An attorney steals a cat (or anything else) gets caught and refuses to return it and the owner has to file suit to get his property back? That attorney needs to be disbarred. He has demonstrated his lack of ethics and has no place in the legal profession.
We had a barn cat that lived until he was 22. Everyone in our neighborhood liked him. He even had a cat bed in 3 different garages, and I used to see my neighbors' kids pushing him around in a baby carriage 😂 He loved attention.
@@LOUDMOUTHTYRONE We had a barn wife that lived until she was 22. Everyone in our neighborhood liked her. She even had a wife bed in 3 different garages, and I used to see my neighbors' kids pushing her around in a baby carriage 😂 She loved attention.
Three years ago one of our semi trailers came back from a town about 45 miles North. When the trailer was opened a young black cat bolted out across the dock and into the warehouse. It took several of us nearly three hours to find and capture the cat (it is a pretty big building that employees about 150 people). We had flyers posted around the town the cat had come from but nobody claimed her. She is still here as an outdoor cat that shows up every morning half an hour before work starts looking for breakfast and every break time looking for attention. We did get her spayed and in the spring/summer put anti-flea treatment on her once a month (a sure way to get shunned by her for the next two weeks or so). She has absolutely no fear of the large crowds outside at break and will meander through accepting attention from (nearly) anyone. I suppose she has no fear because she belongs to all of us at the warehouse. Anyone cruel/stupid enough to mistreat her would not only find themselves instantly unemployed but would most likely receive an epic beatdown from certain interested parties.
Here in ALBERTA, IF you take a cat or a dog that is chipped and you take it to the Vet, they will call the Owner. IF the owner says that no they did not give or sell the animal to you, it is SEIZED until the owner shows up.
That's the way it should work. In the US a lot of vets won't even scan for a chip when someone brings in a new pet because they are working for the person that brought it in and finding a chip would be counter to the interests of their client.
@Brass Dolphin Midnight Foot Feed And courts have held that to be true of all pets EXCEPT cats. It is in a cats nature to roam. Roaming does not mean stray with cats. Feral on the other hand, is a stray cat with no human 'owner'.
@Brass Dolphin Midnight Foot Feed you clearly have pent up feelings from some bad experience with a cat. Show us on the doll where the bad cat touched you
I got lucky I guess, because I caught mine before Mama had taught them to be cautious of strangers. So I largely have trained them and having four sisters from the same litter makes life relatively easy.
@@fakjbf3129 At least they solved the mystery of the cats that died of alcohol poisoning. That was before my time with the game, but it's a hilarious story nonetheless.
Hey Pamela have you ever seen video it's so cute goes like this.. There is a owner feeding his dog petting his dog taking his dog on walks playing toys with him and the dog thinks and says "they are God. An account owner does the same thing in the cat says I am God. 🤣🤣 So true tho
@@shmeli For us in the UK it's more about what happens if your cat/dog caused an accident: you can be taken to court for failure to control your dog and you need insurance and a license. With a cat you need none of that as they are deemed "free" in the sense you have no realistic hope of controlling them when they are outside. Also, cats don't attack & kill/severely injure people if they have a bad temperament, are badly treated or goaded.
@@shmeli I had no ideas that was a thing. I found a dead cat on the sidewalk in front of my house one day when I got home. Had been hit by a passing car.
I can see why they took the cat, perhaps they actually thought they had permission. But once they realized that someone wanted her back and that she was chipped how in the world could they think that they could keep her?
A lawyer knows that taking something that you do not clearly own is unethical and illegal. He also knows that you can't just take any random person's word for it that it's OK to take a pet you don't own. There is no aw-shucks-sorry-bout-the-misunderstandin' here.
I have had many cats over the years many of them indoor turned outdoor with my current turning back into a indoor after getting on in her years. All of them preferred being out doors and would only willingly come in during thunderstorms. Cats by nature are curious and exploratory creatures and being indoors can be a very boring life to them. To say they are not and cannot be well taken care of when they live outdoors is false. To claim it irresponsible because of environmental impact is another debate but cats are well suited to live outdoors and have for much of human history.
My husband joined our marriage with a fantastic, huge, black cat. We loved him! Husband’s overbearing sister managed to bully my husband out of the cat. Her neighbors became enamored of Ace, the cat, and when they sold their house and moved away they stole our cat from her! I never saw a cat so loved by so many. It’s been forty years, and I still miss that cat.
I had an indoor/outdoor cat that lived for 21 years. Her name was Ashley, and she was a beautiful grey tuxedo. I lived in a trailer court out in the country, when Ashley was about 3 years old. I had a fenced in yard and the top of the fencing was flat plank, and Ashley would walk on that...looking down to jump onto mice, snakes, birds, and dogs. One summer, a really pathetic 'clan' of people moved a trashy single wide into the spot next to my home...they were always drinking, fighting and just horrible as far as dumping trash on the ground etc. There were 3 men, 2 women and 3 kids living in that single wide. One Friday I was outside picking up some pinecones before I mowed, and Ashley was on the fence next to me. One of the men came up to me and started to pet her and asked me if I knew who owned the cat. I told him, that I did. And he asked if he could buy her for $5.00 because he never saw a cat chase a dog before...which Ashley would do sometimes. I told him she wasn't for sale...and he kind of got this odd look to his face as he nodded and walked off. I often let Ashley stay outside on Saturdays, if it was nice outside, as I worked a short day on Saturday. But the next day, being Saturday, I decided I wasn't going to let her out....nor was she going to go outside unless I was out there keeping an eye on her. I'm glad I trusted my instincts. I kept Ashley in the house Saturday and Sunday. Monday morning I stepped out side to go to work and those folks had 'skipped' out of the trailer park...they sawed the sewer pipe, water pipes, left the trailer skirting and wood blocks just laying there and took off in the middle of the night....owing the trailer park space rent. I found out from a neighbor a few days later, that Saturday, she heard one of the men walking around the outside of my fence, calling "Here kitty, kitty." Yeah, the guy was looking for MY Cat! I'm glad I listened to my gut instinct to lock up my cat and keep an eye on her when she did go outside that weekend.
I'm surprised the vet even let the man keep the cat, especially if the vet recognized the cat. When we found a stray a few months ago and the vet found a chip, they informed us and then contacted the owner (who lived ~30 miles away! cat was gone for months apparently), but didnt let us have the cat back in case we bolted before the owner had a chance to respond. I'm not sure what would have happened if the owner couldnt be reached, I think the vet was gonna hold her for 24 hours then let us have her.
@@pansepot1490 haha i probably phrased that bad, we explained the situation and it was all very cordial, but I'm sure there's those situations where someone would try to steal the animal so the vet takes precautions!
yep, they hold the cat for a set amount of time or until the owner contacts them and say they don't want it any more. if the owner cannot be found or be contacted then after a set time you are allowed to fill out the adoption paperwork and usually there is a small fee to transfer ownership over to you with the microchip company so it register to you and your address. If owner cannot be contacted, depending on the country or state or city, it could be required to go the the pound for a few weeks until it's deemed abandoned first, or set number of days like 30 days for the owner to return contact and claim the cat then you have to hand it back to the old owner.
@@pansepot1490 Besides being the cautious assumption, the vet is presumably reasonably intelligent and recognizes the potential legal problems if they send the animal home with somebody when they believe they don't have legal possession of it.
Ask yourself what kind of law does this "attorney" practice when he would steal what he already confirmed was owned by someone else? The answer could be very, very scary.
No, a cat burglar is the cat who left our neighbor's duplex through the dog door, came in the cat door of our duplex, and stole a ham hock off my counter. According to her humans, she likely shared it with their Irish setter. Those two were allegedly partners in crime. I locked the cat door after that; it was installed by the previous tenants for their "son" Shaughnessy, whom they had saved from being drowned on a farm in the midwest. The neighborhood cats taught him how to be a cat, since he was taken from his mother too early. Shaughnessy's parents eventually had a human son and a human daughter, but he remained part of the family.
So...let me get this straight...a lawyer decided it was a good idea to take someone's pet which was chipped, etc? Isn't that...you know...theft? What the hell?
Laws don't matter to many lawyers. Heck, I knew a inmate paralegal who threatened to sue his girlfriend if she didn't bring in contraband. Yeah... And he was skilled enough he probably would have won, but it would have had to be over something else.
When the atty took the cat, that wasn’t necessarily theft. When the atty found out it was chipped and kept it anyway, that might not have been theft. When the owner contacted him and demanded the cat back and the atty said “no”, then that’s theft and the owner should sue for damages and the atty should face investigation by the state bar.
Not sure the attorney should be disbarred, but this should absolutely be filed with their state's bar. Taking the cat was a bit dodgy already, but refusing to give it back was conduct unbecoming an officer of the court.
@@absalomdraconis The chip only establishes that somebody chipped the cat at some time in the past. it's only when somebody claims to (still) own the cat and the chip confirms that they're claiming ownership of the right cat that the legal burden for theft is met.
I once stole a cat named Toonces. Fleeing in my car during the getaway, Toonces pushed me to the passenger seat and took control of the wheel. That cat took me on a wild ride that I'll never soon forget. It ended with a fiery crash off the edge of a cliff.
