style way better than the Bridgertons'! Their dresses were just so colorful and interesting, in general... Am I just too tacky? 😅
I agree. Lady Featherington seems like one of those ‘I lived through it, so you have to’ parents. She had to squeeze into an orange and a half, so her daughter has to. It sets the tone for her character.
I liked most of the dresses, but by the end of the show I felt like I'd seen all of daphne and marina's dressed before because of how similar they looked. Also Marina was so robbed in terms of fashion. I feel like her cunning personality and beauty would've attracted more statement dresses but she wears SUPER simple dresses the whole time (maybe this is because lady featherington doesn't want her to look too good and buys her simple dresses but then that should've been addressed in the show)
I'd also argue that if one wanted to make a POC inclusive period drama, the regency is an IDEAL era because the tight ringlets and simple, puffed hairstyles inspired by ancient can be done so beautifully with black hair and the whole time Marina's hair was just... hanging. Insane misses opportunity
I actually like the queen keeping to the "old" style was fitting considering the state of her husband. It made a statement that their marriage is stale.
@@meridaskywalker7816 also that she’s the Queen and no one follows her fashion. Queens were trend setters in court fashion, so why didn’t anyone aspire to look like her in Bridgerton?
I was happy they got married in the middle so we could move the story along and see how their marriage would be. So many movies and tv shows end with the couple getting together but that’s not always the interesting part. I felt the show picked up after they got married. And it felt different from every other romance which was a breath of fresh air for me personally.
@@gleewhoseline198 I found the plot entirely too predictable and boring, and the costumes clearly were nothing worth while, so I only got a few episodes in before turning it off. I’m extremely cynical and not interested in romance plots though, so that probably didn’t help.
I couldn’t finish it the corset slander was so annoying I don’t understand why period dramas do that LIKE IT WASNT A POPULAR THING TO BE TIGHT LACED!!!!
I just wanted to say, though I do not know how accurate the Queens wigs were (but from what I saw they look more like Marie Antoinette styles), I liked how some wigs were styled with dreadlocks and braids, and the queen being black it was a great way of modernizing her hair.
i though her dresses were really pretty and also at that time at youthful glow was very attractive and good for attracting suitors which was the whole point lmao
The prince was so nice and accepting he listened to her and didn’t fight when she refused him even when she’d made it seem as though they were courting and ugh we could’ve had it all
OH SAME. The prince was sweet, not super bound by tradition since he took her to see the boxing, and seemed to just want a family in England, separate from the court in Prussia!
I wondered if they put that scene in to balance the cringy scene where the old man is looking Marina over and insisting that she show him her teeth? Both scenes rubbed me the wrong way.
I also think its dangerous to use Queen Charlotte as a shuttlecock for this sort of thing. She was a real person, some people claim she was black but...she wasn't. Its a bit icky. They should have had a fictional queen as well...because you know as well as I do, that some people will think its accurate. (i.e. reign, the tudors, borgias, etc etc)
everyone blamed collin and marina for falling in love way too fast but no one questioned daphne and simon even though the mother knew they weren’t in love first
Marina never fell in love. And it's about the age differences. I know it makes no sense, but women had to marry younger than men, and Daphne is the eldest girl, and Colin is almost the youngest boy. So yeah...
What? Cotton poly blend isn't historically accurate??? I love how bad the show is it's verging on camp like there's just blatant zippers and modern hair and makeup and CORSETS ON BARE SKIN
I assumed it was supposed to be an over the top, campy, Regency-esque soap opera. I mean if the violin covers of pop songs weren't a dead giveaway, I don't know what was lol.
@@emmetharrigan5234 I didn't know anything about it going in and I found it entertaining for what it was. If it WAS trying to be a serious/legit Regency piece then it sure failed horribly...
What's so bad with camp? I thought it was cool and over the top lol. I love when directors just have fun with it. Not everything has to be accurate to the time etc. We have plenty of that give us pop violin covers and fun costumes and over the top drama that is honestly rlly stupid but gets at u anyways lolol
This was lovely to watch! Explains a lot, I was quite confused when Penelope commented about not being able to wear dresses like that because as you said we see her wear pink dresses in front of her mother. Also, I had no clue Daphne wore that many dresses they look so similar. Must have taken a lot to make all of that though so hats off to them!
I thought the costumes were basic. They were colorful, but just not fashionable...It was like the costume director commissioned dozens upon dozens of dresses because they needed them; in so doing, there wasn't much thought put into each individual dress.
the music was the worst part for me. hearing a string arrangement of thank u, next took me completely out of the show. i wish they had chosen at the very least actual classical music
Even the classical music they did use was not of the time period. Sienna the opera singer sings "Barcarole" from "The Tales of Hoffman", which was first presented in Paris in 1881, and "The 2nd Waltz" by Shostakovich was composed for the soundtrack for The First Echelon (1955-1956) soviet film.
it's literally just bad writing like it's a huge cliche and it doesn't even make sense with what the viewer can clearly see on the screen, that the dresses have no waistline so it makes no sense 🤦♀️
I totally agree with everything you said! I was so confused when they showed the Queen and her court constantly wearing 1700s clothing even though she literally is the Queen and should always be fashionable. I think Bridgerton is a good show to binge, but I just couldn‘t sympathise with any of the characters (except for Eloise in the end).😅
YES, it would make sense for her to dress maybe a LITTLE older, but the dresses she was wearing were literally from when Queen Charlotte was like 12 irl
Not really Mozart did actually play for the Queen when he was a young boy and it was because of her blessings that his father allowed him to pursue music or at least that's how the story goes
I feel like there is plenty to discuss in this serie. I too didnt understand why they felt the need to "explain" why POC were accepted in this society. It does not make sense. 1) the myth that love transcend race issues is frankly old and dangerous, maybe it's possible the king fell in love with one WOC but does it mean he didnt have/and still has not racist prejudicices against her and her people ? No. 2) Even in this post-racial society, we would see ordinary racism, cuz you can not expect rich privileged white people to just accept and share their wealth with POC after years of colonialism and racism. Also, all of the characters of color that are central to the storyline are lightskin u___u. (except for the aunt of the Duke, but she is kind of a "magical" black lady, another common trope for black characters :/ ) . There are two characters that the audience do not "know" well, but that are depicted differently because of their physical apparences. The prince (white, rich, young, "pretty") and Nigel Berbrooke (short, "ugly", fat). Nigel is portrayed as a horrible character, even before we know his true intentions, and these negative info are conveyed through...his looks : "ugly", short and fat. The Prince's true intentions are never really revealed, he does not pursue Daphne after her rejection (good boy), but something tells me he would not be demonized like Nigel if he did, just because he is an "attractive" character. In my opinion, we need to talk more about the beauty privilege in general, and fatphobia in portrayal of male characters. 3) SPOILER: The ending also didnt sit well with me, if Simon was the one to want children (Not Daphnee) and had forced Daphnee to be pregnant, it would have been labeled clearly as rape, and having Daphnee change her mind in the end and be finally happy with child would have been atrocious. I really do not think someone who swore to not have children all his life would change his mind that quickly, especially after been raped by someone who he trusted. Also, yeah why no bonnets ???
totally agree about all those moments the show let the stakes drop / no major consequences for pretty dramatic moments. I really liked that the marriage happened halfway through the season though! It surprised me by breaking from the typical structure, which I thought was interesting and entertaining
My favourite character.... from the whole cast... was that one extra with the bleached dreads, like because you could always see him in the background and I feel like he was so easy to spot so like we’d started tallying everytime they reused him in a scene
Nevermind the fact that tightlacing didn't become popular until the late 19th century, it's pretty much impossible to tightlace stays. The eyelets are handsewn and can't take the strain of someone yanking them with all their might. You will literally rip your stays if you try. And yes, I know from first hand experience (a friend and I were bored and tried to tightlace their stays lol did not end well they had to resew a new back panel). Once metal eyelets were introduced corsets could be laced with much more force. And even then, tightlacing was only really done by people who didn't have to get much work done
Compared to the Emma 2020 costumes, they were really lackluster and the fabrics weren't that good. I'd do anything to have any of the costumes from Emma.
The costume designer herself even said the dresses weren’t meant to be historically accurate and that they would have a modern appeal, so why people are whining about that I don’t understand.
Totally disagree that the end of the season should be the wedding, I loved that it went into the beginning of marriage and the struggles they went through. It’s not just a happily ever after
I agree with what you said, even tho the sexual tension between Daphne and Simon was INSANE, take that away and you realise how many issues they have. The wedding was so depressing. :(
Also when it comes to the topic of diversity I just want to know why all the leading black characters were light skin yet there were dark skin extras!??!? shondaaa whyyy
omg thank you for also recognizing the emotional constipation of the guy who played Simon. it got exhausting by the end of the season. I just didn't believe their story together.
