Chris, thanks again for your help! I really enjoyed talking with you to get a better understanding of your design process. Looking forward to building version 2.0 in the near future.
@@arnoldc1724 Thanks! The case and legs are made from cherry and the drawer fronts are maple. I finished everything using maker brand co simple finish.
This is a really cool design! I'm at a similar point with a build of mine and this really helped me break down what needed some changes. Props to you for being willing to put your work out there and take constructive criticism.
“What I like to do is keep eliminating or changing those things that feel wrong until what I’m left with feels right” This is SOLID life advice in general 👌🏼
this series needs to become a channel mainstay. great production values, great execution on a concept, great opportunity to see the design process in execution (with its flaws!). home run, chris.
YES. Please continue this type of video. I often find myself thinking "that ain't right" part way through, or even multiple times, part way through a project. I also have often plowed ahead even though it ain't right. Understanding your design process is maybe the most important part of your project videos. Thanks.
As soon as I saw the initial redesign, I was saying, "float it!" out loud because I knew that would make the top feel less weighty. Glad Chris heard me. Somehow, after watching him design and create for so long, I kind of knew he would lol
This was great! I think that was a nice well-balanced critique and re-design. And I have to say that there’s a lot of seasoned woodworkers out there that would be quite happy with Joe’s original design so great job Joe! For only a year in you’re off to a great start!
I really like this format a lot! I have been designing and building furniture as a hobby for 30 years and now get to play all the time in retirement. My close friends know I like it when we review a piece and they come up with alternative design ideas and, as you noted, honor the original plan. You should never close your mind to alternative design features. Keep it up.
This is something I was looking for. More on the thought process on the designing of a piece. Which a lot of people don't talk about. Great series. Might have to submit something soon.
Nice Chris. Love that you pick up this kind of content again. Like the early days... you really have a good eye for proportions. That's one of the biggest things I stuggle with as a beginner woodworker... Love it!
Chris, this is awesome! Personally, I feel like design is the most difficult part of furniture making. You're an excellent designer and it's great to hear more insight about your approach. Keep making more of these!
Chris, this is a great idea for a series. I absolutely love the way you design/sketch designs. Are you using Illustrator or is this in SketchUp? I just absolutely love the aesthetic of the industrial design sketch look. It is something that I want to get better at. Are there any courses/resources that you'd recommend to try and learn some skills to achieve the level of finish that you get on your design sketches? I hope this series continues. I think that you'll get a ton of "entries"👍
You, sir, are an incredible designer. Your eye for balance and form is elegant. Floating the top draw main part from the top cross piece right under it added a uniquely stylish uber modern mid-century look. Bravo!
Chris this format is super. You need to continue this process because we have so many build videos with people building stuff without any real design thought going into them. your insight and Shaun’s will be quite helpful for amateurs and professionals alike. I shot a video on this design feature with Shaun several years ago.
Love this format!! Thought I had seen most videos on your channel but must have missed this one. I think I've graduated from concentrating on build method to concentrating more on design. Looking forward to more of these. Thanks, Chris!
Man I love these videos. My favorite aspect of Chris' woodworking is his design. I hope you keep this series even if it's little shorter then most of your vids
Honesty time... I follow probably over 100 woodworking/craftsman/furniture/design based channels on youtube alone. This content right here, this is what I've been looking for. Its fun watching different people make (and lets be brutal here) endless black walnut furniture pieces, almost so many that I'm amazed there is any walnut left on the planet at this point! But as fun and as interesting and inspiring as that can be, one of the things all these channels lack is a really proper look into the design and ideation process. This content is exactly what I, and I imagine others, have been looking for and its great that it comes from a channel I enjoy also. So please keep these up and if you can maybe add some more ideation process into your other videos too so we can see more of how you go from imagination to reality.
I think that this format was an excellent idea. I think that many of us struggle to find the "it" factor sometimes, and you have a great eye to be able to give just the right suggestion!
