Yes! Well said. This one sounds more in line with music I listened to as a kid and what influenced me into music production. Definitely earned its place.
@@S9MusicProd I'd say Ample for quick and easy results, Shreddage if you like being able to tweak a lot and really change how the instrument sounds. Tbh they're really different beasts and sometimes one works better, sometimes the other
It sounds so good! They implement velocity in a way so at the peak of how hard a key is pressed it’ll trigger the harmonic squeal articulation and adds that extra layer of fun while playing scales or writing them in a MIDI roll.
@@TobyRyan Try noodling around with it wired up to scaler2 using the CHORD EXTENSIONS feature ;) (go into settings and set chords to mute) great for ripping out melodies and solos. Then can go in after and articulate the notes which you recorded out of scaler.
Lately I observe that competition of guitar samplers: whos lowest string is the lowest. At first V-Metal was a thing I was using normally, but it was only a 6-string. Then some Ample guitar caught my interest with 7 strings. Then Shreddage Hydra upped that count to 8 (I even gave it an octave down). But hold your knickers, Ample is releasing a 9-string beast! What's next, a 69-string?
After using this for a couple months, there is really no way to play these VST's live well, requires too much tweaking on different notes that can't be done in realtime, like adding strum noises, adjusting velocities etc
Great question! In the settings there are options for customizable pitch bend for octaves, that I use to simulate a ‘whammy bar’ style sound. Then for the Mod Wheel there are customizable manual and automatic vibrato options.
UI Metal-GTX with sforzando. It doesn't sound as realistic, and it only goes to G2 before it starts messing with the sound of it (switches it to mute, hammer, slide etc instead of sustain).
Nothing too fancy. The D# trick is triggered with velocity, so at the hardest velocity tap of a key, it changes the sample to the sick bend you hear. Makes for a great realistic character. There is also the touch strip on the far left of the keyboard. Its configured to be a pitch bend and mod wheel. The pitch bend and mod wheel on this VST bends and also has an auto-vibrato which can add a little extra character.
1. You mentioned the Octaves of the HR. What is the Eclipse missing vs the Hellraizer. 2. Is the Riff generator on the Eclipse the exact same as the Hellraiser with the exception that the Eclipse has the Strummer? I've been trying to find a good comparison between the two, but it's been difficult.
Hey Seth, great questions! 1.) The difference between them is tone, Strummer, and range: 18 extra playable notes across the keyboard. Eclipse All Keys: F#-1 to B6 Hellrazer All Keys: D#-2 to B6 2.) That is correct. They both have the same Riffer, Tab, amps, cabs, and mixing effects. Hellrazer does not have Strummer. Aside from range, tone, that’s the one feature I can find that is different. 3.) to give an idea tonally: Eclipse has presets that are more in line with artists like: Rammstein, Limp Bizkit, Pantera, and more. Hellrazer has presets in line with artists like: Silverstein, Slip Knot, Periphery, and more. Both are incredible guitars. From my experience, they keep getting better with each new update. I need to make vid on Eclipse, it’s awesome in its own way .
@@TobyRyan I found that Eclipse is: C, G, C, F, A, D. Hellrazer is C#, F#, B, E, A, D, G, B, E Huge difference in range. No idea still on the Riff Generator differences. I suppose it doesn't matter though for me at least. I purchased Hellrazer. The range difference is the sell.
Yes. Palm Muting is very easy as it’s an articulation switch triggered by a key on the midi keyboard. It can do sustain, natural harmonics, palm mute, Slide in, Legato Slide, hammer on and pull off, and tap. It makes it convenient to press or program in any of those articulations on the fly or in a midi roll, and even the riffer feature.
I can’t speak on Shreddage 3 specifically as I’ve not used that particular instrument. I have, however, used and own plenty of Kontakt based guitar libraries and they’re all really good. Kontakt based guitars are generally easier to jump in a use, and are focused on specific styles of performance like Riffing, or strumming and perform those specific areas really well. Ample Sounds offerings are a little more advanced, in terms of having articulations, adjustable nuances, and customization of every aspect which needs to be written in or performed manually which can be overwhelming at first because it can do so much. I would definitely download the free version of their electric guitar offerings and try it out to see if it’s something you enjoy writing with.