I had a similar experience with my cat Luna when she was about 3 years old. She and her sister Callie were rescues. They were outdoor cats in a quiet neighbourhood. They were both micro-chipped. One day Luna vanished. I filed a report and went down to the local humane society to check the lost cats. There was no sign of her. There was a cat room I wasn’t invited to look in. I asked about it and asked to have a look. Oh, no, they said, those are cats do if their quarantine after being turned over by their owners. For some reason I was very persistent and asked to have a look. And for some reason they let me. There was Luna, I recognized her immediately. That can’t be, they said, and showed me a card with some made up information about her name and why she’d been brought in. The woman had claimed she was moving away and couldn’t take the cat. She’s microchipped, I pointed out. With my name. They checked the microchip and sure enough… Then they wanted me to pay the $50 (at the time) adoption fee. I refused and told them to collect it from the woman who’d brought in my cat. They relented. I called the police, afraid that this might happen again. The police said they couldn’t lay cat-napping charges but an officer did go over to talk to the woman, though I never found out who it was. The woman claimed that she’d mistaken my cat for hers. Which made no sense whatsoever. it never happened again. Luna is alive and well today, as is her sister Callie. They are getting close to celebrating their 20th birthdays.
Yikes! That sounds crazy! Some people weren't doing due diligence. It used to be that microchip readers would only read one brand of microchip, but I think the companies got their act together. Now it's typical for microchip readers to be able to read multiple brands. So there's no excuse these days, except in the cases where the microchip shifts around or something.
Had to put mine and my late wife's 18 year old cat in October of 19. Second roughest loss next to my wife due to her being also a companion that mourned my wife with me ( don't let anyone tell you they're just dumb animals, she may not have grasped the deep concept of death but she mourned) and that cat was adamant that she was a house cat with the operative word being house. I did work at a paper supplier for 28 years where we had a shop cat my first 12 years there. I was instantly that cat's bestest buddy where Mondays or Tuesdays after a long weekend I had to pull orders with that cat riding my shoulders because his buddy had been away for a few days. Neighboring businesses knew him,we would have customers come in for pick up,drive away and look in their rear view mirror to see ol Puff just sitting on cartons of paper looking very pleased to be going for a ride as we would see said customer pull back in to the lot,open their driver's door and out would hop Puff very pleased with himself. Apparently ol Puff got around and was a bit of a feline celebrity in the area as one morning I stopped at a kwiky mart type store about a mile or so from the shoo for smokes on the way in one morning and had the shop owner tell me to wait a second and sliced off some ham from the deli to bring to Puff and the kwiky mart wasn't one of our customers but somehow saw the company name on my shirt and knew about Puff. Unlike a lot of outdoor cats that just don't come home one day Puff started to slow down and one day one of the secretaries at the business next door came to us and our employer with an offer to take Puff to her home and take over his care and it was generally agreed that since Puff was getting up there in age it was probably best that he be taken by someone to let him live out what days he had left somewhere other than a warehouse sleeping on whatever pallet of paper or envelopes struck his fancy and agreed. The secretary kept us updated as how Puff was doing and would bring him by to visit from time to time ( and yes I would let him ride my shoulders for a bit but have to put him down rather than just let him jump to the nearest acknowledged of paper) and then one morning about a year after Puff retired to the home life we got word that Puff had passed peacefully in his sleep overnight.
My country used to have a substantial railway network (mostly closed down now, so the roads can be filled with trucks instead). A network of railway maintenance workshops and yards throughout the country included large "stores" warehouses at certain main cities. Upon occasional visits to the nearest stores warehouse to collect requisitioned materials, where they had an OFFICIAL resident cat. Cat food was supplied as part of the departmental budget and the cat had an official "job number" so if it needed Vetinarian care, then the fees would be paid. Daytimes the cat half slept in a basket on a desk in the store's office being friendly to visitors, but night times it would prowl as a mouse and rat capture and destroy system, getting into places that humans cannot.
@@KiwiCatherineJemma oh yes while my wife and I used to joke our cat was the mouser that never mouser when she was 9 years old I saw her chasing around and thinking maybe she was batting around one of her milk rings only to find her beating a mouse to death so she at least racked up one confirmed rodent kill for her record. Puff on the other hand took an extreme pride in his job he'd bring us frogs ( fortunately the frogs were really good at playing dead so once our fearsome hunter was praised we'd sneak the poor frog out and release it) and mice etc. One of the best stories about Puff was one of my bosses was in their office and they kept hearing this thunk noise of something bouncing off the full length office window behind her on seemingly regular interval. After a few more thunks she turned around to see Puff with his latest prize pick it up by it's tail,swing his head to one side and then bring his head back around rapidly and release the mouse where it would thunk against the window. He repeated this until such time as the boss in question opened the window so that he could enter and get ear skritches for his successful mouse hunt.
I will never, ever forget my first cat Albert. I've had many pets since then, but he was the first and the most beloved. I had 4 brothers, no sisters, and he was a source of comfort and love during tough times for 15 years. I also still remember my grandmother's cats huge, double-paw,, Smokey all gray and Powderfuff gray with white paws-- In our house pets were and are family members, all of them. Including Irving the chameleon who lived in a large geranium plant in a sunny window in our living room.
I'm glad that this story had a happy ending. It reminded me of a song by Sonny James titled: ''The Cat Came Back'' which I had on a 78rpm disc way back in the late 50's. Kids love this song, and I recommend you give it a listen. Be sure to get the 1956 version by Sonny James, as it is the best one out of all the subsequent releases and copys that followed over the years. Here are the lyrycs: The Cat Came Back (1956) Song by Sonny James Lyrics The cat came back, The cat came back, I thought it was a goner but the cat came back 'Cause it wouldn't stay away Now old Uncle John had troubles of his own Had an ol' yeller cat that wouldn't leave home He tried everything he knew to keep the cat away Even gave it to a preacher an' he told him for to stay But the cat came back, the cat came back I thought it was a goner but the cat came back 'Cause it wouldn't stay away Now they gave the ol' cat to the man in a balloon They told him to leave him with the man in the moon The balloon it bursted and everybody said Ten miles away, they picked the man up dead But the cat came back, the cat came back I thought it was a goner but the cat came back 'Cause it wouldn't stay away Now the farmer on the corner's gonna kill a cat at sight He's loaded up his gun full of nails an' dynamite Well He waited in the garden 'til the cat came around Seven little pieces of the man was all they found But the cat came back, the cat came back I thought it was a goner but the cat came back 'Cause it wouldn't stay away Well the cat was a terror and he thought it was best To give it to a fella who was headin' out west The train it went around the corner an' it hit a broken rail Not a soul aboard the train lived to tell the tale But the cat came back, the cat came back I thought it was a goner but the cat came back 'Cause he wouldn't stay away Meow!
My husband and I got a calico at a yard sale for free. Lived in an apartment complex(?) 4 attached apartments with grass around. Total of 8 such buildings. Named her Spitfire, she was a people cat. Had a cat door in the front window. When we left to go any where she would go out the window and to the apartment next door & meow at the door. They would let her in. When we came back (guess she recognized the Willy's engine sound) they would let her out and she would be at our door waiting to go in with us. She wasn't our first cat. When first moved into the place the previous people moved into a back apartment we inherited their cat. He would not move with them. He was a free roaming cat that is why the cat window was put in. His name was Casper, a white cat, he would fall asleep anywhere didn't matter what he was doing. Many a time he would be face down in the food dish, luckily it was never the water bowl. He loved people except his original owners, (a lady with 9 kids), tolerated other cats. He was a terror to any dogs though. He took after them. One apartment had a vicious pit bull, after Casper had a "TALK" with him that dog would cringe at any thing. He pead when he heard a cat meow.
@Brass Dolphin Midnight Foot Feed even if a Lamborghini ends up on your property you don't get to keep it. You can have it removed at the owners expense but it doesn't become yours.
We moved into the country from Milwaukee. My brother had a tomcat named Frisbee. All the farmer's cats in the area were orange. After Frisbee arrived suddenly all the kittens were black and white. We were over at a farmer's barn getting fresh milk when Frisbee came up to be petted. We naturally made a big deal over him. The farmer asked if we knew that cat and my mother explained it was our cat. He said all the farmers had wondered where that cat came from because he had a pretty good range and was definitely the dominant tom. He lived to a ripe old age before we put him down. He had all his shots, we took care of him, and our German Shepherd always greeted him enthusiastically when he came home. He knew where home was too. This was in the early 70's.
This is so funny, not that Nubbin's was fought over, but that he was 'chipped' and that wasn't enough proof till a judge had to render a ruling. My funny story was las night I mentioned to a store clerk that I'm surprised my wife hasn't had me chipped seeing how often my navigation skills seem to be lacking, even when going somewhere I've been to the previous month.
She didn't have me chipped. Uses those darn Apple GPS Gizmo's. Much better in she doesn't have to call the vet to find out where I am at. I know where my butt is at, just get lost sometimes. Thank God for Navigation on my phone.
Just a tip for your wife: I had dog tags with my name and cellphone number made for my late husband. That way even if he was too disoriented to communicate, police/ambulance could get ahold of me.
When the attorney found out that the cat was chipped, the cat should have been returned to its rightful owners. Simple as that. This is more of a reflection on that attorney.
We were owned by a cat for a while. She had kittens and as they grew older she decided that she didn’t like being around them and chose to live next door. When we were moving, we asked those neighbors if they wanted to keep her, even though Socks had already chosen them, and they were happy to, especially their little girls who had named her Kitty Softpaws.
