Should Jeff Ng's Personal Life Affect His Career? | TDK Podcast
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ค. 2022
- Singaporean Busker Jeff Ng's quick rise to fame is met with some interesting claims from his ex amongst others regarding his character. From accusations of cheating, toxic social behaviours and more, can a leopard change it's spots? And should someone's personal life affect their professional life?
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• Denise Oh / ohthedenise
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Thumbs up to Denise who could articulate well consistently
This episode John is kinda disoriented/ less articulate than usual? Too many gummy bears? Haha
The reason why some people are not supporting Jeff anymore is simple: it has been revealed that he has an extremely unlikeable personality lor. I don’t think it’s so much that people think Jeff doesn’t deserve to be famous because of what he did in his personal life in the past. It’s not “Jeff cannot be famous anymore”/ “Jeff cannot be a busker anymore” but rather “Eeee he’s like that one ah, so insecure, rude, possessive & abusive. So disgusting, I don’t like him anymore/ I don’t condone this kind of behaviour so I cannot root for him anymore”.
And yes, performers should be first & foremost judged by their performance but a person is not just his craft mah. Things like appearance & personality do play a part in how likeable a person is. I don’t think Jeff should be cancelled. However, I do think he should be called out for his bad behaviour towards his audience & fans & his abusive ways towards his ex. And it’s totally understandable why some will stop supporting him as a result.
On the topic of “deserved fame” - think of it as running a business. Ultimately, he’s doing whatever he does to earn a profit / living. Similarly to how you wouldn’t support a business which values doesn’t align with yours (eg if a brand is homophobic and you boycott them), you wouldn’t want to support a musician who’s a terrible person (or have shitty morals). That’s how I view it, might not be representative, but I suppose that’s the rationale behind the people who drop him after finding out who he is as a person :)
When you become famous and well liked, you have the power to influence and control a big crowd of people or world. This can greatly affect the moral society. If this person has good attitude and characteristics, the examples he or she portrays will promote virtues, hence if someone portrays bad attitudes and behaviours and still allow to influence, then the society will be in danger! Media is powerful, but must use it with care! Be good and have peace!
For me this case is too far gone already. Mistakes is one thing but his case is really extreme
Whutt.. Did Daniel just said Jeff has a likeable face? Like without knowing the whole story, his face alrdy throw me off Lols
There were comments that alleges that his wife is no better than him in terms of bad attitude and self entitlement. If that's true, maybe she really wholeheartedly defended him, because she cannot see his flaws ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
This is not just moral leh i think. Emotional abusive leh. Think about the ex that have to live with it. Emotional abusive is also consider domestic abuse. Personally i dont want to support someone like this.
Also china will cancel him even harder. They have very strict moral standard for celebrity.
The hypocrisy in the parody vs bully is very prevalent. Thanks for bringing that up.
honestly i didnt know him but at first when the ex came out i thought like okay its his past and personal relationship anyway (disclaimer at that point i only knew that he was a controlling boyfriend) but i lost it when i heard the stories about him whining in a cafe because patrons were chatting when he performed like siR they are there to eat not to listen to you LMAO
I think in Ivan Lim's case, he was running for something that was literally based off his popularity and abilities so his past shit shows his popularity in a way?
In Jeff's case of course it shouldn't affect his career but things like the unfollow thing makes people feel uncomfortable to support him. Also people have the right to judge for themselves after all, so I think it's fair to share the things about him so people can make better informed decisions.
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Honestly, he could have ignored and continue his life as he did all along but instead of openly facing everyone, he choose to cancel himself which clearly show he is an unchanged person. If a person has turnover a new leaf, no longer the same person as he was previously, he would be able to stand out openly to admit his past and prove he has changed. But personally, I doubt he has changed thus he is hiding.
Aside to that, being a public figure means you are like a role model to some. His personal life is no longer his personal life. This is a trade off to be famous, to be a public figure. Also, he might become a real popular singer in Singapore someday but what kind of image is he projecting to everyone? I believe that is one of the key consideration as well.
On the topic of bullying, I think it is ok to make a joke out of a bad behavior. But if they start to personal attack I think it goes too far.
People can change. But change is not so easy. Show the work, show the actions. Trust is easily broken, and takes time and effort to rebuild. Talk is cheap.
