Scenes like those that happened in Bristol do not happen in a well governed country. The UK that existed up until twelve months ago is being slowly and stealthily replaced by something very sinister.
@@madmickey78 true but a staged event gets them more public backing for measures, they are making illegal activities/actions legal if state sponsored and the 🐑 will only realise at their slaughter
@W Churchill You'll never get through to this rabble. They have been brainwashed into thinking that trying to improve peoples' situations is authoritarian communism, and will do whatever mental gymnastics is necessary to make the pieces fit that preconceived notion.
How about this for a radical idea: GIVE PEOPLE THEIR LIBERTIES BACK and maybe there will be fewer protests against an increasingly authoritarian Government?
My guess is that what they want is MORE protests, which will become national riots... until it gets to the point where they can declare a national emergency.... then bring in the army. Order out of chaos.
My relationship towards the police has changed dramatically during this panicdemic, similar to my attitude towards the government My country has changed, for the worse, in such a short space of time, with no sign of hope that it will return to freedom any time soon
It's been gradually moving this way for a long time, the average person didnt see the effects of the changing nature of police training and policy until now.
They do not help themselves! They go in heavy-handed against old people and women, when they should be going in with shields and truncheons against these shitbags and the BLM mob!
@@crawford1083 yes. I like Hitchens but he failed to mention that if you protest peacefully you get jailed. If you smash up a city as did BLM then the police kneel to you and kiss your feet. So what are we to do?
@Simon Goodwind You're just describing past events. None of which impacted everyday life as now. Don't write off a change in direction just yet. The Bristol city police force was over run after maybe 100 youths decided to start breaking things. If the government try to bring about another lockdown in September after getting the population to believe in the vaccine dream. Time could be up.
The police didn't entirely behave properly on Saturday. I was there early on by which time only 100-200 people had assembled at the northern end of Hyde Park. As soon as Piers Corbyn started to speak they started to draw closer and I brought out a placard that I had made and within two or three minutes two police officers started harassing me demanding that I "go home"! I refused, especially as they weren't making anyone else go. So they arrested me and I spent the rest of the day at Walworth police station, including 2 hours in a cell. Aged 74, and a law-abiding citizen all my life, this was the first time I had ever been arrested. So please don't think the police were on their best behaviour. At that early time in the demonstration they only seemed to be targeting the few people with banners etc, or slogans on their clothing - easy targets. I'll never trust the police nor now support an individual officer if I ever see one being attacked. They're on their own as far as I am concerned.
@Ned Simlish oh it's staged alright. 'Antifa' are on the pay bill. Amazing how selective the police can be when deciding to either brutally oppress a protest or decide to stand back and let them burn it down. Pantomime.
100% Last night was full of gladio style agent provocateurs designed to discredit the peaceful protests that happened worldwide. The police left un-MOT'd squad cars and riot vans unattended so as to be burnt out by the bought-and-paid for, Open Democracy Antifa pro rioters.
@Ned Simlish NO it’s more than likely true as the vehicles destroyed that I could see number plates for were not even MOT Ed according to DVLA last night
@Colin Beever Historically no peaceful, quite protest changed anything. So slavery, human rights, living wage... all those things happend because of loud annoying protests. Thats now illegal. I have read the bill, it grants the police discretion to imprison or worse, those who they deem to be disruptive or offensive, you cant even offend or appose a police officers tyrannical behaviour, that's now considered an offense and criminal. In other words, obey us without question and opposition or else well lock you up. Enjoy.
@Colin Beever Yes. But you will also find the police go undercover and cause and encourage most of the violence Afeni shakur took the police to court and it was proven the police planned and executed all the terrorist attacks during the time of the black Panthers. They even planned to bomb a mall.... So the police are what this subject is really all about. Their time will come, not long now.
@Colin Beever By the sounds of your replies you clearly believe in oppression and authoritarian ideologies. Well, you've now seen where those ideologies ultimatley lead and what they insight. Your part of a dying breed of idealists that built this society and its authoritarian infrastructure of which your now witnessing the collapse of. The longer they hold onto power the harder the fall. But cowards never let go of power, out of fear, and so the inevitable collapse is happening and worsening all around us. Enjoy. 🙏
@@triodehexode Calling people names is a bit school playground for me, if u live in the uk and love your country its time to wake up and smell the tyranny
@@anniemay937 I am not calling names am stating a fact. The police are protecting the nation from a minority of deluded covid deniers who selfishly put others at risk. I am beginning to wonder if Rupert Murdoch is employing his low brow journalists to post idiotic inflammatory statements in order to publicise his failing Talk Radio.
@@triodehexode a as deluded as you who has a entire history of medical knowledge before them, then ignore the huge holes in the Covid narrative you can drive a bus through. As an analyst by profession that can pin point spin, contradictory statements and hyperbole a mile away I find it’s scary people like you listen to government like gospel on this or look at a statistic without questioning what actual lies behind it and what it made up of, yet doubt their announcements any other times outside Covid.
The right to protest is a basic human right in this country , but the Bristol riots, BLM riots and Extinction Rebellion blocking all access over the river in London or digging up a lawn are not acceptable to the majority and often put the general public (And majority) against their particular cause. Allowing people to do what they want to get what they want is not an answer. The British have a right to protest , but it must be done in a way that is considerate to others who may disagree or you are just forcing your views on everyone else and calling them wrong. Rarely is anyone 100% right, there are normally 2 sides to the coin.
@@2002daverj if vaccination and lockdowns work so well, why is Boris prepping us to forget freedom because a third wave is on the way. Even Peter and Julia acknowledge they don't need the jab, they just want all this to be over.
@@tarqinquentinsson-obviousl957 Once again, by their own admission, they had the jab in order to 'get back to normal'. Peter, apparently, has relatives abroad and wishes to travel, while Julia feels it her civic duty.
