If people come here but are not willing to embrace the culture, which includes hunting, guns, camping, respect of those who hold more traditional views, then please stay where you are. :).
@roberts6950: "If people come here..." What makes you think what he is saying has a "grain of truth?" Further, people don't just move because they have some romantic notion. Thumbs down. This is bullshit.
@@wordswithatwistI'd refrain from using the word "woke" its just nonsense. I'm a progressive myself and believe in gun restrictions for bigger cities, but this doesn't mean that I don't think Guns are necessary especially when you live in places like Montana that have a lot of dangerous wild life. I'm also a supporter of vegans despite not being vegan myself but if you hunt for your food It's different than arguing against the meat industry. Youd 100% call me woke given these descriptions but ultimately as I pointed out it's just a propaganda fueled buzzword to make you disagree with democrats. Majority of democrats share this outlook and those blue haired liberals you guys point at are the minority of the group. If you really want to see what democrats stand for you need to force yourself to step out of your bubble and search for left leaning media or at the very minimum a centrist channel that covers politics. I'm a centrist progressive so personally I get most of my news from channels like Secular talk, David Pakmen, TYT, Adam Mockler, Luke Beasely, Rebel HQ, and Meidastouch which all tend to still criticize Biden even if their content predominantly criticizes the right. That's where you'd find more authentic criticism that isn't just CNN or MSNBC left wing vague media.
@@ScottGrow117, your already on a list Scott. Ever heard of AI? They got lists of everybody. That’s how they control the working man. Read George Orwell’s book 1984.
@@wordswithatwistgood lord. Woke? I support women’s choice, being kind and not being afraid of diversity. Woke is being kind and respectful to others. Such a hateful, bitter attitude with you people who are conservatives. Scary.
High property tax,also you pay tax on your social security check.Alot of states you don't.Winter is eight months of the year.High electric rates,thanks to the public service commission.De-icer they use on the roads in winter eats your cars up with rust.If you don't mind over cast skies for 8 months of the year,come on up.
Property tax under 2% is average for the country not high. Electric rates are under 12 cents per kwh which is low. No sales tax on anything including cars. I live in Kalispell and the last year with a lot of snow was 1997. My snow blower gets used 2-3 times per year since then. @@johnjaco5544
@@johnjaco5544 What are you use to in terms of taxes and electricity rates? I'm thinking of moving to Montana from western washington. You talk about high property taxes, come live here! lol And Montana has electricity rates that are effectively cheaper than western washington (which is already one of the cheapest in the US) because WA has a step up rate, the more you use the higher it costs (Although still really cheap). But Montana's is even cheaper. Want overcast/grey skies for 8+ months? Come visit western washington where it's 40f and raining for 9 months of the year (slight exaggeration). Really though we have 9 months of grey skies and 3 months of good weather (which is recently ruined by smoke from wildfires). Montana looks like a step up in all categories for me except the state income tax...but lack of sales tax and cheaper goods overall, plus way cheaper property taxes makes up for any state income tax.
Im a trucker and I miss going through Montana. The truck stops are fantastic and you get great abundance of peace and quiet. I must have been lucky but I never got beaten down by the weather there.
Montana is nice 5 months a year. This winter 2024 has been sooooo great. I love this winter. We are leaving in August. I don’t like Butte. There are too many mean people. They come in all ages, and sizes. Just waving back to you when you are walking seems to anger most of the people here. The town of Butte is falling apart. Bricks are falling out of the old condemned buildings downtown and in other smaller towns too. Drugs pouring in. It’s too much. We are going back to the southern states, maybe Texas. At least there the people are more fun. The weather isn’t horrible. Good luck. If we were going to do this again, we would have probably tried the Hamilton Area. That is south of Missoula. Look it up. Nicer winters than Butte too. It’s called the Bitteroot Valley Area. Take care.
@@dalepxp8963 I love living near Butte. Ideal in every way for exactly the negative reasons you gave. But, Butte is growing again. Time to look at eastern Montana options like Wolf Point.
Moved to Great Falls back in September, to help a friend with his business. I'm already planning on heading back to North Carolina, this state is not for me at all.
Great Falls gets its name from a stretch on the Missouri River where it drops over 500 feet in a series of rapids and five waterfalls. Big Timber gets its name from Big Timber Creek, which was named by Lewis & Clark because of the large cottonwood trees.
@@HarrisGroupMT Thanks. My wife use to live in Great Falls. She’s a MT native and I’m a WA native. We will be in Libby and Kalispell the end of May and then stop in at Polson
@@Doc1855 95' waterfall outside of town (the Great Falls) that is not advertised, plus Black Eagle Falls, Rainbow Falls, Crooked Falls, plus two more unnamed falls.
I have still have 150 acres in NC and grew up there. Been in Montana since 1990 and not going back! North Carolina has 9 million more humans than it should!
Six years near Kalispell and we love it! Born & raised in western South Dakota and a cowboy at heart. We knew what we were getting into and appreciated the conservative values.
Moved down to Montana from Alaska. No regrets. We love that it does not get dark until after 5pm in December and the winters are much shorter than Alaska. A nice long upland bird/waterfowl hunting season from 1-Sept to mid January. Great gardening in the summer.
Glendive is prairie. Good choice. It too late for average people to move to Bozeman, or Missoula to be honest. Butte has cheaper housing but is all beat up, trashed out, the neighborhoods are full of miserable people. It really is in bad shape.
Apparently, a lot of people can. Several have benefited from equity they are rolling over from a previous home and being a dual income household. If you are looking to buy your first home, it is extra challenging.
Born and raised in Western Montana and wish I had a nickel for every rancher who said they'd never sell out to big developers. Eventually that land became the goldmine that most Montanans need to stay afloat.
Lived just outside Superior (60ish miles north of Missoula), hauled horses frequently to Billings. 2 different worlds, with a bunch of little worlds in between. Love Montana!!!!
Moved to Bozeman. Just wish I knew beforehand that I could have moved into a homeless encampment rather than spend 3k on rent. Nice to know our city government also doesn’t enforce laws just like Cali.
Please have enough sense to do your homework! Wow, it's not Florida or Southern California. It's sparsely populated and it gets cold, who would have thought that.
Montana culture is definitely OUTDOOR. Hunting, fishing, 4x4s and dirt bikes, motorcycles, horseback riding, biking, hiking etc. are what people do in their spare time… plus drinking of course!
Fewer and fewer hunt anymore. Forget fishing due to heat stress on rivers and over fishing. No one rides horses either anymore. Very very few riders. Montana today is more indoor than out.
@@czarwill I've been riding dirt bikes here for 3 days, on some of the most popular trails in the area, and have not run into a single other dirt bike rider. Back home there are 5 trucks with bikes at the trail head mid day on a weekday and 50+ on weekends. It's wild to me that the riding here is so good, and right outside a major city there are so few people getting out and doing it.
I am originally from Texas, married a guy from Colorado. He works in construction and his job is moving him long term to work in Big Sky. They are putting us up in housing in Bozeman the first few years and his pay increase is significant. When we got to visit, just about everyone seemed super friendly which was nice in comparison to what you read on some of the comments on YT and reddit threads, this isn't anything new though you have people here in Colorado and back in Texas that are very vocal about not wanting anymore out of staters moving in. I do think the thing that has me worried the most is back in 2019/2020 when it first came up, if i remember correctly the housing market was very different in MT than what it looks like now. So the timing of when and where to buy is really intimidating.