He really did follow me on ig then unfollowed when I followed back. His wife, is quite toxic as well.
Wife toxic I. What way
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need more Episodes!!! re-listened to too many alr ):
Did John just say who hasn't emotionally abused their partner before? 🤨Very sus
The thumbnail👌💯 hahahhahahahah
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i think people still go to concerts because of the company, you go to a concert and you get to make friends, sing and jump along with people who appreciate the same type of music and its all good vibes. :)
omg y’all filming smt w JJLIN!!! Looking forward!
I relate with Jon C's point about the "bully". At the end of the day we have to reflect if this "cancel?" Culture what we want to promote. If we do, then be consistent and don't be promoting mental wellness/anti bullying the following week.
Why do famous people need to be good people?
Cause they have a following, and by such, there is some form of societal pressure that they should uphold good morals.
Children follow who/what they see online. thus u see many canceled "influencers" nowadays.
It's like if eg. lionel messi was super arrogant, always talks down to his opponents. do you think he will be a famous as he is? i dont think he will get as much opportunities career wise.
When you like/stan a celebrity, actor, singer, artists etc, you do it because you like his/her talent/skills and looks.
However, if you do something bad or not in line with what they believe in, they will just not support you any longer.
I believe this will be similar to other celebrities, like show luo or wang lee hong, until proven otherwise
Mistakes made in our former relationships regardless of how common they are among people does not make them okay and we shouldn’t be making statements like “ahya who don’t make those mistakes?”.
It’s dangerous to normalise something that has potential detrimental effects on the victim’s mental health. Just my two cents worth
Regarding should personal life affect the professional live, I feel it depends on the job itself. Sometime, personal life has a lot of influence in some occupation, especially if it is link to popularity. Singers don't just earn from singing, they also earn through sponsorship etc. At the end of the day, it is up to the "consumers" to decide on the criteria of "products" they want to support. Some just require singers to sing well, some require more than that.
No matter what, people should just respect different consumers' criteria.
I have to agree on JP's view on whether the content is bully or just a joke.
I really have no idea why the partner get angry when the guy doesn't get jealous.
how to fake Jealous to keep her feeling safe with a dash of it and not turn it into toxicity?
Conclusion…. He’s a control freak….
Jeff Ng's slated to feature in the artiste line-up for some Tampines West National Day function/concert on 13 August?
John is daniel and daniel is john
Not just personal life... But he treats his customers extraordinarily bad too e.g. followers who unfollow him get scolded, bar clients who ask him to stop scolding their customers get scolded, bar customers who talk in a bar get scolded.
WAIT WHAT DID YOU FILM WITH JJ LIN??? PLEASE DROP IT!!
Bullying is bullying. Does it matter if it was punching up or punching down?
Idk why, the moment you said kill myself, I flashback to Ryan and Slyvia saga.
I love the iron man bottle on the table AHAHAHA
Not a fan or non-fan of Jeff, so am speaking from an objective pov.. I'm sure there are reasons behind his behaviours that seems toxic..could be his fam background or trauma incidents that are unresolved. I feel like with the recent incident and backlash, it may help him gain more awareness about his own behaviours.. hope he will seek professional help to process any emotions or past incidents that have made him have such insecure behaviours.
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I can understand people riding on the craze but I think people with bigger following have more social responsibility. If a random person is nasty, the reach might not be there. Not saying it is okay since it might also blow up and it might bite back. I think influencer should try to think if the same thing happens to them and other ppl did the same, can they accept. If yes, then go ahead.
That's also what those memes are doing to the Tuas woman
Eh why end at the DJ story. More in depth leh
Honestly, he has classic narcissistic behavior , i feel bad for him, he needs help.
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Ivan Lim is different, he ever fail in leadership role before. If a fail person fail in leadership role, you still trust him as a MP?
Out of point but Denise’s water bottle damn cute , especially compared to the other dudes’ boring black bottles 🤣
I think you guys missed the point. It's not whether he is talented; bad personality etc or not . Rather it all depends on the job u are in. If u are a talented stock broker; always making profits for your clients and u have a shiity personality; people do not care. Why? Cause you are making money for them. U can have the worst reputation in the industry but the best results and people will still come to you. But when it comes to entertainment, its the masses who are doing the paying. Buying your music, paying for concerts, paying for live band pubs, etc. You do not provide anything tangible to your clients. It's like the service industry. Would you go back to a restaurant with bad (or worse "rude") service?
