Good to see a video showing the reality of dog training. Most videos never show the progression from the beginning where the problems are and always only show the “finished” dog. I look forward to seeing an update on the training near the pool.
My dog is half as trained as this one, twice as distracted, and I'm four times as frustrated. Patience and incremental progress. Remember that it's what the dog thinks is a different environment. One part of the woods may seem similar to me but not the dog.
My son (Jeff) could be a twin brother to Ryan Gosling. =Jeff is a little taller than Ryan, but when Jeff was in the Army (82nd Airborne) he ands his buddies would go into bars and the bouncers always thought he was Ryan and Jeff's friends his body guards. Got them a few drinks.
Well made points. To much training in halls/classes is an unrealistic place for a dog. I believe in training around distractions as soon as the dog understands the commands . Lovely dog )
Yes indeed, very few trainers even try to understand the dog their working with. One thing Cease always does first is understand the dog....they are all different.
this is so useful, I had to pause the video because my dog was barking at a dog outside and I tried right away to distract her with orders and treats at a fast rate, she calmed down immediately (for a short moment) and completely forgot about the dog outside. Usually I'd tell her no repeatedly until she stops and starts whining because she can't bark and look outside. I've been doing it all wrong!
Finally, someone who tells how it really is!! Sunny by the pool is my pup most of the time~ distracted, distracted and distracted. After seeing this video~ time to go back and restart from the beginning. Thanks! for the upload and the pointers!👍
Amazing video! Shows the reality of dog training in different environments. Too many people believe once they train their dog at home, it will behave everywhere else.
That's pretty much how I've always done it. Training starts inside, and graduates to the yard. From there, I pick smaller, quiet places, and do a lot at night. Nighttime lets you do bigger spaces. Doggo gets all the exposure to space and the smells of the day, but with less visual/auditory distractions. I work them up to busier times/places, and then repeat the process with a longline, and again off-leash.
This is where generalizing training and proofing come into play. It is hard or almost impossible to train for every environment and situation but that is why we train.
My dog is 2+ years and all this while we took him for walks and playing in parks. Finally I realised it’s the mistake and no trainer ever told so. I have been doing as you are saying here for 2 weeks now and see remarkable change. This video helped me believe in what I am doing.
Obvious stuff (not really). This helps me a lot ... I have a 9 month old pup that I've had since he was 4 months. I have two other fairly well-trained dogs - 9 & 12 years. I take the pup on one 6 km walk daily and he behaves well - fairly good re-call and sit and down. Two other walks with the older dogs don't go so well. Dumb on me to expect equal obedience on all walks when other dogs are around. Thanks for pointing out the obvious that I hadn't considered.
HA! I remember you as the little kid from your dad's first videos in the way early 90's..."The most danger my kid is exposed to is being knocked down by a rambunctious littler of pups or getting wacked by a wagging tail" that you Jeff!! lol
I've been shown this with my dog by my dog trainer. It's good to see some else do it. I get this all the time and I thought I was doing it wrong but I ain't. Thank you
Video Auto played this video and while listening without looking and noticing what channel it was I knew... because Leerburg has a very particular “good”
This video is GREAT! Thank you for taking him by the pool as a perfect example! My dogs are ridiculous at the beach, now I know we need to work more away from the beach!
This is exactly what I'm struggling with in training my dog. For us, it's hiking. Her leash manners are great around the neighborhood, but in that new environment she's totally distracted by all the smells. I'm not sure how to incrementally introduce that environment. Any tips?
Thank you, excellent explanation, i have the same issues with my 8 mth old German shepherd, i have not been able to find another video on this and its exactly what i have been searching for, very well done
Great video! I have a 1 year old lab mix that I can bring just about anywhere, his temperament is lovely, even in really stimulating situations. The issue I am having however, is when we are around other dogs. He gets extremely excited and hard to control if he isn't on his easy-walk harness. His recall is excellent and he is almost better behaved off leash, lol. I would love to be able to get him to listen like this when in the presence of other canines on a simple buckle collar/leash or a slip lead.
Have you looked at any of Tyler Muto's DVDS? Tyler covers this topic in leerburg.com/leashreactivitydvd.php The DVD focuses on aggression but it covers training with your dog around other dogs. We also have DVDs on engagement ... which will help your dog engage with you better in any environment - leerburg.com/EngagementDVD.htm Hope this helps! Let us know if you have any other questions
Kiera FitzGerald I have two labs one is a mix the other isn’t and they are really bad. We can’t separate them but since they are together they are more trouble.
i was so tired of our lilly biting us all the time and then i used a few tips i learned from the tinyurl.com/yaq8h47b -- videos. it was like night and day; worked so well
Is it just me or does this guy's voice sound like Chris Evans aka Captain America? ....actually, that'd be a pretty adorable short. Ooooh!! Nick Fury comes up to him and is like, "I've got one more mission for you, Cap" and it's training dogs to help rehabilitate vets and provide comfort and such.