I'm so glad the thief finally returned Nubbins. His lack of morals doesn't make him a reputable attorney though. Wouldn't trust him for half a second. Cute story about Tommy being busy with his cat business in the woods. Cats have things to do.
I went for a walk with my sister and found a cat begging for attention. Turns out he was very sick and had maggots in his side. Turns out he was purposely burned. I still felt bad, the cat was awesome and feared that someone lost this cat. He was just too sweet to be a stray. When I mentioned this to the vet (who were awesome and even gave me a discount for the surgery for helping a 'stray' cat) the vet just sadly said to me, if someone had this cat, they didn't treat him good and shouldn't get him back. So yeah, he ended up with my sister....
I just lost my cat to cancer. She was 18 years old and everyone in the neighborhood appreciated her daily mole patrol. It still smarts each time I come home and "Mittens" is not there to greet me and expect to be let out/in. There is a special place in hell for people like the attorney in this story.
That happened to me on an Army base when the neighbor moved. Found out only because the they took in to vet to be fully vetted to take with them. I let them keep him knowing he’d be well loved there too. He was fenced in our yard but their girls practically lived there with him. Lol
My long-haired gray, spayed female cat will make life a living nightmare if she isn't allowed outside. We have made a deal though that she has to be inside at night. She grudgingly accepted and peace has reigned. Longest 6 months of my life was waiting post birth of kittens to her spay apt. Mopsy was not a happy kitty therefore no one was going to be happy. I kept her in because I didn't want more kittens. After she healed from her spaying I very distinctly heard her meow as I told her she could now go outside, "bout darn time you dense hoo-man!" She was back 2 hours later demanding food, and thus I am now a doorman for my cat. In and out until bedtime. I am but a servant of her whims *sigh*.
It’s about time the courts recognize house pets as more than just “property”. Taking someone’s animal should raise to the level of a second degree felony- minimum.
Were feeding some feral cats and found one in the middle of the road. Stopped, ascertained she was dead. Took her to the vet, no chip. She is sitting in a nice cedar box on the mantle. Sure she was feral but I felt I owed her more than just dumping her somewhere. Loved her in life, love her in death. RIP Kitty.
@Brass Dolphin Midnight Foot Feed Stealing a cat is a crime. Lots of cats are allowed to roam, instead of being held prisoner inside a house or apartment.
It does bring up questions about the lawyer's ethics and integrity. The instant the lawyer found out the cat was chipped he should have at least made an attempt to contact the owner. People put chips in cats to prove they are not stray and do have a home.
I own Fluffy, I rescued him as a little kitten, Now that we are a little old, He has become more important each day, If someone took him, It would most likely end badly for you and me, I cant afford an attorney but I can find you in a parking lot.
Hey Steve! Great reminiscence about Tommy the cat. Beautiful memory of playing with him in the box as a kitten. 16 years old, he had a really good run as an outdoor cat. Cheers to his memory!
I will only use TNR unless I can document the cat is truly feral. After decades in animal care, I was down to one 18 pound, 12 year old neutered male. He was a feral kitten & much prefers outdoor potty facilities so he is allowed out. Three years ago, we moved into this home, Emmett quickly adjusted to his porch & yard. After our neighbor passed away, I started to put food out as I knew he had a black cat. The origin of the doppelganger to MY cat who ate that food is unclear. Pretty rough looking with obvious ear mites, I gained his trust enough to scruff him into a carrier & haul him in for neuter. Fast forward a year & a half, despite ALL my previous experience, I never expected MY male & this 'stray' to tolerate each other BUT THEY DO!! Though Grayson, the new guy, isn't comfortable in the house, he's learned to trust our dog & is actually friends with Emmett. He clearly had had an owner once. He flops over submissively for attention, likes the comb & will tolerate a belly rub. I now have almost twin 18 pound grey cats. The universe sends us critters we're meant to have, I'm convinced! I'll have lots of them waiting on the other side for me. Edit: give Nubbins back ya jerk!! Thanks for being an attorney of good character Steve!
They do it because they're a thief. Thieves get pretty ridiculous about what they steal. It starts with coveting. Someone sees what they want. They decide that wanting it is enough justification to take it. They may also come up with excuses for stealing it: "Oh, those people aren't using it." "That truck was abandoned. It was OK to siphon gas from it." "That cat was abused-- why else would it be outdoors?"
Calvin the cat lives in our garden in good weather and on our porch (heated cat bed) during bad weather. A couple of the neighbors including us feed him. He ran away from home (across the street) and refuses to go back.
Whenever there is a stray/neighborhood cat in my area, it ALWAYS finds my house. It ALWAYS discovers that my wife’s car is a wonderful place to sleep. So much so, I got a personalized tag for her car that said “CATSBED”. Currently, sadly, we have no stray cats because we have coyotes in the woods near my house.
I took in a mature cat that had been left by tenants that had moved. Her name was "Frisky". What a clever name. Years later and being much older she died suddenly in the living room after an afternoon lap. She left a void. Found a kitten, a tabby" that was up for adoption that had been taken to a vet and gotten a health check and shots. Also, the spading was prepaid when the time comes when she is able to have kittens. Nice ending to a sad story.
A neighbor of mine was redoing his driveway and decided to put down stone in the front of his lawn along the road to form a parking space out front. He used a very fine gravel... that all the cats in the neighborhood started pooping into and covering up like it was kitty litter.
Did you not hear him? The cat is chipped, and the vet told him it wasn't a stray and that it's "Nubbins" is chipped. And even mentioned the cat by name as well as the owner.
Steve, this reminds me of a time fifty-five or so years ago. I was given a black rabbit named Thumper when I was six years old. He was an indoor and outdoor rabbit. Even though one of the neighbors had rabbit hunting dogs my rabbit was known all throughout the neighborhood. He would visit the neighbors up and down the street perhaps a block in each direction. Some folks would feed him and some would shoo him away. I remember my father was a traveling salesman and would stay gone for a week sometimes two weeks at a time. He would generally come home on Fridays around 5:30. That rabbit would be waiting beside the driveway for my father every Friday around 5:30 because my father had peanut butter crackers. He did this for years. At one point a neighbor that had not been in the neighborhood very long had her relatives come visit. And they kidnapped Thumper and took him 150 miles to Atlanta. Needless to say after threats of arrest Thumper was returned the following week. The father offered to buy him and I refused his offer.
Just to clarify: I just read an article on this and it said the person threatening a harrasment lawsuit wasn't the lawyer who took the cat but the air bnb owner who said to take the cat.
@@gregsaenz6566 I agree with disbarment. Once the trtue owner asked for the cat back and he willfully said no knowing it was their cat, he committed a crime.
Good story! I love bobtails they're very very smart. My Blackbird (on the left) and Harry have been around for years and I let them in when it's really cold. They don't wander much because of the coyotes in the area, they're smart farm cats. But if they did wander and someone just picked one of them up I'd be after that SOB like nobody's business. Perhaps this attorney should have in the back of his mind before he takes any action anywhere to follow social norms. There's plenty of ways to obtain a new cat and having it fixed for your daughter other than just gathering one up from the streets. Attorneys make mistakes all the time, they're human beings. But some of those mistakes are dumb and others are just mind-blowing. Although the story turned out well in the end, I was ready to talk about disbarment and/or charges for him, however it turned out well and he finally did the right thing and corrected his error. In my opinion this particular attorney makes the pot selling attorney look like a saint.
The problem where I live is our cat and local cats get to wander around, end up gone to predation. Owls, hawks, foxes. The woods here don’t lend themselves to longevity. My daughters toy rat terrier is an indoor dog for that reason. My big GSD is safe in the fenced part of the property.
@@denisemarie6997 yeah, you will never be bored with any kind of bobtail! I’ve had four and, as much as I love cats, there’s no ignoring a bobtail, even when they’re no longer kittens, it doesn’t seem to matter!
My daughter has an indoor mostly cat. He loves a neighbor down the street and will often visit that neighbor. Thank God that neighbor or anyone else tried to claim my daughter's cat after she has been the cats mom for eight years
@Brass Dolphin Midnight Foot Feed Out of all the world's problems? Yes, my critters are neutered. As they got older and were less nimble, they lived out their golden years beyond 20 in home of course.
LOL It’s literally just 50 bucks. I spend more money in hassle to fix some outdoor cats. I’m sorry, but if your cat is outside, it is not your cat. Indoor outdoor, sure . but an outside cat it’s just a stray even if you chipped it
One of our cats, "Cactus Attacktus" got mad at us adopting two other kittens, and found another neighbor to adopt. Miss him, but he is very happy in his new home, and that is what counts.
You know this is the problem we're having with people in America where everybody is turning into these assholes you have to deal with. This was an educated man who took nubbins the cat he was an attorney so therefore he knew how to fight a legal battle and he knew he was wrong, but yet instead of doing the right thing and apologizing and giving the cat back he wanted to flex his muscle and tried to keep it. I don't know what's going on in this country with people but my opinion on the whole situation is cell phones and electronic devices where people do not speak to one another they stay introverted and alone they communicate through texting and they don't see the real emotion in someone when you say something that hurts somebody nor do they see the happiness when you help someone. This is a perfect example of what I'm talking about right here. What a simple solution to a problem but it had to be drawn out until a judge had to tell this man to give the cat back.
