When we were in Vietnam we had a mine attached to our ship by a swimmer, it was found and disarmed. While we were anchored, we had whale boats in the water doing patrols around the ship tossing concussion grenades in and they did have a few swimmers float up. USS Newport News (CA-148)
My grandfather flew a SBD Dauntless off a escort carrier in the North Atlantic doing convoy protection. He has multiple mine scores from strafing mines.
I read a book recently called "No Surrender" by R. Edwards who revisits places from his father's WW2 diary and there was an entry where he and other freed Army prisoners are getting ferried off the continent and the troop ship folks see a mine and try to machine gun it, then one of the soldiers asks for a rifle and detonates it.
Really? I wasn't aware of this story. I work for the Maritime administration and used to have possession of the ship. Heard many stories but not this one. Its LPH-10 you are speaking of?
Tripoli had a anti mine warfare helicopter squadron embarked at the time. They were off the coast of Kuwait with several minesweepers in formation. They encountered a floating mine of the type typically photographed., The floating round ball with spines all over the exterior. The explosion opened a 20 foot by 20 foot hole below the waterline. Tripoli reported ready for assigned duties 3 hours later. About 2 hours later Princeton had its encounter. The initial explosion was from a Mantis magnetic influence mine set to break a super tanker in half. Princeton was half the length so it exploded at the stern. The underwater explosion broke the chains on several floating mines. Explosions happened all around the ship.
@@taylorrambin2857 Yes it's pretty readily known they struck a mine. I remember it because I had to brief the incident the day it happened to the 4 star general I was working for.
I'll repeat what I said in a comment to a time when Ryan talked about the paravanes and sharpshooters. In the movie "Away All Boats," the ship is streaming her paravanes and brings a mine up. Then several guys are shooting at it with no luck. One guy, who is supposed to be a crack shot, is goaded about it. He tells everyone to cease fire and then detonates the mine with one shot using an M1 Garand. The movie can be watched on YT at th-cam.com/users/results?search_query=away+all+boats.
One of the most effective use of minefields of which I am aware was that of the Ottoman empire to frustrate the combined effort of the British, French and Imperial Russian navies to force the Dardanelles Strait and force Turkey out of the war. There is a strong current running continuously from the outlet of the Black Sea to the Mediterranean. The Turks put both anchored and drifting mines into that current and let the drifting mines float down onto the British/French Fleet trying to destroy the Turkish forts that guarded the lower end of the Dardanelles Strait. These mines created havoc -- two pre-dreadnought battleships were lost-- HMS OCEAN and MN BOUVET, and the British battlecruisers INFLEXIBLE and INDOMINABLE were both seriously damaged and put out of action. This failure led the British to try the disastrous Gallipoli campaign to attack the Turkish forts from the land side.
This reminds me of the Channel Dash episode from Drachinifels channel where it was mines that really crippled the Scharnhorst twins after they got through the channel
Sweeping mines does not protect the sweeper from the mines. It is sailing inside a minefield, and sweeping mines on either side. This is why it is done by small EXPENDABLE vessels, because they are literally moving through an unswept path. The only way it is safe to do is to be moving through (what you assume is) unmined waters, and working in from the edge, or from a swept channel, to widen the channel.
Did the US navy ever practice using the emergency steering locations such as the rudder room? They say that old cars are easy to maintain because they're more "simple", but the thing is those cars required skill sets that haven't been taught to new drivers in decades such tuning the carb, and if you never listened to a car that utilizes a carb it's difficult to learn such a skill set as a mechanic. It's cool that the Navy was willing to try out mine sweeping with the Battleships.
Sorry but, I find the whole description of a para-vain lacking. How do you protect the bow of the ship from mines by towing a device from the bow of the ship off to each side. I must have missed something.
Thank you for this video!!!! For years I would see those things on the decks of model ships, and I had no idea what they were for, it was driving me mad! :D
I thought that was an accidental coal dust explosion? Hearst newspapers pushed the mine idea as a pretext for war IRC. 1898 fake news? Jury is still out though. Admiral Rickover spent a lot of time analysing the Maine sinking after he retired I read.
Interesting question: it might even be the South Dakota's, at-least their short and stubby nose meant they actually had some buoyancy in it, compared to Iowa's needle nose that had to wait till the rest of the ship 80m further aft decided to ride the wave top. KGV's where at-least designed for North Atlantic weather, although with their requirement to be able to fire over their bow made them pretty wet. HMS Vanguard is off-course the eventual winner of them all.
@@BattleshipNewJersey is it possible to use a different kind of wood that is less expensive? or does teak have that special sauce that gives it the durability to make it worth the money?
