People understand tamilnadu is not chennai to Kanyakumari in old periods, kalinga (now part of west bengal) to Kanyakumari and srilanka too... Imagine how many rivers in ancient periods without dam . You need learn about tamilians read the king chera ,the king chola ,the king pandya, the king pallavas. He say all ancient truths.
@@ക്ഷത്രിയൻ-ഝ6ഡ of course it will. Its nature right, because of the climate, atmosphere. But when comes to culture i think kerala follows many things from tamil people. Once i went to south india trip, i visited lot of archeological and historical places. Then only i came to know tamil is the oldest living language also it is the mother of malayala kanada telugu. Also i heard a interesting thing that kerala girls like tamil boys and it makes the best pair. How beautiful. You guys are like father and children states
@simba1050 its not becuase of climate, its called genetics, by climate its skin tan like getting more sun lights to skin... You can see andhrapradesh peoples, there more hot climate than tamil nadu but they are more fair than tamil peoples, and you said about kerala girls its totally in your dream, the 95% kerala girls not even thinking about tamil boys, becuase they have enough selection here, some girls are fall in love to tamil boys becuase of their regular meet in office or collage, thats also happens to kerala boys and tamil girls... Its happening in all states my friend lover is a gujarati girl, its usual.. And tamil boys are fans of kerala girls, you can see in many youtube chanels tamil boys telling about kerala girls, but kerala boys not have no taste in tamil nadu girls, after kerala we impressed north indian girls because they are fair and attractive.. And coming to culture, tamil nadu have so many vomiting traditions like kuravan kurathi aatam, and half dressed karagattam 🤮 but in kerala is kathakali, theyyam, mohiniyattam all are full gentle and presentable your temples structure and our temple strucutre are fully differented... We was a part of tamil nadu, but now we have huge difference but we have no hate with tamil nadu, both are neighborhood states and we are brothers 🤗
Parayars were the oldest ethnic group in Tamil , they were always respected by Tamil kings were made as priest in Temples and enjoyed highest status in society , Tanjore big temple has inceptions about this . Later kings who were mix of invaders and influenced by Brahmins made this community as untouchable.
The Pandiyan Kingdom have separate Greek Soldiers ( Clans ) in his Military Army And Called them as Yavanas. Pandiyas trade with Lord Solomon king who is the king of ancient rome who ordered to kill Jesus. " Yavanas " - Greek mens
I come from a family of 2000yrs heritage and they tell all this as story for us through generations Things which made Tamilnadu flourish for more than 5000yrs.. this is the reason why Europeans came here first 1. Pulses 2. Gem stones 3. Metals 4. Shop building 5. Silk cotten woven clothes 6. Pepper 7. Sea food 8. Pottery crafts 9. Weapons
Clearly the speaker has not any idea about tamilnadu. There was no caste system in tamilnadu, only after decline of cholas in 13 century caste system slowly enrered.
Same inscription says how even their distant relatives where banished from chola empire. Kindly read the fully inscription and comment not just by hear something
@@DT_awari half knowledge is always dangerous, that particular inscription was a deed of transfer of ownership of a house, which says that this house belonged to the relative of the murderers of chola prince. That inscription does not talk about the punishment given to the main four culprits. If Relatives and even distant relatives of the culprits were punished then how much the main accused would have been punished just think about it.
Ancient water management system build by kings is the only reason for a other developments. Tamilnadu don't have many perineal rivers like north india, so it has use the water meticulously for cultivation. Discovering the techniques of natural water flows and channeling through canels, ponds are developed by all kings one after the other. Even cavery delta basin system is one the example but speaker not touched even a bit of it.
Tamil Nadu is the real “India” left over from the Aryan (central Asian nomads) and European invasions. Tamil literature has the Ancient Indian stories, as in divided the Indian subcontinent into 5 major lands & its own Tamil literature (ஐந்து திணை இலக்கியங்கள்). Indians should learn Tamil to understand the “real Indian” essence of maturity & poetic history.