I have a seven year old Australian Shepherd. Whenever he goes outside to do his biz, he waits on the porch for me to come out and accompany him around the yard. I didn't train him to do this. He just does. He walks where I do, not aggressive towards other dogs or people. Loves the frisbee. Couldn't ask for more.
Hi, I'm brand spankin' new to dog training. I have a question regarding this video, but I need to do a little setup first. Overshadowing is frequently highlighted as one of the most common mistakes that new handlers make when learning to train with reward-based systems. With very few exceptions, every piece of educational material I have studied so far in regards to marker training and conditioning, has placed *_significant emphasis_* on avoiding the pairing/overshadowing of verbal cues and physical cues by accidentally performing them simultaneously. It is warned that overshadowing will result in the physical cue overriding the verbal cue, which will inhibit a handlers attempts to condition the dog to the verbal cue and/or reduce the value of the verbal cue. Considerable priority is placed on integrating a sequence which maintains concise separation between verbal and physical cue. The verbal cue/sound/clicker click *must be* fully concluded before initiation of the physical cue. In short, I have been conditioned (😉) to believe that pairing/overshadowing is directly counter-productive to the end-goal of conditioning my dog to verbal cues, and I should give high priority to implementing this knowledge into my training. With all of this in mind, I couldn't help but notice that in this video, Jeff consistently pairs his terminal/release marker "yes!" with the action of moving to dispense the reward. Verbal cue and physical cue are executed at pretty much EXACTLY the same time. *_Why is this the case?_* *_Is this dog simply conditioned well enough that it doesn't matter?_* *Note: I am not calling into question this trainers expertise or method!* Quite the opposite! It is very clear to me that he has developed a successful communication system which Sonny understands and is able to execute commands based on the information and feedback he receives from that system. So it leads me to question why he is very obviously pairing verbal and physical cues despite all of the emphasis in the literature and other educational material and media which deters such pairing. Can anyone shed some light on this for me?
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Like MOvie Dog adn true Tactical Dog Trainers--forget the auditory signal--why the focus on it? Dogs don't talk--humans project this--work with the canine strong signal system (visual)
Treats in hand will help keep dogs attention....although this will only work if your dog is food/treat driven... you my need to use a toy or other means depending on your dog and what drives them... drug dogs will usually get a toy as a reward
my 1year old pup stares at me waiting to sit, down or fetch while i hold the ball, also she knows how to creep slowly to the ball and then wait over it until i allow her to get it…gsp/border collie mix…i am using traits she’s hardwired for….she loves the stalking creep up on the ball game. watch your dog and exploit the natural traits
The same thing goes on with my dog, she’s great in the house but we go out and its impossible to get her attention. At what point/ what’s the hint or marker when dog owners can proceed to an increasingly distracting environment with our dogs?
@@Christusolus They'll do amazing, just as they've been conditioned to. The purpose of this is to teach and "GENERALIZE" the behaviors while attaching then to feelings of excitement/elation. After enough time, that elation and excitement becomes permanently attached to the commands. At that point, you fade out using the kibble and move towards just simple verbal commands while only ever paying out once or twice every couple weeks or so. How does this work? The same way a slot machine works for us humans. We continue to perform a meaningless behavior over and over (pulling the slot machine handle) simply for the sake of the POSSIBILITY of a payout, even though a payout rarely ever comes, because it's happened to us in the past and we have excited emotion attached to that payout. Same reason the dog continues to offer the behaviors later on without the use of any food/treats/etc. This is how Pavlovian Learning works (classical conditioning) and how you begin to shape and control behaviors from the dog even if the dog isn't willingly participating in the learning process mentally. You're also only viewing what's called the "teaching" phase. This is only to establish and reinforce commands, to ensure that the dog knows 110%, without a shadow of a doubt, what's being asked of it. This is achieved by creating benefit for the dog to the point it operates flawlessly just off of verbal command alone, and from in any direction, placement, distance, or etc. From there, once the dog ABSOLUTELY knows the command through and through and isn't relying on a visual cue or other indicator other then the voice alone, THEN you move onto proofing. Proofing is where you start slowly adding in higher and higher levels of distraction, and gaining/enforcing compliance at each level, until the dog is performing in compliance nearly 100% of the time without any hesitation or the need for any correction. At this point, you now know your dog is done and you're good to go. But, to understand how all this works, you have to get extremely versed and educated in learning application, canine cognition, and not only WHY everything works but the mechanisms at play that MAKE it work. Without that, you'll have an extremely hard time learning or understanding thoroughly why it is that this works and why all of your most elite of elite trainers in top10 positions all across the world in competition, use these exact methods to get to the levels they reach (vs just simple compulsion training that looks like child's play when compared on the field during Schutzhund/PSA/IPO/FR trials when compared to the dogs trained using these methods.) Note: It's not always food, treats, or kibble that's used either. It's all dependent on the dog and what they desire and enjoy most based off of their innate and inborn natural drives. Some will be rewarded by by treats, some will be food, some will be tug games, some will be solely praise and attention, and all that's in between. Just depends on the individual dog and the drives they display. Learning about the three following methods of how dogs, humans, and virtually everything else learns, will REALLY help you out drastically in putting out top tier dogs: - Classical Conditioning - Operant Conditioning - Premack Principles ***This is exactly how whales, dolphins, walruses, and virtually all other wild animals, lions, tigers, and bears are trained for those big elaborate shows and stunning crowd performances... You ever tried choking, shocking, or forcing a whale, dolphin, bear, or walrus to learn and perform? Of course not, they'll flatout kill you hehe. Thus, how these very methods were studied, founded, and implemented. Just go back and watch a top10 Nationals Schutzhund trial from the 80s where they used pure compulsion and etc. Then watch and compare a top10 Nationals trial from today's times where they now use these methods. It's easy to see which dogs are more elite, fight with more vigor, and have much more responsive reactions and drive on the field - not to mention overall happier and elated while fighting and performing :)
I know right! It's not sea world. The dog wasn't distracted by the pool it just had enough treats so it stopped listening. Leader of the pack not leader of the snack. I always liked the Koehlers method of training a dog to heal. never a word spoken. Just training the dog to pay attention to the person.