If you’re not from here or a generational Montana resident you’re not gonna like this state. I’m born and raised in Montana and I love this place but because I know what I have and what I can work with. It’s a certain breed that can survive and appreciate it
I moved here from Florida 30 yrs ago and still like Montana. There are these things called airplanes if you need to go on a vacation but living here is like being on a vacation compared to all the crime
@@77Avadon77 Depends on what you mean by cold? lol.. I'm in SoCal and when it hits 65 degrees, we bust out a light jacket here. It almost never drops below 60 during the day and that is cold to us.
Being from eastern NC and having lived in Wyoming for three years in the 80's and Montana since 1990, we just don't get winter anymore. Wear flip flops most of the year. I miss three foot snow! Well, any snow.
I’ve lived here for 18 years and it is expensive and extremely cold -15 -30 degrees for more than half the year. So if that is not cold for you?…then that is you. Lol
Heck yeah - Winter here in bozeman is amazing if you embrace it. It takes time to slow down when youve come from warmer places but give it and you might come to love it as i have...
@@wowufailatlife I have peeps in Montana and they say it’s the same. Wealthy type buying everything up and bring new regulations and rules that they pay for
My father retired to western Montana exactly fifty years ago,I followed. All of these people moving here from out of state have changed the culture, unfortunately not in a good way. I remember property being less than a dollar an acre,lol. Now since Hollywood and cowboy wannabes have arrived, it’s knocked it out of the ball park for any regular working persons pocketbook. We live in the panhandle now and our property taxes have tripled in just five years. We had a rental that was appraised at $80k twenty years ago , in less than 10 years without improvements, it appraised at $356k in 2010. Go figure. I see only the exclusive wealthy will be able to live in this area and natives who’ve lived here for generations will be forced to move, I hope I’m wrong . Thanks Hollyweird
Montana is not about moving to a fancy bourgeoisie city. If you're not looking to move to somewhere very rural away from others then I really don't know why you're choosing Montana in the first place. Maybe some people just want to be baristas for the rich.
The people buying are buying their second home, airbnb that for 6,000 a month in the summer for 4 months to cover their mortgage to other rich outta staters and staying in it for the ski season. Hence, no where for regular people to stay.
@@curtgomes I’m from Kalispell had to move because of the out of staters. It WAS a Great place to grow up and live. It’s a lot warmer in the winter there than where I moved. They have ruined western Montana. It’s a big sh*t hole with a view. Transients everywhere causing major problems. They urinate wherever. Read in the newspaper, a teenage girl saw one masturbating by a bicycle rack. You know the story, skidrow California. It’s just on a smaller scale. (So far) I moved before all this happened. We just couldn’t go anywhere anymore. All the campsites by all the lakes were overcrowded. And the people coming in are just rude and/or liberal. They say stupid things like “it’s better here than where we came from” and then they turn it into where they came from. And since people are definitely sheep and believe everything they hear, they’ve been listening to the stories that were told how great Montana is. It was great when these rumors started. You could buy an acre of land for $1000. It was affordable if you didn’t know somebody you knew somebody that knew that person. you could hire somebody to do a job and they would do it correctly with a fair price. Now it seems everybody’s incompetent and greedy. Makes you wonder what half ass company you want to call & be overcharged.
true. one of the best descriptions that I've heard of Montana is that it's a small town with really long streets. almost anywhere you go in the state, you'll meet people who you have friends in common with. the hate that some residents throw on anyone who moved here from somewhere else. is shameful.
Sorry to say that since the Vid was produced MT is now full. So if you are from the West Coast don't bother coming here. I hear CO could be more to your liking.
Generally east coast people will never like west coast or even the midwest I think. If you are used to that busy life style with the corner shop and tight housing and the streets buzzing with kids and activities like the old NYC shown in the 50s-60s TV, you will hate the west coast. West coast is huge and spread out. It is not concentrated like the east coast. Even in LA, there are only about 30 high rise buildings, nothing like NYC. If you leave downtown LA, the rest of Los Angeles is just sub urbs and it is vast and empty. You will never get that tight knit neighborhood like the east coast. Life is slow here and the pace is slow.
I’m from Colorado. I went to Philadelphia and I thought it was interesting. Nice place to visit wouldn’t want to stay. It’s just a different lifestyle. I don’t think the two mix very well. I know somebody from New York City that moved to Colorado and she hated it. She couldn’t stand the open space, she couldn’t stand the wide open sky, she even hated the mountains. I thought she had lost her mind. But yet I don’t like skyscrapers, crowds, traffic noise, etc. so you just have to find what works for you.
A big part of the culture here is be kind to those you meet, especially your neighbors, new or old. Another big part is respect the culture and don't try to change it (culture including hunting, guns, a fair amount of Libertarianism (ie, leave me alone), and a relatively traditional view on most things). A lot of people have started jackin' with the second part of that, so the first part has kinda gone out the window for a lot of people. If you move here and respect the culture and don't try to change it, you'll generally be accepted. Although rural towns are especially prickly to move to if you're not native to that area. I've heard a lot of people complain about people here being rude, and my first questions are always: "Where'd you move and did you f with the culture or not agree with the culture?" Not saying that's right or wrong, but that is how it is out here.
Hey man, I decided to visit Montana this weekend because your videos inspired me! As a Canadian, This has to be my favourite state so far (PS: I visited 24/50 states so far)
Thank you for the video! I fell in love with Montana and have been going back every year for the past couple years, and I'm trying to find more info about what its really like to live there. I grew up in a small town in the Midwest so i have no illusions about what its like to live in a rural area and be more self-sufficient. I DO like the winter and cold, so am seriously considering it.
thank you, solid information. We usually drive through Mt and WY every thanksgiving week, beautiful. looking for a small cabin to spend some time, your video has helped. thank you.
@@HarrisGroupMT Having a home is a problem with new property taxes! Homelessness is a solution. 26 years in tipi, always sleep well. Sleep not so well on a home. New old movement: "I don't want what you have."
How are public services? (Let’s say BILLINGS) Water and power? Internet services/Wi-fi, during the winter? Because I hear it gets pretty cold into the minus- weather?
Services are pretty much unaffected however a big storm especially with heavy snow can create disruptions. Overall cold doesn't change water, power, etc.
@HarrisGroupMT - I see. My wife is originally from Billings and she still has family up there. My wife also works remotely, so Internet is vital to her business. She’s trying to convince me to move; but I know your winters are long and brutal. We own a house here in Los Angeles. I love the culture of Montana though; and the fact that it’s a RED state is a huge plus for me. You’ve got great informative content. Thank you. Have a great Memorial Day weekend 🇺🇸👍🏼
Happy to help. I don't think you will regret it. A bad winter is a lot better than LA in my opinion. Feel free to reach out with any questions. I live in Bozeman now but grew up in Billings. Actually in Billings as I type this. I have some great referral partners in Billings to connect you with as well of you need a Realtor. Kyler@harrisgroupre.com
There is so much wrong with this video, I don't really know where to start. I feel like a college professor who is asking for academic journals as resources. I'll be back.