I love these videos. I think objectively speaking, you and Shaun have the best designs on woodworking TH-cam. I know that this video might not appeal to the fans that like the crayon table or the Nintendo Switch build but I think your core fans appreciate this kind of content because it’s the whole process
Great video! First time I’ve seen a video like this that gives such thoughtful insights into the design process. Also well done to Joe for something that looks well made in his first year of woodworking.
Love this! One of the things that I really learned since the first day I watched your videos is proportions. Yes, we all can make angles, bevel cuts or anything that adds flare to a project, but without proper proportions, it turns out visually awkward. Less is more can only be great if the few details of a project meshes with each other. Looking forward to more of this Chris! :)
This is a great format and super helpful for my own design thought process. Thanks. Also - some of the most recognizable Disney characters were created by designers with Aphantasia. Super interesting.
I love this series! I struggle with designing what I want so seeing your input on already thought out pieces is really helpful for creative momentum. Please keep it up!
The one-minute version of this video that you just posted today (12/03) led me to finally watch this video. Great content, I really wish the views (#s) support your idea of making more such content where you help evolve and improve others' ideas! Walking through the process of design with you narrating/critiquing along with beautiful drawings is great for learning and a pleasure to watch!
As soon as I saw it I said to myself it needs a bottom shelf to help balance the design, then in my mind I pictured nearly exactly what your final drawing looked like, I think I've been watching too much of your channels.😊
I love your way out design-which doesn't seem SO way out. I would say you made it more sophisticated! With that said-wonder how you would mount the base to the box? Figure 8 fastners? Or would you drill right into the base itself?
I totally agree with @Andy Iliff's idea for a series. I come up with ideas that may look great to me and essentially is a modern/contemporary piece and visually aesthetic to me, however running another set of eyes over it always creates room for improvement right ?. Its by no means there to diss the original idea, but making it better - I dig this
Lolol I thought the big reveal was going to be "and I already built it - I'm at your front door with the table now". I enjoyed this format though, it's very insightful to your design process. Would love to see a Shaun one too!
Very Cool Chris!!! Something different from the norm but, a lot of info. & cool to see your thought process in some redesigning. Hoping all is well guys, Dirty Jersey out!!
I wish there was a bit more explanation about the final change. It was just shown very quickly and so I couldn't really follow the flow of the wood and how it was put together. I always come away wanting to make the pieces shown here (and with enough information that I feel like I could) but this one just went through everything way to quick. I know it's a different style of video, I just feel like I was left with a lot to know
Chris: I really like this series format. I would love for you to critique one of my pieces. I feel like I design pieces so I can build them rather than you building so you can design - or something like that.
I think your ability to present topics intelligently is outstanding. I think if you were to incorporate the concepts of proportionality, (like odd vs even whole numbers or the Golden Rule as example) in addition to what designs feel like and their comic association to relatable images would be beneficial. This hall table as example, the legs were viewed from the end perspective but ignored in critique. The leg design critique included a tapered front elevation change that looked good, but the graphics lacked a simple proportional ratio understanding as to why. The legs went straight down to the floor in the side elevation view, but the graphics could have shown the legs splayed out from the top frame to floor in an odd number ratio as example, just to see what that change looked like. For imagery, kind of like spindled giraffe legs with the feet touching the floor just slightly contained within a plan view footprint. This would have added stability, but proportionally, would it have looked good? With straight legs in the side elevation view, I thought the piece looked like it could easily be shaken just by opening the drawers, or if they contained any weight or if a child reached up and grabbed at it, it could fall over forward away from the wall.
does the third version add stability in the same way that standard supports would? i assume it would since it is tied to the legs and then to the bottom, but im not a furniture scientist. It is something that i had never really thought of if that is the case.
I never could put my finger on why I don't like the splayed, modern spider-type leg design in general, but the "high waisted" description is a perfect explanation for me. I do appreciate Chris's attention to detail and I think he's a great guy with good design ideas but man those type of legs just don't do it for me.
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Chris, thanks again for your help! I really enjoyed talking with you to get a better understanding of your design process. Looking forward to building version 2.0 in the near future.