I believe a good dog will do whatever is necessary to bring it the most pleasure. Praise and food definitely bring a dog pleasure. When outside, many things compete for the most pleasure the dog can have. Many trainers do not feed the dog in the morning but use the food as training treats, increasing the pleasure of having something to eat. Sometimes you have to reduce the perceived pleasure by introducing some level of unpleasantness to a competing pleasure. I believe saying "NO" to a dog is appropriate. After all, we say it to our children, don't we?
Question, I was a little confused with the use of the different marker commands. Sometimes it was yes and then on another occasions it was the word good. Please correct me, but I thought you were supposed to pick only 1 marker word? Such as Yes and then reward 😮 Regards Kate
When people have specific training questions we recommend that they go to our website and post those questions in the ASK CINDY on the front page of leerburg.com/
Start asap. Earlier you start with a puppy the better (after weaning of course). Find what excites him whether it's a specific toy, certain treats, etc and use that as a reward for focusing on you
very solid points, and i agree with it 100%, the only problem is, most ppl dont have the luxury of training in different environments, they only have their home or backyard, or a park if they are lucky, but most ppl would not have the time to be training their dog out on the streets, let alone looking embarrassed cuz everybody is looking
This is kind of a strange question, but do you have any recommendations for trainers in Tucson Arizona? You’re amazing and I would love to find someone local as talented.
Yes - one of our Leerburg Instructors lives and has a training business in Tucson JJ Belcher. Sublime Canine. If you cant find him email out office and ask leerburg.com
Are you able to get your dog to do those things without treats? He just seems treat dependent. You're only showing us that the dog is hungry or it really likes treats. Is there a video somewhere with this dog doing all of this with treats?
@@jovani5366 Right, lol. If someone was waving a trillion dollars in front of my face maybe I might do some jumps through hoops...take that trillion away and I'll do whatever I feel like doing whenever.
My dog is a rescue, she's pitbull and chocolate lab mix, I've gotten her fully potty trained, but getting her to listen and not be aggressive towards other dogs is not so easy, I know she had a hard past, but it's something that I need help with.
I have a one year old collie that has absolutely no interest in learning...🤷♀️😓😔 And a 5 year old collie that has so much anxiety it's insane 😓😞 Both rescue dogs Any tips to help with dog anxiety and to get a dog to want to and enjoy learning... ❤
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When I see people commenting about how their collie doesn't want to train or has anxiety, the #1 culprit is not enough exercise. go run your dogs get them somewhat tired before training with them, not a walk get on a bike and have them run a walk is a waste of time you need them to run. Once they are tired then start training.
Tawana xo after watching & working with my high energy labs, I’ve learned that they need to burn energy before they are calm enough to train. I run them with a ball for a while then work on training. They are able to focus better
Most people I see just give the reward to the dog where he is, I notice you always make him work for it, offering it to one side then the other, or offering it up behind you so the dog has to make a couple of steps to get to it. What's the reasoning?
what's your secret to getting such strong focus/engagement (prolonged eye contact, excitement and anticipation, etc) when he's heeling at your side? pretty impressive.
Some dogs naturally have strong eye contact, especially working dogs. An easy training method is simply rewarding them when they make eye contact with you.
Hi, Sonny seems like a soft dog... You are not using a prong collar. It looks like a dominant dog collar. I have a soft dog would you recommend a dominant dog for soft dogs??