Does real crime not exist anymore only the cops seem far more bothered about what someone posts on twitter or protesting for their rights than going after real hardened criminals.
Apparently they’ve also got so many Police with nothing else better to do they can afford to pay undercover ones to sit in pubs like the Stasi eavesdropping on members of the public.
The vehicles destroyed were not even MOT, ed I checked registration on DVLA website last night ,strange that police park unregistered vehicles on road outside police station (an illegal act )then these same vehicles get burned
@@samengland2440 love it when idiots say 'police state'... Hilarious! You've not a clue on how lenient and democratic our thin Blue Line is... Not a fucking clue.
These two clowns support your inalienable rights to be completely abrogated and if you dare stand up for them, your rights, then you'll be the one vilified. This love affliction with those who are simply following orders, who are antithetical of the law itself in lieu of a political rule has been well an truly tried and tested .... it's always failed miserably with the cost to life being staggering.
Honestly if riots started in every town and city across the country I would not condemn or criticise them. People have every right to considering what parliment have done to them over the past 12 months. Tyranny is not something to accept.
Perhaps he’s not too keen on an “Antifa” “Burn Loot Murder” “Extinction Rebellion” hard left type revolution? In these points he carries the country, you fool.
john corydon ''Peter will only be getting angrier as other people show the courage to continue say no. It already shines through'' Precisely, Peter, that's why he has reigned on Talkradio whilst other genuine dissenting voices have been deemed persona non grata. Peter(I'll never give up) Hitchens is a chameleon of the highest order.
@@Ghs--173 Nah, he's just a narcissist. He doesn't actually care about anything except his "intellectual celebrity" status and his constantly-maintained position as "the guy who is right when everyone else is wrong." He is exactly like his brother, and I'm sure their father was the same.
@@Margatroid ''', he's just a narcissist. He doesn't actually care about anything except his "intellectual celebrity" status and his constantly-maintained position as "the guy who is right when everyone else is wrong." That's as succinct and accurate as it gets, Maratroid.
Why didn't you comment on the entirely peaceful and respectful march for four hours in London, upward of eighty thousand Peter? I read that you said governments laugh and felt that to be a shame as noone out on Saturday was doing anything more hopeful than standing shoulder to shoulder, feeling the freeing pleasure of being wiith fellow citizens, sometimes hugging, even the kissing of relieved looking bus drivers who turned their engines off and hooted loud. Isn't that worth it, just the energy such a gathering brings? Especially a peaceful one
When did you last see a policeman on foot patrol in your local high street? When did you last hear/see an anonymous deafening screaming police car race past you? Contrast and compare.
Hitchens - "if people behave themselves there's no need for a strong state." China - hold my beer Rest of the world governments - ooh, look at China we fancy some of that.
That's the problem with Hitchens, he has no practical ideas on how to resist this. He is not too fond of protests and has no qualms about the vaccine. His idea of demonstrating dissatisfaction is to write to your MP. He is under some strange notion that MPs are influenced in anyway with correspondence from their constituents.
@@Gio-jv7nd He also never addresses the fact the world is made up of 49 Nations and 51 Corporate states - It's corporations that are running the show and until that balance tips the other way, All nations and the people who reside in them are in essence irrelevant - it's obvious the whole system is corrupt so even if every person wrote to their MP it would have zero effect because we are all still dictated to by unelected, unnacountable corporations whom hold the majority of power
Peter came across like a coward. The sort of man that , had he lived in that period; thought he could stop the Nazis by writing articles for his paper; s as long as you didn’t protest or physical fight back. And no doubt will continue to believe that until he has either sold us or sold himself and is on a freight train to a camp.
I take his comment in light of his books, were he describes the general decline of education and morality in this country. I hope it's still true that most people are civil because they want to be, not because they are frightened of the police. But I do think adults are increasingly juvenile.
More interesting is that an image of an abandoned and attacked police car left damaged and with grafitti on it shows the registration number is WX17 FHR. When this number plate is anlaysed it reveals the car has no MOT. It t ran out last January. So, how did it get into the position? The car was not road legal. Also, the logic is lacking in that a violent protest happened to protest about proposed restrictions to protest. How would this help the cause? One wonders if some agent provocateurs were not out and about encouraging violence?
Is our Government not Her Majesties Government? I see nothing wrong MP's sitting in front of the Union flag. The problem I see is a total lack of respect for the union flag from the BBC.
David Foord "People shouldn't be allowed to fake patriotism". Perfect, Peter.'' ' 'Fake patriotism'' from a first class chameleon who runs with the hares and hunts with the hounds. This from a man who propagates that what is transpiring is a culmination of gov. incompetence. This from a man first in line to participate in the vaccination programme, an integral component in the formulation of a Totalitarian Technocratic State under the guise of a permanent. health crisis. This from a man whose only advice is to complain to one's MP, everyone of whom not only know exactly what is occurring, but are totally complicit in a criminal enterprise. This man is a charlatan personified who has zero credibility.
@Colin Beever a quite subdued protest where nobody raises their voices, nobody offends anybody, not too many people allowed to show up.... what fucking planet do you live on bozo.
Unless you get public numbers it will have the opposite effect with public approval. Democracy is based on mass populous if you don't have the masses its against the masses the media play on this exact this with gov to get bills passed.
@@nickroy997 and a police state relies on docile complicity and lackadaisical effort because you don’t want to rock the boat by a major portion of the population. Then complain after the fact to your children maybe you could have done something but it’s too late now. Always remember that the Nazis were elected, it wasn’t a coup, and it only took at their height 35% of the vote.
Indeed, JHB closed down her interview today with Laurence Fox when he mentioned the perfectly normal and sane human activity of having Easter lunch with family and a nervous Ian Collins shut down the interview with Conservative Woman editor Laura Perrins, she is extremely critical and speaks her mind about the government particularly Johnson.
just nicked this from another commenter.... Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him, better take a closer look at the American Indian. Henry Ford.
