There are some servers I think kAN even visited one once but it was pretty laggy but now with the splines it should be way better so maybe there will be more
kAN if you put the spline laying tool into "Circle" mode and set the radius to 0m, you get perfectly straight track. Two straight pieces won't "snap" to each other in "circle" mode (like when you place a patch after removing a section) but in those cases in you snap the two sections outside "circle" mode the track will be straight anyway. Couple that with the alternating left and right switches makes simply lovely shunting yards. Loving the video's so far though! Subscribed for RRO, stayed for everything else you do, keep up the awesome work!
I use Circle mode like that to measure out track splines to short lengths, just to avoid any incidents like how Kan found himself in at the start of the video. Lol It also helps with consistency when trying to line parallel track up for switches.
tbh I feel like it would make sense for there to be a setting where if you're playing multiplayer where you can decide whether you want everyone in your company to share money or for everyone to have an individual income per person.
2:20 Tip On Re-railing: You may have figured it out already, but it places whatever you're re-railing at the point your cross hair is looking at on the Tracks between the rail(that is aim your cross hair at the Sleepers between the rail). It attempts to center the car/loco/whatever on that spot you're looking at. If one end of the car/loco/whatever is going to collide with another on the track already, it will NOT place it. Just look further down the track away from the car/loco that's blocking it.
I agree with kAN here, the breaks on the carts should align… I’d love an unedited video of just shuting the carts around to put them in the right orientation, although I guess it would probably take like an hour and be absolutely useless x)
I'm mixed. Just as long as I have a brake handle facing outward on each end, I'm happy. It means I can set the brakes on both ends of the train then unhook, as opposed to having to to run a car length to set a brake handle. Otherwise, brake handle placement doesn't really matter to me. Having two handles next to one another back to back would actually be beneficial, since you could set both at the same time without having to run across two train cars. lol
As a former fireman on Primarily D&S No 473, I appreciate all the historical banter, :D cant wait to see what you guys do, My railroad looks like crap, but shes mine! As a question for Hyce: do we know if the K-28 class is gonna make it into the game? asking for...uh...a friend.
for the shunt yard, I personally would use the cross junctions to make a moderate middle section all parallel then attach them to the switches. that would also let you delete the curve section of the track without effecting the straight section
Ooh man I was just playing this before work today, now I get to watch a video while I'm on break :D 6:52 I had a bad derail right before I left the game this morning, and when I put them all back all the handbrakes were messed up and I could not deal with it so i spent the next 20 minutes fixing that lol
I´d love to see that as well, but since the game is gonna be only the "wild west" narrow gauge we might not see that. But from what I heard in the future there will be mod support so it will probably come at some point, but it wont be vanilla...
@@kuttispielt7801 I know I’m saying in the future when they have more options they can make more maps that could have separate train styles like American standard gauge and European standard gauge.
Also I really hope they add mod support, there's some narrow gauge trains, and other tracks I would love to add if the devs don't end up doing them in the future, there were some cool ones in trainz 2006 sim, I used to play that all the time back when games were still on cd lol
Double head the porter and the 'zuma till you can afford something big. Also, the Montezuma is 100% the cutest engine, although I like all of the old Baldwin's in the game.
Once again, I'd like to suggest a bit of story for the game. Get the railroad built up to a certain point, (say, once all industries have a track to them) you unlock a telegraph and message board at the Freight Depot. This tells you what materials are available and resources needed at each industry. Then a special delivery arrives at the freight depot: a fireless locomotive and stationary boiler. This unlocks NPCs to "automate" loading and unloading freight at the industries. You as the engineer have to establish an "Inbox" and "Outbox" siding, as well as where the fireless loco's boiler will live. But once this is in place, NPCs take over. Then the telegraph board changes. Instead of "84 logs and 53 cord wood at logging camp" it now says "9 cars of logs, 6 cars of cord wood". Now you drive trains, instead of cranking cranes! 😊
one thing to note is that i think a set of certain engines, like a group, would do great. Most railways sometimes gather the same type of engine in a group, much likely due to their mix-traffic capacities. maybe gathering 5 of the bestest engines would be great, but i don't know, i really don't know.
