We had problems with the cabbage moth on our broccoli and cabbage for a couple of years in a row. We only had one garden space, about 20 x 20, behind the garage. The 2nd year I spent time every day hunting for eggs and caterpillars on the underside of all the leaves and was able to save a good deal of our harvest. We loved picking broccoli nearly everyday for snacks or dinner. Anyhow, the third year I went to Walmart and bought a few yards of the cheapest and thinnest tulle fabric I could find and draped it over the brassica plants and secured it at the ends around stakes and under rocks at the ends. It worked. The cabbage moth couldn't get under it to lay any eggs. The wedding was over. :-) The plants were large enough that the fabric did not seem to bother them at all. If it rained I would shake off the fabric to lighten it.
Another informative show for us Nova Scotians. I just got some tulle and used it to cover my strawberries and a few other plants I am starting. Not that expensive.
We used beer in a shallow pan. Slugs love the stuff; every morning we'd empty the pan of the dead slugs and refill it. We had to quit using it when our cat started drinking all the beer.
I am an urban back yard Permaculture guy. Snails, slugs and earwigs, are drawn to the smell of soy sauce and to fish sauce. I use old yoghurt and sour cream containers and cut a flap in the side, up about 2/3 of the way from bottom. Then add a tablespoon of cooking oil with a few drops of soy or the fish sauce. Then bury it up to the flap. The buggers can’t resist crawling in, and due to the oil, can’t get back out. Since I use 3-4 inches of straw mulch at all times, I would be overrun with these pests in particular. It works. Every few months I add the bait again. Keep the lids on the containers, to prevent water intrusion.
Jim Willeford 🤩 wow! First time I heard of soy sauce- have to try that. I live on Oregon coast. Very sluggy. The flashlight at night and hand picking them seem to be the only way I can keep them at a tolerable level. Gets old I have to admit--
If you get netting over the kale early, you won't need the bacteria for caterpillars. I was late covering mine this year and had to look under each leaf for a long while to pick caterpillars off! But I got them clear in the end.
I prefer to simply blast them with btk twice a season. Takes minutes, one tiny bottle last years, even with the amount of kale that I grow. I would even predict that you'd get more seasons out of bottle of btk than you would out of the netting. I don't see the down side, but do whatever works for you :) Anyway, glad you got your sorted out. Love this time of year - kale are still growing but it's too cold for most of the pests!
I've never had a pest problem here, I think it's because of all the frogs / toads we have lol BUT this year was the first year |I planted cabbage and wouldn't you know it I saw a bunch of white moths, fluttering around them like little cute fairies. I spread a bunch of horse manure along a fence line to make a new bed for beets I thunk I'll plant my cabbage over there, If I do cabbage next year, *I compost the horse manure witch propagates toads like crazy. Pile it, wet it down and cover with a tarp Momma Toads love to lay eggs in it. Keeps mosquito population down ; )
The thing is we have so many here they find creative ways procreate. A strategy that male frogs use to ensure that their own DNA gets passed on, instead of the DNA of their rivals. Sexual selection may trump, natural selection in the evolution of these reproductive behaviors, according to new study's. Frog's are a big deal around here lol. We have a few nature preserved areas. |I happen to live across the road from one. Its more apparent in tropical areas but if you have the right environment, 'wet compost pile,' to permit reproduction on land without eggs or tadpoles drying up. *Frogs have a "dizzying array" of reproductive strategies. 🐸
Your Lacinato kale is looking especially good. This year, I was thinking of following Charles Dowding's advice and transplanting my kale plants into the garden at summer solstice, when most if its pests are gone.
Charles Dowding gardens in the U.K. What works there may not work where you are. I find no shortage of kale pests here where I am in late June. That's roughly when I moved mine, and there were plenty of slugs, flea beetles and cabbage moths waiting for them. Anyway, maybe it will work for you where you are - worth a try anyway. Let me know how it goes :)
I suspect that the plants (from seeds that were scattered in the fall) grew so well is because they were naturally selected for cold hardiness - the weaklings died off as they sprouted & only the cold-hardy ones survived. One benefit from saving seeds is that you are using seeds from plants that thrived in your specific environment.