We've looked into other options and it came down to being the best option for durability. The navy put down fir in the 80s and that rotted quickly. Harder woods like ipe tear through tools and that scale and are then more expensive. We've done teak for ages for a reason
I don't understand how this is supposed to be effective at all. Even if the paravane works perfectly, wouldn't it just clear mines on the side of your ship? What about mines that are actually in the path of your ship?
2:35 ...i always wondered, what the purpose of this eyelet was...? ...thank you for making me smarter...! ...but wouldn't it be better to operate mine-sweepers together with capital- or any other navy-ships...? ...HMS Audacious,a new state-of-the-art King-George-V-battleship, was sunk by a mine in WW1 (luckyly no casualties)...! ...first ship to help was the Olympic (yes, it's the sister-ship of the Titanic) and the passengers took pictures of the event (when do you have the oportunity to see the wreck of a battleship?) ...the Royal Navy tried to cover it up, but they missed to confiscate every camera, so it trickled through and the british failed to hide the disaster...! Greetings from Germany Happy Christmas...!😀😇🙂
i know this isn't battleship related but ya'll should come out to the great lakes!!!! there is wayy more ww2 naval; history here than appears on the surface....... like we have several submarines of many nations and classes..... on the US.s side we have various Gato and Balao class subs along with a type 9 U-boat and a forever submerged type UC 3 ww1 U-boat sunk off the Illinois Lake Michigan coast sunk by USS Wilmette converted from the Great Lakes worst maritime disaster the S.S. Eastland and the shots fired off said vessel fired by Gunner's Mate J.O. Sabun who had apparently fired the "first" American Cannon in anger during WW1 AAAAAaaaannd on the Canadian side there is HMCS Ojibwa an Oberon class sub super cool to be able to check out Commonwealth vessels too. and for current ship watching the M.V. Lee A. Tregurtha laid down as a T3 Kennebec class oiler for WW2 still serves today as a Great Lakes freighter supplying the raw materials to build and maintain the country and infrastructure we all currently enjoy. aside from the current U.S. navy vessels produced in Wisconsin there are tons of awesome marine history museums and museum ships around the Great Lakes that deserve to be acknowledged there is the only remaining 'Whaleback' freighter and the S.S. Badger the only coal fired steam ship I know of still active and the only "National registered historical landmark" that moves lo. sorry for rambling but there is more naval/marine history in the Midwest than one may think L.S.T.'s too lol look up "the Prairie Shipyard" in Seneca Illinois
We hope to visit the great lakes....eventually? We don't know when but we will ge there. Some of our team, including Ryan was in Wisconsin in 2019 for the Historic Naval Ships Conference so they've talked it up to the rest of us!
I think what you're missing here is this video was made by a bunch of folks from NJ on a roadtrip to MA. So I don't think anyone means there isn't plenty to see in MA but there are certainly lots of other places that we should roadtrip to as well.
It would make more sense to use a smaller boat that have a wooden. Heul because. Most of the. Mines that I know about. Are. Magnetic. A battleship. Is a big waste to use them for. Mine sweeping
There's a problem with the sound a little over 2 minutes in but it kind of waivers and then drops out a bunch I don't know if it's the camera microphone or wearing a mask outside I know the masks really don't help in communication and I can't imagine anybody's within 20 or 30 ft of you right now
If you consider the USS Maine a battleship and believe the Newspapers of the time, then she is the only US battleship I can think of that was sunk by a mine.
Once you went outside and talked with a mask, I stopped watching. No way am I going to turn up the volume on my speakers and STILL struggle to hear what you are saying. Why bother with a mask outside, if there's noone near you?
Theres a lot going on off camera that sometimes requires us to wear a mask. It really depends on whether or not there are other people around and whether we can control if other people are around.
Typically we don't ship internationally. Reach out to education@battleshipnewjersey.org with what you're interested in and we'll see if its doable. It partially comes down to specific items by country so I'll have to defer you to our retail folks.
Any ship can be a minesweeper, just like any ship can be a submarine. In both instances, the limit is generally once per.
Agree. perhaps based on size, armor and reserve buoyancy limit is higher for the battleship.
When we were in Vietnam we had a mine attached to our ship by a swimmer, it was found and disarmed. While we were anchored, we had whale boats in the water doing patrols around the ship tossing concussion grenades in and they did have a few swimmers float up. USS Newport News (CA-148)
I seem to remember that sharp shooters were utilized in WW2 armed with M1903 rifles to detonate floating mines.
My grandfather was a navy sharpshooter who was trained to shoot mines but this was pre WWII.