Everyone remembers their for cat when a child. they are family members. We had a fat tabby named Joker. I was too little to remember when we got him. I was always the first one up in the morning. I used to watch Joker open the front door himself to let himself out. I'd get in trouble, and sometimes even swatted in the butt for letting him out. Until one morning, my mom witnessed him opening the door to let himself out. That day I got apologies, and ice cream.
Sounds like there's loads of behind the scenes complications involved in this story, I'm guessing (and it's purely a guess) the lawyers daughter fell in love with the cat, the Airbnb owner told the lawyer something like "it's a stray, you can take it if you like.". So the lawyer took the cat home which made him world's best Dad in his daughters eyes, then he finds out it's chipped and the owner wants it back, but if he gives it back he goes from world's best Dad, to world's worst Dad in his daughters eyes, but hay he's a lawyer maybe he can bully the owner into letting him keep the cat, which lets face it is a real dick move, even if it was for his daughter, but all in all I think the Airbnb owner has more than his fair share of blame in this story.
The lawyer who took the cat was 72 years old though. Of course it's not impossible for older men to get children, but don't know if it's the most likely scenario here.
Completely unreasonable, the cat was chipped and even if it had been picked up by animal control the owner would have gotten the cat back. Besides the cat would have returned home on it's own if it weren't for this a-hole. As for being lucky, the lawyer is lucky it wasn't my cat.
I can see this happening. When people ask about how the law treats pets, you have to tell them that generally pets are property. Their "value" is what it would cost to replace one. A rescue cat adopted from a shelter has a value of whatever the cost to adopt another shelter cat would be. Like ~$100 or so. People get mad about the circumstances under which their cat died and are surprised to hear that a court isn't going to award them a huge pile of money. Your sentimental attachment to your cat is like your attachment to your favorite sweater or skateboard. If it was an exotic cat that cost a fortune to adopt from a breeder, that's a different story -- your attachment is still meaningless, but the replacement cost might be thousands of dollars. But just like your sweater, you don't get "the cost of a new sweater". You get what roughly what a sweater similar to yours would cost to purchase used on eBay or at a flea market. You won't find a Scottish Fold or a Chaussie on eBay, so you're entitled to the legit replacement cost of a Scottish Fold or a Chaussie if that's what you lost. For a random "domestic shorhair", I could see a lawyer thinking "the worst that could happen is that I have to pay some random jerkoff $100 for the cat". Secretly, we cat people *want* a judge to do what this judge did. But as lawyers we know, generally, that "replevin" isn't often what a judge will order in a dispute about some trivial piece of property. But all that BS aside, an attorney knows full well that even if you don't know and cant establish who owns the cat, you know *it's not you*. It ain't your cat, buster. Taking what doesn't belong to you is theft even when you don't know who it does belong to. It's one of those things where the punishment for being this big an asshole is that you have to go through live being this big an asshole.
This is giving me some "PTSD" of living next to 2 feuding, cat hoarding, neighbors. At any given time there were probably 30 cats running around all over the place and they would accuse one another of stealing the others cats. 🙄 Truth is I think one of them actually did "steal" a couple... but it's not like they went far or that there weren't plenty of spares.
@@Subject_Keter Kinda... One neighbor would let them in her house, and probably feed them better, so they eventually just stopped going back. It usually took the other guy weeks or months to even notice. FWIW, the other guy really was a jackass. I'm generally anti-"let's have a hoard of feral cats", but since it was happening anyhow, I was on her side. 😆
I guess some of those, who take towels from hotels, thought that also applies to cats. P1: "Does your dog bite ?" P2: "No" dog bites P1 P1: "I thought you told me your dog does not bite !" P2: "That's not my dog"
There something in this story that you just skip over that bugs me. A vet saw that the cat was chipped and owned my someone else and still neutered the cat? Why is this not a bigger issue?
I'm in the UK, some friends living out in the country, nearest house about a mile away, had a pregnant cat turn up at their door. They took it in and it had her kittens in an outhouse, kittens grew and were found homes and they had the cat neutered. After a few weeks, the cat wandered off. The friends were later in a post office about 3 miles away and the cat was curled up asleep on the counter. They asked if it had a tendency to wander and were told it was always roaming. They didn't say what their cat had been doing and that it had been neutered.
As a cat “owner” you can’t own a cat. You serve them. I’ve been told I am pussy whipped by my cat ! She’s cute, adorable and very mild mannered. She was a stray and adopted me !
We had a cat that disappeared for about six weeks and appeared to have been taken well taken care of when she showed back up. We think someone close by tried to do this exact thing with her. But when she saw the opportunity, she left and came home.
I might be doing that on accident. I feed and rehabilitate strays (with the intention of capturing and rehoming them once they're back to being sociable sweeties), and every once in a while I'll find someone's housecat getting at the food.
An attorney steals a cat (or anything else) gets caught and refuses to return it
and the owner has to file suit to get his property back?
That attorney needs to be disbarred. He has demonstrated his lack of ethics and has
no place in the legal profession.
needs jailed for kitnapping
@@travismiller5548 - or cat napping?😆
purrloining a feline, 1st degree
this guy chases ambulances for a living doesnt he?
On the contrary, he is very unethical and that's why he is an attorney 😂😂
We had a barn cat that lived until he was 22. Everyone in our neighborhood liked him. He even had a cat bed in 3 different garages, and I used to see my neighbors' kids pushing him around in a baby carriage 😂 He loved attention.
A spoiled brat in other words. Awesome to hear that he had "chauffeurs" in the neighborhood.
Community cat. Nice!
Now replace "cat" with "wife". It will be a very interesting story.
That's a long-lived cat. I'm glad everyone involved enjoyed his presence and time in this world.
😉👍
@@LOUDMOUTHTYRONE We had a barn wife that lived until she was 22. Everyone in our neighborhood liked her. She even had a wife bed in 3 different garages, and I used to see my neighbors' kids pushing her around in a baby carriage 😂 She loved attention.
Three years ago one of our semi trailers came back from a town about 45 miles North. When the trailer was opened a young black cat bolted out across the dock and into the warehouse. It took several of us nearly three hours to find and capture the cat (it is a pretty big building that employees about 150 people). We had flyers posted around the town the cat had come from but nobody claimed her. She is still here as an outdoor cat that shows up every morning half an hour before work starts looking for breakfast and every break time looking for attention. We did get her spayed and in the spring/summer put anti-flea treatment on her once a month (a sure way to get shunned by her for the next two weeks or so). She has absolutely no fear of the large crowds outside at break and will meander through accepting attention from (nearly) anyone. I suppose she has no fear because she belongs to all of us at the warehouse. Anyone cruel/stupid enough to mistreat her would not only find themselves instantly unemployed but would most likely receive an epic beatdown from certain interested parties.
Here in ALBERTA, IF you take a cat or a dog that is chipped and you take it to the Vet, they will call the Owner. IF the owner says that no they did not give or sell the animal to you, it is SEIZED until the owner shows up.
That's the way it should work. In the US a lot of vets won't even scan for a chip when someone brings in a new pet because they are working for the person that brought it in and finding a chip would be counter to the interests of their client.
wondering why the vet didnt seize it. I would have.
@Brass Dolphin Midnight Foot Feed And courts have held that to be true of all pets EXCEPT cats. It is in a cats nature to roam. Roaming does not mean stray with cats. Feral on the other hand, is a stray cat with no human 'owner'.
@Brass Dolphin Midnight Foot Feed Heh, Right. Understanding the pet means abuse?
@Brass Dolphin Midnight Foot Feed you clearly have pent up feelings from some bad experience with a cat. Show us on the doll where the bad cat touched you
"... to the extent that you can OWN a cat."
Spoken like a TRUE cat "owner".
we do not own cats, cats own us
Dogs have owners, cats have staff.
As a cat servant I appreciate your acknowledging you can't actually own a cat.
Dogs have Masters, Cats have Staff!
My cat behaves as a spouse.
My cats have me very well trained!
I got lucky I guess, because I caught mine before Mama had taught them to be cautious of strangers. So I largely have trained them and having four sisters from the same litter makes life relatively easy.
@@fakjbf3129 At least they solved the mystery of the cats that died of alcohol poisoning. That was before my time with the game, but it's a hilarious story nonetheless.
Hey Pamela have you ever seen video it's so cute goes like this..
There is a owner feeding his dog petting his dog taking his dog on walks playing toys with him and the dog thinks and says "they are God.
An account owner does the same thing in the cat says I am God.
🤣🤣
So true tho
“To the extent you can own a cat.”
Wise words from a man who clearly understands that while dogs may have owners, cats only ever have staff.
@@shmeli That is not a requirement where I live.
@@shmeli Indeed.
@@shmeli For us in the UK it's more about what happens if your cat/dog caused an accident: you can be taken to court for failure to control your dog and you need insurance and a license. With a cat you need none of that as they are deemed "free" in the sense you have no realistic hope of controlling them when they are outside. Also, cats don't attack & kill/severely injure people if they have a bad temperament, are badly treated or goaded.
@@shmeli I had no ideas that was a thing. I found a dead cat on the sidewalk in front of my house one day when I got home. Had been hit by a passing car.
@@willer3399 Your reply is not in the comments, not sure why. I had called animal control, they advised me what to do.
I can see why they took the cat, perhaps they actually thought they had permission. But once they realized that someone wanted her back and that she was chipped how in the world could they think that they could keep her?