Yeah the first year i grew kale i never really got to try it the one time I did my family didnt like it so I didn't try it no more they liked the collards and cabbage better so I've been growing those instead but I grow them in the fall so that butterfly babies kicked my butt so hard they changed the way I garden but I think I'll try to take back my right to plant when I want lol.
Interesting information, here in Socal, our tomatoe worms come from a little while butterfly...last year I would get 20 to 30 worms a day, devastate a plant rapidly. I'm not sure what a cabbage moth is, but I grew some zucchini, as soon as fruit was on, these weird bugs showed up and leveled the plants, never seen them before or since....bizarre.
@@tanahiveley2887 I got mine at my local feed store. I've seen it at nurseries as well. It comes in a small concentrated bottle. You then mix it with water in a spray bottle. The small consentrated bottle has enough in it to last several gardening seasons. You then simply spray the brassica plants leaves all over. I repeat every couple of weeks.
What I did one time I had alfalfa rabbit food and herd that it's good for your plants . So I put it around my plants whent out one day and the slugs where eating that instead
I enjoyed the video, these are all reasonable solutions. Subscribed. The first 2 are completely harmless to other bugs and animals, the last, if used as directed is mostly harmless too, especially if used only on greens, as shown here. A couple of notes that I want to add, I fear that I may cause a little offense, but I think they do need clarification: The moths are not called "white flies". Normally it wouldn't matter, except that there is another, totally different, pest that goes by that name. The other thing that I noticed in the comments section, is that someone called BT, "BTK". BT is the correct term, BTK is an unfortunate nickname for a serial killer who "Bound, Tortured, and Killed" his victims. If you google BTK, you won't get results for catapiller killer, you'll get results about the serial killer. Have a wonderful day!
You're right about the catepillar. It's a butterfly that goes by a number of manes - none of them are "white fly". "cabbage white" is a common name. re: BTK - it's called that on the bottle. "Bacillus thuringiensis kustaki". kustaki is the variant of Bacillus thuringiensis that works on the pests. There are range of varieties of Bacillus thuringiensis.
@@maritimegardening4887 Aha! You learn something new every day. That's a really unfortunate abbreviation decision for them, at least if someone just searches the abbreviated name on Google 😀
Make sure it’s only used coffee grounds. Fresh ones can stress ur plants because the caffeine messes with them. Coffee grounds have always worked for me, but I do mostly transplants.
I live in eastern NC, and they have destroyed all our cabbage this year. I just put diatomaceous earth all over them and hopefully it works on them nasty rascles. I also do not like putting poison out like Seven Dust, but I will if the diatomaceous earth doesn't work. We gotta eat, right!
Do you know the effects on honeybees? OMRI does not necessarily mean safe for honeybees. Many organic products need to be applied either very early in the day or quite late when the honeybees are less active, and the product left to dry completely. Pyrethrin although derived from a natural source like chrysanthemums, can harm honeybees. Thank you for these product suggestions but let’s read the labels carefully for information on honeybees.
I apply it to greens, so the bees are elsewhere, getting nectar from flowers. I only need these products for greens, all my veg that flower (beans.squash/cukes/etc.) seem to take care of themselves, and the bees are all over them. The garden literally buzzes in August.
CARLOTA ------- i grow chrysanthemums , and i still have bee s in my garden . listen very very carefully , some plants have a NATURAL protection against certain animals , from insects to birds -- bee s ---- humans and even fish cannot eat certain algea or coral !! GET OVER IT ,, its NATURE -- and we - as humans will have to make mistakes replicating nature and finding the right path towards protecting our food --- sometimes we get it right and sometimes we do not get it right . it s all trial and error.
Simple, don't spray flowering plants. He specifically said you don't need to apply to mature plants, immature plants are not flowering and there for of no interest to bees.
this year my garden is absolutely demolished by slug, flea beetle, caterpillars you name it.... I have followed your advice on mulching pretty heavily around my entire garden... but I think the hay I used has created perfect breeding ground for this infestation... I've planted dozens of different things twice now... and every single plant has been wiped out before it could develop its second set of leaves.... I simply cannot bring myself to use something as devastating as Sevin or the like.... so please tell me.... does this stuff seriously work and do you recommend it still 3 years later??..... thank you
I still use all three products when needed. Once the plants get some size on, they are ok for slugs, snails and f-beetles. Some years the whitefly are bad so I use the BTK - though I didn't need to use any last year. Slugs and snails are everywhere, though they are as effective as worms at breaking down rotting material - so beneficial in a sense. Anyway man, the end all and the slug and snail killer totally work. When I made that video Safers was a sponsor of the podcast - but it was me that called them to offer them the opportunity because I liked the products so much. As of this year they are no longer sponsoring Maritime gardening - but I still use their products and think they're great.