I never figured out what i want to do with my life, im used to rural and quiet, the dive bar exists for passing time on weekends lol. I hear the 90/94 line is decent
It is the second video about "be careful before moving to Montana". When I see the pictures and videos about the nature and the beauty, I was thinking about the idea of having cottages as a working area for all that stressed out desk workers. Bring them their, let them make a kind of holiday office like work and relaxation. I'd love that. But maybe I'm the only one.
@@HarrisGroupMT And maybe a win win for companies and the staff. Concentrated work there in an area that pushes your creativity. Good ideas are not born in dumb offices or conference rooms but in an inspiring and tranquile landscape. And after maybe a few weeks, staff is coming back relaxed and with good ideas. I should do a trip to Montana.
Oh look at how pretty it is, reality, crime is higher than the national average. Oh look how pretty it is, too many people moving here overcrowded in the cities, oh look how pretty it is, cost of living above the national average. Oh look how pretty it is, small skidrow with transients urinating, masturbating out in public, breaking into peoples homes, sleeping in peoples yards, acting crazy with machetes while on drugs, but look how pretty it is. 😂😂
I am retired from the Air Force and I got stationed in Great Falls in 1989. I bought my first house, kept it when I got transferred to New Mexico, and returned after I retired in June 1995. Montana is a wonderful place to live and raise a family. I eventually left only because my wife , of 35 years, passed away and I then got remarried. In this day and age, there are no perfect places but we enjoyed living in Great Falls and Montana. My deceased wife loved Great Falls and Great Falls was a big city by my standards because I grew up in small town of about 24,000 in New Hampshire.
Moving from Phoenix to Montana would be a big cluster flop. Winters in Phoenix are about 60 degrees, winters in Montana are 20 degrees to negative. Visiting Montana in the summer would be bearable, but moving there? Not gonna happen.
Montana is heaven. I’m talking area of Missoula, north to glacier, and thru Idaho to Spokane. One of the best places on earth. Housing was cheap 15yrs ago. Should’ve stayed. Eastern MT sucks. But not as much as Kansas. The land of vast flatness.
@@jeremysworld12 im in Hungry Horse and hate this time of year nothing but countless out of state tourists goi g to Glacier..ugh wish we could build a wall
b and have been more than happy with the culture and welcoming attititude from most residents. of course it helped that my family moved to MIssoula in 1921 and that my grandfather guy Stegner who was a well known track coach. has the field behind sentinel high school named Stegner field after him. so if I was coach's granddaughter, it was okay if I moved here. However, before moving here be aware that out of staters can face a LOT of hostility here.
Don't move. 9 months of winter and nothing to do. Trust me, I did it and hated it. There are other similar states with more to do and not as expensive. Do yourself a favor and save your money.
How much is the apartment one bedroom in Billings, Kalispell or Helena?is the apartment have always one year contract lease? If so, and if you didn't finished the contract what is the condition of the apartment landlords ther3? Thank you
What about Gardiner? Or, is it Gardner 🤔 The town at the northwestern entrance to Yellowstone where you walk or drive through the arch to enter. You did a great job with this video so I’d like to talk. I live on the coast in Alabama. It’s paradise BUT too hot 4 months a year. So, I’m thinking live half there year here and the other half out west with cooler temperatures. How do we get together so I can get your thoughts? Thanks Scott Koehn
Nobody’s listening. I saw on TH-cam news some WOKE MAN with huge hair and all the makeup to go with it trying to get Montana “up to date.” That we were totally backwards not having more of these types in our state. I made the comment that we like it backwards. Why the hell do these “people” think they can come in and they’re making everything better. 😡😡😡 Yes we are so happy that you’re here with your woke liberal bullshit. 🤦♀️
I was offered a software position in Billings Montana. The team was nice, and every Montanans I met, are very kind and respectful people. I love the wilderness and openness with that quiet, but as a Non white person. I couldn't do it. The multiculturalism of large metros was what I need. The company was sad but that was the only thing that was a deal killer for me.
Montana is HUGE and each area is unique in every way. NW Montana is by far the best in almost every way. There is a huge variety of things to see and do up there compared to other areas and it the most scenic as well. Bonus for not being a college town too.
True - I love the Thompson falls, Troy, Libby, Yak areas - so beautiful - but for now I'm in bozeman because I need to make good money... I used to own a bunch of land just outside Troy and I loved it but almost went broke because my line of work was controlled by the good ol boys 😂
Log cabins are a sure bet for flies and mice. Just say never! Deer mice kill more humans via hunta virus than griz, lions, and bison combined. Shipping container is what I park my Jeep in every night to prevent the wiring from being chewed.
We’re going to the Libby area to look around for land to buy in late May. We’ll pay cash for the property and as we can afford to, we’ll put in a basement and footings. Save more money and have Meadow Lark build us a log house. Save more money and have the doors and windows installed. Save up more and have the plumbing and electrical work installed. In 12 years when my wife retires, we’ll sell our $1.1 million dollar home here so we can put our septic system and well in, buy our fixtures and relocate for our retirement years. I retired early and work a few days a week in my profession.
The only "Montana moving" regret I have is TEMPORARILY moving to Missouri to care for my 90 year old mother. I fully intended to move back to Montana after she passed away, but I met a woman, we got married, my mom passed and we moved to Florida. Now I spend 51 weeks a year just waiting to go spend a week back in Superior with my youngest daughter and grandkids.
My wife's family moved to Vaughn, outside of Great Falls, after her son-in-law's military service and we moved from Wisconsin to be by them...Montana SUCKS!! Felt a lot more like the America that I grew up in and love back in Wisconsin!!
HOPEFULLY i'll be moving to MT soon, as long as my interview next week goes well. yes i,m an outsider technically but went to MSU(and fell in love with MT) so I know the Montana lifestyle
@@HarrisGroupMT its a government job! i have always wanted to move somewhere colder and less crowded and the job is an amazing opportunity, but i'm open to multiple cities.
That makes sense. There is a lot of government work in Helena because it is the capital. It is a pretty neat place. Mountains and lakes nearby if you like spending time outdoors. Let me know if you need to be referred to an agent there if you tske the job. Or feel free to reach out with any questions.
Just don't come to Montana, we were fine without you. If you don't like it, leave like when you ran away from the last place you were. Don't stay here and ruin it.
I’m from California. Welcome to out of staters over running your state. Been happening in California for 50 years. I’ve been here now for 16 years. Best move I ever made.
Im a truck driver with a hazmat license. Ive been thinking of moving to montana and would prefer mountains but am ok with rolling prairies as well. Is someone like me likely to still live comfortably? Ultimately id like to somewhat start a little homestead if not at least have a home garden for food.
How would you describe the right place for retirement age people who need amenities and health care services easily available near one's condo residence?