Arrogance and entitlement is why they thought they could keep her. Gross behavior from gross people.
@Brass Dolphin Midnight Foot Feed I agree, but that wasn't the case here....
A lawyer knows that taking something that you do not clearly own is unethical and illegal. He also knows that you can't just take any random person's word for it that it's OK to take a pet you don't own.
There is no aw-shucks-sorry-bout-the-misunderstandin' here.
@@TheBooban I think indoor cats are abused.
I have had many cats over the years many of them indoor turned outdoor with my current turning back into a indoor after getting on in her years. All of them preferred being out doors and would only willingly come in during thunderstorms. Cats by nature are curious and exploratory creatures and being indoors can be a very boring life to them. To say they are not and cannot be well taken care of when they live outdoors is false. To claim it irresponsible because of environmental impact is another debate but cats are well suited to live outdoors and have for much of human history.
"To the extent that you can own a cat"... How true... 'dogs have owners, cats have staff'
My husband joined our marriage with a fantastic, huge, black cat. We loved him! Husband’s overbearing sister managed to bully my husband out of the cat. Her neighbors became enamored of Ace, the cat, and when they sold their house and moved away they stole our cat from her! I never saw a cat so loved by so many. It’s been forty years, and I still miss that cat.
I had an indoor/outdoor cat that lived for 21 years. Her name was Ashley, and she was a beautiful grey tuxedo. I lived in a trailer court out in the country, when Ashley was about 3 years old. I had a fenced in yard and the top of the fencing was flat plank, and Ashley would walk on that...looking down to jump onto mice, snakes, birds, and dogs.
One summer, a really pathetic 'clan' of people moved a trashy single wide into the spot next to my home...they were always drinking, fighting and just horrible as far as dumping trash on the ground etc. There were 3 men, 2 women and 3 kids living in that single wide.
One Friday I was outside picking up some pinecones before I mowed, and Ashley was on the fence next to me. One of the men came up to me and started to pet her and asked me if I knew who owned the cat. I told him, that I did. And he asked if he could buy her for $5.00 because he never saw a cat chase a dog before...which Ashley would do sometimes.
I told him she wasn't for sale...and he kind of got this odd look to his face as he nodded and walked off. I often let Ashley stay outside on Saturdays, if it was nice outside, as I worked a short day on Saturday. But the next day, being Saturday, I decided I wasn't going to let her out....nor was she going to go outside unless I was out there keeping an eye on her.
I'm glad I trusted my instincts. I kept Ashley in the house Saturday and Sunday. Monday morning I stepped out side to go to work and those folks had 'skipped' out of the trailer park...they sawed the sewer pipe, water pipes, left the trailer skirting and wood blocks just laying there and took off in the middle of the night....owing the trailer park space rent.
I found out from a neighbor a few days later, that Saturday, she heard one of the men walking around the outside of my fence, calling "Here kitty, kitty." Yeah, the guy was looking for MY Cat! I'm glad I listened to my gut instinct to lock up my cat and keep an eye on her when she did go outside that weekend.
I'm surprised the vet even let the man keep the cat, especially if the vet recognized the cat. When we found a stray a few months ago and the vet found a chip, they informed us and then contacted the owner (who lived ~30 miles away! cat was gone for months apparently), but didnt let us have the cat back in case we bolted before the owner had a chance to respond. I'm not sure what would have happened if the owner couldnt be reached, I think the vet was gonna hold her for 24 hours then let us have her.
“In case we bolted with the cat” The vet straight out assumed the worst of you.
@@pansepot1490 haha i probably phrased that bad, we explained the situation and it was all very cordial, but I'm sure there's those situations where someone would try to steal the animal so the vet takes precautions!
Not as likely w/ cats but for some dog breeds that stuff can happen & its sad.
yep, they hold the cat for a set amount of time or until the owner contacts them and say they don't want it any more. if the owner cannot be found or be contacted then after a set time you are allowed to fill out the adoption paperwork and usually there is a small fee to transfer ownership over to you with the microchip company so it register to you and your address. If owner cannot be contacted, depending on the country or state or city, it could be required to go the the pound for a few weeks until it's deemed abandoned first, or set number of days like 30 days for the owner to return contact and claim the cat then you have to hand it back to the old owner.
@@pansepot1490 Besides being the cautious assumption, the vet is presumably reasonably intelligent and recognizes the potential legal problems if they send the animal home with somebody when they believe they don't have legal possession of it.
The “I am not a cat” lawyer should have been involved in this.
Ask yourself what kind of law does this "attorney" practice when he would steal what he already confirmed was owned by someone else?
The answer could be very, very scary.
I'm guessing tax law?
Probably eventually get into politics.
I bet he defends cat burglars.
@@danrobrish3664 Well, he attempted to be one!
He's a business trial lawyer.
Cat Burglar! Literally!
@Brass Dolphin Midnight Foot Feed Permanently Borrowed!
No, a cat burglar is the cat who left our neighbor's duplex through the dog door, came in the cat door of our duplex, and stole a ham hock off my counter. According to her humans, she likely shared it with their Irish setter. Those two were allegedly partners in crime. I locked the cat door after that; it was installed by the previous tenants for their "son" Shaughnessy, whom they had saved from being drowned on a farm in the midwest. The neighborhood cats taught him how to be a cat, since he was taken from his mother too early. Shaughnessy's parents eventually had a human son and a human daughter, but he remained part of the family.
Why wasn't that attorney arrested and charged with theft?
@Brass Dolphin Midnight Foot Feed For cats, abusive would be keeping it imprisoned.
So...let me get this straight...a lawyer decided it was a good idea to take someone's pet which was chipped, etc? Isn't that...you know...theft?
What the hell?
Laws don't matter to many lawyers. Heck, I knew a inmate paralegal who threatened to sue his girlfriend if she didn't bring in contraband.
Yeah... And he was skilled enough he probably would have won, but it would have had to be over something else.
"I hate talking about animals, when I don't know their names!" I was at the gym listening. I bust out laughing! 😆😆😆 hilarious
When the atty took the cat, that wasn’t necessarily theft. When the atty found out it was chipped and kept it anyway, that might not have been theft. When the owner contacted him and demanded the cat back and the atty said “no”, then that’s theft and the owner should sue for damages and the atty should face investigation by the state bar.
once you find out its chipped and have said chip scanned, you are now in fact in possession of a stolen animal, so yea its theft at that point.
Not sure the attorney should be disbarred, but this should absolutely be filed with their state's bar. Taking the cat was a bit dodgy already, but refusing to give it back was conduct unbecoming an officer of the court.
I also think the owner should not settle, so that in fact the attorney has that crime on their record.
I was wondering why that wouldn't be a criminal case. Steve can you elaborate?
@@absalomdraconis The chip only establishes that somebody chipped the cat at some time in the past. it's only when somebody claims to (still) own the cat and the chip confirms that they're claiming ownership of the right cat that the legal burden for theft is met.
I once stole a cat named Toonces. Fleeing in my car during the getaway, Toonces pushed me to the passenger seat and took control of the wheel. That cat took me on a wild ride that I'll never soon forget. It ended with a fiery crash off the edge of a cliff.
Cats have 9 lives, how about you?
😂 forgot about him.
Toonses Toonses Toonses the Driving Cat! I'm old, too! That cat was such a crummy driver....
"The neighbors have a really loud Harley Davidson... feel free to take it when you leave"
I had a similar experience with my cat Luna when she was about 3 years old. She and her sister Callie were rescues. They were outdoor cats in a quiet neighbourhood. They were both micro-chipped. One day Luna vanished. I filed a report and went down to the local humane society to check the lost cats. There was no sign of her. There was a cat room I wasn’t invited to look in. I asked about it and asked to have a look. Oh, no, they said, those are cats do if their quarantine after being turned over by their owners. For some reason I was very persistent and asked to have a look. And for some reason they let me. There was Luna, I recognized her immediately. That can’t be, they said, and showed me a card with some made up information about her name and why she’d been brought in. The woman had claimed she was moving away and couldn’t take the cat. She’s microchipped, I pointed out. With my name. They checked the microchip and sure enough…
Then they wanted me to pay the $50 (at the time) adoption fee. I refused and told them to collect it from the woman who’d brought in my cat. They relented. I called the police, afraid that this might happen again. The police said they couldn’t lay cat-napping charges but an officer did go over to talk to the woman, though I never found out who it was. The woman claimed that she’d mistaken my cat for hers. Which made no sense whatsoever. it never happened again. Luna is alive and well today, as is her sister Callie. They are getting close to celebrating their 20th birthdays.
Yikes! That sounds crazy! Some people weren't doing due diligence. It used to be that microchip readers would only read one brand of microchip, but I think the companies got their act together. Now it's typical for microchip readers to be able to read multiple brands. So there's no excuse these days, except in the cases where the microchip shifts around or something.
Had to put mine and my late wife's 18 year old cat in October of 19. Second roughest loss next to my wife due to her being also a companion that mourned my wife with me ( don't let anyone tell you they're just dumb animals, she may not have grasped the deep concept of death but she mourned) and that cat was adamant that she was a house cat with the operative word being house. I did work at a paper supplier for 28 years where we had a shop cat my first 12 years there. I was instantly that cat's bestest buddy where Mondays or Tuesdays after a long weekend I had to pull orders with that cat riding my shoulders because his buddy had been away for a few days. Neighboring businesses knew him,we would have customers come in for pick up,drive away and look in their rear view mirror to see ol Puff just sitting on cartons of paper looking very pleased to be going for a ride as we would see said customer pull back in to the lot,open their driver's door and out would hop Puff very pleased with himself.