Yes, but you just use it in a much more moderate way. Allow for the dog to be in control of the amount of pressure they experience, rather than applying the pressure yourself. A hard dog = can handle and easily deal with a good bit of handler applied pressure/stress. A soft dog = you want the dog to apply their own pressure and be in control of their own aversions and etc. Ie- ride the collar high and snug in the neck, just below the base of the skull, and anchor yourself/the lead and let THEM apply their own pressure via their own movements and etc. Just like if a dog runs into a wall at Mach10, it's not going to cower and be afraid of the wall, because it knows full and well that it did it on its own accord. Now, if you made that wall come rushing AT THE DOG at Mach10, then that dog is going to break and be terrified of that wall. Thus - let the dog be in control of its own pressure/discomfort. This'll eliminate damaging the relationship and eliminate causing the dog to fear because it will he in control of everything on its own and feel as if it is responsible for the pressure and etc on its own accord as well. Hope this helps someone. (Took me a long time to understand this concept years ago, hehe).
Er macht das alles für Leckerei, aber Pool ist wichtiger wie Leckerei darum das funktioniert nicht oder hört nicht zu. Er bekommt zu viel Leckerei. Stimme Belohnung und ab und zu Leckerei geht besser.
I like the message, but I don't understand why he says yes to mark the behavior but doesn't treat while the dog is sitting or on a down. Pulling the dog out of position to treat just doesn't make sense to me. It's like "why hold the sit or down if I only get treated when I'm out of position"?
Great questions Susanne! In our marker training system we use three key words to communicate with our dogs: YES (movement marker), GOOD (duration marker), NO/NOPE (correction marker). YES, to Sonny, means you've completed the behavior asked and you're free from that behavior to get your reward. In this video, had Jeff said GOOD, Sonny would have stayed in the sit position and Jeff would have went to Sonny to reward him. GOOD, to Sonny, means you've completed the behavior, stay in that behavior and Jeff would have went to him to reward. Jeff simply does not show the duration marker in this short video.
It is just the command that Jeff chose to use - you can use any command for any behavior- you don't have to just use the formal words that are used in dog sports or AKC.
I was playing around training some different positions when sonny was a puppy. Originally I was not training the heel but it just kind of turned into that and I never changed the command. So long story short there is no reason i used i different command.
I know this video is older but seeing that level of focus with a dog that isn’t a shepherd or malinois is really inspiring
Good to see a video showing the reality of dog training. Most videos never show the progression from the beginning where the problems are and always only show the “finished” dog. I look forward to seeing an update on the training near the pool.
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My dog is half as trained as this one, twice as distracted, and I'm four times as frustrated.
Patience and incremental progress. Remember that it's what the dog thinks is a different environment. One part of the woods may seem similar to me but not the dog.
Train him with chicken
I thought one of his commands was Sunny side, then I realised Sunny was the dogs name and the command was side
Hahah same.
Haha
Me too lmao
😂😂😂
When did Ryan Gosling become a dog trainer?
My son (Jeff) could be a twin brother to Ryan Gosling. =Jeff is a little taller than Ryan, but when Jeff was in the Army (82nd Airborne) he ands his buddies would go into bars and the bouncers always thought he was Ryan and Jeff's friends his body guards. Got them a few drinks.
Right!
Ikr.. Lol
Ha ha I thought exactly that !!
Hehehehehe
Well made points. To much training in halls/classes is an unrealistic place for a dog. I believe in training around distractions as soon as the dog understands the commands . Lovely dog )
Sonny agrees :)
Yes indeed, very few trainers even try to understand the dog their working with. One thing Cease always does first is understand the dog....they are all different.
I believe you're on some kind of drug that puts you out of touch with reality, :).
this is so useful, I had to pause the video because my dog was barking at a dog outside and I tried right away to distract her with orders and treats at a fast rate, she calmed down immediately (for a short moment) and completely forgot about the dog outside. Usually I'd tell her no repeatedly until she stops and starts whining because she can't bark and look outside. I've been doing it all wrong!
Finally, someone who tells how it really is!!
Sunny by the pool is my pup most of the time~ distracted, distracted and distracted. After seeing this video~ time to go back and restart from the beginning. Thanks! for the upload and the pointers!👍
That heel is so impressive
Amazing video! Shows the reality of dog training in different environments. Too many people believe once they train their dog at home, it will behave everywhere else.
That's pretty much how I've always done it. Training starts inside, and graduates to the yard. From there, I pick smaller, quiet places, and do a lot at night. Nighttime lets you do bigger spaces. Doggo gets all the exposure to space and the smells of the day, but with less visual/auditory distractions.
I work them up to busier times/places, and then repeat the process with a longline, and again off-leash.
Great demo about the importance of slowly adding distractions.
I needed this video, thanks! I was setting my expectations WAY too high!
Great demo! Amazing how the dog went from one extreme to another based on change in environments; point well made!
Great to see an honest view of real life and training! Thanks
This is where generalizing training and proofing come into play. It is hard or almost impossible to train for every environment and situation but that is why we train.
My dog is 2+ years and all this while we took him for walks and playing in parks. Finally I realised it’s the mistake and no trainer ever told so. I have been doing as you are saying here for 2 weeks now and see remarkable change. This video helped me believe in what I am doing.