I really love that you suggest alternative choices for characters to wear (ie Lady Featherington to look like Mrs Elton, Emily in Paris have more work wear, etc). It avoids bogging a vid with negativity and introduces a lot of better concepts. A cool video would be you completely redesigning a movie or show’s costumes to better fit the story!
I think one of the main issues with the show is that the book series it is based on focuses on one couple and sibling at a time, and Daphne and Simon are honestly one of the weaker and more problematic pairings (although they do have on screen chemistry). So if you don't like the pairing, the show loses a lot of the charm because they are treading water with a lot of the side plots of the more interesting siblings. Also, other issues like the glaring heteronormativity and marital rape, are straight out of the book, while issues they wanted to include, like race and diversity, aren't dealt with, which makes things a bit unbalanced in transition to screen as they have to find ways to make both the book canon and their ambitious interests work with the characters, plot, and time period provided. There also is the push and pull of people wanting historical accuracy and diversity for a reason, and those who just think the show should avoid giving in-universe explanations and just roll with it. I think Bridgerton still has potential; it was fairly entertaining and it is nice to see a show based around romance and the female gaze do well. But, it does have some growing pains to work through that are difficult considering these problems.
i'm hoping they address the rape scene in the next season (maybe showing simon's lack of trust in daphne when they're having sex leading to an ACTUAL DISCUSSION ABOUT IT) but that's definitely optimistic
Well the next sibling is even more problematic imo in that he is consistently physically domineering over the love interest and grabbing her wrists or chin or what have you. I liked the book but...I really hope they tone down his behaviour it was hard to read. The other issue is they’ve either accidentally or intentionally gay coded Benedict who is like every other sibling, hetero. I don’t know what they’re going to do there and I hope they treat it all with respect!
@@selty I haven't read the second book, I only read the first one for reference, but I definitely hope they will tone it down, the domineering trope is old and gross and I really had hopes for Anthony's character development. It seems like a lot of book readers talk about Anthony's growth, so I hope they actually try to show that. As a couple I have heard Kate and Anthony are less problematic than Daphne and Simon (in the sense Daphne and Simon had a LOT of issues with the whole lying to each other, marital rape and 'fixing' Simon's life goals and trauma without resolving it, issues that are inherent in the relationship as opposed to the enemies-to-lovers dynamic) however I can't speak to that I guess since I haven't read the books. In sum, I totally respect your take on that and hope the show tries to do well by the pairing. I agree on Benedict. It seems they wanted to make his character more exploratory and were going to do their own thing with him but backed out of it last second. Gave the character less charm, but we don't know necessarily what they have in store for season 2. Hope they can find a balance, although I understand being cautious about sacrificing book canon. It's unrealistic all siblings are straight though so it would be nice if they could do something with it lol.
I loved how Daphne wore blue in all her outfits bc she loves her family and her goal is to be as happy as her parents.She is the only sibling out of the four (the older ones ofc) who wants to find a husband who will improve the high status and reputation that her family has.Her whole story is based around it.Also in the next seasons she is the one that advises her siblings contastly about relationship problems that they have.A great detail in my opinion
Agreed. Daphne and what's his name weren't my reason for watching the show. I just loved seeing the diversity and plus it's meant to be a historical. One of my favorite genres.
You wouldnt like her in the book then. Cause daph was NEVER the incomparable. She was actually out 3 seasons and everyone thought she was too nice and every guy's BFF and isnt really someone to marry.
Honestly I was just glad they had corsets even, in the books, every man can just pop a t*tty out of a dress with absolutely no effort and there are never corsets (or chemises!) under those ripped bodices. Also every woman wears sleek silk night gowns in the books which is... I'm pretty sure wrong? Overall I enjoyed the nonsense of the show, if you're going to be inaccurate at least be entertaining. I agree with all your points though
Hey girl. I recently watched Tombstone and the Alamo with my dad and the costumes seemed pretty good from what I have learned from your channel. I think a fun video would be analyzing westerns for accuracy. Love your content
I laugh so hard when daphne was like "gimme the special dress" and there's all this excitement about it, when she arrives at the party everybody gasps.. and she look exactly the same as every other dress and scene
Hahahha I know!!!! That dress was so boring and I was so confused. There were other patroness there with better and more beautiful dresses.
asjfhskjfh yes!
Oh my god yes!
*dramatic gasp*
I KNOW!! 😂😂😂 I was like, what are we gasping at.
The wardrobe left a lot to be desired.
Tight lacing a corset (without a chemise no less!) to wear with an empire waisted dress is like the modern day equivalent of wearing a sexy push up bra and spanx to wear with an oversized hoodie.
... I do that bc I have no self respect lmao
edit: y'all are still liking this and I'm still doing this. shout out to all the flat chested girls ❤️
There was only that one “tight lacing” scene so I hadn’t put 2 & 2 together but now I’m more annoyed at the show’s clothes 😂😂😤
me who legit wears corsets under my oversized sweatshirts reading the comments -_-
I do that lmao I like the feeling
@@electriksheep1508 mood
Actually, I really liked that Daphne got married when she did. Most stories around women end with marriage. By placing her end goal at the middle-ish of the season, it’s like stating that it’s not the end of her life, and that mixed with the issues she faces in her marriage show a different storyline and I’m grateful for it
True and also her helping the people was interesting too
True but making the problems she faces in her marriage the central conflict of season 2 could have been interesting too
@@vanimation1 Yes but season 2 won't be about her, but her siblings so they won't focus on her or simon
@@vanimation1 each season is about a different Bridgerton
Same, it made it way more intersting in my opinion !
Daphne reminded me so much of Wendy from Peter Pan. Literally the cartoon is her exactly even the bangs lol
Yes but wendy was better
@@izzakhalid2495 yup lol, who was Wendy’s daughter again?? hated her honestly i shipped Wendy and Peter too much 😭😭
@@hwlsgrl sameeee - they could have made a movie where he let’s go of his inner conflict and tries to grow up and later meets Wendy again or something
@@izzakhalid2495 fr the end of the last movie got me sad as fuck for 3 days straight because someone commented that in the book peter said something like "in the place between your dreams and waking up, i’ll be there waiting" idk not that exactly but likee GEEEZZZ I WAS ALREADY SAD
Yes! They even dressed her like Wendy. I do get the occasional Kate Winslet vibes as well.
As a black viewer I was actually very pleased they didn’t make race a pivotal aspect of the plot. Whenever black characters are introduced to a plot their whole story line is centred on just their race and it’s honestly exhausting. The characters are subject to ridicule and constantly have to fight against racial issues. Honestly I loved watching the black characters just be humans, fall in love, and have good time. It was so refreshing. This mad made it so easy to fall into the plot and just watch to enjoy rather than worry when the poc character is going to be ridiculed neck.
I was sooo happy they did this. They only mentioned it once about how the king married a black women which helped make that change. I’m genuinely tired of watching race issues in shows and movies for the time being considering I’m already dealing with it in real life. Everyday.
IMO that’s exactly why the plot point of the marriage between king and queen ending segregation shouldn’t have been mentioned. I was all for the absent racial tensions plot, but acting like everyone had been segregated until the point of marriage added it back in for me- but also never addressed how society magically wasn’t biased anymore. And honestly, it didn’t really help the overall plot of Simon and Daphne’s relationship progression. If they had just left that out I think the story would have been better. I am not a BIPOC tho so my perspective may totally be off!
Kate Lux I agree. I think they might get more into that in the next season but we’ll see
@@MiracleMadkins I guess we will just have to wait to find out, but it’s possible
@@MiracleMadkins I really hope they don’t turn into a racial drama. We have enough slave/racial films in Hollywood.
Hating Simon but being severely attracted to him is the epitome of this show
As an Asexual, this is free estate!!
@crush broke ok racist
@crush broke girl pls stfu. the poc actors were amazing and actually had talent (exhibit a: lady danbury, simon, etc) to the point where i cared most about those characters. u saying that they were just used to fill a skin color quota is literally disgusting and reveals how u truly feel about poc being cast in shows. also i love daphne but she was by far the most uninteresting character and unfortunately, the actress didn't do her character justice.
@crush broke LMFAO ok racist??
@crush broke how??
Even though it wasn’t historically accurate, I really enjoyed how the hairstylists incorporated black/natural hairstyles like braids, afros, and dreadlocks into Queen Charlotte’s outfits.
That's for sure my favourite aspect of it! Inclusivity that didn't feel extremely forced just beautiful and natural.
I loved the inclusivity! Although I did notice a large lack of Asian representation in the main cast :/
Same
Agreed!
Yesss they were so beautiful! Defying the notion that natural black hair can’t be beautiful or elegant
You and Karolina dropping Bridgerton reviews at the same time is all I needed
Now when’s yours? 🥳
Ok that’s LITERALLY WHAT I WAS GONNA COMMENT?????
was just about to say this! lol trying to decide if I want to watch these before I start the show or not.