@@maritimegardening4887 thank you for a timely response... I'm going out to get the stuff today!... also I'm very glad to hear slugs have a benefit as decomposers... I do believe because this is my first year doing this deep mulch method and I just moved in a thousand pounds of hay, that there hasn't been enough time for the "predator/prey" relationship to balance out yet... that's why I'm so happy I found your video and you are conscious of the natural cycles of things while still pursuing results... thanks again
DE works for slugs if there's no rain. Slugs are at the worst here in spring, when it rains all the time, so you need to apply it almost daily, which is not really manageable in a garden my size. By contrast, a small amount of the slug bait used in this video, every 2-3 weeks in may/june (don't need it in july/august/onward) does the job.
My brassica's are pretty much done this year due to flea beetle, it is soul destroying :( We live on the South Shore, NS and this year they are just in carpets on everything.
Well I blasted the plants with Safers End-all and within two hours the flea beetles were in carpets again. We have been self-sustainable for 10 years and have a very large garden, this is the first year I am pretty much feeling beat. I had over 30 brassica's of all descriptions that are now done. They just need pulling up. All my seeds failed, or got eaten, and most of the transplants are dead. I need to replant whole areas. Nightmare :(
I've been following your TH-cam channel and the podcasts for a while now. All the content has been very informative but I have issues with this video. I'd rather see natural non commercial ways of dealing with pests. I'd rather loose a plant versus using commercial products. Other than that, Greg and Dave rock the gardening world. Keep it up!
Hi Chris: I understand your point, and I do mention those, and have tried most of not all of them and found them unsatisfactory to deal with the problem on the scale that I am currently experiencing it. My point in this vid, like in the related podcast, is to be real with people, and show that even when you have the goal of being totally natural, sometimes it just doesn't work. So, when this happens you have to choose between the option of: (a) do i watch my food disappear, or (b) do i shell out some money and buy the most benign/natural poisons I can find. Like you, I'd rather lose a plant than use commercial products, but I have no interest in losing all my plants in adhering to my principles, and that's what happened two years ago. I kept waiting for the system to find its balance, and the pests ate all my brassicas that year. Moreover, while I feature some Safers products, the point is to use whatever you can find, and forgive yourself, but continue to work toward that goal of the input free permaculture garden. Perhaps I didn;t give that enough lip service in the vid, but that's where I'm coming from. Again, as I say in the video - I haven't gotten a penny from Safers, nor do I have any sort of agreement in place with them for promotion. They gave me some stuff to try, because I have a podcast, and I'm reciprocating by sharing with my viewership my experience with the product. There's plenty of youtubers out there talking about beer traps and such, so I thought this would add something new to the conversation. This one was for people with really intense pest problems. As I said in the video, if your problems are minor, then you don't need this stuff. Anyway, sorry this one was not to your liking, and I hope you stay with me.
Do honeybees eat kale greens? There are no flowers on the plants that I apply this organic gardening product to, and furthermore, it breaks down fast. I am happy to accept critique and engage in debate, but make you comments rational and based on reality please.
Again, I only use pyrethrin-basd miticide on my greens. I do not use on my apple trees, nor did I recommend that in the video. I use pyrethrin sparingly in spring to control flea beetles that attack some of my young greens. I use BTK on brassicas about twice or three times a year, it breaks down in 12 hours - and only pests that eat the greens are affected by it. My goodness man, I'm guessing you're not a regular watcher and don't know where I'm coming from. I'm on your side dude. You honey bees woudl be happy as hell in my back yard. I have bees everywhere!
@@maritimegardening4887 The problem is not where you use it its where it leaches to over time. The ground will absorb it and so there fore get into the plants planted in that area after.