Glad this helped you out! :)
Obvious stuff (not really). This helps me a lot ... I have a 9 month old pup that I've had since he was 4 months. I have two other fairly well-trained dogs - 9 & 12 years. I take the pup on one 6 km walk daily and he behaves well - fairly good re-call and sit and down. Two other walks with the older dogs don't go so well. Dumb on me to expect equal obedience on all walks when other dogs are around. Thanks for pointing out the obvious that I hadn't considered.
Thanks for showing us also the imperfect results from the training, I really appreciate that. Cheers
I’m impressed with your training. looks like a lot of fun. Wish I could get my dog to place and walk backwards.I 💕 it.
HA! I remember you as the little kid from your dad's first videos in the way early 90's..."The most danger my kid is exposed to is being knocked down by a rambunctious littler of pups or getting wacked by a wagging tail" that you Jeff!! lol
This is how i need my dog trained I'm going to get working with her ASAP
I've been shown this with my dog by my dog trainer.
It's good to see some else do it.
I get this all the time and I thought I was doing it wrong but I ain't.
Thank you
so useful too see. not very often trainers show environments that don't work
Video Auto played this video and while listening without looking and noticing what channel it was I knew... because Leerburg has a very particular “good”
Seeing this video is right on time, I was feeling distractions were becoming overwhelming
Awesome video! I'm working on confidence building with my German shepherd. Love the tips!
Excellent video. How to slowly proof your dog behaviour against the distractions in the environment. How this has to be done with patience .
This video is GREAT! Thank you for taking him by the pool as a perfect example! My dogs are ridiculous at the beach, now I know we need to work more away from the beach!
Loved this video all starting to make sense to me never mind the dog lots of help thanks
This is exactly what I'm struggling with in training my dog. For us, it's hiking. Her leash manners are great around the neighborhood, but in that new environment she's totally distracted by all the smells. I'm not sure how to incrementally introduce that environment. Any tips?
Thank you, excellent explanation, i have the same issues with my 8 mth old German shepherd, i have not been able to find another video on this and its exactly what i have been searching for, very well done
So nice to see this video-thank you.
I got a new service dog recently and I’ve always wondered how exactly they learn to train the dogs to be so responsive and focused.
Very helpful training tips.
Great video! I have a 1 year old lab mix that I can bring just about anywhere, his temperament is lovely, even in really stimulating situations. The issue I am having however, is when we are around other dogs. He gets extremely excited and hard to control if he isn't on his easy-walk harness. His recall is excellent and he is almost better behaved off leash, lol. I would love to be able to get him to listen like this when in the presence of other canines on a simple buckle collar/leash or a slip lead.
Have you looked at any of Tyler Muto's DVDS? Tyler covers this topic in leerburg.com/leashreactivitydvd.php
The DVD focuses on aggression but it covers training with your dog around other dogs. We also have DVDs on engagement ... which will help your dog engage with you better in any environment - leerburg.com/EngagementDVD.htm
Hope this helps! Let us know if you have any other questions
Kiera FitzGerald I have two labs one is a mix the other isn’t and they are really bad. We can’t separate them but since they are together they are more trouble.
Thanks, really good content.
It's nice to see real life training with a trainer and his dog!
It's a hell of a bumpy road!
I can’t pay attention while thinking of all the Ryan Gosling jokes
I didn't even know Ryan Gosling trained dogs.
i was so tired of our lilly biting us all the time and then i used a few tips i learned from the tinyurl.com/yaq8h47b -- videos. it was like night and day; worked so well
Vice President Gosling
1st thing everyone thinks, I’m sure.
Class act Ryan Gosling lookalike, shame i couldn't find more videos of how you got to this stage, good effort
Thank you for this video.
Awwww 2:22
-2:52 he is soo smart
Thanks
superb, thanks for the insights!
Thank you for making some really good points. It was cool that I got to see it happen just like you said.
Thank you, my dog can do a lot of commands/tricks but when I leave the house he doesn't respond very well.
That was very learningful
Is it just me or does this guy's voice sound like Chris Evans aka Captain America?
....actually, that'd be a pretty adorable short. Ooooh!! Nick Fury comes up to him and is like, "I've got one more mission for you, Cap" and it's training dogs to help rehabilitate vets and provide comfort and such.
I have a seven year old Australian Shepherd. Whenever he goes outside to do his biz, he waits on the porch for me to come out and accompany him around the yard. I didn't train him to do this. He just does. He walks where I do, not aggressive towards other dogs or people. Loves the frisbee. Couldn't ask for more.
Thanks mr gosling
This is so real, this is my dog to a T!! I need more videos! Lol.
Great demo.
I love you and your dog
This is great help me out a lot
Covering your acoustic foam with solid surfaces (pictures/paper) like that makes it redundant. It's like covering a flashlight with your hand.