Very nice work there Joe!
Beautiful design. What wood did you use?
@@arnoldc1724 Thanks! The case and legs are made from cherry and the drawer fronts are maple. I finished everything using maker brand co simple finish.
@@nigelmtb Thank you!
This is a really cool design! I'm at a similar point with a build of mine and this really helped me break down what needed some changes. Props to you for being willing to put your work out there and take constructive criticism.
“What I like to do is keep eliminating or changing those things that feel wrong until what I’m left with feels right”
This is SOLID life advice in general 👌🏼
this series needs to become a channel mainstay. great production values, great execution on a concept, great opportunity to see the design process in execution (with its flaws!). home run, chris.
YES. Please continue this type of video. I often find myself thinking "that ain't right" part way through, or even multiple times, part way through a project. I also have often plowed ahead even though it ain't right. Understanding your design process is maybe the most important part of your project videos. Thanks.
As soon as I saw the initial redesign, I was saying, "float it!" out loud because I knew that would make the top feel less weighty.
Glad Chris heard me. Somehow, after watching him design and create for so long, I kind of knew he would lol
This was great! I think that was a nice well-balanced critique and re-design. And I have to say that there’s a lot of seasoned woodworkers out there that would be quite happy with Joe’s original design so great job Joe! For only a year in you’re off to a great start!
Thanks for the encouragement!
@@devone3024 no problem! I think you’re off to a fantastic start in woodworking. Way to dive right in!
I really like this format a lot! I have been designing and building furniture as a hobby for 30 years and now get to play all the time in retirement. My close friends know I like it when we review a piece and they come up with alternative design ideas and, as you noted, honor the original plan. You should never close your mind to alternative design features. Keep it up.
This is something I was looking for. More on the thought process on the designing of a piece. Which a lot of people don't talk about. Great series. Might have to submit something soon.
Nice Chris. Love that you pick up this kind of content again. Like the early days... you really have a good eye for proportions. That's one of the biggest things I stuggle with as a beginner woodworker...
Love it!
Chris, this is awesome! Personally, I feel like design is the most difficult part of furniture making. You're an excellent designer and it's great to hear more insight about your approach. Keep making more of these!
Chris, this is a great idea for a series. I absolutely love the way you design/sketch designs. Are you using Illustrator or is this in SketchUp? I just absolutely love the aesthetic of the industrial design sketch look. It is something that I want to get better at. Are there any courses/resources that you'd recommend to try and learn some skills to achieve the level of finish that you get on your design sketches? I hope this series continues. I think that you'll get a ton of "entries"👍
I would love to know aswell!
I seem to remember him saying a while back that he uses Procreate for the sketched designs.
You, sir, are an incredible designer. Your eye for balance and form is elegant. Floating the top draw main part from the top cross piece right under it added a uniquely stylish uber modern mid-century look. Bravo!
Chris this format is super. You need to continue this process because we have so many build videos with people building stuff without any real design thought going into them. your insight and Shaun’s will be quite helpful for amateurs and professionals alike. I shot a video on this design feature with Shaun several years ago.
Love this format!! Thought I had seen most videos on your channel but must have missed this one. I think I've graduated from concentrating on build method to concentrating more on design. Looking forward to more of these. Thanks, Chris!
Man I love these videos. My favorite aspect of Chris' woodworking is his design. I hope you keep this series even if it's little shorter then most of your vids
Honesty time... I follow probably over 100 woodworking/craftsman/furniture/design based channels on youtube alone. This content right here, this is what I've been looking for. Its fun watching different people make (and lets be brutal here) endless black walnut furniture pieces, almost so many that I'm amazed there is any walnut left on the planet at this point! But as fun and as interesting and inspiring as that can be, one of the things all these channels lack is a really proper look into the design and ideation process. This content is exactly what I, and I imagine others, have been looking for and its great that it comes from a channel I enjoy also. So please keep these up and if you can maybe add some more ideation process into your other videos too so we can see more of how you go from imagination to reality.