@@danameable Long before that happens the chemicals (which are derived from chrysanthemums by the way) break down at a molecular level and become other things that are benign. End-all 2 is pyrethyin and insecticidal soap based. I use it because its benign - my well is underneath all that soil, do you think I'd poison myself and my kids? I use this product because it is benign. People hear "insecticide" and lose their minds. All insecticides are not equally toxic. All chemicals are not bad - in fact, everything is a chemical - your body is made of chemicals! Also, toxicity is a question of dosage. In terms of Safers End-all, for the entire 2018 I used less than half a spray bottle, and I have a 2500 sq foot garden. Even if it was made of chemicals that don't break down into benign constituents, which it isn't, that would not have an appreciable effect at that quantity. My goodness, you'd think I was spraying depleted uranium on my property or something.
We had problems with the cabbage moth on our broccoli and cabbage for a couple of years in a row. We only had one garden space, about 20 x 20, behind the garage. The 2nd year I spent time every day hunting for eggs and caterpillars on the underside of all the leaves and was able to save a good deal of our harvest. We loved picking broccoli nearly everyday for snacks or dinner.
Anyhow, the third year I went to Walmart and bought a few yards of the cheapest and thinnest tulle fabric I could find and draped it over the brassica plants and secured it at the ends around stakes and under rocks at the ends. It worked. The cabbage moth couldn't get under it to lay any eggs. The wedding was over. :-) The plants were large enough that the fabric did not seem to bother them at all. If it rained I would shake off the fabric to lighten it.
Good solution!
This method works well for me too.
Another informative show for us Nova Scotians. I just got some tulle and used it to cover my strawberries and a few other plants I am starting. Not that expensive.
We used beer in a shallow pan. Slugs love the stuff; every morning we'd empty the pan of the dead slugs and refill it. We had to quit using it when our cat started drinking all the beer.
Are you sure it was the cat?
SandraH lol
Use yeast in sugar water
Good advice! I tried everything on flea beetles but DE really helped!
I am an urban back yard Permaculture guy. Snails, slugs and earwigs, are drawn to the smell of soy sauce and to fish sauce. I use old yoghurt and sour cream containers and cut a flap in the side, up about 2/3 of the way from bottom. Then add a tablespoon of cooking oil with a few drops of soy or the fish sauce. Then bury it up to the flap. The buggers can’t resist crawling in, and due to the oil, can’t get back out.
Since I use 3-4 inches of straw mulch at all times, I would be overrun with these pests in particular. It works. Every few months I add the bait again. Keep the lids on the containers, to prevent water intrusion.
Jim Willeford 🤩 wow! First time I heard of soy sauce- have to try that. I live on Oregon coast. Very sluggy. The flashlight at night and hand picking them seem to be the only way I can keep them at a tolerable level. Gets old I have to admit--
If you get netting over the kale early, you won't need the bacteria for caterpillars. I was late covering mine this year and had to look under each leaf for a long while to pick caterpillars off! But I got them clear in the end.
I prefer to simply blast them with btk twice a season. Takes minutes, one tiny bottle last years, even with the amount of kale that I grow. I would even predict that you'd get more seasons out of bottle of btk than you would out of the netting. I don't see the down side, but do whatever works for you :) Anyway, glad you got your sorted out. Love this time of year - kale are still growing but it's too cold for most of the pests!
I've never had a pest problem here, I think it's because of all the frogs / toads we have lol BUT this year was the first year |I planted cabbage and wouldn't you know it I saw a bunch of white moths, fluttering around them like little cute fairies. I spread a bunch of horse manure along a fence line to make a new bed for beets I thunk I'll plant my cabbage over there, If I do cabbage next year,
*I compost the horse manure witch propagates toads like crazy. Pile it, wet it down and cover with a tarp Momma Toads love to lay eggs in it. Keeps mosquito population down ; )
You know toads lay their eggs in water right?
@@maritimegardening4887 I'll have to take a picture next year to show you, the area I live in is one big swamp
@@lorineidtinytoadplot744 My point was how can they lay their eggs in a pile of manure when they lay them in water so the eggs can become tadpoles?
The thing is we have so many here they find creative ways procreate. A strategy that male frogs use to ensure that their own DNA gets passed on, instead of the DNA of their rivals. Sexual selection may trump, natural selection in the evolution of these
reproductive behaviors, according to new study's.