It doesn't help that the MSM are dishonest about the scale be of these protests, especially the BBC who report a few hundred. It's called sweeping it under the carpet, so nobody pays it any attention.
The left and right should come together against these measures. Nobody is breaking the law by being annoying or loud, otherwise half the politicians in parliament would be in for life.
Mr hitchens who i respect seems to still retain a dislike of our flag? Or at least it appears so. The govt has every right to have a union jack on show.
He views them as false patriots which is his right. He is also correct. Do you really think this ‘heir to blairism’ party give a rats ass about the UK? Johnson’s predecessors handed over our key state infrastructure projects to the Chinese communist party! and Johnson had to be dragged under the threat of back bench mutiny to change course, which he still hasn’t, fully. The “Conservative” party is a party of naive neoliberal pimps and they treat this country as an indentured prostitute, to be hired out to the highest bidder.
Did Peter just say if enough people mobilize to make their voice heard policy change can happen, 6:29 and then immediately after say protests don't have any affect? did I miss something? 9:21
@@peterhitchens4240 I made? you're not Peter Hitchens, you only have 76 subscribers and are following Owen Jones, neither of which is even remotely plausible, were Mr Hitchens to have a channel, but lets pretend for the sake of argument that you are, I agree that a clear distinction was made, I am questioning is there a clear distinction between street protest and political involvement of civil society, assuming a protest remains civil?
@@peterhitchens4240 - I miss your brother. I often wonder what wise words he would have for the strange turn events have taken in the last couple of years.
Yet again, while talking tough Peter Hitchens reveals himself to be profoundly ineffectual. In the face of increasing authoritarianism it would seem that people are left with the choice to either a) engage in civilised debate and then basically sit at home and do nothing while further draconian laws are introduced or b) engage in protest (note, not violence) and make some noise, which may not actually immediately succeed but at least free men are doing something / putting up a fight. What, precisely has the gentleman's debating club actually achieved ? Has it stopped war or the erosion of civil liberties ? Have liberties ever been won without a struggle ?
@@johnrobinson2234 I’m not sure what you mean by he sold out and as for him having the vaccine it’s got nothing to do with anyone else . He made his decision and I respect Peter !!
Force is the ultimate authority. When the people fears government there is tyranny. When the government fears the people there is liberty. Those who condemn violence but ignore how freedom was won in these lands do not deserve it.
@@ishmaelforester9825 Whether something is "okay" or not doesn't factor into it. If you can force me to do it and I cannot stop you, what's going to happen? I'm going to be licking boots or sweeping your doorstep. Incidentally, you might want to think about why governments are always so desperate to be the only ones holding the guns.
The vast majority of that ‘crowd’ have neither lived in a state controlled world. It would be an easy task for them to ask any one who lived in a communist controlled European bloc what it is like to live in a police state wether it be communist or not. Nor have the vast majority lived in a segregated environment such as some US states or South Africa. The majority have not lived in a world where mummy and daddy could not send you to Uni or were so hard up as there was no child benefit for each child you had, voluntarily or not etc etc.
Peter you avoid the point on the Union Flag/ Union Jack... the British Broadcasting Corporation News readers laughed at this country’s symbol .. people of this country are offended by those who see themselves as Europeans not British .. we are proud of this country. I doubt you are
Peter is continuing the dive into being nothing but an irrelevance since he decided to take the mark of the beast and completely destroy any vestiges that he is somehow a sane voice in all this.
Absolutely agree, he is part of the 'mail' msm and their agenda is to lie and confuse you by one day publishing real, the next day fake, well like all msm nowadays
How else can people make their views heard , writing to MP,s is a total waste of time, they don't care. Demonstrating may be pointless but with a government and media who hate the people, what else is left.
Let's get this into proportion, Bristol is student town filled with students from all over the country and other countries. The majority of people in that protest were of student age infiltrated by blm anarchist. They torch and destroy property whilst the police stand back and watch it happen. Compare this to the peaceful anti lockdown protests in London and Manchester attended by thousands of people from different backgrounds and ages young and old and the police make multiple arrest backed up by TSG with battens cracking skulls. Two tier policing at it's best. May be we should be looking at who is giving out the orders like the mayor's of these cities?
One of the reasons why, in 1950s, the police could effectively police the streets ..is, in my opinion, directly related to: 1. Respect 2. Poverty and disenfranchised people who are hooked on social media. The idea of silicon Valley usurping and using huge power politically has driven this debarcle
Just to point out as an Ex Police Officer . The demands on the Police generally were much much lower in the 1950s than they are now . Demand has increased at a much bigger rate since than the resources available to the Police to deal with it and spectacularly so ! The gap has without doubt increased dramatically. The analogy Peter draws between the two eras is highly dubious to say the least. It has also been known for a very long time indeed that whilst an individual Bobby on the Beat may ( ? ) prevent crime they will have to walk the beat for a very long time indeed to for example catch a burglar in the process of burgling a house ( statistically about 26 years of walking the beat every day until it happens as I recall ). So then not then necessarily an efficient way of using resources. Therein also lies the need for Detectives . So again , be careful of the analogies drawn.
The right to protest doesn't include the right to disrupt the lives of others who may or not disagree. People who are just out for trouble need to be sorted out. Anarchists are like babies that will bite the hand that feeds them
At what point is it acceptable for protesters to get heated or even serious is my question? How many regimes around the world have our government condemned when their people have protested on mass? Inevitably if the state wants to rule like a dictatorship then it will have consequences and if it continues at this trajectory riots will happen
Scenes like those that happened in Bristol do not happen in a well governed country. The UK that existed up until twelve months ago is being slowly and stealthily replaced by something very sinister.