Apparently ol Puff got around and was a bit of a feline celebrity in the area as one morning I stopped at a kwiky mart type store about a mile or so from the shoo for smokes on the way in one morning and had the shop owner tell me to wait a second and sliced off some ham from the deli to bring to Puff and the kwiky mart wasn't one of our customers but somehow saw the company name on my shirt and knew about Puff. Unlike a lot of outdoor cats that just don't come home one day Puff started to slow down and one day one of the secretaries at the business next door came to us and our employer with an offer to take Puff to her home and take over his care and it was generally agreed that since Puff was getting up there in age it was probably best that he be taken by someone to let him live out what days he had left somewhere other than a warehouse sleeping on whatever pallet of paper or envelopes struck his fancy and agreed. The secretary kept us updated as how Puff was doing and would bring him by to visit from time to time ( and yes I would let him ride my shoulders for a bit but have to put him down rather than just let him jump to the nearest acknowledged of paper) and then one morning about a year after Puff retired to the home life we got word that Puff had passed peacefully in his sleep overnight.
My country used to have a substantial railway network (mostly closed down now, so the roads can be filled with trucks instead). A network of railway maintenance workshops and yards throughout the country included large "stores" warehouses at certain main cities. Upon occasional visits to the nearest stores warehouse to collect requisitioned materials, where they had an OFFICIAL resident cat. Cat food was supplied as part of the departmental budget and the cat had an official "job number" so if it needed Vetinarian care, then the fees would be paid. Daytimes the cat half slept in a basket on a desk in the store's office being friendly to visitors, but night times it would prowl as a mouse and rat capture and destroy system, getting into places that humans cannot.
@@KiwiCatherineJemma oh yes while my wife and I used to joke our cat was the mouser that never mouser when she was 9 years old I saw her chasing around and thinking maybe she was batting around one of her milk rings only to find her beating a mouse to death so she at least racked up one confirmed rodent kill for her record. Puff on the other hand took an extreme pride in his job he'd bring us frogs ( fortunately the frogs were really good at playing dead so once our fearsome hunter was praised we'd sneak the poor frog out and release it) and mice etc.
One of the best stories about Puff was one of my bosses was in their office and they kept hearing this thunk noise of something bouncing off the full length office window behind her on seemingly regular interval. After a few more thunks she turned around to see Puff with his latest prize pick it up by it's tail,swing his head to one side and then bring his head back around rapidly and release the mouse where it would thunk against the window. He repeated this until such time as the boss in question opened the window so that he could enter and get ear skritches for his successful mouse hunt.
I will never, ever forget my first cat Albert. I've had many pets since then, but he was the first and the most beloved. I had 4 brothers, no sisters, and he was a source of comfort and love during tough times for 15 years. I also still remember my grandmother's cats huge, double-paw,, Smokey all gray and Powderfuff gray with white paws-- In our house pets were and are family members, all of them. Including Irving the chameleon who lived in a large geranium plant in a sunny window in our living room.
The fact that the lawyer isn't in jail already for theft seems pretty telling.
I'm glad that this story had a happy ending. It reminded me of a song by Sonny James titled: ''The Cat Came Back'' which I had on a 78rpm disc way back in the late 50's. Kids love this song, and I recommend you give it a listen. Be sure to get the 1956 version by Sonny James, as it is the best one out of all the subsequent releases and copys that followed over the years. Here are the lyrycs:
The Cat Came Back (1956)
Song by Sonny James
Lyrics
The cat came back, The cat came back,
I thought it was a goner but the cat came back
'Cause it wouldn't stay away
Now old Uncle John had troubles of his own
Had an ol' yeller cat that wouldn't leave home
He tried everything he knew to keep the cat away
Even gave it to a preacher an' he told him for to stay
But the cat came back, the cat came back
I thought it was a goner but the cat came back
'Cause it wouldn't stay away
Now they gave the ol' cat to the man in a balloon
They told him to leave him with the man in the moon
The balloon it bursted and everybody said
Ten miles away, they picked the man up dead
But the cat came back, the cat came back
I thought it was a goner but the cat came back
'Cause it wouldn't stay away
Now the farmer on the corner's gonna kill a cat at sight
He's loaded up his gun full of nails an' dynamite
Well He waited in the garden 'til the cat came around
Seven little pieces of the man was all they found
But the cat came back, the cat came back
I thought it was a goner but the cat came back
'Cause it wouldn't stay away
Well the cat was a terror and he thought it was best
To give it to a fella who was headin' out west
The train it went around the corner an' it hit a broken rail
Not a soul aboard the train lived to tell the tale
But the cat came back, the cat came back
I thought it was a goner but the cat came back
'Cause he wouldn't stay away
Meow!
I remember seeing a cartoon with this song in it when I was a kid.
@@babypackrat9118 Not it's stuck in my head and my fiancée just barely started playing it with the home digital nosey bitch.
What the attorney did was wrong and he knew it. After hearing a story like this, he may suffer from a lack of clients.
or after hearing he lost his case, depending on the quality of the clients.
My husband and I got a calico at a yard sale for free. Lived in an apartment complex(?) 4 attached apartments with grass around. Total of 8 such buildings. Named her Spitfire, she was a people cat. Had a cat door in the front window. When we left to go any where she would go out the window and to the apartment next door & meow at the door. They would let her in. When we came back (guess she recognized the Willy's engine sound) they would let her out and she would be at our door waiting to go in with us. She wasn't our first cat. When first moved into the place the previous people moved into a back apartment we inherited their cat. He would not move with them. He was a free roaming cat that is why the cat window was put in. His name was Casper, a white cat, he would fall asleep anywhere didn't matter what he was doing. Many a time he would be face down in the food dish, luckily it was never the water bowl. He loved people except his original owners, (a lady with 9 kids), tolerated other cats. He was a terror to any dogs though. He took after them. One apartment had a vicious pit bull, after Casper had a "TALK" with him that dog would cringe at any thing. He pead when he heard a cat meow.
I saw a Lamborghini outside my Airbnb. Can I keep it? The neighbor said I can have it. Come on Mom, please. It followed me home.
🤪🤪✔️
@Brass Dolphin Midnight Foot Feed even if a Lamborghini ends up on your property you don't get to keep it. You can have it removed at the owners expense but it doesn't become yours.
@Brass Dolphin Midnight Foot Feed look at his long the auto had to have been left there for it to be determined to be abandoned
We moved into the country from Milwaukee. My brother had a tomcat named Frisbee. All the farmer's cats in the area were orange. After Frisbee arrived suddenly all the kittens were black and white. We were over at a farmer's barn getting fresh milk when Frisbee came up to be petted. We naturally made a big deal over him. The farmer asked if we knew that cat and my mother explained it was our cat. He said all the farmers had wondered where that cat came from because he had a pretty good range and was definitely the dominant tom. He lived to a ripe old age before we put him down. He had all his shots, we took care of him, and our German Shepherd always greeted him enthusiastically when he came home. He knew where home was too. This was in the early 70's.
This is so funny, not that Nubbin's was fought over, but that he was 'chipped' and that wasn't enough proof till
a judge had to render a ruling.
My funny story was las night I mentioned to a store clerk that I'm surprised my wife hasn't had me chipped seeing
how often my navigation skills seem to be lacking, even when going somewhere I've been to the previous month.
She didn't have me chipped. Uses those darn Apple GPS Gizmo's. Much better in she doesn't have to call the vet to find out where I am at. I know where my butt is at, just get lost sometimes. Thank God for Navigation on my phone.
Just a tip for your wife: I had dog tags with my name and cellphone number made for my late husband. That way even if he was too disoriented to communicate, police/ambulance could get ahold of me.
When the attorney found out that the cat was chipped, the cat should have been returned to its rightful owners. Simple as that. This is more of a reflection on that attorney.
Yes, I thought that was the purpose of the chip.
We were owned by a cat for a while. She had kittens and as they grew older she decided that she didn’t like being around them and chose to live next door. When we were moving, we asked those neighbors if they wanted to keep her, even though Socks had already chosen them, and they were happy to, especially their little girls who had named her Kitty Softpaws.
I'm so glad the thief finally returned Nubbins. His lack of morals doesn't make him a reputable attorney though. Wouldn't trust him for half a second.
Cute story about Tommy being busy with his cat business in the woods. Cats have things to do.
Ben playing peek a boo around Steve's head, leaning against centre mic
I went for a walk with my sister and found a cat begging for attention. Turns out he was very sick and had maggots in his side. Turns out he was purposely burned. I still felt bad, the cat was awesome and feared that someone lost this cat. He was just too sweet to be a stray. When I mentioned this to the vet (who were awesome and even gave me a discount for the surgery for helping a 'stray' cat) the vet just sadly said to me, if someone had this cat, they didn't treat him good and shouldn't get him back. So yeah, he ended up with my sister....
"... to the extent that you can own a cat." No truer words have ever been spoken. :D
I just lost my cat to cancer. She was 18 years old and everyone in the neighborhood appreciated her daily mole patrol. It still smarts each time I come home and "Mittens" is not there to greet me and expect to be let out/in.