We cut sections into the foam for the photos :) The foam in the room is more for look than anything
Great example of how the environment shifts bx.
Hi, I'm brand spankin' new to dog training. I have a question regarding this video, but I need to do a little setup first.
Overshadowing is frequently highlighted as one of the most common mistakes that new handlers make when learning to train with reward-based systems. With very few exceptions, every piece of educational material I have studied so far in regards to marker training and conditioning, has placed *_significant emphasis_* on avoiding the pairing/overshadowing of verbal cues and physical cues by accidentally performing them simultaneously. It is warned that overshadowing will result in the physical cue overriding the verbal cue, which will inhibit a handlers attempts to condition the dog to the verbal cue and/or reduce the value of the verbal cue.
Considerable priority is placed on integrating a sequence which maintains concise separation between verbal and physical cue. The verbal cue/sound/clicker click *must be* fully concluded before initiation of the physical cue.
In short, I have been conditioned (😉) to believe that pairing/overshadowing is directly counter-productive to the end-goal of conditioning my dog to verbal cues, and I should give high priority to implementing this knowledge into my training.
With all of this in mind, I couldn't help but notice that in this video, Jeff consistently pairs his terminal/release marker "yes!" with the action of moving to dispense the reward. Verbal cue and physical cue are executed at pretty much EXACTLY the same time.
*_Why is this the case?_*
*_Is this dog simply conditioned well enough that it doesn't matter?_*
*Note: I am not calling into question this trainers expertise or method!*
Quite the opposite! It is very clear to me that he has developed a successful communication system which Sonny understands and is able to execute commands based on the information and feedback he receives from that system. So it leads me to question why he is very obviously pairing verbal and physical cues despite all of the emphasis in the literature and other educational material and media which deters such pairing.
Can anyone shed some light on this for me?
Have a training or equipment question? Reach out to Cindy via our Ask Cindy Portal on our website. She answers emails daily and will be able to give you specific advice and recommendations. leerburg.com/newcontact.php
@@LeerburgDogTraining wow. What I lovely canned response.
Like MOvie Dog adn true Tactical Dog Trainers--forget the auditory signal--why the focus on it? Dogs don't talk--humans project this--work with the canine strong signal system (visual)
This helped me with my dog bc in my new video my service dog was in training and she was distracted easily :/
Can you explain the training you do to maintain the focus that Sonny has on you while you're working with him?
Treats in hand will help keep dogs attention....although this will only work if your dog is food/treat driven... you my need to use a toy or other means depending on your dog and what drives them... drug dogs will usually get a toy as a reward
my 1year old pup stares at me waiting to sit, down or fetch while i hold the ball, also she knows how to creep slowly to the ball and then wait over it until i allow her to get it…gsp/border collie mix…i am using traits she’s hardwired for….she loves the stalking creep up on the ball game. watch your dog and exploit the natural traits
The same thing goes on with my dog, she’s great in the house but we go out and its impossible to get her attention.
At what point/ what’s the hint or marker when dog owners can proceed to an increasingly distracting environment with our dogs?
Interesting to see how the dog will concentrate or obey without treats
yes, please. please make a video of this
@@Christusolus They'll do amazing, just as they've been conditioned to.
The purpose of this is to teach and "GENERALIZE" the behaviors while attaching then to feelings of excitement/elation. After enough time, that elation and excitement becomes permanently attached to the commands. At that point, you fade out using the kibble and move towards just simple verbal commands while only ever paying out once or twice every couple weeks or so.
How does this work? The same way a slot machine works for us humans. We continue to perform a meaningless behavior over and over (pulling the slot machine handle) simply for the sake of the POSSIBILITY of a payout, even though a payout rarely ever comes, because it's happened to us in the past and we have excited emotion attached to that payout. Same reason the dog continues to offer the behaviors later on without the use of any food/treats/etc. This is how Pavlovian Learning works (classical conditioning) and how you begin to shape and control behaviors from the dog even if the dog isn't willingly participating in the learning process mentally.
You're also only viewing what's called the "teaching" phase. This is only to establish and reinforce commands, to ensure that the dog knows 110%, without a shadow of a doubt, what's being asked of it. This is achieved by creating benefit for the dog to the point it operates flawlessly just off of verbal command alone, and from in any direction, placement, distance, or etc. From there, once the dog ABSOLUTELY knows the command through and through and isn't relying on a visual cue or other indicator other then the voice alone, THEN you move onto proofing.
Proofing is where you start slowly adding in higher and higher levels of distraction, and gaining/enforcing compliance at each level, until the dog is performing in compliance nearly 100% of the time without any hesitation or the need for any correction. At this point, you now know your dog is done and you're good to go.
But, to understand how all this works, you have to get extremely versed and educated in learning application, canine cognition, and not only WHY everything works but the mechanisms at play that MAKE it work. Without that, you'll have an extremely hard time learning or understanding thoroughly why it is that this works and why all of your most elite of elite trainers in top10 positions all across the world in competition, use these exact methods to get to the levels they reach (vs just simple compulsion training that looks like child's play when compared on the field during Schutzhund/PSA/IPO/FR trials when compared to the dogs trained using these methods.)