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@@guruharan8734 but the guy who is describing it to ranveer is fake...he is talking possibilities as if it is not a fact...where as there are records available all over the world including muzhiri papirus about details international trade transactions.
The only problem I have with this take is it completely disregards what people after independence of India did to make sure everything was improving even further and sustain it. DMK & ADMK played a significant role in making sure economic prosperity was a core role in their reign. Ancient Tamil Nadu was strong, trading empire but modern Tamil Nadu has been excelling and improving further. I’m proud to be a Tamizhan!
Pandiyas were the ancient dynasty in Tamilnadu they were the first seafarers and had Maritime trade relations with most west , middleeast and eastern countries. They were good at perl fishery and traded valuable goods like pearls , ivory , spices etc , they are equally good at producing agricultural products. They are the longest ruled dynasty in World history . The capital of the Early Pandiyan kingdom was initially Korkai, Thoothukudi[1] and was later moved to Koodal (now Madurai) during the reign of Nedunjeliyan I.[2] . Later came pallavas, Chera , chola dynasties.
I would say good governance is the key for the kings in the south in Tamil Nadu. The kings spend effort to build key dams to channel water to fertile lands. If dams are not built then water would not get into the fields. Also temples were build for both social and economic reason. It keeps people intact, economy was built around temple governance. You should read up about Pandia kingdom (who are not often cited in major discussions on Indian kingdom) and chola kingdom governance. Mostly during these kingdom there were some Arya influence to setup a cast system which destroyed socialist governance of most Tamil kingdoms and brought about separation among themselves.
When a society is showing so much advancement in craft- that shows the rich intellectual skill. They were able to do something other than food which is a survival thing. Now- why would the expert then assume that- people may have been in hardships? In any kingdom- their may have been a under performing; economically backward class- what was the percentage of those people- thats the question. When we cant be sure of it- then, only way to assume is by measuring the happiness index in general. That why I feel- Contentment must have prevailed thats why they could practice art or craft.
Herodotus The Greek Historian and Writer spoke about the Nadan community now called Nadars. Nadars took the Palmarah toddy and fruits and art works and spices to Greece and Lebanon. Herodotus called the Nadan as the Traders, Sea Farers and taught the Greek how to write in Palmarah leaves.
Iam from tamil nadu this guy is communist historyan. Proof: he talk about pallava and say tamil had only reached srilanka .in his next sentences he acknowledge tamil traded with romen .may be is on of dravidiya men who want to say tamil and dravidam is same the both had caste .but its not true if you read the inscription in thanjavur temple you can see each caste and there service to temple is are written with atmost respect that 1000 years back so it proove there is not caste opperation in chola period. This historian paint every one hand red without any proof .caste equality was introduced after Vijaynagar and palliyakar.
If there is not inequality then whats the point of having castes... other countries also had different jobs but a job there is a personal preference... anybody can do any job... but here the caste, you cannot change your job or caste... Once emperor considered all castes equal doesn't mean its the same all over the history...And there is nothing as Communist historian or capitalist historian... its just historian saying facts or not...
The interviewee seems misinformed on certain topics. It is no shame to say I don't know when you don't know. In specific when the interviewer asks about caste culture in Chola Kingdom, he almost apologetically asks to assume. Instead he should just say, I don't know, instead of trying to glorify or deglorify something. The historical fact is the 4 varna system didn't take solid roots in Chola kingdom until the 12th century and neither did male domination. Possibly the reason why Buddhism didn't get as much traction in Chola kingdom as the two things Buddhism feverishly fought on - Caste and women subjugation were non issues in Chola and Pandya kingdoms.
He is not explaining properly, many info are not exactly right. Pallavas are given first priority than Chola, chera and Pandya. Please invite Mannar Mannan
I am sorry. There are lot of misconception in this discussion. Tamil Nadu is not rich is water resources or river like in North India. Only a small part of Cauvery river is flowing and that too shared with Karnataka. TN gets just 1/3 of Cauvery water. Also none of the major cities except Trichy is built around a river. eg. Coimbatore, Chennai etc. None are around a river. The small river based cities like Trichy or Madurai are not a industrial or development centre. The speaker is not having idea about facts and talk on a general perception. Highly misleading. Tamil Nadu has suddenly become rich out of sheer education, industrialisation and hard work of its people.