@@TobyRyan thanks for your answer, you know what happens, is that the eclipse metal 2 no matter how much I play on my keyboard the palm mutes do not sound with enough "resonance" for the style I want metal type, instead the heavier 7 strings guitar the palm mutes They sound crisp and with good resonance, so I hope the new Hellrazer 3 has that resonance I need, can you make a video playing palm mutes with your Hellrazer 3 friend?
what kind of keyboard is that? i am having trouble with pitch bends idk if its my mod wheel or my daw setting that's causing it. I contacted ample's technical support to see if they can figure it out but I'll have to wait for a response. Having the same trouble with shreddage modulation pitch bend wheel too. the pitch bends sound glitchy
Hello! In the video, I’m using a Komplete Kontrol S49 MK1. It’s a touch strip style mod wheel. I also use the KK A25 which has a physical mod wheel. Both have smooth bends. If it’s both instruments, in your DAW you might try using automation to see how it sounds. That could help troubleshoot if it’s your physical hardware or the virtual instruments.
Great question! And no you don’t need anything other than a DAW. This is its own dedicated plugin / VST. It does have a two part installer, one for the plugin and the second installer for the samples. Useful if you prefer installing the large volume of samples on a separate hard drive. Conveniently it does come with a standalone app that can run the guitar, but I don’t use that since I run it in my DAW. You might check their support page to see which DAWs they support. Most common DAWs are supported.
That’s a more complicated question to answer, because the answer can be yes, but also possibly no. In my experience, I have not run into the issue of unwanted phasing with these guitars. In the event that it does it’s an easy fix to adjust performance timing of midi notes and timing variability so that it blends better with stacked guitars. That can really make stacked guitars sound full and rich.
@@AzathothsAlarmClock that’s fair. in my experience, you could also just Mono the guitar, hardpan, duplicate track, hardpan second the opposite direction. Now the secret here is to shift your midi notes in the second guitar’s midi roll slightly from the other track so they don’t trigger at the exact same time. This increases the variability between the two. If you’re really lazy, you could even use a MIDI generator plugin with velocity and note variability to randomize each note slightly (also known as humanizing.) from the beat so you don’t have to shift by hand. Paired with the randomized round robins of this particular guitar, it makes for an incredibly flexible instrument. One of my favorite tricks for giving a little extra juice. Think of it like the live guitar trick where a mixing engineer will Melodyne a guitar after recording, then slightly shift notes of one guitar to the left or right of the beat, manually humanizing, in the event, they want a double but didn’t have the guitarist to record again. This trick works like a charm on vocals too and can be used on any VST guitar that you enjoy the sound of but might not crank dials exactly the way you think sounds best in your particular mix. This Hellraiser does have a double knob though which saves a ton of time and gets a great doubling sound. You’re right though, having a quick and easy way to hard pan for mixing does feel essential for saving time from doing it manually.
Haha! No, not that I know of. Would be fun though! Warhammer is awesome. Is there a specific unit in-game or a character? Curious to hear the voice you're referring to.
I added ample sound to Cakewalk when plugged guitar and this message pop up "error code 7; 14; plugin has no sound". Could someone please explain how to fix it?
I’m not as familiar with FL Studio, but I would imagine yes if it uses VST, and or AU. These are 64-bit only plugins, so if you’re running a 32-bit only OS or version of FL Studio, it won’t be compatible as 32-bit is not supported on Windows version of the plugin.
can this guitar do chords well? I'm looking to make some metalcore type music, so I´m looking for a guitar that can give me some sick lows for breakdowns but also clean chords for the chorus, great video btw :)
That’s a really good question! Technically, the Hellrazer is designed for riffing and does not have the Chord/Strum feature, however, if you’re needing that the Ample Metal Eclipse does have the chord/strum feature and excels at that. I personally still use AMH to play power chords since it can do open and muted strings. The main tab is still versatile at going from manually played power chords and then jumping into a riff/melody. For some, it’s definitely more challenging to write in that way, but I’m hardcore like that and enjoy the process.