In any industry where you put urself in the limelight, you become your own brand. Any bad publicity is a hit on your portfolio. It's the price of fame all celebrities have to pay be it sports personalities, actors or politicians. Yes, everyone has a past, but if people can see remorse and change, some people would forgive and forget. But when people still see the arrogance in you and no signs of remose, then it doesn't matter how talented you are because unfortunately the industry you are in is ultimately dependent on people's opinion.
Nice watch JP
what brand and model is it?
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Algooooo
love how f**k is censored but not lanjiao @26:21
TH-cam won't demonetize hokkien vulgar mah they angmo don't understand xD
Sounds like abandonment issues to me tbh. Which can rear its ugly head in so many complicated ways.
Old uncle singer acting like boi boi better singing in siamdiu lah
Neither him or his wife face can make it
Honestly, i still do not know him at all...
Karma, plain and simple
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Jeff Ng can do Basking instead of Busking. Basking in the sun to Tan his fair ass skin , since he is not fair to his gf.
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cute water bottle
john chua casually just calling out sgag, sneakysushi and many other singaporean influencers HAHAHAHA but i think im with john side on this, less of denise though great points brought up by both sides
I don't think I've seen a comedian from the united states like Kevin Hart or Bill Burr single out someone and roast them on social media for the sake of following a "trend" or comedy. And I think it's damn toxic that Singaporeans celebrate cancel culture under the guise that they are trying to achieve some sort of social justice, when it's probably just a way for them to release some of their jealousy. Imo everyone has skeletons in their closet and is it really right us to celebrate a situation like this?
i wonder if he got onlyfans, i know he got little white face services for the aunties
DAMN GAY ?! I SAID IT ALL THE TIME!
Tat raymond is cringe
I don't think Jeff is intentionally a shitty person.
He probably has/had some issues and is/was very insecure. My over protective mother was also similar in that sense. Used to give me many missed calls when I went home late, expect me to inform her whenever I go, I'm also always in the wrong and have a hard time to apologise her. She also threaten suicide sometimes. Yes she was toxic, but I was also a disobedient teenager who was probably pushing it with an over protective parent. So I don't think the gf is entirely innocent either and probably knew how to push his buttons. In fact Jeff wouldn't have done those things if he didn't really care for her. As I grew up my relationship improved ultimately with my mother after I told her how her behaviour really hurts me. To date, we have a really loving and understanding relationship so I believe he can change as well.
Regarding how he always wants his fans to listen to him while he's singing, I heard he used to be a school teacher. It could be that he is treating his fans the way he treats his students 😂 by asking them to quiet down and listen.
I didn't know Jeff before this incident and never listened to his singing before also. So I'm definitely not a fan defending him but I don't think he deserves all this cancelling as everyone deserves a chance and he did not deserve to have his private life being shared like that. The ex gf definitely has some issues sharing her side of the story just because he's famous now.
Nah going after sponsors is never cool
Jeff Ng ex gf is opportunistic.
I also must stand up for Ivan Lim. He is logical and a strict stickler for the rules which makes him an unpopular person. If you want shit done, he's the person. If you want someone empathetic, someone else.
Seriously, he is just a busker and not like some influential person.
Are you all going to cancel all assholes regardless of occupation?
In my view, the girlfriend had a very evil agenda and is out to ruin his life. Their relationship ended eons ago and Jeff even got married.
People makes mistake.
This cancel culture is getting way overboard. Unforgiving society.
he ruined hers first. plus she wasnt the only one who came out to expose his misdeeds, means this guy's character is really terrible, even in professional settings and in his line of work, not just his personal character. plus his actions were not very long ago. those regarding harrassing followers and getting upset at online fans chatting in his live are recent, deserves to be pointed out
@@bigmattwheel no doubt he has a shady character, but to what extent do you want to go to cancel someone?
Would you go and cancel a blue collar worker for shady character?
This Jeff guy is just a busker and is not even anybody who is wields influence. Neither is he an ambassador for good behavior of that sort.