RANVEER, PLS INVITE TRU TAMILZH. BEWARE NOT ALL TAMILZH KNOWING PERSONS ARE TAMILS. THERE ARE EITHER BAMINS OR EX VIJAYNAGARA EMPIRE LEFT OVERS (STILL RULING TN BY HIDING THERE SURNAMES.
People understand tamilnadu is not chennai to Kanyakumari in old periods, kalinga (now part of west bengal) to Kanyakumari and srilanka too... Imagine how many rivers in ancient periods without dam . You need learn about tamilians read the king chera ,the king chola ,the king pandya, the king pallavas. He say all ancient truths.
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correct even Australia, New Zealand, Madagascar, even Arabia was part of tamilnadu and half of the world spoke Tamil/
Eelam is still Tamil. Tamil Eelam
@@rsvenkatesh SINGAPORE, MALAYSIA ,INDONASIA ,
Kerala never existed..it was chera.
Now its kerala... And that was not tamil nadu, chozha pandia and pallava
@@ക്ഷത്രിയൻ-ഝ6ഡ But kerala is born from tamil nadu right. Even Malayalam is derived from tamil. Am i right?
@simba1050 ya but malayalis and tamilans have huge differents in genetics especially in skin colour and culture also
@@ക്ഷത്രിയൻ-ഝ6ഡ of course it will. Its nature right, because of the climate, atmosphere. But when comes to culture i think kerala follows many things from tamil people. Once i went to south india trip, i visited lot of archeological and historical places. Then only i came to know tamil is the oldest living language also it is the mother of malayala kanada telugu. Also i heard a interesting thing that kerala girls like tamil boys and it makes the best pair. How beautiful. You guys are like father and children states
@simba1050 its not becuase of climate, its called genetics, by climate its skin tan like getting more sun lights to skin... You can see andhrapradesh peoples, there more hot climate than tamil nadu but they are more fair than tamil peoples, and you said about kerala girls its totally in your dream, the 95% kerala girls not even thinking about tamil boys, becuase they have enough selection here, some girls are fall in love to tamil boys becuase of their regular meet in office or collage, thats also happens to kerala boys and tamil girls... Its happening in all states my friend lover is a gujarati girl, its usual.. And tamil boys are fans of kerala girls, you can see in many youtube chanels tamil boys telling about kerala girls, but kerala boys not have no taste in tamil nadu girls, after kerala we impressed north indian girls because they are fair and attractive.. And coming to culture, tamil nadu have so many vomiting traditions like kuravan kurathi aatam, and half dressed karagattam 🤮 but in kerala is kathakali, theyyam, mohiniyattam all are full gentle and presentable your temples structure and our temple strucutre are fully differented... We was a part of tamil nadu, but now we have huge difference but we have no hate with tamil nadu, both are neighborhood states and we are brothers 🤗
Tamilnadu an ancient America
Parayars were the oldest ethnic group in Tamil , they were always respected by Tamil kings were made as priest in Temples and enjoyed highest status in society , Tanjore big temple has inceptions about this . Later kings who were mix of invaders and influenced by Brahmins made this community as untouchable.
Yes i agree with you
Later kings❌
Open ah peaunga vro😂
Vijayanagar Empire✅
The Pandiyan Kingdom have separate Greek Soldiers ( Clans ) in his Military Army And Called them as Yavanas. Pandiyas trade with Lord Solomon king who is the king of ancient rome who ordered to kill Jesus.