My grandfather flew a SBD Dauntless off a escort carrier in the North Atlantic doing convoy protection. He has multiple mine scores from strafing mines.
I read a book recently called "No Surrender" by R. Edwards who revisits places from his father's WW2 diary and there was an entry where he and other freed Army prisoners are getting ferried off the continent and the troop ship folks see a mine and try to machine gun it, then one of the soldiers asks for a rifle and detonates it.
Mr. Szimanski, you keep finding very interesting material to share with us! Thanks lots! I think more of Maryland and of New Jersey for your efforts.
The USS Tripoli, which was an amphib, struck a mine during Desert Storm.
Really? I wasn't aware of this story. I work for the Maritime administration and used to have possession of the ship. Heard many stories but not this one. Its LPH-10 you are speaking of?
Tripoli had a anti mine warfare helicopter squadron embarked at the time. They were off the coast of Kuwait with several minesweepers in formation. They encountered a floating mine of the type typically photographed., The floating round ball with spines all over the exterior. The explosion opened a 20 foot by 20 foot hole below the waterline. Tripoli reported ready for assigned duties 3 hours later. About 2 hours later Princeton had its encounter. The initial explosion was from a Mantis magnetic influence mine set to break a super tanker in half. Princeton was half the length so it exploded at the stern. The underwater explosion broke the chains on several floating mines. Explosions happened all around the ship.
Wow interesting facts buddy. Good to know. Tripoli was a strong ship.
I've got a few pics of her final departure from her berth next to ex-uss Nassau. But I'm not sure I can post them in the comments on TH-cam haha.
@@taylorrambin2857 Yes it's pretty readily known they struck a mine. I remember it because I had to brief the incident the day it happened to the 4 star general I was working for.
There is a great picture of the USS Wisconsin in the Persian Gulf with a loose (cut?) moored mine floating in the foreground...
I'll repeat what I said in a comment to a time when Ryan talked about the paravanes and sharpshooters. In the movie "Away All Boats," the ship is streaming her paravanes and brings a mine up. Then several guys are shooting at it with no luck. One guy, who is supposed to be a crack shot, is goaded about it. He tells everyone to cease fire and then detonates the mine with one shot using an M1 Garand. The movie can be watched on YT at th-cam.com/users/results?search_query=away+all+boats.
There is a minesweeper being restored in Stockton California to open as a museum ship soon.
One of the most effective use of minefields of which I am aware was that of the Ottoman empire to frustrate the combined effort of the British, French and Imperial Russian navies to force the Dardanelles Strait and force Turkey out of the war. There is a strong current running continuously from the outlet of the Black Sea to the Mediterranean. The Turks put both anchored and drifting mines into that current and let the drifting mines float down onto the British/French Fleet trying to destroy the Turkish forts that guarded the lower end of the Dardanelles Strait. These mines created havoc -- two pre-dreadnought battleships were lost-- HMS OCEAN and MN BOUVET, and the British battlecruisers INFLEXIBLE and INDOMINABLE were both seriously damaged and put out of action. This failure led the British to try the disastrous Gallipoli campaign to attack the Turkish forts from the land side.
This reminds me of the Channel Dash episode from Drachinifels channel where it was mines that really crippled the Scharnhorst twins after they got through the channel
It reminds me of the Friendly Naval Mine that just want to give you a nice warm hug. Oh Well!
Thank you that explains the eye on the bulb.
Couldn't resist throwing a little shade at the SoDaks at the last second
I think the floating mines are attached to the ground anchor by a cable which unreels until the mine reaches the pre-set depth.
Thank you.
I always wondered what that thing was on my North Carolina in world of warships.
Sweeping mines does not protect the sweeper from the mines. It is sailing inside a minefield, and sweeping mines on either side. This is why it is done by small EXPENDABLE vessels, because they are literally moving through an unswept path. The only way it is safe to do is to be moving through (what you assume is) unmined waters, and working in from the edge, or from a swept channel, to widen the channel.
Did the US navy ever practice using the emergency steering locations such as the rudder room?
They say that old cars are easy to maintain because they're more "simple", but the thing is those cars required skill sets that haven't been taught to new drivers in decades such tuning the carb, and if you never listened to a car that utilizes a carb it's difficult to learn such a skill set as a mechanic.
It's cool that the Navy was willing to try out mine sweeping with the Battleships.
They absolutely practice all of the steering locations.
Were the Iowas ever degausssed to protect against magnetic mines or equipped with FM sonar to spot mines before making contact?
NJ has degaussing equipment on board. Heres our video about it th-cam.com/video/KjFOY1uXDtI/w-d-xo.html
Now I know! Pretty cool to have my question answered by coincidence in 24hrs with a vid lol. It’s so stubby! Lol
Love when that works out!