@@gremlita - I live for this comment conversation.
same
Yeah like the whole time I was watching Bridgerton I was like “why tf is Daphne the least dressed person”
wdym? she had the prettiest dresses in my opinion
@@safaaxdeen omg no offense her looks was so boring it literally looked the same but ofc thats ur opinion
@Koko Kaka you honestly like her little fringe antennas?
@@juliahedmanwallin YOO the little bayangs bothered me so much😭.
I know!! I thought the feathertons dresses were better and prettier.
“They also didn’t want to include bonnets”
Somewhere in northwest Ohio Micarah Tewers is doing a craft and seething with rage.
I can totally picture this with a chicken somewhere in the background
And her parrot on her shoulder
Hahaha ! Forrral though
@@acrylicgodoy and the spirit of LaTrexa looking on from the Heavens, nodding approvingly.
@@lkntgkltrndfl God bless LaTrexa's soul 🙏🏽
I couldn’t stop laughing when the prince gave her the necklace. It’s like, “Hello, I’m an actual prince from an actual royal family who’s intent on wooing you, so I got you this necklace from Claire’s.”
Yes! I'm almost positive that several of the necklaces on the show were actually just contemporary wedding jewelry from Etsy! Did they have a sponsorship or something??
Literallly told my friends as we were watching the picnic scene, “Who gave Daphne that 2015 Forever 21 lookin choker?”
@@rkgk1517 lol i know youre just joking but she Mina mentioned that they had specific jewelers creating it or something like that but yeah at one point I couldn't tell if the jewelry was pretty or not
I mean, didn't like 60% of the jewelry come from Claire's also?
I thought it was nice, and the necklace seemed period accurate. Idk. The only weird thing was that she wasn't wearing a necklace at all whilst she was wearing one in all previous ball-scenes...
*King marries WOC*
Several centuries of racism: *"adios"*
i rlly think they should have just left that out and had diversity without an explanation. the unnecessary explanation took away from the fantasy aspect a bit imo
@@professorhistoire5349 yeah but then you have people who say the opposite. Personally I wish it was left out too, but people can't just let us have nice things without making it hard.
@@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty In my mind, the worst part was that it was so halfway done and advertised as something that was going to be discussed. If the casting was just entirely colorblind and race wasn't discussed, that would be fine. Or, if the race was a factor in casting and something that was explored throughout the show, that would be cool too! It just has to be done right.
But the way they just tired to have both the good parts of discussing race (poc being interested in the show and they get to say "look as us and our diversity woooooo") and the good parts of not discussing race (they don't actually have to put in the work and effort to craft a good story with meaningful representation) just made it feel not good and completely underdone.
@@Megan-sb2ju yeah, just what I meant was more of you can't do it right don't do it at all. It honestly wouldn't have mattered too much if they just did it without saying anything compared to what we got.
@@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty I agree :]
I made a joke about how ridiculous that tight lacing corset scene was to my parents and they got so angry because they genuinely believe tight lacing was the norm throughout history and that only rich women wore corsets... This is exactly why movies need to stop including those scenes, they make no sense especially in the regency era.
You tell them!!
I have ranted about this at length to several unsuspecting people
@@flyingwind66 keep on ranting!
They can’t handle the truth
When I saw that scene it immediately annoyed me, I guess that's what happens after watching fashion youtubers
I agree about the racial conversation. Up until that point I just assumed the cast was diverse because who cares, it's not like it's a historical drama, but it felt odd that they were like "the white king married a black woman and now everything is cool"
Same, I was really thrown off by that conversation.
Yes, how did the few black nobles gain so much wealth and power in such a short period?
It also didn't make sense because simon swore his family bloodline would be ending with him, but his ancestors can't have been nobility for long then...
Me too, I simply accepted the cast being random races until they explained that.
Absolutely! I was happy to see the diversity and didn't like that they tried to give an in-universe explanation for it, it was unnecessary
All these shows love that fugly green gold for the “rival” family
Thats because they used to think of green as a bad color or an evil color
This is so true. I can think of many 'bad guys' who have green and gold themes. I guess it's to reinforce the idea that they're excessively wealthy and evil...?
personally I didn't mind the inaccuracies since the show clearly was going for a fantastical version of the regency world, not a historically accurate one. Such a good point that more could have been done with day-time dress and eveningwear though! I think that would have absolutely added to the story. And would have loved to see some chemises
I think that if you’re gonna do an alternate universe thing maybe just take from that culture and create a new country. My opinion tho
Yes!! The first time I saw the cover of the series I knew it that wasn't historically accurate, is not supposed to be! They should read the books too.
Indeed, fantastical. Once I accepted "Bridgerton" as fantasy, Regency Romance fanfiction, I was much more comfortable with it, LOL. No bonnets, few gloves, few chaperones, etc. etc. But ... fun!
It's historical fanfiction. Nothing wrong with that. We can't hold it to trying to be accurate.
agreed!
Honestly you're so right about the show being super lackluster. I didn't find the main two actors to be compelling at all (tbh she looked like a child compared to him and it was a bit off-putting at times), it fully excused marital r*pe and even made it look like Daphne was justified in what she did, and they handled the entire idea of race during this period, which could have been really interesting, very strangely (the king married a black queen like 20 years ago and all of a sudden Black people are landed gentry during this hyper-colonial period). It just once again gave this systemic issue the "one individual fixes it all" treatment. Thanks so much for this video!
Agreed! Especially on Dpahne looking way too young for Simon...and the way they styled her hair doesn't help. She looks like a live action Wendy Darling honestly
Yes yes yes yes! That marital rape scene made me so disgusted with Daphne's character, and the writers for writing it off like it was okay (be it because they were married, or that the victim was a male, which are excuses given for rape all too often). Then for the series to just end off with him deciding to stay with her and have children as if nothing happened, it was absolutely deplorable (and an awful message that continuous fighting, and even forced sexual contact in relationships will allow arguments to go in your favor with little to no consequence).
It is weird when all the sudden the black people that is older than the queen became a duke or other old black aristocracy without any backlash from the caucasian aristocracy. It's a fantasy, if you too lazy to dabble about racism maybe make a society where race isn't a barrier or make it normal back in the story that all race is equal.
@@Ethereal_Iris I agree! specially if you are already not that all historical accurate, why pinpoint specifically that issue and try to weirdly fix it
The whole thing felt very...fanfiction to me. Like super sexy/romantic ideas but generally bad storetelling and the plot just kind of flops around not making a ton of sense...
yeah but what if it was the other way around and simon would forcibly impregnate daphne, completely dismissing her will not to have children and act like he has the right to? it would be a completely different conversation and that, in my opinion, is messed up.
E.XAC.TLY !!!!!!!!!
@@luanasiros9480 It was sort of revengeful, maybe, but also, i think, quite empowering, because she should have been told the exact story of why he chose not to have children. he was taking advantage of her ignorance regarding the sexual act, which is quite humiliating. she basically showed him in the most concise and meaningful way possible that now, she knew. about his “omission,” about sex, etc. she basically became a mature woman in that moment. plus, his decision of not having kids even after his father was dead is stupid. it’s not like his father was able to see him from his grave and he had already broken the vow by marrying, so, it wasn’t as unbendable as he was stubbornly struggling to believe.
honestly, what made me uncomfortable the most is the,
clearly older men pining for young/underage girls, even daphne and simon,
but i just blame the writers for including alot of problematic shit.
@@carrywon8767 daphne is supposed to be 21 and the duke 26...not that big of a difference lol
@@kayboLOVESyoutub1000 actually simon is 29, but really?? It's not? Idk, maybe her character is just so naive and childish, rubs me the wrong way. Idk
Funny how they could make Daphne a bazillion of the same dresses but no jackets, chemisettes, chemises, nothing 😅...
no chemises, no chemisettes, no chemistry with her co-stars...
Ah yes! Daphne's dresses were all the same even after she's married. I wonder if they did that on purpose?
Yes! When she KEPT GOING OUT WITHOUT A BONNET AND PELISSETTE! Gah!
@@genericusername702 do you think it's because she's probably blue blood and for them it is classier to have not a lot of things going on as opposed to the featheringtons who seem like they're new money thus why the embellishments.
@@MsDreamer1994 I was thinking less embellishment on garments and more of the jackets, chemise, shifts, etc. I definitely think less embellishments on her dresses and garments make sense but to not have many pieces to wear along with her dresses felt strange to me.
I wish they had just went with pretending that the society in-universe was just always integrated. Especially considering that real life Queen Charlotte has been white-washed and, like you mentioned, all the racism and slavery going on at the time, I think the idea of a "colour-blind" reimagining is a lot more interesting than Shonda's insistence on the power of interracial dating (which almost always includes one white partner). Also there were so many beautiful dark skinned Black people as extras and I don't understand why not any of them could have had a speaking role if this show wants to call itself diverse. Though that's a Netflix problem more than anything I guess. But as a dark skinned Black woman who loves period pieces and historical costume, it was such a let down.