" Yavanas " - Greek mens
@@DT_awari First you need to read Bible brother, King Herod tried to kill Jesus. Read Matthew: 2: 1-16
I come from a family of 2000yrs heritage and they tell all this as story for us through generations
Things which made Tamilnadu flourish for more than 5000yrs.. this is the reason why Europeans came here first
1. Pulses
2. Gem stones
3. Metals
4. Shop building
5. Silk cotten woven clothes
6. Pepper
7. Sea food
8. Pottery crafts
9. Weapons
*ship building
Pearl industry
You're missing the most friendly and accommodative souls(the people of TN) in your list
Clearly the speaker has not any idea about tamilnadu. There was no caste system in tamilnadu, only after decline of cholas in 13 century caste system slowly enrered.
இராஜ ராஜ சோழன் பிரம்மயோகம்(பிரமணர்களுக்கு ஊர்களை தானமாக வழங்குதல்) கல்வேட்டுகள் உள்ளது சிமான் தற்குறி
Same inscription says how even their distant relatives where banished from chola empire. Kindly read the fully inscription and comment not just by hear something
@@DT_awari half knowledge is always dangerous, that particular inscription was a deed of transfer of ownership of a house, which says that this house belonged to the relative of the murderers of chola prince. That inscription does not talk about the punishment given to the main four culprits. If Relatives and even distant relatives of the culprits were punished then how much the main accused would have been punished just think about it.
Ancient water management system build by kings is the only reason for a other developments. Tamilnadu don't have many perineal rivers like north india, so it has use the water meticulously for cultivation. Discovering the techniques of natural water flows and channeling through canels, ponds are developed by all kings one after the other. Even cavery delta basin system is one the example but speaker not touched even a bit of it.
So true .. more than infrastructure it is principles on water management. By law downstream had more rights on river water than up stream
It has kaveri
Tamil Nadu is the real “India” left over from the Aryan (central Asian nomads) and European invasions.
Tamil literature has the Ancient Indian stories, as in divided the Indian subcontinent into 5 major lands & its own Tamil literature (ஐந்து திணை இலக்கியங்கள்). Indians should learn Tamil to understand the “real Indian” essence of maturity & poetic history.
It was never the Story in Tamil history People lived the same life as the King
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Please Bring someone who knows the history of Tamil,s well.
Hey Pani Puri wala, these histories were recorded by international travellers, historians. Not like Brahmin stories
@@guruharan8734 but the guy who is describing it to ranveer is fake...he is talking possibilities as if it is not a fact...where as there are records available all over the world including muzhiri papirus about details international trade transactions.
TASMAC😂
The only problem I have with this take is it completely disregards what people after independence of India did to make sure everything was improving even further and sustain it. DMK & ADMK played a significant role in making sure economic prosperity was a core role in their reign. Ancient Tamil Nadu was strong, trading empire but modern Tamil Nadu has been excelling and improving further. I’m proud to be a Tamizhan!
Welcome video. Thanks
Pandiyas were the ancient dynasty in Tamilnadu they were the first seafarers and had Maritime trade relations with most west , middleeast and eastern countries. They were good at perl fishery and traded valuable goods like pearls , ivory , spices etc , they are equally good at producing agricultural products. They are the longest ruled dynasty in World history . The capital of the Early Pandiyan kingdom was initially Korkai, Thoothukudi[1] and was later moved to Koodal (now Madurai) during the reign of Nedunjeliyan I.[2] . Later came pallavas, Chera , chola dynasties.
It’s what it looks like when you learn history from shots and reels😂
I would say good governance is the key for the kings in the south in Tamil Nadu. The kings spend effort to build key dams to channel water to fertile lands. If dams are not built then water would not get into the fields. Also temples were build for both social and economic reason. It keeps people intact, economy was built around temple governance. You should read up about Pandia kingdom (who are not often cited in major discussions on Indian kingdom) and chola kingdom governance. Mostly during these kingdom there were some Arya influence to setup a cast system which destroyed socialist governance of most Tamil kingdoms and brought about separation among themselves.
There are no big palaces like the moguls. The ancient kings built big temples in tamilnadu.
Blind leading another blind..
Did he say they went all the way to Srilanka? Did they not go all the way to Indonesia at the least?
He is wrong in his information.