That bill will be passed because of this action, some the vehicles destroyed didn’t even have an MOT which points to this being a staged event
@@Ultronmclovin that bill was always gonna be passed 🤷♂️
@@madmickey78 true but a staged event gets them more public backing for measures, they are making illegal activities/actions legal if state sponsored and the 🐑 will only realise at their slaughter
@@Ultronmclovin once you see the process is rigged you can really plot where this is going.
@W Churchill You'll never get through to this rabble. They have been brainwashed into thinking that trying to improve peoples' situations is authoritarian communism, and will do whatever mental gymnastics is necessary to make the pieces fit that preconceived notion.
How about this for a radical idea: GIVE PEOPLE THEIR LIBERTIES BACK and maybe there will be fewer protests against an increasingly authoritarian Government?
..have they ever given back anything they have stolen ?? !!
@@jz295491 You have to go back to postwar rationing to find an example.
@W Churchill You almost sound like you'd rather have Corbyn in office.
No Authoritarian has ever handed back people the rights they gave up. Also rights are never gained by asking. You only gain permissions by asking.
My guess is that what they want is MORE protests, which will become national riots... until it gets to the point where they can declare a national emergency.... then bring in the army. Order out of chaos.
My relationship towards the police has changed dramatically during this panicdemic, similar to my attitude towards the government
My country has changed, for the worse, in such a short space of time, with no sign of hope that it will return to freedom any time soon
It's embarrassing. The protests will get worse
I feel the same. It's going to properly end in tears. It will be Mr and Mrs onions who will be on the streets protesting
I will not be jumping to the defence of police that have spent the last year terrorising the average citizen.
It's been gradually moving this way for a long time, the average person didnt see the effects of the changing nature of police training and policy until now.
@@edgarfriendly5321 Same
I deplore violence but this was inevitable considering how badly the police have behaved over the last 12 months
They do not help themselves! They go in heavy-handed against old people and women, when they should be going in with shields and truncheons against these shitbags and the BLM mob!
@@crawford1083 I can't disagree with that
Totally agree
To blame the police for the action of these scumbags is perverse. Shame on you
@@crawford1083 yes. I like Hitchens but he failed to mention that if you protest peacefully you get jailed. If you smash up a city as did BLM then the police kneel to you and kiss your feet. So what are we to do?
the police should deal with real crime, not lockdown breaches or hate speech.
Embarrassing police farce
@@samengland2440 they've turned into soyboys on patrol.
They dont if its against whiteys its BLM taskforce now
Disband the cup of tea squad
They aren't trained to deal with real crime though. They are trained to monitor social media and occasionally act as fine vendors.
FFS. If this is the mainstream defence against complete totalitarian control then we are FUCKED.
The French and Russian revolutions show that the people are never fucked
talkRADIO have hit a brick wall their now going backwards in decline
@Simon Goodwind when you can't put food in your belly. you don't need funding.
@Simon Goodwind You're just describing past events. None of which impacted everyday life as now. Don't write off a change in direction just yet. The Bristol city police force was over run after maybe 100 youths decided to start breaking things. If the government try to bring about another lockdown in September after getting the population to believe in the vaccine dream. Time could be up.
@Simon Goodwind This time it's not just the lefties and minorities who are angry.
The police didn't entirely behave properly on Saturday. I was there early on by which time only 100-200 people had assembled at the northern end of Hyde Park. As soon as Piers Corbyn started to speak they started to draw closer and I brought out a placard that I had made and within two or three minutes two police officers started harassing me demanding that I "go home"! I refused, especially as they weren't making anyone else go. So they arrested me and I spent the rest of the day at Walworth police station, including 2 hours in a cell. Aged 74, and a law-abiding citizen all my life, this was the first time I had ever been arrested. So please don't think the police were on their best behaviour. At that early time in the demonstration they only seemed to be targeting the few people with banners etc, or slogans on their clothing - easy targets. I'll never trust the police nor now support an individual officer if I ever see one being attacked. They're on their own as far as I am concerned.
And I bet not one media outlet will bother to interview you. Doesn’t fit their narrative; specially the so called people’s broadcaster, the BBC.
Respect to you sir. I have seen the inside of too many police cells for my stance on cannabis and know how horrible it is.
Hollywood would be proud about the staged bristol protest
Agree
@Ned Simlish oh it's staged alright. 'Antifa' are on the pay bill.
Amazing how selective the police can be when deciding to either brutally oppress a protest or decide to stand back and let them burn it down.
Pantomime.
100% Last night was full of gladio style agent provocateurs designed to discredit the peaceful protests that happened worldwide.
The police left un-MOT'd squad cars and riot vans unattended so as to be burnt out by the bought-and-paid for, Open Democracy Antifa pro rioters.
@Ned Simlish You're fucking 77th if you think last night was a grassroots protest. Fucking gladio written all over it.
@Ned Simlish NO it’s more than likely true as the vehicles destroyed that I could see number plates for were not even MOT Ed according to DVLA last night
Stupid, yes, inevitable, probably. Remove people's right to protest and it gets a bit iffy, doesn't it.
@Colin Beever Historically no peaceful, quite protest changed anything.
So slavery, human rights, living wage... all those things happend because of loud annoying protests.
Thats now illegal.
I have read the bill, it grants the police discretion to imprison or worse, those who they deem to be disruptive or offensive, you cant even offend or appose a police officers tyrannical behaviour, that's now considered an offense and criminal.
In other words, obey us without question and opposition or else well lock you up.
Enjoy.
@Colin Beever Yes. But you will also find the police go undercover and cause and encourage most of the violence
Afeni shakur took the police to court and it was proven the police planned and executed all the terrorist attacks during the time of the black Panthers. They even planned to bomb a mall....