Also I liked Lady Danbury's character and styling the most too but would it have killed anyone on set to pluck the hairline on that wig??
(EDIT: I have since read up a lot more on Queen Charlotte and now see that her African ancestry was too many generations removed to consider the actual person as mixed race.)
yes!
Thank you!! Her wig looked the most wiggy out of all the characters, they could have done better.
Yes the lack of darkskin represntationwas such a let down
What do you mean by Queen charlotte was white washed?
The real life Queen Charlotte was a white woman. The ancestor people point to is a woman called, Madragana, who was born in 1230. It's disputed whether Madragana was Hispanic or Moorish. Queen Charlotte was born in 1744. There is only one portrait and one quote which people use to back up this claim about Queen Charlotte. All her other portraits portray a period typical German woman. She wasn't biracial or mixed race. I have a not insignificant amount of First Nations ancestry (through one of my great-parents, with the rest being of Northern, Central and Western European ancestry), and I think it would be completely insane to consider myself biracial. Madragana would have contributed almost nothing to Charlotte's genetic make up after 15 generations.
Seeing costumes from Emma just after having seen the weird bridgerton dresses, did bridgerton absolutely no favours lol
Yes! Emma 2020 did everything right! The Bridgerton costumes next to Emma looks quite cheap.
@@feeline1120 Emma did not do hair right lol. Their hair was very clearly done with a curler because rag curls do not look that weird
@@headphonic8 oh no there were still many inaccuracies in Emma BUT at least they did not wore their hair open with modern days curls (which also did not happen in Bridgerton I think). But I was talking more about the costumes. Bridgertons costumes are colorful as well but they did not keep up with the historically right shape of the garments. And plainly speaking the costumes in Emma are just a thousand times more stunning!
@@feeline1120 it’s MEANT to look cheap lol
I know it's not historically accurate because it is historical fiction but it has a special place in my heart. As a black girl seeing people who look like me in these extravagant outfits during a period where we wouldnt be in such high society instead as slaves made me feel happy and appreciated. I also love how colorful and vivid the outfits and scenes are reminded me of Alice in Wonderland
The race relations scene was a bit off putting cause it felt disingenuous. The one thing I love though is how Queen Charlottes hair would occasionally have natural hair textures incorporated into the wigs and I thought that was a lovely touch
I agree 100% I’ve been obsessed with period dramas and I’ve always thought that the costumes would look sooo good on black actors and Bridgerton delivered! My favorite part was when black characters had their 19th century “bonnets” lol
Yeah this show was not perfect but the racial diversity was amazing!
Me too I've always love 1800s European fashion .The only problem I have is lack of dark skin black girls as main characters.
BlackVelvet Sings because it would make the story more accurate
@@blackvelvetsings5310 yep
Thank you for bringing up the weird throw away line “explaining” why there were black people present in high society. I thought it was so weird. Like it’s mentioned one time a couple episodes in and then never again? It’s not like that was even a main point of struggle for anyone. Simon wasn’t adverse to falling in love with daphne because of their different races. I was really happy that they were just making it a normal thing, felt weird that they all of a sudden wanted to explain it.
yesss!! the moment where daphne was meant to be wearing her freak’em dress to make the duke jealous she looked exactly the same as always and it was so disappointing
YES!!! thank you for mentioning the sexual assault scene, is it just not being talked about because it was against a man? I'm so confused!
A lot of people complain about in book reviews and discussions, too. It’s a huge controversy in the series but sadly still a lot of people don’t notice it. Don’t worry you aren’t alone!
Wait someone please explain to me
@@cognacszn7789 in the show I'm pretty sure its between the Duke and Daphne. I believe it was when she found out that the Duke could in fact have kids.
Remember: if the assailant is a woman and a victim a man, it doesn't count~! Because men aaaalways wanna have sex. Duh! And we women are just too fragile and pure to ever so such a thing! /s
@@IceQueen975 legit what I’ve read. People defending daphne being like “she was uneducated” “she didn’t know what she was doing”. Like consent isn’t that hard and she was educated before doing it, that’s why she did it!
I had a hard time with Daphne looking like Wendy from Peter Pan every single time she wore a blue(ish) dress... I honestly thought they might have been inspired by Wendy before you pointed out that blue was the Bridgertons' colour.
ANNE WITH “E” NEXT PLZ!! They discontinued the show and I would to hear your opinions on their costume designs! 😭
It's discontinued????? Nooo 😭😭😭
:( why?
@@flowerjournal7949 yeah Netflix is dumb and gave RIVERDALE a 5th season. I cannot
agreed I loved that show
YES PLEASEE
Why do they skip bonnets in almost every movie or series? It can actually look so cute :(
Maybe for the lightning, a bonnet may cover the face and make it harder to light them well?
@@LynnHermione that’s not why, they had bonnets in Emma 2020 and several other movies. Hollywood doesn’t think they are sexy or attractive to the modern audience.
I have the same feeling about the overuse of tiaras instead of the awesome headdresses of specific time periods 😒.
I found that so ludicrous- that they would go out with uncovered heads and no jacket, cape or coat would have been unthinkable. Even today, we rarely go outside without and outdoor piece of clothing (jacket, sun hat, warm hat etc) It really detracted from the real-ness of it and made it feel like a play...
@@ChrisselBFR Me too!!
I was the same about the Prince tbh. I kept shouting "Just marry the Prince for gods sake!" towards the TV. I mean, he was lovely and gentle and clearly in love. Had I been Daphne I'd married him on the spot, not matter my conflicting feelings about the guy who clearly doesn't want to marry.
SAME ! Oh my god he was sweet, understanding, nice, didn’t have commitment issue and wanted the same thing in life as her ! What more do you waaaannnt ? I wouldn’t even have had any thoughts to spare about the Duke, let alone any feelings 🤡
the reason they didn’t put the wedding at the end of the season is because that would only play into the idea that they’re challenging, that a marriage is the one moment in a woman’s life that gives her value. it’s challenging the idea that marriage is the end all be all happily ever after that their mothers say it is. it’s to show that daphne is important before and after she is married, that she has value regardless of her marital status. life doesn’t feel fulfilled just because a girl got married, she still has trials and triumphs.
It is also because it is based on a series of books, each book has one Bridgerton as the protagonist, that's why Daphne and the Duke were married so quickly since in season 2 they are going to focus more on Anthony.
In the Bridgerton book series, several of the novels have the weddings happen about halfway through the book, and I really enjoyed that. It was a refreshing departure from the "happily ever after" trope. I hope they keep that in the succeeding seasons!
Emma 2020 really did that huh? Deprived lazy costume designers of their excuses
fr!!!!
I can't wait to watch it cus I haven't had the chance yet!
@@danielzhou2972 watch it now!! You will not be disappointed :)
i wasn't a huge fan of the film itself (i have a bias for the bbc miniseries adaptation) but i greatly admired how accurate they were with their costumes -- and not just accurate but also FULLY utilize the style and lean into the colours to appeal to the viewer without compromising on accuracy! Emma 2020 showed you could be super accurate to the time period's costumes and it WON'T be boring!! and i learned so much from youtubers like Mina and Karolina who commented on Emma 2020 that when i watched Bridgerton all i could think of was "Emma did it better!!"
@@danielzhou2972 I hope you enjoy it. It’s my fave version of Emma
Whoever fit penelope’s dresses did that girl dirty. I’m sick of seeing costume designers not knowing how to dress curvy girls!
This was a whole thing from the books. Her mom always putting her in ill fitting clothes in ugly bright colors. They briefly alluded to it in the show.
@@niniluv89 whoops, I was blaming that on the costume designer.
The point is that she's dressed by her mother who basically tries to squeeze her into smaller sized regardless of how she looks on them. The whole family is supposed to look garish, badly dressed and slightly out of fashion so it's not costume designers failing at their jobs, it's costume designers creating an specific image
Your reaction shows that the costume designers did their job right. Lady Featherington is well known for her horrendous taste in clothes and her children have no say on the matter.
I’ve heard in later books she decided to wear what she wants (and loose some weight) and she looks way better
The writers of bridgerton when Daphne sexually assaulted and tried to baby trap Simon: 👼😴🕊️🤗✅
The witters of bridgerton when Simon lied to Daphne about why he didnt want kids: 🤬😾👺💢😠😡😤
lmao so true though
The "king married a black woman" explanation is so cheap, like, as a mixed black person KNOW its not that easy lmao
I'd prefer they simply imply this is an alternate history where racism was simply never a problem in the first place, i mean we're already expecting historical inaccuracies and romantization
Yes we can all agree that that one interracial "explaining" scene was odd and made no sense. Felt like it was just tacked on in post production.
They did it for the haters and other simple minded people who managed to complain anyway and wanted the show to be canceled because of its diversity. The thing is that, not all audiences around the world have the same approach on the matter and that needed to be added for the forever perplexed ones.
It was KILLING ME when the girls would slouch forward while sitting and their empire waist dresses would scrunch up awkwardly around their torso.