Sorry but, I find the whole description of a para-vain lacking. How do you protect the bow of the ship from mines by towing a device from the bow of the ship off to each side. I must have missed something.
@@napster7825 You can't; even mine sweepers have that problem. If you are so unlucky as to hit a mine with your bow you have had a really bad day.
The Mine man rate is one rarely seen.
Great Information, Always learning from Your Videos. Thanks!
Yours!
I know USS Minnesota (BB-22) struck a mine she's not a modern battleship but she did strike one.
I believe that USS North Carolina had them on the bow.
Thank you for this video!!!! For years I would see those things on the decks of model ships, and I had no idea what they were for, it was driving me mad! :D
How about the Maine?
I thought that was an accidental coal dust explosion? Hearst newspapers pushed the mine idea as a pretext for war IRC. 1898 fake news? Jury is still out though. Admiral Rickover spent a lot of time analysing the Maine sinking after he retired I read.
Beat me to it on both counts.
We'll never know what actually happened I think. My money is mine though.
Did so far really nobody notice the „finding Nemo“-reference in the thumbnail?
I'm really glad someone noticed, it seemed like an obvious joke to me but uh apparently not to this crowd. But I guess I gotta just keep swimming
@@BattleshipNewJersey I think I can hear you singing „Just keep swimming“ 😜
I appreciate the reference
I thought it was fairly obvious but it wouldn't be if you hasn't seen the movie.
So the Paravane is just the battleships' Manscape V3 razor?
USS Massachusetts. AKA, USS Stubby McStubface.
Ryan: i visited Massachusetts and came home filthy, thank you for your fine work and dirty trousers
This is what really covered Ryan in dirt:
th-cam.com/video/z_OLXHxebRE/w-d-xo.html
Speaking of short and stubby, who had better sea keeping? If I'm not mistaken the Iowa's were rather wet ships.
Interesting question: it might even be the South Dakota's, at-least their short and stubby nose meant they actually had some buoyancy in it, compared to Iowa's needle nose that had to wait till the rest of the ship 80m further aft decided to ride the wave top. KGV's where at-least designed for North Atlantic weather, although with their requirement to be able to fire over their bow made them pretty wet. HMS Vanguard is off-course the eventual winner of them all.
Wow that was a big difference when you switched to the lav versus on camera
The what?
You look cold. Thanks for more awesome content.
It was so cold. Ryans clutching hand warmers that he stole from me, the camera person! I'll never forget the cruelty.
@@BattleshipNewJersey I thought that was his lunch money. How long does he spend in the makeup dept? He is getting star struck lol
I tried to get him to comb his hair once. The whining was unbelievable. That may or may not be a joke. - Libby the editor
@@BattleshipNewJersey Libby, need a good coat or just gloves?
We needed to go back down south! We showed up with so much winter gear and still froze!
What kind of broom is best suited to minesweeping?
SWEEPERS SWEEPERS MAN YOUR BROOMS MAKE A CLEAN SWEEP DOWN FORE AND AFT. LOOK FOR MINES
A magnetic broom
@@LTPottenger instructions unclear: broom caused entire minefield to explode
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a really, really long one.
How expensive would it be do a complete replacement of a Iowa class teak deck?
We're in the process right now, its about $8mil doing it our way
@@BattleshipNewJersey Is it tax deductible?
Donations to the museum are tax deductible
@@BattleshipNewJersey is it possible to use a different kind of wood that is less expensive? or does teak have that special sauce that gives it the durability to make it worth the money?
We've looked into other options and it came down to being the best option for durability. The navy put down fir in the 80s and that rotted quickly. Harder woods like ipe tear through tools and that scale and are then more expensive. We've done teak for ages for a reason
Thank goodness you waited until you were outside of the ship to put your mask on.
I don't understand how this is supposed to be effective at all. Even if the paravane works perfectly, wouldn't it just clear mines on the side of your ship? What about mines that are actually in the path of your ship?
That is why it's a terrible idea to use such a massive investment as a BB. It does not stop you from actually running into a mine in front.
2:35 ...i always wondered, what the purpose of this eyelet was...?
...thank you for making me smarter...!
...but wouldn't it be better to operate mine-sweepers together with capital- or any other navy-ships...?
...HMS Audacious,a new state-of-the-art King-George-V-battleship, was sunk by a mine in WW1 (luckyly no casualties)...!
...first ship to help was the Olympic (yes, it's the sister-ship of the Titanic) and the passengers took pictures of the event (when do you have the oportunity to see the wreck of a battleship?)