I think that this format was an excellent idea. I think that many of us struggle to find the "it" factor sometimes, and you have a great eye to be able to give just the right suggestion!
Excellent! I'd love to see/hear more details about why the other design is better and perhaps see intermediate designs and why they were rejected
Well done Chris. This is a very well made video critiquing but solving a design issue. Excellent.
never seen anything like this. Fantastic and a respectful way to teach design.
This is a great idea for a series! I always struggle with designing new furniture and this is really helpful!
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I love these videos. I think objectively speaking, you and Shaun have the best designs on woodworking TH-cam. I know that this video might not appeal to the fans that like the crayon table or the Nintendo Switch build but I think your core fans appreciate this kind of content because it’s the whole process
I really like this concept for a video. The design process has been the hardest part of woodworking for me.
Great video! First time I’ve seen a video like this that gives such thoughtful insights into the design process. Also well done to Joe for something that looks well made in his first year of woodworking.
Thanks Mark!
@@devone3024 Great work, Joe!
Love this! One of the things that I really learned since the first day I watched your videos is proportions. Yes, we all can make angles, bevel cuts or anything that adds flare to a project, but without proper proportions, it turns out visually awkward. Less is more can only be great if the few details of a project meshes with each other. Looking forward to more of this Chris! :)
This format is great, really breaks down the thought process which is great for learning. I'd be keen to see more of the same style :)
me, I'd consider redesigning the legs and keeping the top, such as a U on it's side with zig-zag /snake "foot" to the bottom to provide stability
I’d love to see a video on how you go about designing and creating the aesthetic on the iPad.
Great series. It helped me think about the design process and HOPEFULLY make better decisions in the future.
This is a great format and super helpful for my own design thought process. Thanks.
Also - some of the most recognizable Disney characters were created by designers with Aphantasia. Super interesting.
I love this series! I struggle with designing what I want so seeing your input on already thought out pieces is really helpful for creative momentum. Please keep it up!
Oooh, this is a really fun idea for a series!! I'd love to see more like this.
I like this type of content a lot. Really gives you some different ways to think about things when you're stuck in a design rut. Keep up the good work
I really like this format. Design is something I struggle with the most. Appreciate the video 👍🏻
I love this dude. Your perspective of furniture is truly amazing.
I like this style of video. Design is your strong suit so leaning into it makes sense.
SOoooooooo glad you're doing this again.
The one-minute version of this video that you just posted today (12/03) led me to finally watch this video. Great content, I really wish the views (#s) support your idea of making more such content where you help evolve and improve others' ideas! Walking through the process of design with you narrating/critiquing along with beautiful drawings is great for learning and a pleasure to watch!
This looks a lot like industrial design. Was great seeing your thought process on it and would like to see more like this
As soon as I saw it I said to myself it needs a bottom shelf to help balance the design, then in my mind I pictured nearly exactly what your final drawing looked like, I think I've been watching too much of your channels.😊
I love your way out design-which doesn't seem SO way out. I would say you made it more sophisticated! With that said-wonder how you would mount the base to the box? Figure 8 fastners? Or would you drill right into the base itself?
Great video format Chris!! I learned a lot following your thought process. Thanks!!
Awesome video - love your insight on all the details of this piece.
I relay liked this format. Nice to get a view into the thought process.
Good work Joe and Chris. Keep up the good work and keep creating & inspiring.
I'm already a fan of your other videos but this one was completely new... Great content/format... very unique. I want more!
I totally agree with @Andy Iliff's idea for a series. I come up with ideas that may look great to me and essentially is a modern/contemporary piece and visually aesthetic to me, however running another set of eyes over it always creates room for improvement right ?. Its by no means there to diss the original idea, but making it better - I dig this
Lolol I thought the big reveal was going to be "and I already built it - I'm at your front door with the table now". I enjoyed this format though, it's very insightful to your design process. Would love to see a Shaun one too!
Love this kind of video! Hope there’s more of these.