Omg I thought I was the only one annoyed that Daphne chose the brooding Duke over the loving Prince.
@Stacy Verre main characters never end up with the people that would make more sense. But in defense of the show, they didn't give the prince enough time to show what he is truly like beyond the surface of what Daphne sees. Still, no matter how handsome the Duke is, I would never picked him just because he is emotionally constipated all the time and I don't waste time thinking I can change him but that's just me. 😅
I mean she only picked him to avoid controversy, bc Cressida would’ve snitched. But I’m pretty sure she would’ve picked the duke regardless. #theprincedeservedbetter
@@phyllis9853 The fact that she kissed Simon in that garden proved the latter...
yesss everyone i know was shipping the duke and daphne and i was like : why do u guys like the duke he literally never communicates and can't take a fucking decision that isnt ruled by his daddy issues and ever growing need of therapy. she could have the sweet prince who would gladly start a whole family with u and cherish you. why are you so dumb daphne
Thank god Im not alone ! Friedrich looks at her like she the 8th wonder of the world/the Messiah and were supposed to think that marrying daddy issue grr angry grrr boi is the right course of action ? Wut
given the fact that they have classical covers of thank u, next and bad guy in the show i doubt historical accuracy was a top priority for them😂
Fr, like at first I thought it was in present times bc of the song choices. But when I realized it was a set in a certain time period, I was shocked. So honestly I’m not even worried about the other inconsistencies this show has 💀😂
I found it super amusing tho 😂
Right? I think it’s funny how upset some people are about the costumes... everything in the show being inaccurate. That was never the point of the show ffs
The 2015 live action of Cinderella is such an underrated movie
YES
I honestly think it was the best Disney liveaction adaptation. I mean look at the main dress!! GORGEOUS
@@anvisriva1824 SAME the other live action adaptations don't compare honestly
the dresses in the ball scene were quinceanera dresses adapted to look like dresses from different cultures
i love that
a year late but 100% no disney live action remake will ever top that one for me!!
I love how Emma is the standard now
As it should be 💅🏾
Yes!! Emma 2020 is such a underrated film as well.
The costumes were amazing! The actual story was boring.
my favorite eye-candy movie of 2020
Indubitably
Your outfit is amazing ☺️
Yes, I'm SO copying that look! It's perfect for cold weather, stylish and unique
yesyesyesss!!!!
Oh, Anita! Much love from Russia! 💕
anybody knows where to get stays like that??
@@veronika_s_c6964 (I'm gonna leave a comment here to see if anybody answers)
Daphne is honestly very boring to me, like she’s supposed to be “perfect” and her struggles are that she’s actually not “perfect”, like we get it but it’s still a very used trope and she manages it very bad.
Yea she is so boring and mellow!!
Eloise was more interesting than her😂😂😂 but I sort of relate to both sisters at the same time
True! She just seems like a one sided personality! The writers also didn't spice the character much! I much prefer Eloise and Penelope as lead characters
i don't think she was boring. i mean, her entire life she was taught that she needed to be perfect in order to get married to a decent man & that nothing else mattered. and as the oldest daughter, she was the first one in line to be married and her sister's futures depended on if/who daphne married. so obviously when things didn't work out and no one was interested in her anymore, it was really devastating and scary for her, and she was willing to do anything to make sure that she was eligible.
@@koostattoos-8859 true that
Thank god i wasn't the only one that shipped daphne and the prince 💀
the way i hoped that she would forget about the duke and just marry the prince and be happy and become an actual princess chile 💀
Frr they were so cute until the Duke scandal and marriage situation 😃
Same! He was so nice and earnest, and didn't (unintentionally or not) toy with Daphne's feelings the way the duke did
Same
El era maravillosoo sin duda
i felt the same way about how they explained the nonracism... the show would've been better without it
Same!!
I think it was needed because a lot of people at first were wondering why blacks were being represented in a show that was primarily based in the 18th century. Without that background story, it would have left many people still confused. You have to remember, we are talking about the union between the king and queen, not the prince and princess like meghan markle and prince harry. During the 18th century the queen was the one to ensure that Britian colonized a lot of ethnic countries and was the main reason behind slavery and the division between whties and blacks. Obviously as time went on race relationshions changed, as did the laws and statutes to encamping the diversifying and advancement of european countries under british ruling, however this show depicts what life would have been like under differnt rulling and laws. It's actually very inresting. Many people don't understand this aspect unless you are a history lover like me.
I agree, until they decide to explain it I was like “oh this is a universe where the Moors stayed powerful and grew up in and beside the nobles of Europe”. Then they said that and I had to imagine how apparently in less then 50 years some families had become equally and sometimes MORE powerful to white nobles. That pulled me more out of universe then ANYTHING. they would be considered new money still at that point.
@@bentomai5071 That would've been a nice explanation
@@Joseph-zd7kg I think in a show you made up, you shouldn’t have to explain why black people exist. Most people just think it’s just a choice until you decide to explain it like that
The fact that Penelope's empire waist starts at like, her mid boob, is extremely infuriating
After the marital rape scene I was done with Daphne. Her character was already not very interesting. The way she painted herself as the victim to justify her actions was disgusting.
Sorry I don't agree, she did NOT force him to have sex.
@@jeankaye3535 he told her to stop and she did not. That’s him revoking consent, and her continuing anyway. Literally rape.
@@jeankaye3535 Consent means voluntary, clear, continuous, mutually understandable permission given by words or actions. Giving consent to one form of sexual activity does not imply consent to other forms of sexual activity. You can withdraw consent at any point if you feel uncomfortable, which is what he did by saying "wait" multiple times but she kept going.
(Edit : because of a reply of someone, I now have to clarify that I am disagreeing with not liking Daphne painting herself as a victim, not that it is not rape.)
I disagree which is because of this comment I saw on another comment on this video, which I agree with =
"Not really trying to be insensitive to the issue that is being brought to light here or up for discussion. But she didn't lure him into the bedroom, he fetched her and asked her if she was ready for bed to which she folllowed him and they started making love. During the scene she postions herself on top and it seems to catch the Duke by Surprise. But further on he realizes that he is close to release to which he says "wait, wait" because it seems as though she wouldn't move or have been able to move in time for him to pull out. But he could have easily maneuvered over it, she wasn't overpowering him. He just thought she knew that she was to get off once he was close. Also keep in mind she knows very little about sex, and she was not educated about the matter propeprly by her mother, it was her lady's maid who explained it to her because she was probably confused as to why he was pulling out I guess. She didn't move in order to test a theory because she wanted to see if what she had been told was true. If you watch the scene again you'll realize that the issue or that scene only happened because there was miscommunication or lack of communication between the two. The Duke said "I thought you knew how a child came to be" and she indicated that she didn't and thought it was a case where he had fertility issues. Plus I mean, it was sonewhat folly of him to even assume she knew becsuse she didn't even know about masturbating and the sorts. But I digress, I think the biggest issue with the couple has always been miscommunication or a lack of it, we even saw that issue when he came to her room at the inn and he was expalining the reason he had been so distant is that he thought she hated him and she expressed the same. They have always seen to be on different pages with commuication which affected their relatolnship. And in all fairness Daphne is a victim, she is a victim of a society that does not bat an eyelash to marrying off young girls who are unaware of sexual relations. And while her and the Duke and feelings for each other, he is the one who kissed her at a public event knowing fully well he did not want to marry or have kids. But irrespective whenI watched that scene I didn't perceive either to be a victim, just two people who clearly had alot of shit to work out between them. I mean ...they hardly knew each other."
What she did was wrong, and is marital rape, however it makes complete sense for Daphne to have no idea why it is even wrong and it was clear she had no idea that what she did is anything bad. The only complaint I'd have is that they didn't properly show us that Daphne realized that what she did is rape and bad, and how she learns off of that. However her painting herself as the victim after this makes complete sense, as she literally had just found out how people even get pregnant and as the comment I copied above says, was testing that out. It's easy for people to have issue with the way Daphne was portrayed after this scene, but its very realistic because of the ridiculous amount of ''sex-ed'' she's ever had which is 0, she didn't even know what masturbating was, so it definitely would not make sense for her to know about marital rape and that forcing him to do this counts as that.
@@yulana990 I am not reading all of that. But I looked at a little of it.
She may have not lured him into the bedroom but she didn't listen to when he was alarmed at what she continued to do. You can't test things out theories on people because you feel you have the right to. Especially when it has to do with sexual interactions. Victim of society or not it can never justify behavior like that. If you are making these excuses for Daphne I'm scared to find out how you would deal with situations like that in real life.