So the police are what this subject is really all about. Their time will come, not long now.
@Colin Beever Absolutely. But its happening global. This isnt about nations anymore as much as it's no longer about individuals...
@Colin Beever By the sounds of your replies you clearly believe in oppression and authoritarian ideologies.
Well, you've now seen where those ideologies ultimatley lead and what they insight.
Your part of a dying breed of idealists that built this society and its authoritarian infrastructure of which your now witnessing the collapse of. The longer they hold onto power the harder the fall. But cowards never let go of power, out of fear, and so the inevitable collapse is happening and worsening all around us.
Enjoy. 🙏
@Colin Beever they are intel projects. It's just nonsense. We see through it like a crystal pane of glass
what the Police's new duties include - raiding gyms hairdressers and standing around in parks trying to catch people out
Hear hear to protect the public from talk radio tin hat brigade loons.
@@triodehexode Calling people names is a bit school playground for me, if u live in the uk and love your country its time to wake up and smell the tyranny
Lurking around the crumpets on ASDA.
@@anniemay937 I am not calling names am stating a fact. The police are protecting the nation from a minority of deluded covid deniers who selfishly put others at risk. I am beginning to wonder if Rupert Murdoch is employing his low brow journalists to post idiotic inflammatory statements in order to publicise his failing Talk Radio.
@@triodehexode a as deluded as you who has a entire history of medical knowledge before them, then ignore the huge holes in the Covid narrative you can drive a bus through. As an analyst by profession that can pin point spin, contradictory statements and hyperbole a mile away I find it’s scary people like you listen to government like gospel on this or look at a statistic without questioning what actual lies behind it and what it made up of, yet doubt their announcements any other times outside Covid.
Anti-protest bill: Freedom dies in silence
These are the most draconian restrictions we have seen on protests for decades.
Now that it's lefties complaining, Hitchens doesn't like it
They should all be stopped a load of soap dodging druggies stinking the place out
Draconian HA HA you lot are a joke
The right to protest is a basic human right in this country , but the Bristol riots, BLM riots and Extinction Rebellion blocking all access over the river in London or digging up a lawn are not acceptable to the majority and often put the general public (And majority) against their particular cause. Allowing people to do what they want to get what they want is not an answer. The British have a right to protest , but it must be done in a way that is considerate to others who may disagree or you are just forcing your views on everyone else and calling them wrong. Rarely is anyone 100% right, there are normally 2 sides to the coin.
The powers that be did not laugh at the poll-tax riots.
The fastest way to lose our liberty is to have the jab when you know, medically, it's pointless. Like Peter and Julia
UK deaths today 17. France and Italy about 350 each. Do the maths before spreading more misinformation
@@2002daverj if vaccination and lockdowns work so well, why is Boris prepping us to forget freedom because a third wave is on the way. Even Peter and Julia acknowledge they don't need the jab, they just want all this to be over.
@@carmengb6476 Yes, Peter and Julia with a combined total of... ZERO years medical school...
@@tarqinquentinsson-obviousl957 Once again, by their own admission, they had the jab in order to 'get back to normal'. Peter, apparently, has relatives abroad and wishes to travel, while Julia feels it her civic duty.
@@carmengb6476 and how exactly does that add credence to the idea that they should be listened to?
Does real crime not exist anymore only the cops seem far more bothered about what someone posts on twitter or protesting for their rights than going after real hardened criminals.
Like flu, crime has disappeared🤔
Best time to do armed robbery at bank ever ,sit on park benches with more than 2 people, your screwed .
Apparently they’ve also got so many Police with nothing else better to do they can afford to pay undercover ones to sit in pubs like the Stasi eavesdropping on members of the public.
@@fridgehorse Is that really going on? Creepy.
@@Margatroid Internet search using words like: under cover police pubs & UK, there’ll news articles on it.
Imagine fighting for your freedoms and liberties to then be the one demonised, but not those enforcing the tyranny, Hitchens has lost all credibility.
They arrested 7 in Bristol and 36 in London anti-lockdown... hmmmm
The vehicles destroyed were not even MOT, ed I checked registration on DVLA website last night ,strange that police park unregistered vehicles on road outside police station (an illegal act )then these same vehicles get burned
They’re probably looking over all the footage to identify more though, bit hard to do on the spot arrests when someone’s trying to set fire to you
@@Ultronmclovin planted there ready for the paid demonstrators to attack....... the plan is coming along a treat ..
@@Ultronmclovin police vehicles
Are not required to have an MOT. I think you need to understand exemptions from an MOT.
@@michaelforster5106 THEY HAVE TO BE ROAD LEGAL IF ON ROAD , There are no exemptions except royal household
It's the government and Police's own fault. Just useless
ha ha saysa Labour voter You can smell the scumbags
@@millwallholdings u southern weirdo, enjoy your depressing little police state
@@samengland2440 love it when idiots say 'police state'... Hilarious! You've not a clue on how lenient and democratic our thin Blue Line is... Not a fucking clue.
they r absolutely disgusting !! ..they deserve to be demolished !
@@granty1954 commie
They are to busy patrolling the tweets than the streets
Very clever.
These two clowns support your inalienable rights to be completely abrogated and if you dare stand up for them, your rights, then you'll be the one vilified. This love affliction with those who are simply following orders, who are antithetical of the law itself in lieu of a political rule has been well an truly tried and tested .... it's always failed miserably with the cost to life being staggering.
Police also used to investigate actual crime, and they don't seem to do that anymore either.
8:00 And what about the police, when they "don't behave themselves"?
It’s just another manic Monday. Wish it was Sunday. Or 2 years ago when we had our freedom
When you think about , most songs remind you of the covid , just listen to some of the verses , strange ????
I bet there is a car number plate somewhere ,COV ID !!!
"When everybody is somebody, nobody is anybody..."