There is a special place in hell for people like the attorney in this story.
I've heard attorneys are well known for cat napping?
I've heard of cat napping, but this is something completely different! I mean, seriously, who steals a cat? That's gotta be the lowest of the low.
That happened to me on an Army base when the neighbor moved. Found out only because the they took in to vet to be fully vetted to take with them. I let them keep him knowing he’d be well loved there too. He was fenced in our yard but their girls practically lived there with him. Lol
If this attorney still has a license to practice, they need to go after it. He’s the lawyer that give lawyers a bad name.
My long-haired gray, spayed female cat will make life a living nightmare if she isn't allowed outside. We have made a deal though that she has to be inside at night. She grudgingly accepted and peace has reigned. Longest 6 months of my life was waiting post birth of kittens to her spay apt. Mopsy was not a happy kitty therefore no one was going to be happy. I kept her in because I didn't want more kittens. After she healed from her spaying I very distinctly heard her meow as I told her she could now go outside, "bout darn time you dense hoo-man!" She was back 2 hours later demanding food, and thus I am now a doorman for my cat. In and out until bedtime. I am but a servant of her whims *sigh*.
@Colleen, you were *always* the maid, butler and chef and will always be and now doorwoman. ;o)
Cats are just gross pets. I cannot imagine how much cat piss is all over your house.
@@_PatrickO why would you assume their house stunk? This was an unnecessary & inflammatory comment. Don't like cats? Fine but many do.
@@katiekane5247 He's a downer just ignore him 'cause there's always going to be one in the group,
Dogs have owners, cats have employees. I have 4, I know
I think your cat Tommy was confused and thought he was a dog! That’s an amazing cat you had!!! ✨🐈✨ Thanks for sharing that story! Loved it!!
There's a couple breeds like that.
@@absalomdraconis That’s awesome! I’ve never heard of a cat like that
It’s about time the courts recognize house pets as more than just “property”. Taking someone’s animal should raise to the level of a second degree felony- minimum.
Were feeding some feral cats and found one in the middle of the road. Stopped, ascertained she was dead. Took her to the vet, no chip. She is sitting in a nice cedar box on the mantle. Sure she was feral but I felt I owed her more than just dumping her somewhere. Loved her in life, love her in death. RIP Kitty.
Could that be something the lawyer is reported to the bar about? Thought coming from Lawyers should be held to a higher standard.
@Brass Dolphin Midnight Foot Feed Stealing a cat is a crime. Lots of cats are allowed to roam, instead of being held prisoner inside a house or apartment.
It does bring up questions about the lawyer's ethics and integrity. The instant the lawyer found out the cat was chipped he should have at least made an attempt to contact the owner. People put chips in cats to prove they are not stray and do have a home.
I own Fluffy, I rescued him as a little kitten, Now that we are a little old, He has become more important each day, If someone took him, It would most likely end badly for you and me, I cant afford an attorney but I can find you in a parking lot.
This is one reason why I never let my cats out.
I think Steve teared up a bit, here. 😥 Happy ending for "Nubbins" and disgrace to the lawyer who "cat burgled" him.
@Brass Dolphin Midnight Foot Feed No one disputes that. It's his subsequent behaviour that was outrageous.
Or “katnapped” nubbins
@Brass Dolphin Midnight Foot Feed I don't normally feed trolls, but I'll bite. How was the cat being abused?
Hey Steve! Great reminiscence about Tommy the cat. Beautiful memory of playing with him in the box as a kitten. 16 years old, he had a really good run as an outdoor cat. Cheers to his memory!
Hope the attorney that stole the cat has to pay court fees and the owner's attorney fees.
"To the extent you can own a cat." 😀
I will only use TNR unless I can document the cat is truly feral. After decades in animal care, I was down to one 18 pound, 12 year old neutered male. He was a feral kitten & much prefers outdoor potty facilities so he is allowed out. Three years ago, we moved into this home, Emmett quickly adjusted to his porch & yard. After our neighbor passed away, I started to put food out as I knew he had a black cat. The origin of the doppelganger to MY cat who ate that food is unclear. Pretty rough looking with obvious ear mites, I gained his trust enough to scruff him into a carrier & haul him in for neuter. Fast forward a year & a half, despite ALL my previous experience, I never expected MY male & this 'stray' to tolerate each other BUT THEY DO!!
Though Grayson, the new guy, isn't comfortable in the house, he's learned to trust our dog & is actually friends with Emmett. He clearly had had an owner once. He flops over submissively for attention, likes the comb & will tolerate a belly rub. I now have almost twin 18 pound grey cats. The universe sends us critters we're meant to have, I'm convinced! I'll have lots of them waiting on the other side for me.
Edit: give Nubbins back ya jerk!!
Thanks for being an attorney of good character Steve!
I have no clue why someone would steal a cat. They're everywhere in pounds and shelters for free
They do it because they're a thief. Thieves get pretty ridiculous about what they steal. It starts with coveting. Someone sees what they want. They decide that wanting it is enough justification to take it. They may also come up with excuses for stealing it: "Oh, those people aren't using it." "That truck was abandoned. It was OK to siphon gas from it." "That cat was abused-- why else would it be outdoors?"
This attorney should be disbarred for clearly stealing property and refusing to bring the cat back after learning about it's owner.
Calvin the cat lives in our garden in good weather and on our porch (heated cat bed) during bad weather. A couple of the neighbors including us feed him. He ran away from home (across the street) and refuses to go back.
I worked at a college. There was a cat that wandered around there. It had a collar with a tag that read, "I am not lost" "I live near the college."
Whenever there is a stray/neighborhood cat in my area, it ALWAYS finds my house. It ALWAYS discovers that my wife’s car is a wonderful place to sleep. So much so, I got a personalized tag for her car that said “CATSBED”. Currently, sadly, we have no stray cats because we have coyotes in the woods near my house.
I took in a mature cat that had been left by tenants that had moved. Her name was "Frisky". What a clever name. Years later and being much older she died suddenly in the living room after an afternoon lap. She left a void. Found a kitten, a tabby" that was up for adoption that had been taken to a vet and gotten a health check and shots. Also, the spading was prepaid when the time comes when she is able to have kittens. Nice ending to a sad story.
@FORTRAN4ever :
The tabby was prepaid for burial ("spading"), or was she prepaid for neutering ("spaying")?
my grandma died 2 years ago and i go by and feed her cats every day. one of them is ancient.
On some level, this has to qualify as theft.
Maybe it sounds extreme, but he should be sanctioned by the bar, if he is still an active attorney.
A neighbor of mine was redoing his driveway and decided to put down stone in the front of his lawn along the road to form a parking space out front. He used a very fine gravel... that all the cats in the neighborhood started pooping into and covering up like it was kitty litter.
That Attorney should be punished for filing such a lawsuit.
Right, disbarred and jailed for a month or 2. That is a clear case of intentional theft.
Did you not hear him? The cat is chipped, and the vet told him it wasn't a stray and that it's "Nubbins" is chipped. And even mentioned the cat by name as well as the owner.
I'm glad Nubbins was given back to her family. The name cracks me up! 😸
Steve, this reminds me of a time fifty-five or so years ago. I was given a black rabbit named Thumper when I was six years old. He was an indoor and outdoor rabbit. Even though one of the neighbors had rabbit hunting dogs my rabbit was known all throughout the neighborhood. He would visit the neighbors up and down the street perhaps a block in each direction. Some folks would feed him and some would shoo him away. I remember my father was a traveling salesman and would stay gone for a week sometimes two weeks at a time. He would generally come home on Fridays around 5:30. That rabbit would be waiting beside the driveway for my father every Friday around 5:30 because my father had peanut butter crackers. He did this for years. At one point a neighbor that had not been in the neighborhood very long had her relatives come visit. And they kidnapped Thumper and took him 150 miles to Atlanta. Needless to say after threats of arrest Thumper was returned the following week. The father offered to buy him and I refused his offer.
@Brass Dolphin Midnight Foot Feed You should have kept your dumb opinions to yourself. You are an abuser.
Rabbit make a much better stew than cat. Just sayin'.
@Brass Dolphin Midnight Foot Feed You're a child. Stop using inflammatory terms you don't know; it makes you look ridiculous.
Great story, Steve. I also loved hearing about Tommy's adventures.
Just to clarify: I just read an article on this and it said the person threatening a harrasment lawsuit wasn't the lawyer who took the cat but the air bnb owner who said to take the cat.
Still should disbar that lawyer. He knows the cat is not his and that it had a documented owner. He took it anyways.
@@_PatrickO probably not a disbarment but a published reprimand is definitely in order.
@@gregsaenz6566 I agree with disbarment. Once the trtue owner asked for the cat back and he willfully said no knowing it was their cat, he committed a crime.
So a lawyer did steal the cat? He should understand how poor his defense was.
@@kiwiproductions4510 when he said nobody can own a cat so that makes him the cat's new owner was the point he demonstrated unfitness to me.
It will only be a happy ending if the cat thief is charged with the theft, and dis barred
Good story! I love bobtails they're very very smart. My Blackbird (on the left) and Harry have been around for years and I let them in when it's really cold. They don't wander much because of the coyotes in the area, they're smart farm cats. But if they did wander and someone just picked one of them up I'd be after that SOB like nobody's business. Perhaps this attorney should have in the back of his mind before he takes any action anywhere to follow social norms. There's plenty of ways to obtain a new cat and having it fixed for your daughter other than just gathering one up from the streets. Attorneys make mistakes all the time, they're human beings. But some of those mistakes are dumb and others are just mind-blowing. Although the story turned out well in the end, I was ready to talk about disbarment and/or charges for him, however it turned out well and he finally did the right thing and corrected his error. In my opinion this particular attorney makes the pot selling attorney look like a saint.