@@TobyRyan thanks for the reply man! i got the AME just this afternoon, but I can't seem to get that tone I'm looking for, would you ever consider doing a metalcore tutorial with the AME? Something like MIW, or AA, the old metalcore edgy kid days lmao
This instrument is not free. However, they do have a few free guitars over on Plugin Boutique, if you’re interested here’s a link to them. www.pluginboutique.com/manufacturers/213-Ample-Sound
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It's a really good guitar VSTi, definitely earned its place in my arsenal among ISW shreddage series and other ample sound guitars
Yes! Well said. This one sounds more in line with music I listened to as a kid and what influenced me into music production. Definitely earned its place.
What would u prefer? Shreddage or Ample? Looking at the overall library...
@@S9MusicProd I'd say Ample for quick and easy results, Shreddage if you like being able to tweak a lot and really change how the instrument sounds. Tbh they're really different beasts and sometimes one works better, sometimes the other
This virtual guitar is a beast 👌
Brilliant. I picked this one up. It;s a no-brainer
It sounds so good! They implement velocity in a way so at the peak of how hard a key is pressed it’ll trigger the harmonic squeal articulation and adds that extra layer of fun while playing scales or writing them in a MIDI roll.
@@TobyRyan Try noodling around with it wired up to scaler2 using the CHORD EXTENSIONS feature ;)
(go into settings and set chords to mute)
great for ripping out melodies and solos. Then can go in after and articulate the notes which you recorded out of scaler.
I have a hellraiser DLX and this VST. They are both amazing.
They really are some of the coolest sounding guitars out there for Metal.
I NEED THIS
YES
1:42 haha Monuments Animus solo . thats sick
YESSS!!
Lately I observe that competition of guitar samplers: whos lowest string is the lowest.
At first V-Metal was a thing I was using normally, but it was only a 6-string. Then some Ample guitar caught my interest with 7 strings. Then Shreddage Hydra upped that count to 8 (I even gave it an octave down). But hold your knickers, Ample is releasing a 9-string beast!
What's next, a 69-string?
Saved me 1300 from buying the real schecter 9 string lol, sounds kickass with fortin nameless suite.
Hey, so it’s possible to use it with just the DI signal and bypass all processing? Would really help me to know! Thanks.
Yeah you can
@@eliaskapravelos7171 Thanks!
We need more tutorial or tips to improve playing style when using Guitar VST using midi keyboard
After using this for a couple months, there is really no way to play these VST's live well, requires too much tweaking on different notes that can't be done in realtime, like adding strum noises, adjusting velocities etc
Need!
I wish to learn this 1:43
YES
why are you vibrato-ing your keyboard? does it include a feature I'm not aware of?
Great question! In the settings there are options for customizable pitch bend for octaves, that I use to simulate a ‘whammy bar’ style sound. Then for the Mod Wheel there are customizable manual and automatic vibrato options.
Looking for guitar vst to make some city morgue type beats and this is a good sound for it
I want a free alternative to this
same
UI Metal-GTX with sforzando. It doesn't sound as realistic, and it only goes to G2 before it starts messing with the sound of it (switches it to mute, hammer, slide etc instead of sustain).
Hmu I gotchu ;).
@@dertnap know of something?
@@lolkitchen2208 do u have Reddit ? Or anything I can dm u on
This vst need drag & drop midi notes and a way more presets!!!!
0:39 Exactly how did you do that D# bend? :D
Nothing too fancy. The D# trick is triggered with velocity, so at the hardest velocity tap of a key, it changes the sample to the sick bend you hear. Makes for a great realistic character. There is also the touch strip on the far left of the keyboard. Its configured to be a pitch bend and mod wheel. The pitch bend and mod wheel on this VST bends and also has an auto-vibrato which can add a little extra character.
D#? that's an Eb my guy
@@dominiccampbell7227 Sam shit, different name. :)
what the drum vst and bass vst you use?
is it also come from Ample Hellrazer VST?
Ooo, excellent question! Those drums are Steven Slate Drums. That’s a drum plug-in designed for realistic sounding drums and it’s my personal fave.