Frog's are a big deal around here lol. We have a few nature preserved areas. |I happen to live across the road from one.
Its more apparent in tropical areas but if you have the right environment, 'wet compost pile,' to permit reproduction on land without eggs or tadpoles drying up.
*Frogs have a "dizzying array" of reproductive strategies. 🐸
Your Lacinato kale is looking especially good. This year, I was thinking of following Charles Dowding's advice and transplanting my kale plants into the garden at summer solstice, when most if its pests are gone.
Charles Dowding gardens in the U.K. What works there may not work where you are. I find no shortage of kale pests here where I am in late June. That's roughly when I moved mine, and there were plenty of slugs, flea beetles and cabbage moths waiting for them. Anyway, maybe it will work for you where you are - worth a try anyway. Let me know how it goes :)
I suspect that the plants (from seeds that were scattered in the fall) grew so well is because they were naturally selected for cold hardiness - the weaklings died off as they sprouted & only the cold-hardy ones survived. One benefit from saving seeds is that you are using seeds from plants that thrived in your specific environment.
Yeah the first year i grew kale i never really got to try it the one time I did my family didnt like it so I didn't try it no more they liked the collards and cabbage better so I've been growing those instead but I grow them in the fall so that butterfly babies kicked my butt so hard they changed the way I garden but I think I'll try to take back my right to plant when I want lol.
Great video
Thanks!
Interesting information, here in Socal, our tomatoe worms come from a little while butterfly...last year I would get 20 to 30 worms a day, devastate a plant rapidly. I'm not sure what a cabbage moth is, but I grew some zucchini, as soon as fruit was on, these weird bugs showed up and leveled the plants, never seen them before or since....bizarre.
try the BTK next season and se what happens :)
I used BTK (baccillus thuringiensis) last season on my brassicas. I couldn't believe how well it worked.
Yes, I can't believe how long it took me to try it for the 1st time!
Does BT work on flea beetles?
What is BTK and where do I get it?
@@tanahiveley2887 I got mine at my local feed store. I've seen it at nurseries as well. It comes in a small concentrated bottle. You then mix it with water in a spray bottle. The small consentrated bottle has enough in it to last several gardening seasons. You then simply spray the brassica plants leaves all over. I repeat every couple of weeks.
What I did one time I had alfalfa rabbit food and herd that it's good for your plants . So I put it around my plants whent out one day and the slugs where eating that instead
Flea beetles are wiping me out this year!
Get some of that end-all or something like that before it's too late :)
I enjoyed the video, these are all reasonable solutions. Subscribed. The first 2 are completely harmless to other bugs and animals, the last, if used as directed is mostly harmless too, especially if used only on greens, as shown here.
A couple of notes that I want to add, I fear that I may cause a little offense, but I think they do need clarification:
The moths are not called "white flies". Normally it wouldn't matter, except that there is another, totally different, pest that goes by that name.
The other thing that I noticed in the comments section, is that someone called BT, "BTK".
BT is the correct term, BTK is an unfortunate nickname for a serial killer who "Bound, Tortured, and Killed" his victims. If you google BTK, you won't get results for catapiller killer, you'll get results about the serial killer.
Have a wonderful day!
You're right about the catepillar. It's a butterfly that goes by a number of manes - none of them are "white fly". "cabbage white" is a common name. re: BTK - it's called that on the bottle. "Bacillus thuringiensis kustaki". kustaki is the variant of Bacillus thuringiensis that works on the pests. There are range of varieties of Bacillus thuringiensis.
@@maritimegardening4887 Aha! You learn something new every day. That's a really unfortunate abbreviation decision for them, at least if someone just searches the abbreviated name on Google 😀
@@farmerjon5532 I agree it's too bad - but I'm pretty sure the bacterial variant predated the serial killer :)
@@maritimegardening4887 😂
Gosh flea beetles decimate my tomatoes out here in Alberta ! I’m conflicted treating them as they have bee-attracting flowers.
They need it most when they are young and don't have flowers - so It's not a threat to bees
Make sure it’s only used coffee grounds. Fresh ones can stress ur plants because the caffeine messes with them. Coffee grounds have always worked for me, but I do mostly transplants.