I'm almost surprised that the vet didn't keep the cat and contact the owner and hold it until he came to pick it up.
The problem where I live is our cat and local cats get to wander around, end up gone to predation. Owls, hawks, foxes. The woods here don’t lend themselves to longevity. My daughters toy rat terrier is an indoor dog for that reason. My big GSD is safe in the fenced part of the property.
What a nice video with wholesome commentary and stories.
I’ve had several Bobtail cats. This one sounds like a Japanese Bobtail. Wonderful cats!!!
They are all wonderful! The mutts are especially wonderful!
@@denisemarie6997 yeah, you will never be bored with any kind of bobtail! I’ve had four and, as much as I love cats, there’s no ignoring a bobtail, even when they’re no longer kittens, it doesn’t seem to matter!
My daughter has an indoor mostly cat. He loves a neighbor down the street and will often visit that neighbor. Thank God that neighbor or anyone else tried to claim my daughter's cat after she has been the cats mom for eight years
You would think the cat-snatcher attorney would more worried about his reputation???
If attorneys worried about their reputations, many would starve.
Cars and "rescuers" are the reasons that my cats are not allowed out of the house.
I don't get it when lawyers of all people do this sort of thing. Not only is it immoral, but they're risking their entire career
He's in his seventies, and is likely retired.
Loved the stories about Tommy. Glad to hear Nubbins has to be sent home.
Bring back Nubbins!!! An attorney no less. Yes, I've only owned outdoor cats. Nothing wrong with that.
If they are neutered, sure.
I am against "outdoor cats" in urban areas for obvious reasons.
@Brass Dolphin Midnight Foot Feed nope tis you are the problem. Animals were here first, you're the invader.
@Brass Dolphin Midnight Foot Feed name one cat that listens to you.
Except for the number of wild birds that succumb to your "pet".
@Brass Dolphin Midnight Foot Feed Out of all the world's problems? Yes, my critters are neutered. As they got older and were less nimble, they lived out their golden years beyond 20 in home of course.
Very smart owner by keeping info up to date on cat's chip.
If you through the expense and hassle to microchip a cat, its hard for me to believe you would abuse it.
LOL It’s literally just 50 bucks. I spend more money in hassle to fix some outdoor cats. I’m sorry, but if your cat is outside, it is not your cat. Indoor outdoor, sure . but an outside cat it’s just a stray even if you chipped it
One of our cats, "Cactus Attacktus" got mad at us adopting two other kittens, and found another neighbor to adopt. Miss him, but he is very happy in his new home, and that is what counts.
“What is Tommy doing out in the woods?”
Killing song birds.
They deserve it, waking everyone up at the crack of dawn with their chirping.
"To the extend you can own a cat" no truer words have been said
You know this is the problem we're having with people in America where everybody is turning into these assholes you have to deal with. This was an educated man who took nubbins the cat he was an attorney so therefore he knew how to fight a legal battle and he knew he was wrong, but yet instead of doing the right thing and apologizing and giving the cat back he wanted to flex his muscle and tried to keep it. I don't know what's going on in this country with people but my opinion on the whole situation is cell phones and electronic devices where people do not speak to one another they stay introverted and alone they communicate through texting and they don't see the real emotion in someone when you say something that hurts somebody nor do they see the happiness when you help someone. This is a perfect example of what I'm talking about right here. What a simple solution to a problem but it had to be drawn out until a judge had to tell this man to give the cat back.
Everyone remembers their for cat when a child. they are family members. We had a fat tabby named Joker. I was too little to remember when we got him. I was always the first one up in the morning. I used to watch Joker open the front door himself to let himself out. I'd get in trouble, and sometimes even swatted in the butt for letting him out. Until one morning, my mom witnessed him opening the door to let himself out. That day I got apologies, and ice cream.
Sounds like there's loads of behind the scenes complications involved in this story, I'm guessing (and it's purely a guess) the lawyers daughter fell in love with the cat, the Airbnb owner told the lawyer something like "it's a stray, you can take it if you like.". So the lawyer took the cat home which made him world's best Dad in his daughters eyes, then he finds out it's chipped and the owner wants it back, but if he gives it back he goes from world's best Dad, to world's worst Dad in his daughters eyes, but hay he's a lawyer maybe he can bully the owner into letting him keep the cat, which lets face it is a real dick move, even if it was for his daughter, but all in all I think the Airbnb owner has more than his fair share of blame in this story.
The lawyer who took the cat was 72 years old though. Of course it's not impossible for older men to get children, but don't know if it's the most likely scenario here.
“In the extent of you can own the cat” well played attorney, well played…
I'm glad this crappy person had to give the cat back. Try to take one of my dogs and see what happens to you. One hint, it wont end up in civil court.
Completely unreasonable, the cat was chipped and even if it had been picked up by animal control the owner would have gotten the cat back. Besides the cat would have returned home on it's own if it weren't for this a-hole. As for being lucky, the lawyer is lucky it wasn't my cat.
With so many cats in shelters, waiting for adoption, I can't understand stealing someone else's pet.
I can see this happening. When people ask about how the law treats pets, you have to tell them that generally pets are property. Their "value" is what it would cost to replace one. A rescue cat adopted from a shelter has a value of whatever the cost to adopt another shelter cat would be. Like ~$100 or so. People get mad about the circumstances under which their cat died and are surprised to hear that a court isn't going to award them a huge pile of money. Your sentimental attachment to your cat is like your attachment to your favorite sweater or skateboard.
If it was an exotic cat that cost a fortune to adopt from a breeder, that's a different story -- your attachment is still meaningless, but the replacement cost might be thousands of dollars. But just like your sweater, you don't get "the cost of a new sweater". You get what roughly what a sweater similar to yours would cost to purchase used on eBay or at a flea market. You won't find a Scottish Fold or a Chaussie on eBay, so you're entitled to the legit replacement cost of a Scottish Fold or a Chaussie if that's what you lost.
For a random "domestic shorhair", I could see a lawyer thinking "the worst that could happen is that I have to pay some random jerkoff $100 for the cat".
Secretly, we cat people *want* a judge to do what this judge did. But as lawyers we know, generally, that "replevin" isn't often what a judge will order in a dispute about some trivial piece of property.
But all that BS aside, an attorney knows full well that even if you don't know and cant establish who owns the cat, you know *it's not you*. It ain't your cat, buster. Taking what doesn't belong to you is theft even when you don't know who it does belong to. It's one of those things where the punishment for being this big an asshole is that you have to go through live being this big an asshole.
Anyone who would steal someone else's family member should face summary execution.
@@marcushoward6560 I agree. But you can't rely on the legal system to treat them as anything other than objects.
@@grayaj23 Oh, I wasn't disagreeing with you.
Nubbins: what a great name for a bob tail. (: So glad Nubbins is back home.
This is giving me some "PTSD" of living next to 2 feuding, cat hoarding, neighbors. At any given time there were probably 30 cats running around all over the place and they would accuse one another of stealing the others cats. 🙄
Truth is I think one of them actually did "steal" a couple... but it's not like they went far or that there weren't plenty of spares.
Lol "She sold my strays by feeding them at a time I couldnt counter feed them!"
@@Subject_Keter Kinda... One neighbor would let them in her house, and probably feed them better, so they eventually just stopped going back. It usually took the other guy weeks or months to even notice.
FWIW, the other guy really was a jackass. I'm generally anti-"let's have a hoard of feral cats", but since it was happening anyhow, I was on her side. 😆
I guess some of those, who take towels from hotels, thought that also applies to cats.
P1: "Does your dog bite ?"
P2: "No"
dog bites P1
P1: "I thought you told me your dog does not bite !"
P2: "That's not my dog"
There something in this story that you just skip over that bugs me.
A vet saw that the cat was chipped and owned my someone else and still neutered the cat? Why is this not a bigger issue?
Where's your proof?
I'm in the UK, some friends living out in the country, nearest house about a mile away, had a pregnant cat turn up at their door.
They took it in and it had her kittens in an outhouse, kittens grew and were found homes and they had the cat neutered.
After a few weeks, the cat wandered off.
The friends were later in a post office about 3 miles away and the cat was curled up asleep on the counter.
They asked if it had a tendency to wander and were told it was always roaming.
They didn't say what their cat had been doing and that it had been neutered.
Steve you made my day ! I'm a cat person too .😁
Gives a whole new meaning to the word "Cat-napped"
As a cat “owner” you can’t own a cat. You serve them. I’ve been told I am pussy whipped by my cat !
She’s cute, adorable and very mild mannered. She was a stray and adopted me !
yea, but also... you own your animals.....
We had a cat that disappeared for about six weeks and appeared to have been taken well taken care of when she showed back up. We think someone close by tried to do this exact thing with her. But when she saw the opportunity, she left and came home.
I might be doing that on accident. I feed and rehabilitate strays (with the intention of capturing and rehoming them once they're back to being sociable sweeties), and every once in a while I'll find someone's housecat getting at the food.