1. You mentioned the Octaves of the HR. What is the Eclipse missing vs the Hellraizer.
2. Is the Riff generator on the Eclipse the exact same as the Hellraiser with the exception that the Eclipse has the Strummer?
I've been trying to find a good comparison between the two, but it's been difficult.
Hey Seth, great questions!
1.) The difference between them is tone, Strummer, and range: 18 extra playable notes across the keyboard.
Eclipse All Keys: F#-1 to B6
Hellrazer All Keys: D#-2 to B6
2.) That is correct. They both have the same Riffer, Tab, amps, cabs, and mixing effects.
Hellrazer does not have Strummer. Aside from range, tone, that’s the one feature I can find that is different.
3.) to give an idea tonally:
Eclipse has presets that are more in line with artists like: Rammstein, Limp Bizkit, Pantera, and more.
Hellrazer has presets in line with artists like: Silverstein, Slip Knot, Periphery, and more.
Both are incredible guitars. From my experience, they keep getting better with each new update.
I need to make vid on Eclipse, it’s awesome in its own way .
@@TobyRyan I found that Eclipse is: C, G, C, F, A, D.
Hellrazer is C#, F#, B, E, A, D, G, B, E
Huge difference in range. No idea still on the Riff Generator differences. I suppose it doesn't matter though for me at least. I purchased Hellrazer. The range difference is the sell.
excellent video man, how easy is it to mute palm on this new guitar playing on the keyboard ?? it's possible ?
Yes. Palm Muting is very easy as it’s an articulation switch triggered by a key on the midi keyboard. It can do sustain, natural harmonics, palm mute, Slide in, Legato Slide, hammer on and pull off, and tap. It makes it convenient to press or program in any of those articulations on the fly or in a midi roll, and even the riffer feature.
@@TobyRyan great man, thank you very much, this hellrazer guitar is definitely superior to shreddage 3 and heavier 7 string according to you?
I can’t speak on Shreddage 3 specifically as I’ve not used that particular instrument. I have, however, used and own plenty of Kontakt based guitar libraries and they’re all really good. Kontakt based guitars are generally easier to jump in a use, and are focused on specific styles of performance like Riffing, or strumming and perform those specific areas really well. Ample Sounds offerings are a little more advanced, in terms of having articulations, adjustable nuances, and customization of every aspect which needs to be written in or performed manually which can be overwhelming at first because it can do so much. I would definitely download the free version of their electric guitar offerings and try it out to see if it’s something you enjoy writing with.
@@TobyRyan thanks for your answer, you know what happens, is that the eclipse metal 2 no matter how much I play on my keyboard the palm mutes do not sound with enough "resonance" for the style I want metal type, instead the heavier 7 strings guitar the palm mutes They sound crisp and with good resonance, so I hope the new Hellrazer 3 has that resonance I need, can you make a video playing palm mutes with your Hellrazer 3 friend?
Con esa guitarra hicieron la canción del doom eternal?
Haha I wish! I’d imagine this guitar can handle many tones in that style.
I downloaded a crack but it doesn't work for me, it asks me for a validation code, how can I do to obtain it?
How exactly do you pitch bend in metal eclipse l?
How can change string if I want to play solo in a specific string? Thx
what kind of keyboard is that? i am having trouble with pitch bends idk if its my mod wheel or my daw setting that's causing it. I contacted ample's technical support to see if they can figure it out but I'll have to wait for a response. Having the same trouble with shreddage modulation pitch bend wheel too. the pitch bends sound glitchy
Hello! In the video, I’m using a Komplete Kontrol S49 MK1. It’s a touch strip style mod wheel. I also use the KK A25 which has a physical mod wheel. Both have smooth bends. If it’s both instruments, in your DAW you might try using automation to see how it sounds. That could help troubleshoot if it’s your physical hardware or the virtual instruments.
DO i need Anything extra to run this VST ( other than my DAW of course). I dont need Kontact or anything?
Great question! And no you don’t need anything other than a DAW. This is its own dedicated plugin / VST. It does have a two part installer, one for the plugin and the second installer for the samples. Useful if you prefer installing the large volume of samples on a separate hard drive.