I live in the county in ohio ,I have your same county values .but I was saving $ and found nice 20 acre lots for around $ 40 k ,then after the pandemic property sold out as soon as the lock down was over,then 20 acres is 80 to 130 k ,eastern mt, county property all over the US more than doubled. Im still saving . But I'm getting older
Yes....the western part of Montana is where people should consider moving to. We don't need any slackers..It's hard work, avoiding the tourists in the summer. 😂
Yeah, COVID-19 did this and the realtors made everything high. Yeah, that's why i'm moving back to alaska where it's cheap, very brave cheap two acres for 7 thousand dollars
@kellyreinlasoder2596 this wasn't a video about listing all the cities and towns. I also didn't mention a lot of places in western Montana. Sorry you feel left out. I think most prefer to be overlooked. Lol
@@HarrisGroupMT Not so much that I felt overlooked but I have always noticed how most visit MT commercials and things like this are basically just about Western MT and how it seems Eastern MT ends at Billings or even GreatFalls. Anybody who might move to that part of the states should know it is a lot harder to live in than the Westside. That's all.
Honest question… if wages are below average in MT then why are home prices to astronomically high? I get the supply/demand aspect… but it seems so be a bit wild
@@HarrisGroupMT Then you really should just go build your own house although labor is dramatically expensive. If you can actually build a house yourself then you've got something but that's not easy if you don't have the skill
Went. I live in Louisiana. I'm a retired veteran. I love to rent. I do not want to own. Does Montana have places to rent? I never see anything in any videos about apartments
There are places to rent but they are very expensive and most places do not take pets. A house will be 3500 and up. A room can be as much as 1500 and you can get less than 1000 sq ft for about 2200. You better come with money because you won’t earn it in this state.
Born and raised in Montana. I’ve witnessed this state turn into one giant subdivision. It has been ruined with all the out-of-staters moving here and destroying the land. And that stupid Yellowstone show has made it a whole lot worse.
These videos tend to understate the weather here, winter starts anywhere from sept to oct & can last into Apr, with day highs averages low 30s & sub zero at night, with dys & weeks of -10 to -60. there's really no spring, we go from 30's during the day to 70 degrees or higher the next day. Fall isn't much different going from 70s-80s day & 50s night one day to 30s to low 40s days & single digits or sub zero nights. These videos also tend to downplay the hunting & gun culture here in MT. Hunting, if it's off season for big game, birds or furbears, then predator hunting is going on. From coyotes & raccoons to rabbits, hunting is yr round here in MT. Gun culture, things have changed since passing permitless carry 3 yrs ago, use to be you saw open carry everywhere, not so much since the passing of the permitless carry. But understand here in MT, even if you don't see the firearm assume everyone is carrying, so don't be surprised going into a WAL-Mart & seeing someone carrying a firearm. MT is a complicated state, from politics to social issues & everything in between. MT is setup for you to succeed, but also setup for you to fail.
The wages here are MUCH better than they are in the south. I went from $7 and hour to $20. My husbands pay increased by about 40,000 a year so I guess that depends on where you’re moving from.
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If people come here but are not willing to embrace the culture, which includes hunting, guns, camping, respect of those who hold more traditional views, then please stay where you are. :).
@roberts6950: "If people come here..." What makes you think what he is saying has a "grain of truth?"
Further, people don't just move because they have some romantic notion.
Thumbs down. This is bullshit.
@@wordswithatwist I wish we could do something about it, but all the solutions I can think of will get me put on a list.
@@wordswithatwistI'd refrain from using the word "woke" its just nonsense. I'm a progressive myself and believe in gun restrictions for bigger cities, but this doesn't mean that I don't think Guns are necessary especially when you live in places like Montana that have a lot of dangerous wild life. I'm also a supporter of vegans despite not being vegan myself but if you hunt for your food It's different than arguing against the meat industry. Youd 100% call me woke given these descriptions but ultimately as I pointed out it's just a propaganda fueled buzzword to make you disagree with democrats. Majority of democrats share this outlook and those blue haired liberals you guys point at are the minority of the group. If you really want to see what democrats stand for you need to force yourself to step out of your bubble and search for left leaning media or at the very minimum a centrist channel that covers politics. I'm a centrist progressive so personally I get most of my news from channels like Secular talk, David Pakmen, TYT, Adam Mockler, Luke Beasely, Rebel HQ, and Meidastouch which all tend to still criticize Biden even if their content predominantly criticizes the right. That's where you'd find more authentic criticism that isn't just CNN or MSNBC left wing vague media.
@@ScottGrow117, your already on a list Scott. Ever heard of AI? They got lists of everybody. That’s how they control the working man. Read George Orwell’s book 1984.
@@wordswithatwistgood lord. Woke? I support women’s choice, being kind and not being afraid of diversity. Woke is being kind and respectful to others. Such a hateful, bitter attitude with you people who are conservatives. Scary.
Let's not forget Montana's "Personal Property" tax too. Just because they don't have a sales tax, don't mean they don't tax you.
High property tax,also you pay tax on your social security check.Alot of states you don't.Winter is eight months of the year.High electric rates,thanks to the public service commission.De-icer they use on the roads in winter eats your cars up with rust.If you don't mind over cast skies for 8 months of the year,come on up.
@johnjaco5544
Nothing new to me. I grew up in New England, and I lived in Sheridan, Wyoming for over 20yrs. 🤠
Property tax under 2% is average for the country not high. Electric rates are under 12 cents per kwh which is low. No sales tax on anything including cars. I live in Kalispell and the last year with a lot of snow was 1997. My snow blower gets used 2-3 times per year since then. @@johnjaco5544
@@johnjaco5544lmao none of that is true
@@johnjaco5544 What are you use to in terms of taxes and electricity rates? I'm thinking of moving to Montana from western washington. You talk about high property taxes, come live here! lol And Montana has electricity rates that are effectively cheaper than western washington (which is already one of the cheapest in the US) because WA has a step up rate, the more you use the higher it costs (Although still really cheap). But Montana's is even cheaper.
Want overcast/grey skies for 8+ months? Come visit western washington where it's 40f and raining for 9 months of the year (slight exaggeration). Really though we have 9 months of grey skies and 3 months of good weather (which is recently ruined by smoke from wildfires).
Montana looks like a step up in all categories for me except the state income tax...but lack of sales tax and cheaper goods overall, plus way cheaper property taxes makes up for any state income tax.
Im a trucker and I miss going through Montana. The truck stops are fantastic and you get great abundance of peace and quiet. I must have been lucky but I never got beaten down by the weather there.
Montana is nice 5 months a year. This winter 2024 has been sooooo great. I love this winter. We are leaving in August. I don’t like Butte. There are too many mean people. They come in all ages, and sizes. Just waving back to you when you are walking seems to anger most of the people here. The town of Butte is falling apart. Bricks are falling out of the old condemned buildings downtown and in other smaller towns too. Drugs pouring in. It’s too much. We are going back to the southern states, maybe Texas. At least there the people are more fun. The weather isn’t horrible. Good luck. If we were going to do this again, we would have probably tried the Hamilton Area. That is south of Missoula. Look it up. Nicer winters than Butte too. It’s called the Bitteroot Valley Area. Take care.
@@dalepxp8963 I love living near Butte. Ideal in every way for exactly the negative reasons you gave. But, Butte is growing again. Time to look at eastern Montana options like Wolf Point.
Moved to Great Falls back in September, to help a friend with his business. I'm already planning on heading back to North Carolina, this state is not for me at all.
Why do they call it Great Falls when there are no falls?
And Big Timber, MT doesn’t have any trees.