I was upset when the Duke kissed her in the garden too, putting her livelihood in jeopardy like that. But at the end of the day Daphne agreed to marry him knowing that he could not give her kids. Whether it was a choice or not she does not have the right to control that matter. Yes they sorely need better communication and understanding of eachother but that is not a excuse. Nothing is an excuse for raping someone. The fact that the writers do not make her acknowledge that what she did was wrong and reward her with a child at the end of season one is upsetting. If she had not victimized herself in that situation and owned up to her mistakes, I would have no problem with them having a child in the future. Because of Daphne and Simon's lack of development as a couple I can not see them working out at the moment.
TW: sexual assault
I was very disappointed when the sexual assault scene happened, it was not properly addressed and where with the season ended I highly doubt it’ll ever be brought up again.
this is my biggest problem with the show. it basically ruined everything that wasn’t ruined but the costume, the forced marriage, or the unnecessary race explanation.
I must have missed the assault scene! When was it? 😟
@@EH23831 TW: sexual assault/ rape
towards the end of episode 5 (?). Daphne has started to work out that Simon was pulling the wool over her eyes when it came to him having the ability/how a child was actually conceived. After asking her maid how it actually happens, she lures him to the bedroom and they start to have sex. She spins around so that she is on top of him and keeps going (despite his protests) until he ejaculates into her. To force a man to empregnate you against his consent is rape.
Daphne then proceeds to paint herself as the victim. Whilst Simon lying to her was wrong, she should not/the show should not have gone to the lengths of assault to confront him about it. Nor did the show address the issue and continued the narrative that Daphne was the victim. She could have confronted him verbally which might have suited the “Daphne is a victim” narrative much better and might have made her more compelling as a character. For me, her character was not particularly interesting and her motives confusing, and this action made her just the worst.
@@Kit-ul4fd oooh - missed that part of the episode... I tend to do a few things at once
@@Kit-ul4fd Not really trying to be insensitive to the issue that is being brought to light here or up for discussion. But she didn't lure him into the bedroom, he fetched her and asked her if she was ready for bed to which she folllowed him and they started making love. During the scene she postions herself on top and it seems to catch the Duke by Surprise. But further on he realizes that he is close to release to which he says "wait, wait" because it seems as though she wouldn't move or have been able to move in time for him to pull out. But he could have easily maneuvered over it, she wasn't overpowering him. He just thought she knew that she was to get off once he was close. Also keep in mind she knows very little about sex, and she was not educated about the matter propeprly by her mother, it was her lady's maid who explained it to her because she was probably confused as to why he was pulling out I guess. She didn't move in order to test a theory because she wanted to see if what she had been told was true. If you watch the scene again you'll realize that the issue or that scene only happened because there was miscommunication or lack of communication between the two. The Duke said "I thought you knew how a child came to be" and she indicated that she didn't and thought it was a case where he had fertility issues. Plus I mean, it was sonewhat folly of him to even assume she knew becsuse she didn't even know about masturbating and the sorts. But I digress, I think the biggest issue with the couple has always been miscommunication or a lack of it, we even saw that issue when he came to her room at the inn and he was expalining the reason he had been so distant is that he thought she hated him and she expressed the same. They have always seen to be on different pages with commuication which affected their relatolnship. And in all fairness Daphne is a victim, she is a victim of a society that does not bat an eyelash to marrying off young girls who are unaware of sexual relations. And while her and the Duke and feelings for each other, he is the one who kissed her at a public event knowing fully well he did not want to marry or have kids. But irrespective whenI watched that scene I didn't perceive either to be a victim, just two people who clearly had alot of shit to work out between them. I mean ...they hardly knew each other.
Her identity wasn't revealed until like book 4 in the series. The series was totally sensationalized compared to the books...new romances added, new characters added. Also would have been better if the series was color blind...totally agree.
Love how the gaudy and tacky costumes were my favourite 😂😂 It broke up the monotony of the Bridgerton colour palette and was far more visually arresting. As you pointed out, it was somewhat reminiscent of the stepmother and ugly sisters costumes in Cinderella, which were EXQUISITE. Probably my favourite costume design ever. I dream about Cate Blanchette in that green 😍😍😍
Cate Blanchett in Cinderella is HELLA EYE CANDY. LUSCIOUS.
Girl ME TOOOOO! I was living for the Featheringtons' style hahahah thought I was the only crazy tacky one 😅
@@woowoowitchymom SHE IS MY DREAM 💓
@@sarahparalovo hahah let's be crazy and tacky together!!
@@curl_next_door7876 yes same here. I loved their costumes . Way more interesting than daphne's
"im not here to talk abt the live action Cinderella though"
please that would be such a good video. id love to hear it
OMG definitely! I see a lot of vids about Cinderella's ballgown which is great but I would love to see a whole movie analysis of the costumes!
@@danielzhou2972 I love the ball scene, but miffed that there was only one Indian, one generic Muslim (draped in Swarovski), one Chinese (in a mismatched 1930's qipao with train & mid-1880's liangbatou), & one Japanese
I mean there's also the Korean peninsula, the East Indies, the Philippines, Siam/Thailand, Vietnam, Myanmar, Mongolia...wtf!!!
ANd WHY did her wardrobe not change when she became Duchess?? I know they were trying to keep her look pared back and simple, but really! So unbelievable that she wouldn’t step it up when she’s Her Grace! (It would have been required of her even if she didn’t want to!)
An excellent example of this is the miniseries “The Buccaneers” (from the 1990s I think) An innocent young lady becomes a Duchess and her wardrobe is in keeping.
Yesss! In my opinion it was the only valid(tm) live action disney movie.
The scene where they're tightening the corset just made me cringe. Whyyyyy would you need a cinching corset with that waistline?
there literally was NO waistline they really could have put them in a stay or just no corset at all😭
I don’t mind that the Bridgerton costumes are anachronistic and candy-colored, but I find the designs extremely unappealing. I also find it baffling to go as far as to set the story in a post-racial-parallel-Earth-Regency era, and still focus mainly on white women. 🤷♂️
YES! Despite people of colour being seen as equals supposedly, they're still a huge minority in the show. Most of the main characters were still white, with a minority of Black people and almost no Asians. There was so much potential with a fantasy where poc are at the same level but nope. The story was still about white women.
@@texaspoontappa2088 plus only biracial people play black people.
it pissed me off that the darkest-skinned characters in the show were the deadbeat father, an elderly maid of one of the white families, and a woman in the queen’s court who doesn’t speak. only light-skinned half-white black people get to see themselves happy and thriving in the regency era, i guess
@@p0lyxena Costuming Drama has a great video discussing the colorism and other racial issues in Bridgerton. You should check it out
I mean, I'd give it some slack since it is England, which is full of mostly white people. Post racial doesn't necessarily mean the population of each race is going to be proportional in a specific country. And with the show's focus on families, unless entire families are multi-racial, most of the characters are going to be of the same race. I think a lot of people conflate anti or non racist societies with being completely and perfectly diverse and fully representative of every race...
It's based on a book series and it's so different. The Mc isn't considered that most coveted person she was more of a friend to all the guys and they never say her as a partner that's why she makes the deal with Simon.
Also in the books she's a lot more witty and funny and is definitely not the perfect girl type person
I think they change this to compare here and Eloise who is the exact opposite. Just like how Simon and Daphne's story is the opposite of Collin and Marina's.
exactly!!!! the personalities and dynamics of all the characters is why i even liked the books, sucks that thats what they took out when they made the show
Whats the name of the book
@@bulumkomadaza5755 the first one of the Bridgerton series is "The Duke and I" by Julia Quinn
I know they ruined the books
the costumes were appalling, ESPECIALLY the accessories,. I know they were trying to make it look 'modern', but having everyone at the ball wear tiaras?? it just looked so childish and careless, and made the show look like it was aimed at a younger, less knowledgeable audience. - which wouldn't make sense either because there were so many raunchy scenes.
I felt the same about about the show "justification" for the "integration" in society! It would be better if they simply did not explain. And I wish they had a dark skin black girl/young woman with importance in the show
Same, I’m hoping that we will get some dark skin representation for black women❣️
Considering Netflix's track record of pretending dark skin black women don't exist, I sadly wouldn't hold my breath :\
The whole tight lacing intro was the first signal of lazy writing
exactly, they basically just wanted to say “boom this is a period drama! and this is something everyone associates with it”
Did anyone else hate Lady Danbury’s “hairline” lol. It’s all I could see any time she was on screen
Don't even talk about her eyebrows
Lord have mercy
@@amuniksmart9284 I didn’t even notice anything with the eyebrows, I was much too distracted by the hairline that looked like it was drawn on with a compass
I could not hear anything she ever said stating at her hairline 😂
YES OH MY GOD
@@amuniksmart9284 I’m glad I’m not the only one who was bothered by the eyebrows 😭
I think the point of the tight-lacing was specifically to show the attitudes of the Featheringtons, especially Lady Featherington. If I'm not mistaken, there wasn't any other tight-lacing and I think it was meant to demonstrate how intense Lady Featherington is about appearances and restricting her daughters, and honestly just in general the fact the Featheringtons tend to dress kind of tacky. Their clothes are over the top, but not in a pretty way, and I think the tight-lacing further emphasizes they're not really with the actual trends of the period.