I live in eastern NC, and they have destroyed all our cabbage this year. I just put diatomaceous earth all over them and hopefully it works on them nasty rascles. I also do not like putting poison out like Seven Dust, but I will if the diatomaceous earth doesn't work. We gotta eat, right!
My kitchen garden was devoured by white fly this summer. Please tell me what you used against them?
I use the BTK that I mentioned in this video when they are bad.
Do you know the effects on honeybees? OMRI does not necessarily mean safe for honeybees. Many organic products need to be applied either very early in the day or quite late when the honeybees are less active, and the product left to dry completely. Pyrethrin although derived from a natural source like chrysanthemums, can harm honeybees. Thank you for these product suggestions but let’s read the labels carefully for information on honeybees.
I apply it to greens, so the bees are elsewhere, getting nectar from flowers. I only need these products for greens, all my veg that flower (beans.squash/cukes/etc.) seem to take care of themselves, and the bees are all over them. The garden literally buzzes in August.
Big fan of bees by the way :)
maritimegardening.com/035-the-benefits-of-bees/
CARLOTA ------- i grow chrysanthemums , and i still have bee s in my garden .
listen very very carefully , some plants have a NATURAL protection against certain animals , from insects to birds -- bee s ---- humans and even fish cannot eat certain algea or coral !!
GET OVER IT ,, its NATURE -- and we - as humans will have to make mistakes replicating nature and finding the right path towards protecting our food --- sometimes we get it right and sometimes we do not get it right . it s all trial and error.
Simple, don't spray flowering plants. He specifically said you don't need to apply to mature plants, immature plants are not flowering and there for of no interest to bees.
this year my garden is absolutely demolished by slug, flea beetle, caterpillars you name it.... I have followed your advice on mulching pretty heavily around my entire garden... but I think the hay I used has created perfect breeding ground for this infestation... I've planted dozens of different things twice now... and every single plant has been wiped out before it could develop its second set of leaves.... I simply cannot bring myself to use something as devastating as Sevin or the like.... so please tell me.... does this stuff seriously work and do you recommend it still 3 years later??..... thank you
I still use all three products when needed. Once the plants get some size on, they are ok for slugs, snails and f-beetles. Some years the whitefly are bad so I use the BTK - though I didn't need to use any last year. Slugs and snails are everywhere, though they are as effective as worms at breaking down rotting material - so beneficial in a sense. Anyway man, the end all and the slug and snail killer totally work. When I made that video Safers was a sponsor of the podcast - but it was me that called them to offer them the opportunity because I liked the products so much. As of this year they are no longer sponsoring Maritime gardening - but I still use their products and think they're great.
@@maritimegardening4887 thank you for a timely response... I'm going out to get the stuff today!... also I'm very glad to hear slugs have a benefit as decomposers... I do believe because this is my first year doing this deep mulch method and I just moved in a thousand pounds of hay, that there hasn't been enough time for the "predator/prey" relationship to balance out yet... that's why I'm so happy I found your video and you are conscious of the natural cycles of things while still pursuing results... thanks again
@@thrive-like-a-viking I think I might make a video on this topic soon so that's for the inspiration
DE works grat for slugs. BT works great for all kinds of caterpillars.
DE works for slugs if there's no rain. Slugs are at the worst here in spring, when it rains all the time, so you need to apply it almost daily, which is not really manageable in a garden my size. By contrast, a small amount of the slug bait used in this video, every 2-3 weeks in may/june (don't need it in july/august/onward) does the job.
Watch The documentory restoration of Heligan garden. A garden the was destroyed in world war. They used seaweed to fight cabbage moth.
I use seaweed in my garden
Wasps eat caterpillars I noticed they do on our brassica. UK that is
They that here too. I've not needed BTK here for the last 2 years due to the population of wasps having increased :)
My brassica's are pretty much done this year due to flea beetle, it is soul destroying :( We live on the South Shore, NS and this year they are just in carpets on everything.
Try the safers end-all - it will save them!
I am off to Canadian Tire tomorrow to get some, they have two bottles left!
Let me know how it goes. I find a good blast last about a week. One the plants get big they don't seem to need it at all.