kAN discovering how splines work at 11:30 IIRC it's a 4th-order equation behind the mathematical scenes, that minimizes the energy in an elastic beam between the points with the given pinning angle options. Way back in the day, they used to be physically modeled by drafters with actual pins and thin balsa-like wood strips. They're super important in vector artwork, so "inking" tools are a great way to play around with splines and learn to intuit how they work and look.
Welcome to the C.R.A.P. Zooma, may your impatience not cause many accidents. (yes I will be characterizing the engines, Betsy's one of those tough grandmas)
I actually figured it was Central, Rio (Grande) and Pacific. I live in SE Colorado, along the BNSF mainline here, so a train line running from the midwest, going south to Texas and the Rio Grande, as well as west through the Rockies toward the PO isn't that uncommon.
I have an idea for a yard for train assembly So make a hill at the back, then push all the cars to the hill so they all hit eachother in the platform to assemble the train
I have tied a break, Yea, 2-3 free spins, and then a wall, and that break sets on the other side of that wall. No club, then your standing on the cross of the wheel and jumping/pushing.
aircraft lifespans are nuts. It's pretty much, if there's a use for it, they keep it flying. You talk about the 737's, but they are young. Douglas DC-3, first introduced in... 1936... are STILL being used by airlines today. HECK aircraft that were used during the DD invasion and Operation Market Garden are flying passengers and cargo. the Basler BT-67 is a refit DC-3 that are modernized with glass cockpits for arctic use. Russia's AN-2 was building 1947 and are still in use as well, they are the largest biplains. flying boats from ww2 the little Grumman G-44 Widgeon from 1940 are loved and used. 80 year old aircraft used for waterbombing, cargo, and even passanger service.
kAN. I knew it might sound strange, but are U somhow related to that @ExtraVOD Crypto youtube channel guy? It is hard to not notice similarity in excited voice tone of both of U guys.
Wait what 5 year cars that get stretched to 7-9 years? What sort of crippled cars do you have? I'm still driving my 1994 Mitsubishi Pajero which is still going strong, approaching 400'000kms, tows trailers, goes off road etc....
youre telling me rio grande is narrow gauge?! yeesh! perhaps its because ive watched too much british narrow gauge and am not used to the sheer size of american locomotives
I want to see a server filled with people both shunting and driving, working together to run the rail yards and make profit.
There are some servers I think kAN even visited one once but it was pretty laggy but now with the splines it should be way better so maybe there will be more
i want to crush worms at the heel of my boot and then shoot at them with my guN!N!N!N!N!Nn
yes
it would be amazing to do some prototypical operations in a server, especially switch ops with a list n all that
@@roguedragondraksis9114 dark ops goin dark 🕶️
"Welcome back to RRO, we're back.. [with explosions!]"
Kan in the first video: "I don't have to worry if the rails aren't perfect"
Kan in this video: "I went back and fixed the rails"
kAN if you put the spline laying tool into "Circle" mode and set the radius to 0m, you get perfectly straight track. Two straight pieces won't "snap" to each other in "circle" mode (like when you place a patch after removing a section) but in those cases in you snap the two sections outside "circle" mode the track will be straight anyway. Couple that with the alternating left and right switches makes simply lovely shunting yards. Loving the video's so far though! Subscribed for RRO, stayed for everything else you do, keep up the awesome work!
Is it now possible to build two switches in a "Z" track arrangement and have them actually line up?
I use Circle mode like that to measure out track splines to short lengths, just to avoid any incidents like how Kan found himself in at the start of the video. Lol
It also helps with consistency when trying to line parallel track up for switches.
tbh I feel like it would make sense for there to be a setting where if you're playing multiplayer where you can decide whether you want everyone in your company to share money or for everyone to have an individual income per person.