...the Royal Navy tried to cover it up, but they missed to confiscate every camera, so it trickled through and the british failed to hide the disaster...!
Greetings from Germany
Happy Christmas...!😀😇🙂
"I'm not familiar with any American battleship that was ever sunk by a mine." USS Maine **side eyes**
Pretty sure they prove that was an internal detonation in magazines...
@@Shinzon23 yep. But that wasn't the claim (justification) that brought about war.
Since today's the anniversary of the indianoplis being sunk how about a little something about that
Check this out for that video: th-cam.com/video/j3I-TQeJS9U/w-d-xo.html
i know this isn't battleship related but ya'll should come out to the great lakes!!!! there is wayy more ww2 naval; history here than appears on the surface....... like we have several submarines of many nations and classes..... on the US.s side we have various Gato and Balao class subs along with a type 9 U-boat and a forever submerged type UC 3 ww1 U-boat sunk off the Illinois Lake Michigan coast sunk by USS Wilmette converted from the Great Lakes worst maritime disaster the S.S. Eastland and the shots fired off said vessel fired by Gunner's Mate J.O. Sabun who had apparently fired the "first" American Cannon in anger during WW1 AAAAAaaaannd on the Canadian side there is HMCS Ojibwa an Oberon class sub super cool to be able to check out Commonwealth vessels too. and for current ship watching the M.V. Lee A. Tregurtha laid down as a T3 Kennebec class oiler for WW2 still serves today as a Great Lakes freighter supplying the raw materials to build and maintain the country and infrastructure we all currently enjoy. aside from the current U.S. navy vessels produced in Wisconsin there are tons of awesome marine history museums and museum ships around the Great Lakes that deserve to be acknowledged there is the only remaining 'Whaleback' freighter and the S.S. Badger the only coal fired steam ship I know of still active and the only "National registered historical landmark" that moves lo. sorry for rambling but there is more naval/marine history in the Midwest than one may think L.S.T.'s too lol look up "the Prairie Shipyard" in Seneca Illinois
sorry for the rambling.......I know Erie and Ontario aren't tooo far from ya'll
We hope to visit the great lakes....eventually? We don't know when but we will ge there. Some of our team, including Ryan was in Wisconsin in 2019 for the Historic Naval Ships Conference so they've talked it up to the rest of us!
@@BattleshipNewJersey then Ryan has seen our beloved USS Cobia!
I think what you're missing here is this video was made by a bunch of folks from NJ on a roadtrip to MA. So I don't think anyone means there isn't plenty to see in MA but there are certainly lots of other places that we should roadtrip to as well.
they simply didnt go into harms way, well how would they know, does not make sense
Oh no the one thing that all people say that can sink an iowa class battleships, but lucky never has
@David Lazarus it's more likely a CV guy will say mine first over the those
It would make more sense to use a smaller boat that have a wooden. Heul because. Most of the. Mines that I know about. Are. Magnetic. A battleship. Is a big waste to use them for. Mine sweeping
Wow your sound went from normal to great. Don't know what you did but sounds a lot better.
Battle of mobile bay 1864
outside, surrounded by no one, wearing a mask ... why ? WHY? WHHHHYYYY???? I quit at 1:56
I. Can. Understand. Using. Divers if ship gets. Caught in mine field. In the water 🌊💦💦
There's a problem with the sound a little over 2 minutes in but it kind of waivers and then drops out a bunch I don't know if it's the camera microphone or wearing a mask outside I know the masks really don't help in communication and I can't imagine anybody's within 20 or 30 ft of you right now
Remember the Maine?
If you consider the USS Maine a battleship and believe the Newspapers of the time, then she is the only US battleship I can think of that was sunk by a mine.
Or coal bunker fire.
Yeah ... uncertainty about Maine explosion; PERHAPS internal explosion.
A mask... Outside... Really?
We strongly believe in following all local health guidelines.
Once you went outside and talked with a mask, I stopped watching. No way am I going to turn up the volume on my speakers and STILL struggle to hear what you are saying. Why bother with a mask outside, if there's noone near you?
Theres a lot going on off camera that sometimes requires us to wear a mask. It really depends on whether or not there are other people around and whether we can control if other people are around.
cameramen are valuable too.
It's the governor's idiocy you should be pissed at .
Why the mask on a battleship??.
Sigh
Libby, does BB NJ ship merchandise to the UK?
Typically we don't ship internationally. Reach out to education@battleshipnewjersey.org with what you're interested in and we'll see if its doable. It partially comes down to specific items by country so I'll have to defer you to our retail folks.
@@BattleshipNewJersey Thanks!