Conveniently it does come with a standalone app that can run the guitar, but I don’t use that since I run it in my DAW. You might check their support page to see which DAWs they support. Most common DAWs are supported.
@@TobyRyan thanks for the speedy response. ill be buying this and using it with Presonus studio one 3 pro
Can I double or triple tracks without phasing?
That’s a more complicated question to answer, because the answer can be yes, but also possibly no. In my experience, I have not run into the issue of unwanted phasing with these guitars. In the event that it does it’s an easy fix to adjust performance timing of midi notes and timing variability so that it blends better with stacked guitars. That can really make stacked guitars sound full and rich.
@@TobyRyan thanks for reply and your video :D
@@AzathothsAlarmClock that’s fair. in my experience, you could also just Mono the guitar, hardpan, duplicate track, hardpan second the opposite direction. Now the secret here is to shift your midi notes in the second guitar’s midi roll slightly from the other track so they don’t trigger at the exact same time. This increases the variability between the two. If you’re really lazy, you could even use a MIDI generator plugin with velocity and note variability to randomize each note slightly (also known as humanizing.) from the beat so you don’t have to shift by hand. Paired with the randomized round robins of this particular guitar, it makes for an incredibly flexible instrument. One of my favorite tricks for giving a little extra juice. Think of it like the live guitar trick where a mixing engineer will Melodyne a guitar after recording, then slightly shift notes of one guitar to the left or right of the beat, manually humanizing, in the event, they want a double but didn’t have the guitarist to record again. This trick works like a charm on vocals too and can be used on any VST guitar that you enjoy the sound of but might not crank dials exactly the way you think sounds best in your particular mix. This Hellraiser does have a double knob though which saves a ton of time and gets a great doubling sound. You’re right though, having a quick and easy way to hard pan for mixing does feel essential for saving time from doing it manually.
Hi guys, can some one can help me ? i buy this pluggin, my mac is big sur 11.4 and i dont no way its not reconozing the pluggin
Do you know of anything available to get that 90s industrial metal sound like Ministry/KMFDM/Rammstein, etc?
Shreddage jupiter or prominy v metal
Your voice is in a videogame called Warhammer 40k- dawn of war: Dark crusade?
Haha! No, not that I know of. Would be fun though! Warhammer is awesome. Is there a specific unit in-game or a character? Curious to hear the voice you're referring to.
@@TobyRyan srry my bad english. Is the voice of the tutorial. Im go to find a video and leave here the link xD
I added ample sound to Cakewalk when plugged guitar and this message pop up "error code 7; 14; plugin has no sound". Could someone please explain how to fix it?
can i use it as vst in fl studio?
I’m not as familiar with FL Studio, but I would imagine yes if it uses VST, and or AU. These are 64-bit only plugins, so if you’re running a 32-bit only OS or version of FL Studio, it won’t be compatible as 32-bit is not supported on Windows version of the plugin.
Ehh, i'd still like to use shreddage 3 hydra
Haven’t tried it. How is it?
can this guitar do chords well? I'm looking to make some metalcore type music, so I´m looking for a guitar that can give me some sick lows for breakdowns but also clean chords for the chorus, great video btw :)
That’s a really good question! Technically, the Hellrazer is designed for riffing and does not have the Chord/Strum feature, however, if you’re needing that the Ample Metal Eclipse does have the chord/strum feature and excels at that. I personally still use AMH to play power chords since it can do open and muted strings. The main tab is still versatile at going from manually played power chords and then jumping into a riff/melody. For some, it’s definitely more challenging to write in that way, but I’m hardcore like that and enjoy the process.
@@TobyRyan thanks for the reply man! i got the AME just this afternoon, but I can't seem to get that tone I'm looking for, would you ever consider doing a metalcore tutorial with the AME? Something like MIW, or AA, the old metalcore edgy kid days lmao
Is there a “follow host” button?
Is this free?
This instrument is not free. However, they do have a few free guitars over on Plugin Boutique, if you’re interested here’s a link to them. www.pluginboutique.com/manufacturers/213-Ample-Sound