Katarina Dulude but it makes no sense. The stays don’t cling to the waist and the dresses make all their curves ago away. Not to mention there wasn’t enough boning for it to do anything.
@@jen.m.3781 I know it doesn't make sense in terms of the clothes themselves, I just mean from a storytelling perspective I think that's what the intention was for depicting it, informing the audience of the Featheringtons' characters
Super honestly? I kinda liked the Featheringtons' style way better than the Bridgertons'! Their dresses were just so colorful and interesting, in general... Am I just too tacky? 😅
I agree. Lady Featherington seems like one of those ‘I lived through it, so you have to’ parents. She had to squeeze into an orange and a half, so her daughter has to. It sets the tone for her character.
But....but....the undergarments worn prior to this period weren’t corsets, they were conical stays, which also weren’t tightlaced
I liked most of the dresses, but by the end of the show I felt like I'd seen all of daphne and marina's dressed before because of how similar they looked. Also Marina was so robbed in terms of fashion. I feel like her cunning personality and beauty would've attracted more statement dresses but she wears SUPER simple dresses the whole time (maybe this is because lady featherington doesn't want her to look too good and buys her simple dresses but then that should've been addressed in the show)
I'd also argue that if one wanted to make a POC inclusive period drama, the regency is an IDEAL era because the tight ringlets and simple, puffed hairstyles inspired by ancient can be done so beautifully with black hair and the whole time Marina's hair was just... hanging. Insane misses opportunity
I actually like the queen keeping to the "old" style was fitting considering the state of her husband. It made a statement that their marriage is stale.
Or maybe cause she wanted to remind him of their better days when he's around. Like he still living in the past, and she wants to support the illusion
The problem is she wears things that were fashionable when she was literally a child.
Me with my Von Dutch hat
@@meridaskywalker7816 also that she’s the Queen and no one follows her fashion. Queens were trend setters in court fashion, so why didn’t anyone aspire to look like her in Bridgerton?
@@valentinahendrick9540 True
I was happy they got married in the middle so we could move the story along and see how their marriage would be. So many movies and tv shows end with the couple getting together but that’s not always the interesting part. I felt the show picked up after they got married. And it felt different from every other romance which was a breath of fresh air for me personally.
I agree with you , I was quite surprised because I was expecting the wedding in the last episode.
I almost quit this series when literally the FIRST SCENE was corset slander
I was about to say "someone get Karolina Zebrowska on the case" but then her Bridgerton video popped up. Oh well 😂
@@gleewhoseline198 I found the plot entirely too predictable and boring, and the costumes clearly were nothing worth while, so I only got a few episodes in before turning it off. I’m extremely cynical and not interested in romance plots though, so that probably didn’t help.
I couldn’t finish it the corset slander was so annoying I don’t understand why period dramas do that LIKE IT WASNT A POPULAR THING TO BE TIGHT LACED!!!!
I stopped watching after the first episode...is there a reason to stick with it or should I just stop watching cause it was a little too CW for me😅
OMG SAME
I just wanted to say, though I do not know how accurate the Queens wigs were (but from what I saw they look more like Marie Antoinette styles), I liked how some wigs were styled with dreadlocks and braids, and the queen being black it was a great way of modernizing her hair.
They aren’t 100% but they are still so cute
That's true, the costumes might not be totally historically accurate, but they're still eye catching! ♥️
I disagree but I’m genuinely happy you’re enjoying them!
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@@trinaq and this show isn’t known for its historical accuracy so it works out
I I know right? They are beautiful 😭
@@tinymxnticore aww omg you're actually so sweet, most people with like not the same opinions as other people on this app go at each other 🥺✨
Yessss, I've been waiting for this video ever since Bridgerton came out 😂
Yep, me too, I was looking for a "Bridgerton" costume analysis video, and I certainly wasn't disappointed! 💙😻
@@trinaq I knowww, Mina does the best research and the best costume analysis!
I hated Daphne's dresses. They made her look too young to me. Her dresses should have made her look more mature.
i though her dresses were really pretty and also at that time at youthful glow was very attractive and good for attracting suitors which was the whole point lmao
I mean she was meant to look younger not older
They all looked like nightgowns and made her look like a square.
@@Botatochicken ngl that just about sums up regency era fashion in general lol
@@Botatochicken Read about Regency fashion before yapping.
True. The whole time i kept screaming “you could have been a princess and he’s nice”
Toxic.
The prince was so nice and accepting he listened to her and didn’t fight when she refused him even when she’d made it seem as though they were courting and ugh we could’ve had it all
But she didn't love the prince...
@@msclaudeee-ca6312 I know but I got attached to him more than Simon and wanted to see him more 😔
@@msclaudeee-ca6312 doesn’t matter, he’s a Prince 😂 besides she may have grown to love him in the end
OH SAME. The prince was sweet, not super bound by tradition since he took her to see the boxing, and seemed to just want a family in England, separate from the court in Prussia!
I agree completely about Lady Danbury explaining racism being solved!
I wondered if they put that scene in to balance the cringy scene where the old man is looking Marina over and insisting that she show him her teeth? Both scenes rubbed me the wrong way.
I also think its dangerous to use Queen Charlotte as a shuttlecock for this sort of thing. She was a real person, some people claim she was black but...she wasn't. Its a bit icky. They should have had a fictional queen as well...because you know as well as I do, that some people will think its accurate. (i.e. reign, the tudors, borgias, etc etc)
yeah I didn't need it mentioned, I thought it was just fine that they cast colourblind
Don't. Even. Get me started.
biracial baby: is born. the writers: well, that solves it.
everyone blamed collin and marina for falling in love way too fast but no one questioned daphne and simon even though the mother knew they weren’t in love first
Marina never fell in love. And it's about the age differences. I know it makes no sense, but women had to marry younger than men, and Daphne is the eldest girl, and Colin is almost the youngest boy. So yeah...
I'm so glad you pointed out the empire waist issue. I always thought the dresses looked really off in this show. Now I know why LOL
What? Cotton poly blend isn't historically accurate??? I love how bad the show is it's verging on camp like there's just blatant zippers and modern hair and makeup and CORSETS ON BARE SKIN
I assumed it was supposed to be an over the top, campy, Regency-esque soap opera. I mean if the violin covers of pop songs weren't a dead giveaway, I don't know what was lol.
@@celticmyst08 right?? It’s good but its not well done
@@emmetharrigan5234 I didn't know anything about it going in and I found it entertaining for what it was. If it WAS trying to be a serious/legit Regency piece then it sure failed horribly...
What's so bad with camp? I thought it was cool and over the top lol. I love when directors just have fun with it. Not everything has to be accurate to the time etc. We have plenty of that give us pop violin covers and fun costumes and over the top drama that is honestly rlly stupid but gets at u anyways lolol
@@GrellxSebby1012 Nothing wrong with camp! I love camp!
This was lovely to watch! Explains a lot, I was quite confused when Penelope commented about not being able to wear dresses like that because as you said we see her wear pink dresses in front of her mother. Also, I had no clue Daphne wore that many dresses they look so similar. Must have taken a lot to make all of that though so hats off to them!
I thought the costumes were basic. They were colorful, but just not fashionable...It was like the costume director commissioned dozens upon dozens of dresses because they needed them; in so doing, there wasn't much thought put into each individual dress.
the music was the worst part for me. hearing a string arrangement of thank u, next took me completely out of the show. i wish they had chosen at the very least actual classical music
Even the classical music they did use was not of the time period. Sienna the opera singer sings "Barcarole" from "The Tales of Hoffman", which was first presented in Paris in 1881, and "The 2nd Waltz" by Shostakovich was composed for the soundtrack for The First Echelon (1955-1956) soviet film.
ikr the music choices were so questionable
wildest dreams TOOK ME OUT LMAO. i hated the soundtrack so so much
Can we talk about the bilie ellish cover ? Ahahahha, that was terrible
IKR. The costumes, I can overlook but the music maaaan.. it's horrible!