Note: It's not always food, treats, or kibble that's used either. It's all dependent on the dog and what they desire and enjoy most based off of their innate and inborn natural drives. Some will be rewarded by by treats, some will be food, some will be tug games, some will be solely praise and attention, and all that's in between. Just depends on the individual dog and the drives they display.
Learning about the three following methods of how dogs, humans, and virtually everything else learns, will REALLY help you out drastically in putting out top tier dogs:
- Classical Conditioning
- Operant Conditioning
- Premack Principles
***This is exactly how whales, dolphins, walruses, and virtually all other wild animals, lions, tigers, and bears are trained for those big elaborate shows and stunning crowd performances... You ever tried choking, shocking, or forcing a whale, dolphin, bear, or walrus to learn and perform? Of course not, they'll flatout kill you hehe. Thus, how these very methods were studied, founded, and implemented.
Just go back and watch a top10 Nationals Schutzhund trial from the 80s where they used pure compulsion and etc. Then watch and compare a top10 Nationals trial from today's times where they now use these methods. It's easy to see which dogs are more elite, fight with more vigor, and have much more responsive reactions and drive on the field - not to mention overall happier and elated while fighting and performing :)
That's when ya know they behave well....without treats
I know right! It's not sea world. The dog wasn't distracted by the pool it just had enough treats so it stopped listening. Leader of the pack not leader of the snack. I always liked the Koehlers method of training a dog to heal. never a word spoken. Just training the dog to pay attention to the person.
So this is what Ryan Gosling does on his free time...Good boyyy!
Thankyou this means a lot and has really helped
I believe a good dog will do whatever is necessary to bring it the most pleasure. Praise and food definitely bring a dog pleasure. When outside, many things compete for the most pleasure the dog can have. Many trainers do not feed the dog in the morning but use the food as training treats, increasing the pleasure of having something to eat. Sometimes you have to reduce the perceived pleasure by introducing some level of unpleasantness to a competing pleasure. I believe saying "NO" to a dog is appropriate. After all, we say it to our children, don't we?
How do you slowly do it, but also get their regular walks? I wanna start out short training walks, but he needs more then that.
Great video.
Question, I was a little confused with the use of the different marker commands. Sometimes it was yes and then on another occasions it was the word good. Please correct me, but I thought you were supposed to pick only 1 marker word? Such as Yes and then reward 😮 Regards Kate
Anyone else here because your dog is running around the room biting your pants
I actually have to bring my pup to school soooo I have to train him😂😂😂
great visual aid!
Thanks!
What do you do with a dog that wants to be aggressive outside to the point where its almost impossible to play with him? Perfectly behaved indoors.
Very nice tips sir
Wow dedication and hours of training...im trying g to train my german shephard shes very clever but it'll be a while before she's tbis good if ever ..
My GSD doesnt always respond to treats. How do I get him to focus on those occasions when he isnt interested in treats?
When people have specific training questions we recommend that they go to our website and post those questions in the ASK CINDY on the front page of leerburg.com/
Great video. At what age is best to start this. My Doberman puppy is 10 weeks and I cant get him to concentrate
Start asap. Earlier you start with a puppy the better (after weaning of course). Find what excites him whether it's a specific toy, certain treats, etc and use that as a reward for focusing on you
My dog has intense focus on another dog. While in the zone, he is not interested in food at all. Even high value food like bbq chicken.
very solid points, and i agree with it 100%, the only problem is, most ppl dont have the luxury of training in different environments, they only have their home or backyard, or a park if they are lucky, but most ppl would not have the time to be training their dog out on the streets, let alone looking embarrassed cuz everybody is looking
If you don’t have the time to train on the streets or you’re worried about being embarrassed you probably shouldn’t have a dog
This is kind of a strange question, but do you have any recommendations for trainers in Tucson Arizona? You’re amazing and I would love to find someone local as talented.
Yes - one of our Leerburg Instructors lives and has a training business in Tucson JJ Belcher. Sublime Canine. If you cant find him email out office and ask leerburg.com
Was it hard to get in character for Deadpool?
That’s Ken!
Are you able to get your dog to do those things without treats? He just seems treat dependent. You're only showing us that the dog is hungry or it really likes treats. Is there a video somewhere with this dog doing all of this with treats?
I know I was thinking the same thing.
I was like can the dog do all that without a treat or only with it.
@@jovani5366
Right, lol. If someone was waving a trillion dollars in front of my face maybe I might do some jumps through hoops...take that trillion away and I'll do whatever I feel like doing whenever.
What kind of treats do you use
My dog trainer uses beef lung. I bought a bag for $8 on Amazon lasts a good while and my dog loves them.