It’s so misleading
Great Falls gets its name from a stretch on the Missouri River where it drops over 500 feet in a series of rapids and five waterfalls.
Big Timber gets its name from Big Timber Creek, which was named by Lewis & Clark because of the large cottonwood trees.
@@HarrisGroupMT Thanks.
My wife use to live in Great Falls.
She’s a MT native and I’m a WA native.
We will be in Libby and Kalispell the end of May and then stop in at Polson
@@Doc1855 95' waterfall outside of town (the Great Falls) that is not advertised, plus Black Eagle Falls, Rainbow Falls, Crooked Falls, plus two more unnamed falls.
I have still have 150 acres in NC and grew up there. Been in Montana since 1990 and not going back! North Carolina has 9 million more humans than it should!
Six years near Kalispell and we love it! Born & raised in western South Dakota and a cowboy at heart. We knew what we were getting into and appreciated the conservative values.
Such an amazing part of MT
Moved down to Montana from Alaska. No regrets. We love that it does not get dark until after 5pm in December and the winters are much shorter than Alaska. A nice long upland bird/waterfowl hunting season from 1-Sept to mid January. Great gardening in the summer.
So glad you love it here. What part of Montana did you end up?
@@HarrisGroupMT Glendive
but any winter would be shorter than alaska...
Glendive is prairie. Good choice. It too late for average people to move to Bozeman, or Missoula to be honest. Butte has cheaper housing but is all beat up, trashed out, the neighborhoods are full of miserable people. It really is in bad shape.
@@RetrieverTrainingAlone 😂😂😂😂
Who can afford $800,000. The median income in this country is what 60,000. Where is all the money coming from?
Apparently, a lot of people can. Several have benefited from equity they are rolling over from a previous home and being a dual income household. If you are looking to buy your first home, it is extra challenging.
More than 50% of all houses in the US are owned by corporations and foreign investors.
Kalifornia
Born and raised in Western Montana and wish I had a nickel for every rancher who said they'd never sell out to big developers. Eventually that land became the goldmine that most Montanans need to stay afloat.
Montana's do not like out of staters. Stay away
Lived just outside Superior (60ish miles north of Missoula), hauled horses frequently to Billings. 2 different worlds, with a bunch of little worlds in between. Love Montana!!!!
Yup.
Montana's not worth moving to definitely do not move to montana. No matter where you live in montana it is horrible 💯
Moved to Bozeman. Just wish I knew beforehand that I could have moved into a homeless encampment rather than spend 3k on rent. Nice to know our city government also doesn’t enforce laws just like Cali.
Surprise! Hopefully that changes soon.
City counsel wants to extend the 5 days they don’t enforce to 30 days.
Stay away from Bozeman and Missoula. College towns draw all the marxists.
This problem exists in EVERY state. Being able to afford a place to live is becoming impossible. America needs a BIG CHANGE.
@@Miami7 Bozeman is different vs the surrounding towns in allowing flagrant disregard for rules regarding camping on city streets.
Please have enough sense to do your homework! Wow, it's not Florida or Southern California. It's sparsely populated and it gets cold, who would have thought that.
It's a beautiful state.... to visit, but living there is definitely not for me...
Montana definitely isn't for everyone. Where do you live now?
I lived in Alaska for a few years in a remote area. Montana seems like easy mode.
Alaska is no joke
Montana culture is definitely OUTDOOR. Hunting, fishing, 4x4s and dirt bikes, motorcycles, horseback riding, biking, hiking etc. are what people do in their spare time… plus drinking of course!
#Facts
Fewer and fewer hunt anymore. Forget fishing due to heat stress on rivers and over fishing. No one rides horses either anymore. Very very few riders. Montana today is more indoor than out.
@@czarwill I've been riding dirt bikes here for 3 days, on some of the most popular trails in the area, and have not run into a single other dirt bike rider. Back home there are 5 trucks with bikes at the trail head mid day on a weekday and 50+ on weekends. It's wild to me that the riding here is so good, and right outside a major city there are so few people getting out and doing it.
@OtisFlint I love riding dirt bikes here. We are all really spread out
I am originally from Texas, married a guy from Colorado. He works in construction and his job is moving him long term to work in Big Sky. They are putting us up in housing in Bozeman the first few years and his pay increase is significant. When we got to visit, just about everyone seemed super friendly which was nice in comparison to what you read on some of the comments on YT and reddit threads, this isn't anything new though you have people here in Colorado and back in Texas that are very vocal about not wanting anymore out of staters moving in. I do think the thing that has me worried the most is back in 2019/2020 when it first came up, if i remember correctly the housing market was very different in MT than what it looks like now. So the timing of when and where to buy is really intimidating.
If you’re not from here or a generational Montana resident you’re not gonna like this state. I’m born and raised in Montana and I love this place but because I know what I have and what I can work with. It’s a certain breed that can survive and appreciate it
I moved here from Florida 30 yrs ago and still like Montana. There are these things called airplanes if you need to go on a vacation but living here is like being on a vacation compared to all the crime
Glad you are still liking MT
I am a generational Montanan also. I am not happy with these people who move here with tons of money and then change it. That isn’t what we are about.
@@nicoleorta9569totally agree! I’m glad our winters run a lot of people out.
@@HarrisGroupMTabsolutely you make extremely valid points in this video. Well said!
Lived in Montana 17 years. Bozeman cheap house 500,000 ! Very expensive to live there. Really Really cold!
It's not very cold at all.
@@77Avadon77 Depends on what you mean by cold? lol.. I'm in SoCal and when it hits 65 degrees, we bust out a light jacket here. It almost never drops below 60 during the day and that is cold to us.
@@musingsofrock right but for the vast majority of the pacific nw Montana is just normal temperature.
Being from eastern NC and having lived in Wyoming for three years in the 80's and Montana since 1990, we just don't get winter anymore. Wear flip flops most of the year. I miss three foot snow! Well, any snow.
I’ve lived here for 18 years and it is expensive and extremely cold -15 -30 degrees for more than half the year. So if that is not cold for you?…then that is you. Lol
Heck yeah - Winter here in bozeman is amazing if you embrace it. It takes time to slow down when youve come from warmer places but give it and you might come to love it as i have...
😂😂😂😂 I’m from Colorado, welcome to the hell of being over run by out of staters
You're a trend setter. Lol
@@HarrisGroupMT wish to God we weren’t
Same here. Hard to watch the change some times, but it is inevitable. Got to make the best of it.
Seeing Colorado being taken over and developing all around me. Montana seems the only answer eventually.
@@wowufailatlife I have peeps in Montana and they say it’s the same. Wealthy type buying everything up and bring new regulations and rules that they pay for
So connect the dots between the $700,000 home in Montana and the lower than average wages in Montana?
Its a challenge for sure
My father retired to western Montana exactly fifty years ago,I followed. All of these people moving here from out of state have changed the culture, unfortunately not in a good way. I remember property being less than a dollar an acre,lol. Now since Hollywood and cowboy wannabes have arrived, it’s knocked it out of the ball park for any regular working persons pocketbook. We live in the panhandle now and our property taxes have tripled in just five years. We had a rental that was appraised at $80k twenty years ago , in less than 10 years without improvements, it appraised at $356k in 2010. Go figure. I see only the exclusive wealthy will be able to live in this area and natives who’ve lived here for generations will be forced to move, I hope I’m wrong . Thanks Hollyweird
@@Belyndathat's everywhere now!!