Sounds a little too much like COMMUNISM to me
Just add companys that act as tribes/guilds.
*Kan going between a man's legs*
Kan: "How are you for wood?"
I love that you're back, and with Hyce. Thank you for making such consistently great content.
Really enjoying this series, the combination of kAn practicality and Hyce's nerd knowledge comments is fun AND educating.
I feel completely betrayed...how in the world did you NOT name Montezuma - "REVENGE" - as part of the CRAP line? (hanging head in disappointment)
The number should have been number 2
Hyce: Explaining how brakes work
kAN: Sick parkour
2:20 Tip On Re-railing: You may have figured it out already, but it places whatever you're re-railing at the point your cross hair is looking at on the Tracks between the rail(that is aim your cross hair at the Sleepers between the rail). It attempts to center the car/loco/whatever on that spot you're looking at. If one end of the car/loco/whatever is going to collide with another on the track already, it will NOT place it. Just look further down the track away from the car/loco that's blocking it.
That number 1 is such a cool engine.
I know absolutely nothing about trains but i love hearing about them in these videos. Definitely got me to follow hyce and start learning
I agree with kAN here, the breaks on the carts should align…
I’d love an unedited video of just shuting the carts around to put them in the right orientation, although I guess it would probably take like an hour and be absolutely useless x)
I'm mixed. Just as long as I have a brake handle facing outward on each end, I'm happy. It means I can set the brakes on both ends of the train then unhook, as opposed to having to to run a car length to set a brake handle. Otherwise, brake handle placement doesn't really matter to me. Having two handles next to one another back to back would actually be beneficial, since you could set both at the same time without having to run across two train cars. lol
As a former fireman on Primarily D&S No 473, I appreciate all the historical banter, :D cant wait to see what you guys do, My railroad looks like crap, but shes mine! As a question for Hyce: do we know if the K-28 class is gonna make it into the game? asking for...uh...a friend.
for the shunt yard, I personally would use the cross junctions to make a moderate middle section all parallel then attach them to the switches. that would also let you delete the curve section of the track without effecting the straight section
Ooh man I was just playing this before work today, now I get to watch a video while I'm on break :D 6:52 I had a bad derail right before I left the game this morning, and when I put them all back all the handbrakes were messed up and I could not deal with it so i spent the next 20 minutes fixing that lol
"Central Rio And Pacific." "Or CRAP from short." Beautiful.
The brake is already on a fulcrum. Hand tight on the wheel is a very good set.
In the future you should make a crazy mountain track
Now all you need to do kan is buy a caboose to put at the end of every train. Realism stuffs.
In the future I would love to see European locomotives and full size track on more maps! But I can imagine that being laggy.
I´d love to see that as well, but since the game is gonna be only the "wild west" narrow gauge we might not see that. But from what I heard in the future there will be mod support so it will probably come at some point, but it wont be vanilla...
A mountain scenario in Germany would be cool - we still have narrow gauge steam locomotives running in the Harz
They said it’s hard to make a good game on everything and that’s why they focused on american steam 3ft gauge.
@@kuttispielt7801 I know I’m saying in the future when they have more options they can make more maps that could have separate train styles like American standard gauge and European standard gauge.
@@TotallyNotAFox I’ve never seen that before but that wood be amazing I can just imagine the weather to!
Also I really hope they add mod support, there's some narrow gauge trains, and other tracks I would love to add if the devs don't end up doing them in the future, there were some cool ones in trainz 2006 sim, I used to play that all the time back when games were still on cd lol
I'm so happy this series is back I love it
You guys missed a great chance to make the new engine C.R.A.P. No.2 😂
Double head the porter and the 'zuma till you can afford something big. Also, the Montezuma is 100% the cutest engine, although I like all of the old Baldwin's in the game.
this is honestly cute seeing the zooma at work "me here making the zooma pull 9 log flat cars and 2 greg flats up a 2% grade"
Wow, it's been a little while since you have played this
What I'd recommend doing with the logging camp, if the main line does start to clog up there, is make a passing siding around the loading tracks.
