A friends dad donated over 10000 artifacts to a local museum. Almost every single one disappeared. He had an unbelievable collection. I have never seen anything close to as nice as his collection in person or on the internet. They would rotate what was on display every couple months until it was all gone.
This is a very interesting narration, and a sad commentary on the typical attitudes of those who colonized the Americas, even to recent times. So much of what the native peoples had has been lost or stolen, including (most importantly) their original culture and language. To all those ignorant commenters criticizing the narrator, or worse, making nasty slurs I say shame on them. The narrator clearly has a cleft palate or some similar speech impediment, and I think from his vocal inflection that he is also a native american. I thank him for presenting this story in his own voice.
I didn’t realize I was talking fast 😅 As for the second part of the question, it was mentioned that the artifacts were dispersed to museums and private collections after they were found, so pictures are rare, such as the one of the collection in the thumbnail. The stone scepter at 1:40 is one of the artifacts that was found in Bowers Cave.
Isn't the cave close to Paiute Lake off Hwy 126? My neighbor had a grandmother who was Paiute. I think these could be Paiute items. I've never heard of the Tataviam natives. Do you have any information on how these items were identified?
Thanks for watching! Yes, Bowers Cave is off Highway 126 in north Los Angeles county. The Tataviam are an interesting people since researchers can’t reach a consensus if whether they were related to the Chumash of the coast or Takic Uto Aztecan speakers, the same language family as the Paiute. Since the cave was excavated at a time when archaeology wasn’t as meticulous as it is today and most of what was found is strewn about in collections across the world, we have to rely solely on this article and what the archaeologists found there. Since one of these items was trade beads they dated it to the 1800s and ascribed it to the historic tribe at the time, the Tataviam.
Thats an awesome find, im lucky enough to have a bluff around my families land that still has native paintings on it and we find arrowheads every once and awhile
Rona you are an asshole for complaining about his speech impediment. Unless you know? Don't talk like you do. It doesn't feel good for somebody to be rude to you does it?
That’s the problem with people nowadays there not even Indigenous native Americans and they take what is not there’s that we used centuries ago for ceremonies for personal profit leave things alone. It’s not for you to take and profit. We placed it there for a reason or the families did.
I’m sorry to see so many commenting on your delivery and narration. Making videos like this takes more effort than people realize, and I commend you for it! Keep it up and you will only grow and succeed!
Have read about these artifacts & the cave deposit many years ago. Reportedly the people that owned them secreted them away there & all left the area to never return. Sad, sad, sad. Their culture ended there. Say what you want, but the California native Indians have very little history especially since the 1949 year. Seemed that year ended it. However, there is a unique water jar or canteen showing here. For some unknown reason this native made canteen has never been recognized as such and is usually ignored by referring to it as a basket in general. Just commenting.
open it up, you can get a glimpse of what people found there in the 1950s. the original jar found there is with the scv historical society. there were no artifacts from the cave but still notes from 75 years ago is pretty cool.
Hard to listen to you slobber. Story could all be made up since there aren’t any pics of the actual cache of artifacts. You’re just reading an article about the Ute.
The artifacts were stolen, just like the land was and the true owners are the local indigenous people. It's a discusting discrace how the washishu dismantle the indigenous culture. Picking at the bones like a buzzerd at a carcass .😮
why talk so fast?, sounds like your trying to get through this as fast as possible. great & fascinating subject on our local history. too bad for the poor pictures and horrible narration.
Why would you even think that a museum would get rid of artifacts? They hide more than they ever show
A friends dad donated over 10000 artifacts to a local museum. Almost every single one disappeared. He had an unbelievable collection. I have never seen anything close to as nice as his collection in person or on the internet. They would rotate what was on display every couple months until it was all gone.
Because place like the Smithsonian are known to “lose” things or flat out throw them in a river. Example is bones from the bone yard in Alaska.
@MeatHarmonica maybe the ones that are below average. The better pieces they keep or they end up in archeologists or private collections.
This is a very interesting narration, and a sad commentary on the typical attitudes of those who colonized the Americas, even to recent times. So much of what the native peoples had has been lost or stolen, including (most importantly) their original culture and language. To all those ignorant commenters criticizing the narrator, or worse, making nasty slurs I say shame on them. The narrator clearly has a cleft palate or some similar speech impediment, and I think from his vocal inflection that he is also a native american. I thank him for presenting this story in his own voice.
Thank you. Great job! Fascinating information.