Honestly if riots started in every town and city across the country I would not condemn or criticise them. People have every right to considering what parliment have done to them over the past 12 months. Tyranny is not something to accept.
The bbc never accepted brexit thats what the flag thing was about.
British living in Sweden. Ous country is starting to look like Burma on TV. Sweden still 0 days of lockdown.
Peter Hitchens is very keen on revolution - provided he only has to talk about it and not actually take part
Yes, quite. He's something of a disappointment. He waved the white flag, him and lord Sumption both sold out.
I await you to lead it from your basement 🤦♂️😂😂😂
Perhaps he’s not too keen on an “Antifa” “Burn Loot Murder” “Extinction Rebellion” hard left type revolution? In these points he carries the country, you fool.
Like most people who comment on here.
Alan Pearson, I completely agree. No real use at all, once a situation is at the stage where writing to local MPs isn't enough.
Peter will only be getting angrier as other people show the courage to continue say no. It already shines through.
john corydon ''Peter will only be getting angrier as other people show the courage to continue say no. It already shines through''
Precisely, Peter, that's why he has reigned on Talkradio whilst other genuine dissenting voices have been deemed persona non grata. Peter(I'll never give up) Hitchens is a chameleon of the highest order.
@@Ghs--173 Nah, he's just a narcissist. He doesn't actually care about anything except his "intellectual celebrity" status and his constantly-maintained position as "the guy who is right when everyone else is wrong." He is exactly like his brother, and I'm sure their father was the same.
@@Margatroid
''', he's just a narcissist. He doesn't actually care about anything except his "intellectual celebrity" status and his constantly-maintained position as "the guy who is right when everyone else is wrong."
That's as succinct and accurate as it gets, Maratroid.
@@Margatroid 💯
Why didn't you comment on the entirely peaceful and respectful march for four hours in London, upward of eighty thousand Peter? I read that you said governments laugh and felt that to be a shame as noone out on Saturday was doing anything more hopeful than standing shoulder to shoulder, feeling the freeing pleasure of being wiith fellow citizens, sometimes hugging, even the kissing of relieved looking bus drivers who turned their engines off and hooted loud. Isn't that worth it, just the energy such a gathering brings? Especially a peaceful one
When did you last see a policeman on foot patrol in your local high street?
When did you last hear/see an anonymous deafening screaming police car race past you?
Contrast and compare.
Hitchens - "if people behave themselves there's no need for a strong state."
China - hold my beer
Rest of the world governments - ooh, look at China we fancy some of that.
That's the problem with Hitchens, he has no practical ideas on how to resist this. He is not too fond of protests and has no qualms about the vaccine. His idea of demonstrating dissatisfaction is to write to your MP. He is under some strange notion that MPs are influenced in anyway with correspondence from their constituents.
@@Gio-jv7nd He also never addresses the fact the world is made up of 49 Nations and 51 Corporate states - It's corporations that are running the show and until that balance tips the other way, All nations and the people who reside in them are in essence irrelevant - it's obvious the whole system is corrupt so even if every person wrote to their MP it would have zero effect because we are all still dictated to by unelected, unnacountable corporations whom hold the majority of power
Peter came across like a coward. The sort of man that , had he lived in that period; thought he could stop the Nazis by writing articles for his paper; s as long as you didn’t protest or physical fight back. And no doubt will continue to believe that until he has either sold us or sold himself and is on a freight train to a camp.
I take his comment in light of his books, were he describes the general decline of education and morality in this country. I hope it's still true that most people are civil because they want to be, not because they are frightened of the police. But I do think adults are increasingly juvenile.
More interesting is that an image of an abandoned and attacked police car left damaged and with grafitti on it shows the registration number is WX17 FHR.
When this number plate is anlaysed it reveals the car has no MOT. It t ran out last January. So, how did it get into the position? The car was not road legal.
Also, the logic is lacking in that a violent protest happened to protest about proposed restrictions to protest. How would this help the cause?
One wonders if some agent provocateurs were not out and about encouraging violence?
Not even slightly hard to believe at this point.
Biden crapped himself and told Putin he was 'too busy' to debate him. Trump would have debated Putin in a heartbeat.
When Russia becomes a better place to live than the UK... Sad times.
@@anonymous_bot_bot please don't be lulled into that kind of thinking. We have a chance to win our freedom back, Russia does not and never will.
Trump couldn't win a debate with a 5 year old, nevermind Putin.
@@chriswilkinson7636 Russia now is far more free than UK
@@davidhyatt7772 Sadly you are not far from the truth.
So what should we do peter give up like you .
Yes please
Bobthebuilder and his gang mucked the audio up on this were they paid to do that by the govt?
Always an interesting chat with Mr H, but I’m wearing EarPods and the scaffolders outside the window have blown my eardrums.
Is our Government not Her Majesties Government? I see nothing wrong MP's sitting in front of the Union flag.
The problem I see is a total lack of respect for the union flag from the BBC.
Stir people up so much that the only resort is violent protest. What else can you do? Just sit at home and take your medicine?
"People shouldn't be allowed to fake patriotism". Perfect, Peter.
Pity Peter has none himself then.
David Foord
"People shouldn't be allowed to fake patriotism". Perfect, Peter.''
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'Fake patriotism'' from a first class chameleon who runs with the hares and hunts with the hounds.
This from a man who propagates that what is transpiring is a culmination of gov. incompetence.
This from a man first in line to participate in the vaccination programme, an integral component in the formulation of a Totalitarian Technocratic State under the guise of a permanent. health crisis.
This from a man whose only advice is to complain to one's MP, everyone of whom not only know exactly what is occurring, but are totally complicit in a criminal enterprise.
This man is a charlatan personified who has zero credibility.
lost all respect for this man when despite all he's words complied and had the vaccine .