Someone else mentioned this but the plump figure was actually ideal so why are they tightlacing corsets?
it's literally just bad writing like it's a huge cliche and it doesn't even make sense with what the viewer can clearly see on the screen, that the dresses have no waistline so it makes no sense 🤦♀️
I totally agree with everything you said! I was so confused when they showed the Queen and her court constantly wearing 1700s clothing even though she literally is the Queen and should always be fashionable. I think Bridgerton is a good show to binge, but I just couldn‘t sympathise with any of the characters (except for Eloise in the end).😅
YES, it would make sense for her to dress maybe a LITTLE older, but the dresses she was wearing were literally from when Queen Charlotte was like 12 irl
The queen mentionning her encounter with mozart "when he was a young boy" was probably the least logical part of the show lol
she was using it as a metaphor ahaha “mozart” being Daphne
No. The actual Queen I think met Mozart when she was younger
Not really Mozart did actually play for the Queen when he was a young boy and it was because of her blessings that his father allowed him to pursue music or at least that's how the story goes
@crush broke that was part of the plot, and it makes sense to me
I feel like there is plenty to discuss in this serie. I too didnt understand why they felt the need to "explain" why POC were accepted in this society. It does not make sense. 1) the myth that love transcend race issues is frankly old and dangerous, maybe it's possible the king fell in love with one WOC but does it mean he didnt have/and still has not racist prejudicices against her and her people ? No. 2) Even in this post-racial society, we would see ordinary racism, cuz you can not expect rich privileged white people to just accept and share their wealth with POC after years of colonialism and racism. Also, all of the characters of color that are central to the storyline are lightskin u___u. (except for the aunt of the Duke, but she is kind of a "magical" black lady, another common trope for black characters :/ ) . There are two characters that the audience do not "know" well, but that are depicted differently because of their physical apparences. The prince (white, rich, young, "pretty") and Nigel Berbrooke (short, "ugly", fat). Nigel is portrayed as a horrible character, even before we know his true intentions, and these negative info are conveyed through...his looks : "ugly", short and fat. The Prince's true intentions are never really revealed, he does not pursue Daphne after her rejection (good boy), but something tells me he would not be demonized like Nigel if he did, just because he is an "attractive" character. In my opinion, we need to talk more about the beauty privilege in general, and fatphobia in portrayal of male characters. 3) SPOILER: The ending also didnt sit well with me, if Simon was the one to want children (Not Daphnee) and had forced Daphnee to be pregnant, it would have been labeled clearly as rape, and having Daphnee change her mind in the end and be finally happy with child would have been atrocious. I really do not think someone who swore to not have children all his life would change his mind that quickly, especially after been raped by someone who he trusted. Also, yeah why no bonnets ???
totally agree about all those moments the show let the stakes drop / no major consequences for pretty dramatic moments. I really liked that the marriage happened halfway through the season though! It surprised me by breaking from the typical structure, which I thought was interesting and entertaining
My favourite character.... from the whole cast... was that one extra with the bleached dreads, like because you could always see him in the background and I feel like he was so easy to spot so like we’d started tallying everytime they reused him in a scene
We are 6 episodes in and he has become a sort of where’s Waldo character for us too!
Nevermind the fact that tightlacing didn't become popular until the late 19th century, it's pretty much impossible to tightlace stays. The eyelets are handsewn and can't take the strain of someone yanking them with all their might. You will literally rip your stays if you try. And yes, I know from first hand experience (a friend and I were bored and tried to tightlace their stays lol did not end well they had to resew a new back panel). Once metal eyelets were introduced corsets could be laced with much more force. And even then, tightlacing was only really done by people who didn't have to get much work done
I don't care about accuracies, I want all of Daphne's dresses. They were so feminine and cute.
That does say something about their design, that the costumes are appealing to us as modern outfits
Compared to the Emma 2020 costumes, they were really lackluster and the fabrics weren't that good. I'd do anything to have any of the costumes from Emma.
I loved the white outfit she wore to the prince’s ball !
The costume designer herself even said the dresses weren’t meant to be historically accurate and that they would have a modern appeal, so why people are whining about that I don’t understand.
i dont know why but daphne had so many dresses and all of them looked the same????
Last time I was this early, your stays would have been worn as undergarments. (Love your Outfit!)
Wow you old...
Totally disagree that the end of the season should be the wedding, I loved that it went into the beginning of marriage and the struggles they went through. It’s not just a happily ever after
I agree with what you said, even tho the sexual tension between Daphne and Simon was INSANE, take that away and you realise how many issues they have. The wedding was so depressing. :(
Also when it comes to the topic of diversity I just want to know why all the leading black characters were light skin yet there were dark skin extras!??!? shondaaa whyyy
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Uhm what? Why make everything an issue geez
@@kyupified2440 BECAUSE IT IS A SERIOUS ISSUE!
@@kyupified2440 its a big issue but it probably doesnt concern you
Weren't they mixed people?
omg thank you for also recognizing the emotional constipation of the guy who played Simon. it got exhausting by the end of the season. I just didn't believe their story together.
I really love that you suggest alternative choices for characters to wear (ie Lady Featherington to look like Mrs Elton, Emily in Paris have more work wear, etc). It avoids bogging a vid with negativity and introduces a lot of better concepts. A cool video would be you completely redesigning a movie or show’s costumes to better fit the story!
I think one of the main issues with the show is that the book series it is based on focuses on one couple and sibling at a time, and Daphne and Simon are honestly one of the weaker and more problematic pairings (although they do have on screen chemistry). So if you don't like the pairing, the show loses a lot of the charm because they are treading water with a lot of the side plots of the more interesting siblings. Also, other issues like the glaring heteronormativity and marital rape, are straight out of the book, while issues they wanted to include, like race and diversity, aren't dealt with, which makes things a bit unbalanced in transition to screen as they have to find ways to make both the book canon and their ambitious interests work with the characters, plot, and time period provided. There also is the push and pull of people wanting historical accuracy and diversity for a reason, and those who just think the show should avoid giving in-universe explanations and just roll with it. I think Bridgerton still has potential; it was fairly entertaining and it is nice to see a show based around romance and the female gaze do well. But, it does have some growing pains to work through that are difficult considering these problems.
i'm hoping they address the rape scene in the next season (maybe showing simon's lack of trust in daphne when they're having sex leading to an ACTUAL DISCUSSION ABOUT IT) but that's definitely optimistic
Well the next sibling is even more problematic imo in that he is consistently physically domineering over the love interest and grabbing her wrists or chin or what have you. I liked the book but...I really hope they tone down his behaviour it was hard to read.
The other issue is they’ve either accidentally or intentionally gay coded Benedict who is like every other sibling, hetero. I don’t know what they’re going to do there and I hope they treat it all with respect!
@@selty I haven't read the second book, I only read the first one for reference, but I definitely hope they will tone it down, the domineering trope is old and gross and I really had hopes for Anthony's character development. It seems like a lot of book readers talk about Anthony's growth, so I hope they actually try to show that. As a couple I have heard Kate and Anthony are less problematic than Daphne and Simon (in the sense Daphne and Simon had a LOT of issues with the whole lying to each other, marital rape and 'fixing' Simon's life goals and trauma without resolving it, issues that are inherent in the relationship as opposed to the enemies-to-lovers dynamic) however I can't speak to that I guess since I haven't read the books. In sum, I totally respect your take on that and hope the show tries to do well by the pairing.
I agree on Benedict. It seems they wanted to make his character more exploratory and were going to do their own thing with him but backed out of it last second. Gave the character less charm, but we don't know necessarily what they have in store for season 2. Hope they can find a balance, although I understand being cautious about sacrificing book canon. It's unrealistic all siblings are straight though so it would be nice if they could do something with it lol.
I loved how Daphne wore blue in all her outfits bc she loves her family and her goal is to be as happy as her parents.She is the only sibling out of the four (the older ones ofc) who wants to find a husband who will improve the high status and reputation that her family has.Her whole story is based around it.Also in the next seasons she is the one that advises her siblings contastly about relationship problems that they have.A great detail in my opinion
Arg tight lacing scene's drive me crazy too, it's such a cliché and isn't accurate grr
I didn't like Daphne at all. She was so "vanilla" and had quite a boring personality
Agreed. Daphne and what's his name weren't my reason for watching the show. I just loved seeing the diversity and plus it's meant to be a historical. One of my favorite genres.
Maybe, you should go ahead and read the books then 🙄
Next seasons girl is amazing 🤩 I hope they announce soon the season 2 thing
@@yaritzacontreras-arroyo2601 are the books better than the show? I'm debating whether or not I should read them
You wouldnt like her in the book then. Cause daph was NEVER the incomparable. She was actually out 3 seasons and everyone thought she was too nice and every guy's BFF and isnt really someone to marry.
the historical inaccuracy that made me want to scream the most was that one gymnast girl wearing stilts
What's wrong with stilts?
I literally just started the show and was looking for someones thoughts on the costuming. Such perfect timing 😂😂💗
Honestly I was just glad they had corsets even, in the books, every man can just pop a t*tty out of a dress with absolutely no effort and there are never corsets (or chemises!) under those ripped bodices. Also every woman wears sleek silk night gowns in the books which is... I'm pretty sure wrong? Overall I enjoyed the nonsense of the show, if you're going to be inaccurate at least be entertaining. I agree with all your points though
I love the pot in the background just says "PLANT" so aggressively
emma is so underrated
Hey girl. I recently watched Tombstone and the Alamo with my dad and the costumes seemed pretty good from what I have learned from your channel. I think a fun video would be analyzing westerns for accuracy. Love your content
you could’ve told me daphne had like 3 dresses the whole show and i would’ve believed you
OMG I'M IN LOVE WITH YOUR "CORSET" your style is unbelievably unique ✨✨