Well I blasted the plants with Safers End-all and within two hours the flea beetles were in carpets again. We have been self-sustainable for 10 years and have a very large garden, this is the first year I am pretty much feeling beat. I had over 30 brassica's of all descriptions that are now done. They just need pulling up. All my seeds failed, or got eaten, and most of the transplants are dead. I need to replant whole areas. Nightmare :(
Do you think BT would kill slugs?
No - it only kills caterpillars
Use slug bait or slug be gone. BT is helpful with potatoe bugs if you start spraying even before planting.
What is killing my cucumbers. I’m done to one from 8
Might be some clues here: hgic.clemson.edu/factsheet/cucumber-squash-melon-other-cucurbit-insect-pests/
beer traps help
I've been following your TH-cam channel and the podcasts for a while now. All the content has been very informative but I have issues with this video. I'd rather see natural non commercial ways of dealing with pests. I'd rather loose a plant versus using commercial products. Other than that, Greg and Dave rock the gardening world. Keep it up!
Hi Chris: I understand your point, and I do mention those, and have tried most of not all of them and found them unsatisfactory to deal with the problem on the scale that I am currently experiencing it. My point in this vid, like in the related podcast, is to be real with people, and show that even when you have the goal of being totally natural, sometimes it just doesn't work. So, when this happens you have to choose between the option of: (a) do i watch my food disappear, or (b) do i shell out some money and buy the most benign/natural poisons I can find. Like you, I'd rather lose a plant than use commercial products, but I have no interest in losing all my plants in adhering to my principles, and that's what happened two years ago. I kept waiting for the system to find its balance, and the pests ate all my brassicas that year. Moreover, while I feature some Safers products, the point is to use whatever you can find, and forgive yourself, but continue to work toward that goal of the input free permaculture garden. Perhaps I didn;t give that enough lip service in the vid, but that's where I'm coming from. Again, as I say in the video - I haven't gotten a penny from Safers, nor do I have any sort of agreement in place with them for promotion. They gave me some stuff to try, because I have a podcast, and I'm reciprocating by sharing with my viewership my experience with the product. There's plenty of youtubers out there talking about beer traps and such, so I thought this would add something new to the conversation. This one was for people with really intense pest problems. As I said in the video, if your problems are minor, then you don't need this stuff. Anyway, sorry this one was not to your liking, and I hope you stay with me.
Chris Wood ;
Re slugs, use wood ashes, natural product which also feeds the earth. Denis from Montreal.
Losing you toads is why the slugs.
I have lots of toads. I have lots of frogs. I have lots of snakes. This is just a sluggy part of the world.
honeybee killer
Do honeybees eat kale greens? There are no flowers on the plants that I apply this organic gardening product to, and furthermore, it breaks down fast. I am happy to accept critique and engage in debate, but make you comments rational and based on reality please.
Beekeepers leaving orchards that uses Miticide reports gains of up to 20% winter Survivability .
Again, I only use pyrethrin-basd miticide on my greens. I do not use on my apple trees, nor did I recommend that in the video. I use pyrethrin sparingly in spring to control flea beetles that attack some of my young greens. I use BTK on brassicas about twice or three times a year, it breaks down in 12 hours - and only pests that eat the greens are affected by it. My goodness man, I'm guessing you're not a regular watcher and don't know where I'm coming from. I'm on your side dude. You honey bees woudl be happy as hell in my back yard. I have bees everywhere!
@@maritimegardening4887 The problem is not where you use it its where it leaches to over time. The ground will absorb it and so there fore get into the plants planted in that area after.
@@danameable Long before that happens the chemicals (which are derived from chrysanthemums by the way) break down at a molecular level and become other things that are benign. End-all 2 is pyrethyin and insecticidal soap based. I use it because its benign - my well is underneath all that soil, do you think I'd poison myself and my kids? I use this product because it is benign. People hear "insecticide" and lose their minds. All insecticides are not equally toxic. All chemicals are not bad - in fact, everything is a chemical - your body is made of chemicals! Also, toxicity is a question of dosage. In terms of Safers End-all, for the entire 2018 I used less than half a spray bottle, and I have a 2500 sq foot garden. Even if it was made of chemicals that don't break down into benign constituents, which it isn't, that would not have an appreciable effect at that quantity. My goodness, you'd think I was spraying depleted uranium on my property or something.
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