Once again, I'd like to suggest a bit of story for the game.
Get the railroad built up to a certain point, (say, once all industries have a track to them) you unlock a telegraph and message board at the Freight Depot. This tells you what materials are available and resources needed at each industry.
Then a special delivery arrives at the freight depot: a fireless locomotive and stationary boiler.
This unlocks NPCs to "automate" loading and unloading freight at the industries.
You as the engineer have to establish an "Inbox" and "Outbox" siding, as well as where the fireless loco's boiler will live. But once this is in place, NPCs take over.
Then the telegraph board changes. Instead of "84 logs and 53 cord wood at logging camp" it now says "9 cars of logs, 6 cars of cord wood".
Now you drive trains, instead of cranking cranes! 😊
one thing to note is that i think a set of certain engines, like a group, would do great.
Most railways sometimes gather the same type of engine in a group, much likely due to their mix-traffic capacities.
maybe gathering 5 of the bestest engines would be great, but i don't know, i really don't know.
Found your channel through this game, love to see it back after some updates!
Already loving this series and cant wait for more. Would like to see you stream this as well for the stuff in between episodes. : )
They need to do loading similar to how they do it in Mud Runners, where you can control the crane.
Just found this through dapper and i'm so happy just watching trains now.
Fun fact for making shuntyards. You can create bolt streight track by having a 0% turning radius in circle mode
Honestly need this game on console
Kannnnnn! wooooot! welcome back, happy days ahead in railroads i see with you8 and Hyce! get 'em running!
We used to call it pushing points with the 3 inch model rail road I used to volunteer with 😁
kAN discovering how splines work at 11:30
IIRC it's a 4th-order equation behind the mathematical scenes, that minimizes the energy in an elastic beam between the points with the given pinning angle options. Way back in the day, they used to be physically modeled by drafters with actual pins and thin balsa-like wood strips.
They're super important in vector artwork, so "inking" tools are a great way to play around with splines and learn to intuit how they work and look.
The CR&P's No. 1 locomotive looks really cute!
Love the videos, thanks for the amazing content.
Welcome to the C.R.A.P. Zooma, may your impatience not cause many accidents. (yes I will be characterizing the engines, Betsy's one of those tough grandmas)
The Montezuma is the basis of the engine character, Casey Junior from Walt Disney's "Dumbo".
Montezuma looks so much like the New Zealand Railways K class of 1877, except the K is a 2-4-2 built by Rogers rather than Baldwin.
I actually figured it was Central, Rio (Grande) and Pacific. I live in SE Colorado, along the BNSF mainline here, so a train line running from the midwest, going south to Texas and the Rio Grande, as well as west through the Rockies toward the PO isn't that uncommon.
really cool it's stronger
I have an idea! What if you had the lumber mill as your HQ all built up and the selling depot is just for sales and isn’t your main operation
I’m so hype for more railroads online!
How did you not call the Montezuma "Revenge"?
I want signs added because i build lines directly to the supply and demand. The sawmill has a line running to the logging camp and 5 rails running out
"I'm pretty sure the trains are supposed to be ON the rails" - Hyce, November, 2022. Also, can you name a engine Willy J? Don't ask why, just do it.
Bring back The Wrath of kAN! 😁
Kan we just got a new locomotive in RO! Called mosca and I can’t wait for the new video to come out keep working hard kan!
No way I swear it was like 5 minutes ago I watch the last one
I have an idea for a yard for train assembly
So make a hill at the back, then push all the cars to the hill so they all hit eachother in the platform to assemble the train
you could distinguish Betsy and Montezooma as "Little 1" and "Big 1"
You missed an opportunity here for sure, Revenge, as in Montezuma’s Revenge, would have been far more appropriate for the C.R.A.P.