Montana is not about moving to a fancy bourgeoisie city. If you're not looking to move to somewhere very rural away from others then I really don't know why you're choosing Montana in the first place. Maybe some people just want to be baristas for the rich.
The people buying are buying their second home, airbnb that for 6,000 a month in the summer for 4 months to cover their mortgage to other rich outta staters and staying in it for the ski season. Hence, no where for regular people to stay.
You will hate Montana. It's so damn cold. You have to be rich to live in Montana. No jobs. Rent is too high. Not enough rentals.
My friend candidly told me that he moved to Kalispel a few years ago and is having trouble adjusting to the abject coldl
@@curtgomes I’m from Kalispell had to move because of the out of staters. It WAS a Great place to grow up and live. It’s a lot warmer in the winter there than where I moved. They have ruined western Montana. It’s a big sh*t hole with a view. Transients everywhere causing major problems. They urinate wherever. Read in the newspaper, a teenage girl saw one masturbating by a bicycle rack. You know the story, skidrow California. It’s just on a smaller scale. (So far)
I moved before all this happened. We just couldn’t go anywhere anymore. All the campsites by all the lakes were overcrowded. And the people coming in are just rude and/or liberal. They say stupid things like “it’s better here than where we came from” and then they turn it into where they came from.
And since people are definitely sheep and believe everything they hear, they’ve been listening to the stories that were told how great Montana is. It was great when these rumors started. You could buy an acre of land for $1000. It was affordable if you didn’t know somebody you knew somebody that knew that person. you could hire somebody to do a job and they would do it correctly with a fair price. Now it seems everybody’s incompetent and greedy. Makes you wonder what half ass company you want to call & be overcharged.
One thing the people who move to Montana that never going to regret is, meeting great, nice, and honest people like you.
Thank you
Awww. Thank you
true. one of the best descriptions that I've heard of Montana is that it's a small town with really long streets. almost anywhere you go in the state, you'll meet people who you have friends in common with. the hate that some residents throw on anyone who moved here from somewhere else. is shameful.
Sorry to say that since the Vid was produced MT is now full. So if you are from the West Coast don't bother coming here. I hear CO could be more to your liking.
Where did you move to Montana from?
That’s good advice, don’t come here!
Montana has been full for 40 years.
I want to Denver that didn't work either. We went back to Philadelphia and it's no problem.
Generally east coast people will never like west coast or even the midwest I think. If you are used to that busy life style with the corner shop and tight housing and the streets buzzing with kids and activities like the old NYC shown in the 50s-60s TV, you will hate the west coast. West coast is huge and spread out. It is not concentrated like the east coast. Even in LA, there are only about 30 high rise buildings, nothing like NYC. If you leave downtown LA, the rest of Los Angeles is just sub urbs and it is vast and empty. You will never get that tight knit neighborhood like the east coast. Life is slow here and the pace is slow.
I’m from Colorado. I went to Philadelphia and I thought it was interesting. Nice place to visit wouldn’t want to stay. It’s just a different lifestyle. I don’t think the two mix very well. I know somebody from New York City that moved to Colorado and she hated it. She couldn’t stand the open space, she couldn’t stand the wide open sky, she even hated the mountains. I thought she had lost her mind. But yet I don’t like skyscrapers, crowds, traffic noise, etc. so you just have to find what works for you.
A big part of the culture here is be kind to those you meet, especially your neighbors, new or old. Another big part is respect the culture and don't try to change it (culture including hunting, guns, a fair amount of Libertarianism (ie, leave me alone), and a relatively traditional view on most things). A lot of people have started jackin' with the second part of that, so the first part has kinda gone out the window for a lot of people. If you move here and respect the culture and don't try to change it, you'll generally be accepted. Although rural towns are especially prickly to move to if you're not native to that area. I've heard a lot of people complain about people here being rude, and my first questions are always: "Where'd you move and did you f with the culture or not agree with the culture?" Not saying that's right or wrong, but that is how it is out here.
Hey man, I decided to visit Montana this weekend because your videos inspired me!
As a Canadian, This has to be my favourite state so far (PS: I visited 24/50 states so far)
That's awesome! What part of Montana are you checking out?
Thank you for the video! I fell in love with Montana and have been going back every year for the past couple years, and I'm trying to find more info about what its really like to live there. I grew up in a small town in the Midwest so i have no illusions about what its like to live in a rural area and be more self-sufficient. I DO like the winter and cold, so am seriously considering it.
Feel free to reach out with any questions. Thanks for watching
thank you, solid information. We usually drive through Mt and WY every thanksgiving week, beautiful. looking for a small cabin to spend some time, your video has helped. thank you.
I didn't know houses in Montana were that expensive. Great info.
They have climbed rapidly since covid
@@HarrisGroupMT Having a home is a problem with new property taxes! Homelessness is a solution. 26 years in tipi, always sleep well. Sleep not so well on a home. New old movement: "I don't want what you have."
Called supply and demand.
Doing homework, thank you.
You're welcome, Tom. How can I help you?
How are public services? (Let’s say BILLINGS) Water and power? Internet services/Wi-fi, during the winter? Because I hear it gets pretty cold into the minus- weather?
Services are pretty much unaffected however a big storm especially with heavy snow can create disruptions. Overall cold doesn't change water, power, etc.
@HarrisGroupMT - I see. My wife is originally from Billings and she still has family up there. My wife also works remotely, so Internet is vital to her business. She’s trying to convince me to move; but I know your winters are long and brutal. We own a house here in Los Angeles. I love the culture of Montana though; and the fact that it’s a RED state is a huge plus for me.
You’ve got great informative content. Thank you. Have a great Memorial Day weekend 🇺🇸👍🏼
Happy to help. I don't think you will regret it. A bad winter is a lot better than LA in my opinion. Feel free to reach out with any questions. I live in Bozeman now but grew up in Billings. Actually in Billings as I type this. I have some great referral partners in Billings to connect you with as well of you need a Realtor.
Kyler@harrisgroupre.com
Thank you.
It used to be good to move states, welcomed even. Things are so tense rn
Top paying jobs in Montana: 1.Physician 2. Real Estate Agent
Don’t forget lawyers, bar tender and pawnshop owners!
@@garysgarageusa6477 bartenders and pawn shop owners. 😂😂😂😂
There is so much wrong with this video, I don't really know where to start.
I feel like a college professor who is asking for academic journals as resources.
I'll be back.
I never figured out what i want to do with my life, im used to rural and quiet, the dive bar exists for passing time on weekends lol. I hear the 90/94 line is decent
Nothing wrong with rural and quiet
@@HarrisGroupMT nothing at all, which is how I like it
It is the second video about "be careful before moving to Montana". When I see the pictures and videos about the nature and the beauty, I was thinking about the idea of having cottages as a working area for all that stressed out desk workers. Bring them their, let them make a kind of holiday office like work and relaxation. I'd love that. But maybe I'm the only one.