Police officers used to be policing with some office work, now its office work with some policing
What's the issue with having the British flag in a room? It's the state flag get over it
Exactly. There’s are a lot of weirdos with low self esteem that seem to have internal hatred of themselves.
Peaceful protest is banned, so what are people to do?
@Colin Beever a quite subdued protest where nobody raises their voices, nobody offends anybody, not too many people allowed to show up.... what fucking planet do you live on bozo.
There's plenty of police during a Patriots or Tommy Robinson gathering. Where do they come from? Are they kept in little boxes until needed?
Mr. Hitchens is so right about the lack of the preventive duty of the police.
Hitches "it will have the opposite outcome"
Then the riots continue
Unless you get public numbers it will have the opposite effect with public approval. Democracy is based on mass populous if you don't have the masses its against the masses the media play on this exact this with gov to get bills passed.
@@nickroy997 and a police state relies on docile complicity and lackadaisical effort because you don’t want to rock the boat by a major portion of the population. Then complain after the fact to your children maybe you could have done something but it’s too late now. Always remember that the Nazis were elected, it wasn’t a coup, and it only took at their height 35% of the vote.
Shoutout to the workmen outside his window making as much noise banging and crashing as they work 😣
Peter had them in installing a new spine. The old one is made of feathers.
planned, staged, deliberate and an example of the use of 'useful idiots'?
Seems to me talk radio is going a bit woke if you read between the lines
Indeed, JHB closed down her interview today with Laurence Fox when he mentioned the perfectly normal and sane human activity of having Easter lunch with family and a nervous Ian Collins shut down the interview with Conservative Woman editor Laura Perrins, she is extremely critical and speaks her mind about the government particularly Johnson.
Bristol has a strong counter culture. It doesnt suprise me that this happened in Bristol.
How do you mean?
@@firekind1980 he means lots of criminals
@@firekind1980 It has a strong underground youth culture, typically left leaning progressive types.
@@naturalbornchiller158 Left leaning? Arent they snowflakes?
@@elingrome5853 😊
We are British the Union Flag is our Flag the Government can fly it or have it anywhere take a hike Hitchens.
Peter is correct.
The police picked their side a while ago
Yep BLM and the wokeys
just nicked this from another commenter....
Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him, better take a closer look at the American Indian. Henry Ford.
The public is angry what do you expect
im not angry its just these scummy tramps Hope they all get covid
@@millwallholdings that sounds quite angry to me..
@@millwallholdings you're an angry cockney
@@millwallholdings weird rat
@@samengland2440 Not angry at all, Got what i want Torys and Brexit You hun ?
Unfortunately peaceful protest never changes anything.
It doesn't help that the MSM are dishonest about the scale be of these protests, especially the BBC who report a few hundred. It's called sweeping it under the carpet, so nobody pays it any attention.
The left and right should come together against these measures. Nobody is breaking the law by being annoying or loud, otherwise half the politicians in parliament would be in for life.
The common people coming together is the only thing that will save us now.
Doctors to get £12.58 for each person vaccinated. We’re all in this together 😂
Where did you get that info from
Doctors save lives, help ill people, give years to train to do it.....its you who has no morals to say such nasty stuff.
When peaceful protest is stopped, violent protest is inevitable...jfk or something
Mr hitchens who i respect seems to still retain a dislike of our flag? Or at least it appears so. The govt has every right to have a union jack on show.
He views them as false patriots which is his right. He is also correct. Do you really think this ‘heir to blairism’ party give a rats ass about the UK? Johnson’s predecessors handed over our key state infrastructure projects to the Chinese communist party! and Johnson had to be dragged under the threat of back bench mutiny to change course, which he still hasn’t, fully.
The “Conservative” party is a party of naive neoliberal pimps and they treat this country as an indentured prostitute, to be hired out to the highest bidder.
You missed the point then, on the contrary
The current method, waiting from crime to happen and then ... doing nothing.
Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake.
Depends on the crime, try being mean to someone on Twitter.
Did Peter just say if enough people mobilize to make their voice heard policy change can happen, 6:29 and then immediately after say protests don't have any affect? did I miss something? 9:21
Yes. You did . I made a clear distinction between street demonstrations and the political involvement of civil society.
@@peterhitchens4240 I made? you're not Peter Hitchens, you only have 76 subscribers and are following Owen Jones, neither of which is even remotely plausible, were Mr Hitchens to have a channel, but lets pretend for the sake of argument that you are, I agree that a clear distinction was made, I am questioning is there a clear distinction between street protest and political involvement of civil society, assuming a protest remains civil?
@@peterhitchens4240 - I miss your brother. I often wonder what wise words he would have for the strange turn events have taken in the last couple of years.
@@allahspreadshate6486 That is not "the" Peter Hitchens.
@@EmpiricalMind - I know. I was just fucking around.
Yet again, while talking tough Peter Hitchens reveals himself to be profoundly ineffectual. In the face of increasing authoritarianism it would seem that people are left with the choice to either a) engage in civilised debate and then basically sit at home and do nothing while further draconian laws are introduced or b) engage in protest (note, not violence) and make some noise, which may not actually immediately succeed but at least free men are doing something / putting up a fight. What, precisely has the gentleman's debating club actually achieved ? Has it stopped war or the erosion of civil liberties ? Have liberties ever been won without a struggle ?
OK so what would you suggest we do peter???
Yes my question too!
Write to your MP.. That is what he says on Twitter
I’d love Peter to have his own show on Talk Radio as he’s such an intelligent and fascinating man !!
I used to like listening to Peter & I agree with alot of what he says. But since he sold out & had the Vax I cannot take him seriously anymore.
@@johnrobinson2234 don’t shoot your allies
@@johnrobinson2234 I’m not sure what you mean by he sold out and as for him having the vaccine it’s got nothing to do with anyone else . He made his decision and I respect Peter !!