Name Ideas: 1. Windy Woods Railroad 2. Pleasant View Railroad 3. Uncanny Valley Railroad
Cant wait for the next episode
I have tied a break, Yea, 2-3 free spins, and then a wall, and that break sets on the other side of that wall. No club, then your standing on the cross of the wheel and jumping/pushing.
More trains, more track ! I love it !
A porter2/betsy2 would be perfect to go from logging camp to sawmill.
At least it isn't Mudrunner levels of cranes. If you ever play that game, self loading with cranes is a pain. But a fun kind of pain.
There is a program that reads your save files, so you can change the names on engines and cars.
aircraft lifespans are nuts.
It's pretty much, if there's a use for it, they keep it flying. You talk about the 737's, but they are young.
Douglas DC-3, first introduced in... 1936... are STILL being used by airlines today. HECK aircraft that were used during the DD invasion and Operation Market Garden are flying passengers and cargo. the Basler BT-67 is a refit DC-3 that are modernized with glass cockpits for arctic use.
Russia's AN-2 was building 1947 and are still in use as well, they are the largest biplains.
flying boats from ww2 the little Grumman G-44 Widgeon from 1940 are loved and used. 80 year old aircraft used for waterbombing, cargo, and even passanger service.
yesss I love this game
i would love if the videos were longer like hyce's.
btw huge fan kAN
Love this series! (Btw 420,000 likes, nice)
now i really want a train workshop in the game so that we can change the trains looks later on
Good vid, keep it up!
i wonder if they get really hot except for winter which has to feel good
Your next buy should be a brake car for the back of the train.
Just saying you guys should have the handcar for track work
14:25 5 years of design life? Our VW Passat holds up 20 years now.
It’s a sad day when Betsy gets beaten in a tug of war. og Betsy will be missed
Love to play this game
-can't wait for the 75% discount at Steam :)
You needed someone just loading car on to logs and a train going back and forward like two set of cars. So it would be ready when the train comes back
I think being able to add NPCs for automating those tasks would be a big help.
here are the whistle signals:
3 whistles, backing up
1 whistle, stopping
2 whistles, going forward
I'm surprised this game is still alive honestly. I was there for the uh... Kerfuffle let's call it. Thought it was dead.
Can't wait for kAN to find out how to rotate switches ;)
well on the point on the number 1 now you got a porter 1 and a regular train 1
can we get any info on Canadian railways vs these in this era? very interested in this series but would love to know the equivalent in our country....
I feel the general jist of my idea for a name made it through, a witty acronym.
10:08 Betsy is Betsy
Hey kAN, what PC so you have?
betsy can just be one and then the montazoomba can be called onetazoomba when its called by number.
What would make this game more awesome and authentic would be if you could haul passengers and mail
This episode in a nutshell: "itty-bitty"
you need to build the firewood setup with cordwood.
but make it an entire engine shed complex.
Laughs in railroads offline
kAN. I knew it might sound strange, but are U somhow related to that @ExtraVOD Crypto youtube channel guy? It is hard to not notice similarity in excited voice tone of both of U guys.
I'm not sure I want to know whether or not they named their railroad knowing about what the acronym was.
Cars could definitely work for 50 years but would we want the same hardware for eons
yeah old track laying was kinda crap, cant wait for the update to fully release
feels like menus and stuff still needs qol improvements
not seeing Hyce's channel in the description like Kan said
Wait what 5 year cars that get stretched to 7-9 years? What sort of crippled cars do you have? I'm still driving my 1994 Mitsubishi Pajero which is still going strong, approaching 400'000kms, tows trailers, goes off road etc....
youre telling me rio grande is narrow gauge?! yeesh! perhaps its because ive watched too much british narrow gauge and am not used to the sheer size of american locomotives
ah i wanted it to be Southern Haravard International Trainlines.
Did I miss something wasn't Hyce a dev or did that stop being the case because wouldn't he know about the switches?