That sounds like a neat idea to me. Good internet and a nice work area. Kind of a niche vacation rental type of thing
@@HarrisGroupMT And maybe a win win for companies and the staff. Concentrated work there in an area that pushes your creativity. Good ideas are not born in dumb offices or conference rooms but in an inspiring and tranquile landscape. And after maybe a few weeks, staff is coming back relaxed and with good ideas. I should do a trip to Montana.
Be sure to take a trip in February so you get an idea of what it's really like, rather than glorified pretty pictures you see on the internet.
Oh look at how pretty it is,
reality, crime is higher than the national average. Oh look how pretty it is, too many people moving here overcrowded in the cities, oh look how pretty it is, cost of living above the national average. Oh look how pretty it is, small skidrow with transients urinating, masturbating out in public, breaking into peoples homes, sleeping in peoples yards, acting crazy with machetes while on drugs, but look how pretty it is. 😂😂
Montana don’t like people coming to change things hit the road we don’t want you’
Left Mt 21 years ago, best decision I ever made.
I am retired from the Air Force and I got stationed in Great Falls in 1989. I bought my first house, kept it when I got transferred to New Mexico, and returned after I retired in June 1995. Montana is a wonderful place to live and raise a family. I eventually left only because my wife , of 35 years, passed away and I then got remarried. In this day and age, there are no perfect places but we enjoyed living in Great Falls and Montana. My deceased wife loved Great Falls and Great Falls was a big city by my standards because I grew up in small town of about 24,000 in New Hampshire.
Moving from Phoenix to Montana would be a big cluster flop. Winters in Phoenix are about 60 degrees, winters in Montana are 20 degrees to negative. Visiting Montana in the summer would be bearable, but moving there? Not gonna happen.
Moved to Montana from Alabama 9 years ago. It’s the best decision we ever made. We live in Ennis.
So glad you like it here. What a beautiful area.
Montana is heaven. I’m talking area of Missoula, north to glacier, and thru Idaho to Spokane. One of the best places on earth. Housing was cheap 15yrs ago. Should’ve stayed. Eastern MT sucks. But not as much as Kansas. The land of vast flatness.
VISIT MONTANA. DON'T MOVE HERE HEAD TO TEXAS.....
Where did you move to Montana from? Or are you born and raised here?
well said
Yeah only tough people live here in Montana.. not poser out of staters
@@jeremysworld12 im in Hungry Horse and hate this time of year nothing but countless out of state tourists goi g to Glacier..ugh wish we could build a wall
@@codybmercer you are telling me.. they think they own everything I don’t personally put up with it and it’s funny because they are all so passive lol
I'll be moving to Montana soon.
Going to be a dental floss tycoon.
I moved here 3 years ago. One of the biggest shocks is making $11 hour- and that's considered a normal wage.
b and have been more than happy with the culture and welcoming attititude from most residents. of course it helped that my family moved to MIssoula in 1921 and that my grandfather guy Stegner who was a well known track coach. has the field behind sentinel high school named Stegner field after him. so if I was coach's granddaughter, it was okay if I moved here. However, before moving here be aware that out of staters can face a LOT of hostility here.
Pretty good information.
Don't move. 9 months of winter and nothing to do. Trust me, I did it and hated it. There are other similar states with more to do and not as expensive. Do yourself a favor and save your money.
MT definitely isn't for everyone
How much is the apartment one bedroom in Billings, Kalispell or Helena?is the apartment have always one year contract lease? If so, and if you didn't finished the contract what is the condition of the apartment landlords ther3? Thank you
What about Gardiner? Or, is it Gardner 🤔 The town at the northwestern entrance to Yellowstone where you walk or drive through the arch to enter. You did a great job with this video so I’d like to talk. I live on the coast in Alabama. It’s paradise BUT too hot 4 months a year. So, I’m thinking live half there year here and the other half out west with cooler temperatures.
How do we get together so I can get your thoughts? Thanks
Scott Koehn
Would love to chat.
Kyler@harrisgroupre.com
The problem is the wages their don't compensate for the price of housing
Don’t move to Montana, if you want it to change. We like it the way it is.
Nobody’s listening. I saw on TH-cam news some WOKE MAN with huge hair and all the makeup to go with it trying to get Montana “up to date.” That we were totally backwards not having more of these types in our state. I made the comment that we like it backwards.
Why the hell do these “people” think they can come in and they’re making everything better. 😡😡😡
Yes we are so happy that you’re here with your woke liberal bullshit. 🤦♀️
I was offered a software position in Billings Montana. The team was nice, and every Montanans I met, are very kind and respectful people.
I love the wilderness and openness with that quiet, but as a Non white person. I couldn't do it. The multiculturalism of large metros was what I need. The company was sad but that was the only thing that was a deal killer for me.
So in other words if you are not rich don’t bother.
Winters in Missoula were easy going compared to winters in WY...for the most part.
I’m in maine and I’m dreaming of moving here but boy was this video a wake up call😅
MT is a HUGE state. There are some areas you would like and probably some you wouldn't. Feel free to reach out and talk it through.
Montana is HUGE and each area is unique in every way. NW Montana is by far the best in almost every way. There is a huge variety of things to see and do up there compared to other areas and it the most scenic as well. Bonus for not being a college town too.
True - I love the Thompson falls, Troy, Libby, Yak areas - so beautiful - but for now I'm in bozeman because I need to make good money... I used to own a bunch of land just outside Troy and I loved it but almost went broke because my line of work was controlled by the good ol boys 😂
Same thing happened to Oregon The Californians moved in & sent housing through the roof I left in 2000 & went to Alaska 😎🍻
Y’all forget when everyone moved to California from every single state and country.
We are doing it!
Doing what?
No don’t move here we don’t want more out of state people here thanks though
Great now you live in Montana, jokes on you.
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Great points.
It has to be in the mountains log cabin away from society
Why would you move all the way up to Montana just to move to a city. That makes no sense to me.
Log cabins are a sure bet for flies and mice. Just say never! Deer mice kill more humans via hunta virus than griz, lions, and bison combined. Shipping container is what I park my Jeep in every night to prevent the wiring from being chewed.
I'm intrigued by the huge ranches with thousands of acres, but probably nice to look at, but not live there.
We’re going to the Libby area to look around for land to buy in late May.
We’ll pay cash for the property and as we can afford to, we’ll put in a basement and footings. Save more money and have Meadow Lark build us a log house. Save more money and have the doors and windows installed. Save up more and have the plumbing and electrical work installed.
In 12 years when my wife retires, we’ll sell our $1.1 million dollar home here so we can put our septic system and well in, buy our fixtures and relocate for our retirement years.
I retired early and work a few days a week in my profession.
Congratulations
The only "Montana moving" regret I have is TEMPORARILY moving to Missouri to care for my 90 year old mother. I fully intended to move back to Montana after she passed away, but I met a woman, we got married, my mom passed and we moved to Florida. Now I spend 51 weeks a year just waiting to go spend a week back in Superior with my youngest daughter and grandkids.
My wife's family moved to Vaughn, outside of Great Falls, after her son-in-law's military service and we moved from Wisconsin to be by them...Montana SUCKS!! Felt a lot more like the America that I grew up in and love back in Wisconsin!!
Lived in virginai city, outside of ennis...wonderful & off the beaten path.😮
Funny how wages can be behind the national averages, yet housing is so ridiculously expensive.