My dog is a rescue, she's pitbull and chocolate lab mix, I've gotten her fully potty trained, but getting her to listen and not be aggressive towards other dogs is not so easy, I know she had a hard past, but it's something that I need help with.
I hope you had good luck with her! Kudos to you for looking for help with dog training videos 👍
In 240p quality you look like Ryan Gosling
Jeff gets that a lot!
Bring sonny at the pool when he's really hungry and he'll say "woof-get about that pool where's the treats", yum yum!🐶🐕🤩
I have a one year old collie that has absolutely no interest in learning...🤷♀️😓😔
And a 5 year old collie that has so much anxiety it's insane 😓😞
Both rescue dogs
Any tips to help with dog anxiety and to get a dog to want to and enjoy learning... ❤
Any training questions, please email Cindy on our contact page: leerburg.com/newcontact.php
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When I see people commenting about how their collie doesn't want to train or has anxiety, the #1 culprit is not enough exercise. go run your dogs get them somewhat tired before training with them, not a walk get on a bike and have them run a walk is a waste of time you need them to run. Once they are tired then start training.
My dog just won’t listen especially at dog parks & treats do not help he’s only 6 months ! Help !
Tawana xo after watching & working with my high energy labs, I’ve learned that they need to burn energy before they are calm enough to train. I run them with a ball for a while then work on training. They are able to focus better
Tina Caballero I’ll definitely try this
Any questions please contact Cindy at: leerburg.com/newcontact.php?cat=QA and she will get back to your promptly :)
Most people I see just give the reward to the dog where he is, I notice you always make him work for it, offering it to one side then the other, or offering it up behind you so the dog has to make a couple of steps to get to it. What's the reasoning?
That’s all great till you have a dog that isn’t easily motivated.
How did they get Ryan Reynolds to train a dog?
Start training in a distraction free zone......Continues to train in a room with bright yellow walls 😀
what's your secret to getting such strong focus/engagement (prolonged eye contact, excitement and anticipation, etc) when he's heeling at your side? pretty impressive.
Some dogs naturally have strong eye contact, especially working dogs. An easy training method is simply rewarding them when they make eye contact with you.
Why wouldn’t you use the pool as a reward?
Hi,
Sonny seems like a soft dog... You are not using a prong collar. It looks like a dominant dog collar. I have a soft dog would you recommend a dominant dog for soft dogs??
Yes, but you just use it in a much more moderate way. Allow for the dog to be in control of the amount of pressure they experience, rather than applying the pressure yourself.
A hard dog = can handle and easily deal with a good bit of handler applied pressure/stress.
A soft dog = you want the dog to apply their own pressure and be in control of their own aversions and etc. Ie- ride the collar high and snug in the neck, just below the base of the skull, and anchor yourself/the lead and let THEM apply their own pressure via their own movements and etc.
Just like if a dog runs into a wall at Mach10, it's not going to cower and be afraid of the wall, because it knows full and well that it did it on its own accord. Now, if you made that wall come rushing AT THE DOG at Mach10, then that dog is going to break and be terrified of that wall. Thus - let the dog be in control of its own pressure/discomfort. This'll eliminate damaging the relationship and eliminate causing the dog to fear because it will he in control of everything on its own and feel as if it is responsible for the pressure and etc on its own accord as well.
Hope this helps someone. (Took me a long time to understand this concept years ago, hehe).
Er macht das alles für Leckerei, aber Pool ist wichtiger wie Leckerei darum das funktioniert nicht oder hört nicht zu. Er bekommt zu viel Leckerei. Stimme Belohnung und ab und zu Leckerei geht besser.
didn't know Ryan Gosling was a Dog Trainer in his free time...
I like the message, but I don't understand why he says yes to mark the behavior but doesn't treat while the dog is sitting or on a down. Pulling the dog out of position to treat just doesn't make sense to me. It's like "why hold the sit or down if I only get treated when I'm out of position"?
Great questions Susanne! In our marker training system we use three key words to communicate with our dogs: YES (movement marker), GOOD (duration marker), NO/NOPE (correction marker). YES, to Sonny, means you've completed the behavior asked and you're free from that behavior to get your reward. In this video, had Jeff said GOOD, Sonny would have stayed in the sit position and Jeff would have went to Sonny to reward him. GOOD, to Sonny, means you've completed the behavior, stay in that behavior and Jeff would have went to him to reward. Jeff simply does not show the duration marker in this short video.
why say side instead heel? just curious
It is just the command that Jeff chose to use - you can use any command for any behavior- you don't have to just use the formal words that are used in dog sports or AKC.
I have assigned "heel" to my left side, "side" to my right side
I was playing around training some different positions when sonny was a puppy. Originally I was not training the heel but it just kind of turned into that and I never changed the command. So long story short there is no reason i used i different command.
Such a handsome, good boy!
By the time you got to the pool the dog wasn't as hungry as he was at the beginning of the training.
Dude my always liking me and theycare so hyper how can i make the calm and stop licking me