Come to Scotland, there are flags in EVERY bar and line the streets of all of our towns and cities. Nothing wrong with not hating ones country.
Force is the ultimate authority. When the people fears government there is tyranny. When the government fears the people there is liberty. Those who condemn violence but ignore how freedom was won in these lands do not deserve it.
So if I force you to lick my boot it is okay?
Force is the ultimate authority. If I could force you to sweep my doorstep would you?
@@ishmaelforester9825 Whether something is "okay" or not doesn't factor into it. If you can force me to do it and I cannot stop you, what's going to happen? I'm going to be licking boots or sweeping your doorstep.
Incidentally, you might want to think about why governments are always so desperate to be the only ones holding the guns.
@@illegalopinions4082 the point is you could refuse and be justified. When it comes to will a principle abides beyond the apparent fact of force.
You can't force anyone to Will against their will. You could make the desperate and the cowards obey but you cannot force a will to will your own.
perhaps if they'd prevented Edward Colston's statue being ripped down last year the youth of Bristol wouldnt feel they 'own' the streets.
Watching what is happening in Bradford now, the police need bringing to book.
Sadly, can't take anything Hitchens says seriously any more
The vast majority of that ‘crowd’ have neither lived in a state controlled world. It would be an easy task for them to ask any one who lived in a communist controlled European bloc what it is like to live in a police state wether it be communist or not. Nor have the vast majority lived in a segregated environment such as some US states or South Africa. The majority have not lived in a world where mummy and daddy could not send you to Uni or were so hard up as there was no child benefit for each child you had, voluntarily or not etc etc.
No but maybe they can see that this is what will happen if they don't take action
Please tell me why the police got involved if they had not intervened there would have not been any trouble
we dont trust you anymore Peter.
Peter you avoid the point on the Union Flag/ Union Jack... the British Broadcasting Corporation News readers laughed at this country’s symbol .. people of this country are offended by those who see themselves as Europeans not British .. we are proud of this country. I doubt you are
If these riots are " unacceptable" what is acceptable, lockdowns for a year, or more, suicides, domestic violence??
Wasnt Peter Hitchens against having the jib jab & then ended up getting it?!
He wants to go abroad
@@robdubz1510 *he's a cowardly old tool with no real principles
Peter is continuing the dive into being nothing but an irrelevance since he decided to take the mark of the beast and completely destroy any vestiges that he is somehow a sane voice in all this.
Hitchens is no longer a person we can trust
Absolutely agree, he is part of the 'mail' msm and their agenda is to lie and confuse you by one day publishing real, the next day fake, well like all msm nowadays
As if you ever did LOL
This is what people do when they feel they're not listened to
Hitchens has no validity to comment on liberty, when he sold out himself out to the jib jab
Think Peter has changed side,s now he seems to be pro lockdown.
A bit like the SNP claiming to represent ALL Scotland....a huge joke.
Hi I'm Peter
I pretend to be a man of the people
0:22 - A lockdown zealot hit the dislike button so hard, Peter could hear it from his house...
How else can people make their views heard , writing to MP,s is a total waste of time, they don't care.
Demonstrating may be pointless but with a government and media who hate the people, what else is left.
War, lol.
Hitchens utterly compelling as usual! Spot on !
Sounds like scaffolders outside petes window!!
Have you got your freedom yet peter?
Footage today released showing it was paid actors causing all the trouble
Can you link?
So all the revolutions and fighters against tyranny were wrong then.Without them I doubt you would have a voice.
The Poll tax protests changed the law Peter
@Alan How about the Boston Tea Party?
Hitchens always sat there with nostrils in position waiting for a swab.
What ?
The vaccine must have effected his common sense
Let's get this into proportion, Bristol is student town filled with students from all over the country and other countries. The majority of people in that protest were of student age infiltrated by blm anarchist. They torch and destroy property whilst the police stand back and watch it happen. Compare this to the peaceful anti lockdown protests in London and Manchester attended by thousands of people from different backgrounds and ages young and old and the police make multiple arrest backed up by TSG with battens cracking skulls.
Two tier policing at it's best. May be we should be looking at who is giving out the orders like the mayor's of these cities?
Oh. The traitor still speaks.
One of the reasons why, in 1950s, the police could effectively police the streets ..is, in my opinion, directly related to:
1. Respect
2. Poverty and disenfranchised people who are hooked on social media.
The idea of silicon Valley usurping and using huge power politically has driven this debarcle
U-turn Hitchens
Just to point out as an Ex Police Officer . The demands on the Police generally were much much lower in the 1950s than they are now . Demand has increased at a much bigger rate since than the resources available to the Police to deal with it and spectacularly so ! The gap has without doubt increased dramatically. The analogy Peter draws between the two eras is highly dubious to say the least. It has also been known for a very long time indeed that whilst an individual Bobby on the Beat may ( ? ) prevent crime they will have to walk the beat for a very long time indeed to for example catch a burglar in the process of burgling a house ( statistically about 26 years of walking the beat every day until it happens as I recall ). So then not then necessarily an efficient way of using resources. Therein also lies the need for Detectives . So again , be careful of the analogies drawn.
Power to the people
I take on board all the less than complimentary comments but Peter can be relied on to give an honest and independent pov, refreshing.
The right to protest doesn't include the right to disrupt the lives of others who may or not disagree. People who are just out for trouble need to be sorted out. Anarchists are like babies that will bite the hand that feeds them
At what point is it acceptable for protesters to get heated or even serious is my question? How many regimes around the world have our government condemned when their people have protested on mass?
Inevitably if the state wants to rule like a dictatorship then it will have consequences and if it continues at this trajectory riots will happen
What are people supposed to do if not protest? There's no opposition to anything the government do anymore. I hope the protests continue.