HOPEFULLY i'll be moving to MT soon, as long as my interview next week goes well. yes i,m an outsider technically but went to MSU(and fell in love with MT) so I know the Montana lifestyle
Congratulations! Good luck with the interview. How can I help with your move back to MT?
Same thing happened to Utah. 😢
this video was awesome! and provided a ton of information! i'm looking at moving to montana from georgia (so a very big change haha)
Big change indeed. Glad you enjoyed the video. How can I help?
@@HarrisGroupMT i was looking at work in helena, but have never been! how would you say the pace of living is?
In general, in MT, the pace of living is nice and slow. What kind of work are you looking for? What is attracting you to Helena?
@@HarrisGroupMT its a government job! i have always wanted to move somewhere colder and less crowded and the job is an amazing opportunity, but i'm open to multiple cities.
That makes sense. There is a lot of government work in Helena because it is the capital. It is a pretty neat place. Mountains and lakes nearby if you like spending time outdoors. Let me know if you need to be referred to an agent there if you tske the job. Or feel free to reach out with any questions.
Just don't come to Montana, we were fine without you. If you don't like it, leave like when you ran away from the last place you were. Don't stay here and ruin it.
I’m from California. Welcome to out of staters over running your state. Been happening in California for 50 years. I’ve been here now for 16 years. Best move I ever made.
Im a truck driver with a hazmat license. Ive been thinking of moving to montana and would prefer mountains but am ok with rolling prairies as well. Is someone like me likely to still live comfortably? Ultimately id like to somewhat start a little homestead if not at least have a home garden for food.
If you can afford a million bucks for a house.
@@scottulrich2725 maybe in Bozeman but seems like other parts are still similar price to other large cities
There are lots of truck drivers living in MT. Somewhere like Billings could be a good option with the refineries. Feel free to reach out.
Heat, cold, bugs, wind, drugs, criminals.
Many of the comments here and the prices stated to live there, has convinced me to listen, and not go there.
Move to Detroit. You'll love montana
How would you describe the right place for retirement age people who need amenities and health care services easily available near one's condo residence?
This will vary by market. Billings, Bozeman, and Missoula would most likely be the best three cities. It will depend a bit on specific needs though.
@@HarrisGroupMT someone told me that there is a medical clinic in Montana where many Canadians are referred for knee replacement surgery.
@@HarrisGroupMT How bad is the drug and homeless situation getting in those cities right now?
Kalispell, Bigfork 100%!
@@mf-db6nm 100% regarding what??
I live in the county in ohio ,I have your same county values .but I was saving $ and found nice 20 acre lots for around $ 40 k ,then after the pandemic property sold out as soon as the lock down was over,then 20 acres is 80 to 130 k ,eastern mt, county property all over the US more than doubled. Im still saving . But I'm getting older
you have a kind face, good vid!
Yes....the western part of Montana is where people should consider moving to. We don't need any slackers..It's hard work, avoiding the tourists in the summer. 😂
Yeah, COVID-19 did this and the realtors made everything high. Yeah, that's why i'm moving back to alaska where it's cheap, very brave cheap two acres for 7 thousand dollars
As usual. Eastern Montana is completrly ignored!😢
I actually mentioned eastern Montana a few times in the video.
@@HarrisGroupMT Miles City? Glendive? Glasgow? Wolf Point? Makoshika State Park? Fort Peck Dam and reservoir? I must have missed those. 🤨
@kellyreinlasoder2596 this wasn't a video about listing all the cities and towns. I also didn't mention a lot of places in western Montana. Sorry you feel left out. I think most prefer to be overlooked. Lol
@@HarrisGroupMT Not so much that I felt overlooked but I have always noticed how most visit MT commercials and things like this are basically just about Western MT and how it seems Eastern MT ends at Billings or even GreatFalls. Anybody who might move to that part of the states should know it is a lot harder to live in than the Westside. That's all.
So you're saying I should make an "Eastern Montana Sucks" video? 🤣
Honest question… if wages are below average in MT then why are home prices to astronomically high? I get the supply/demand aspect… but it seems so be a bit wild
It's 100% supply and demand. More people want to live here than houses are built
@@HarrisGroupMT Then you really should just go build your own house although labor is dramatically expensive. If you can actually build a house yourself then you've got something but that's not easy if you don't have the skill
People from out of state with money thinks prices are a good deal.
Virtual workers from CA with inflated salaries.
@@johnjaco5544Not sure why this is so difficult for people to understand.
Is land expensive? cuz I'm not paying 50k cad for 50 acres😭
It depends on where you are looking in Montana. Some places land is very expensive, some places it is very cheap. Its all about location
I want to move somewhere gonna be a forest stranger
Went. I live in Louisiana. I'm a retired veteran. I love to rent. I do not want to own. Does Montana have places to rent? I never see anything in any videos about apartments
There are places to rent but they are very expensive and most places do not take pets. A house will be 3500 and up. A room can be as much as 1500 and you can get less than 1000 sq ft for about 2200. You better come with money because you won’t earn it in this state.
Just don’t move here. All these out of staters are jacking up everything especially housing.
Riding dirtbikes, I love, I want, I will! MONTANAAAA!!
Braap braap!
higher cost of living with lower wages
Born and raised in Montana. I’ve witnessed this state turn into one giant subdivision. It has been ruined with all the out-of-staters moving here and destroying the land. And that stupid Yellowstone show has made it a whole lot worse.
These videos tend to understate the weather here, winter starts anywhere from sept to oct & can last into Apr, with day highs averages low 30s & sub zero at night, with dys & weeks of -10 to -60. there's really no spring, we go from 30's during the day to 70 degrees or higher the next day. Fall isn't much different going from 70s-80s day & 50s night one day to 30s to low 40s days & single digits or sub zero nights.
These videos also tend to downplay the hunting & gun culture here in MT. Hunting, if it's off season for big game, birds or furbears, then predator hunting is going on. From coyotes & raccoons to rabbits, hunting is yr round here in MT.
Gun culture, things have changed since passing permitless carry 3 yrs ago, use to be you saw open carry everywhere, not so much since the passing of the permitless carry. But understand here in MT, even if you don't see the firearm assume everyone is carrying, so don't be surprised going into a WAL-Mart & seeing someone carrying a firearm.
MT is a complicated state, from politics to social issues & everything in between. MT is setup for you to succeed, but also setup for you to fail.
It’s called a rouge state and we don’t like liberals!
I'm sorry to hear you're being inundated with people who don' know what they're doing or want to transform it into CA.
I think home affordability is a problem all over the country these days.
It has tripled here in ten years. Most places have not experienced that.
What is better montana or west virginia,?
Depends on how you define better, I suppose
NW Montana if you can afford it.
Houses in Montana are 5x the price...there is a reason for that. Actually, many reasons.
Housing prices in Cheyenne? Maybe cheaper than the high end millions?
Thinking of selling our cattle ranch in Central Oregon to go to Eastern Montana.
The wages here are MUCH better than they are in the south. I went from $7 and hour to $20. My husbands pay increased by about 40,000 a year so I guess that depends on where you’re moving from.
True. Also we have seen a lot of movement in wages recently.
Sorry Montana is full
All the rich ppl moving here changing our way of life and out pricing real generational Montanans is getting really old!