Srilanka never existed first. Chozhas were ruling it and only Tamils were in it as well..
both speaker are with limited knowledge and no use of watching this video.😢
When a society is showing so much advancement in craft- that shows the rich intellectual skill. They were able to do something other than food which is a survival thing.
Now- why would the expert then assume that- people may have been in hardships?
In any kingdom- their may have been a under performing; economically backward class- what was the percentage of those people- thats the question.
When we cant be sure of it- then, only way to assume is by measuring the happiness index in general.
That why I feel- Contentment must have prevailed thats why they could practice art or craft.
Herodotus The Greek Historian and Writer spoke about the Nadan community now called Nadars. Nadars took the Palmarah toddy and fruits and art works and spices to Greece and Lebanon. Herodotus called the Nadan as the Traders, Sea Farers and taught the Greek how to write in Palmarah leaves.
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Converted nadan or not converted nadan ah 😅
😂😂😂 wtf
@@karthicksowndharraj2402 karuppan kusumbukaaran... 🤣🤣🤣
@@iii0988 dude... nadan protest against the breast tax... they didn't create it...
Iam from tamil nadu this guy is communist historyan. Proof: he talk about pallava and say tamil had only reached srilanka .in his next sentences he acknowledge tamil traded with romen .may be is on of dravidiya men who want to say tamil and dravidam is same the both had caste .but its not true if you read the inscription in thanjavur temple you can see each caste and there service to temple is are written with atmost respect that 1000 years back so it proove there is not caste opperation in chola period. This historian paint every one hand red without any proof .caste equality was introduced after Vijaynagar and palliyakar.
If there is not inequality then whats the point of having castes... other countries also had different jobs but a job there is a personal preference... anybody can do any job... but here the caste, you cannot change your job or caste...
Once emperor considered all castes equal doesn't mean its the same all over the history...And there is nothing as Communist historian or capitalist historian... its just historian saying facts or not...
Coz we never allow BJP
Not informative. Just blabbering somehting. Misleading title.
Talk mayans and tamil people Egyptian and tamil harappa mohanjatharo sindu with tamil
The interviewee seems misinformed on certain topics. It is no shame to say I don't know when you don't know. In specific when the interviewer asks about caste culture in Chola Kingdom, he almost apologetically asks to assume. Instead he should just say, I don't know, instead of trying to glorify or deglorify something. The historical fact is the 4 varna system didn't take solid roots in Chola kingdom until the 12th century and neither did male domination. Possibly the reason why Buddhism didn't get as much traction in Chola kingdom as the two things Buddhism feverishly fought on - Caste and women subjugation were non issues in Chola and Pandya kingdoms.
Toddy was sold in Greece and Italy and Lebanon.
very poor speaker..... he said pallavan went to srilaka really? dude pallavas went to south east Asia and traded with greeks and romans and Chinese
Please find people who know historical evidence.
Apollo chain market
He is not explaining properly, many info are not exactly right. Pallavas are given first priority than Chola, chera and Pandya. Please invite Mannar Mannan
Jai Samvidhaan
this guy is a half baked historian
THey are not rich stat. Gujurat richest
I am sorry. There are lot of misconception in this discussion. Tamil Nadu is not rich is water resources or river like in North India. Only a small part of Cauvery river is flowing and that too shared with Karnataka. TN gets just 1/3 of Cauvery water. Also none of the major cities except Trichy is built around a river. eg. Coimbatore, Chennai etc. None are around a river. The small river based cities like Trichy or Madurai are not a industrial or development centre. The speaker is not having idea about facts and talk on a general perception. Highly misleading. Tamil Nadu has suddenly become rich out of sheer education, industrialisation and hard work of its people.
Chennai having 3 rivers bro...😂... but need to maintained
@@balajipandian2147 you still consider that as a river. Chennai came out of sea port considered good by British.
Tamil nadu 80' decided not to develope in river banks in mgr period .. Due to water pollution..
He's talking about tamilagam, not now tamil nadu
@@Moorthigv true sir. 👍🏽
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Extremely poor sole g by this guy
Love from Tamil Nadu 😊