Really good info and presentation. Keep it up
Thank you very much!
Native Americans own the artafacks 😢😢😢
Why talk so fast? If this is true why no pics of the stone artifacts?🤔
I didn’t realize I was talking fast 😅
As for the second part of the question, it was mentioned that the artifacts were dispersed to museums and private collections after they were found, so pictures are rare, such as the one of the collection in the thumbnail. The stone scepter at 1:40 is one of the artifacts that was found in Bowers Cave.
U can slow the speed as u need in settings
Isn't the cave close to Paiute Lake off Hwy 126? My neighbor had a grandmother who was Paiute. I think these could be Paiute items. I've never heard of the Tataviam natives. Do you have any information on how these items were identified?
Thanks for watching! Yes, Bowers Cave is off Highway 126 in north Los Angeles county. The Tataviam are an interesting people since researchers can’t reach a consensus if whether they were related to the Chumash of the coast or Takic Uto Aztecan speakers, the same language family as the Paiute.
Since the cave was excavated at a time when archaeology wasn’t as meticulous as it is today and most of what was found is strewn about in collections across the world, we have to rely solely on this article and what the archaeologists found there. Since one of these items was trade beads they dated it to the 1800s and ascribed it to the historic tribe at the time, the Tataviam.
Thats an awesome find, im lucky enough to have a bluff around my families land that still has native paintings on it and we find arrowheads every once and awhile
Narrator talks too fast and slurs words in a weird monotone. An interesting subject, but almost incomprehensible presentation.
He's got a lisp man give him a break
@@missourimongoose8858If lisp then why talk so fast? Plus no useful pics of find. This looks like a vid for "true believers."
Rona you are an asshole for complaining about his speech impediment.
Unless you know? Don't talk like you do. It doesn't feel good for somebody to be rude to you does it?
@@missourimongoose8858he decided to posted the video
Use the slow down feature of TH-cam
Fascinating but the narration is poor and hard to follow at times.
Very poor execution. Should hire a proper speaker.
This is in-watchable to fast can’t hardly get every third word
1. I can understand just fine. 2. You realize you can edit playback speed?
@@Brokes9 Of course, but should not be necessary.
Interesting topic very poorly presented.
That’s the problem with people nowadays there not even Indigenous native Americans and they take what is not there’s that we used centuries ago for ceremonies for personal profit leave things alone. It’s not for you to take and profit. We placed it there for a reason or the families did.
Interesting video but definitely needs much improvement on the narration
I’m sorry to see so many commenting on your delivery and narration. Making videos like this takes more effort than people realize, and I commend you for it! Keep it up and you will only grow and succeed!
Thank you very much!
The narrator is lousy.
Ca this be a human voice?
They don’t own them 😢
Have read about these artifacts & the cave deposit many years ago. Reportedly the people that owned them secreted them away there & all left the area to never return. Sad, sad, sad. Their culture ended there. Say what you want, but the California native Indians have very little history especially since the 1949 year. Seemed that year ended it. However, there is a unique water jar or canteen showing here. For some unknown reason this native made canteen has never been recognized as such and is usually ignored by referring to it as a basket in general. Just commenting.
open it up, you can get a glimpse of what people found there in the 1950s. the original jar found there is with the scv historical society. there were no artifacts from the cave but still notes from 75 years ago is pretty cool.
Not a communicator ... not even close ... much of subject lost.
An insult to the cave, the original people and obviously, looted.
Presentation was very bad.
Speech training. Get rid of the slushmouth lishp. Speech is intended to communicate, and you're failing.
they were digging sticks
Interesting subject, fascinating info, narrator is a slurring speech mess. He has no future as a lisping public speaker. Too bad.
Hard to listen to you slobber. Story could all be made up since there aren’t any pics of the actual cache of artifacts. You’re just reading an article about the Ute.
The artifacts were stolen, just like the land was and the true owners are the local indigenous people. It's a discusting discrace how the washishu dismantle the indigenous culture. Picking at the bones like a buzzerd at a carcass .😮
Yep, dreadful narrator, I gave up after 28 seconds.
Nice job disguising your speech impediment but why not let someone else do the talking?
Such a lissshp!! Lmao
why talk so fast?, sounds like your trying to get through this as fast as possible. great & fascinating subject on our local history. too bad for the poor pictures and horrible narration.
You stole them items from that cave
Did you even listen? He was reading someone else’s account. There’s no way he could’ve met someone who was around in 1880. Smh