Very Cool Chris!!! Something different from the norm but, a lot of info. & cool to see your thought process in some redesigning. Hoping all is well guys, Dirty Jersey out!!
This is an awesome series idea. Excited for more critiques and design tips in the future!
I really want to do this. I own a business right now that cant keep me busy in the winter.
Wow, dude! You came up with a really difficult concept and you pulled it off. Nicely done.
Yes!!! Loved this video. Super helpful. We need more of this!! I would have you edit my designs…. But all my stuff is basically just rectangles… haha
Great video and love to see you discussing design.
Definitely continue this series. Super interesting.
I love this idea for a series!
Cool new direction with content. First time I’ve seen anyone do this!
More of these please. This is excellent.
What a great video! Is there any way to get ahold of the proportions (or measurments) that you chose?
I love it. I think you need my bad design on there. I have many.
Love design thinking. More please.
This is a great new segment. I would seriously like to see more like this.
Love this format. Would love to see more of it.
What software do you use to sketch your designs?
Really like this new side of your channel. Looking forward to more design evals 👍
This content is incredibly helpful and surprisingly entertaining.
I wish there was a bit more explanation about the final change. It was just shown very quickly and so I couldn't really follow the flow of the wood and how it was put together. I always come away wanting to make the pieces shown here (and with enough information that I feel like I could) but this one just went through everything way to quick. I know it's a different style of video, I just feel like I was left with a lot to know
This concept is real cool !
Chris: I really like this series format. I would love for you to critique one of my pieces. I feel like I design pieces so I can build them rather than you building so you can design - or something like that.
This whole idea is great
I think your ability to present topics intelligently is outstanding. I think if you were to incorporate the concepts of proportionality, (like odd vs even whole numbers or the Golden Rule as example) in addition to what designs feel like and their comic association to relatable images would be beneficial. This hall table as example, the legs were viewed from the end perspective but ignored in critique. The leg design critique included a tapered front elevation change that looked good, but the graphics lacked a simple proportional ratio understanding as to why. The legs went straight down to the floor in the side elevation view, but the graphics could have shown the legs splayed out from the top frame to floor in an odd number ratio as example, just to see what that change looked like. For imagery, kind of like spindled giraffe legs with the feet touching the floor just slightly contained within a plan view footprint. This would have added stability, but proportionally, would it have looked good? With straight legs in the side elevation view, I thought the piece looked like it could easily be shaken just by opening the drawers, or if they contained any weight or if a child reached up and grabbed at it, it could fall over forward away from the wall.
Really nice design changes.
Great idea. Really enjoyed the video.
More of this please!
Great video format, thanks!
This is my favorite video of yours! If you do any more of these i have a few pieces I would love feedback on. Will trade shoes for advice.
Amazing series idea. Looking forward to the next ones! ❤️
Chris, I dig this add-on to the channel! I'll likely submit a piece to you at some point, and I'll make sure it's sufficiently meaty haha
This is an incredible idea for a series. Way to reach out the us young guns about design. Often the hardest part of woodworking I'm finding out, haha
8:08 what software that can do this “break down”, I really want to know. Thanks. 🙏
does the third version add stability in the same way that standard supports would? i assume it would since it is tied to the legs and then to the bottom, but im not a furniture scientist. It is something that i had never really thought of if that is the case.
Hey Chris is there anyway you can look at my design for a desk? Get a couple of pointers on how I can make it better
Cool video idea. Looking forward to more.
Great video, should turn it into a reoccurring series!
Really like this, interesting to see how you refined the design
Love this series!
Awesome breakdown of your creative process. What software do you use to sketch digitally?
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Floating box is cool!!
I like this. It really helps us noobs out.
Great concept for content! And great approach to design!
Great content! Would love to see more.
where did you learn how to draw and do renders? id like to be able to do the same :) thank you
What program are you using for these sketches?
Nice tweaks Chris. The original if made longer, would look more in place behind a sofa.
Chris enjoyed the work here. Random one love the shirts would you mind sharing the brand and where I could pick some up. Thanks Mark
Dude! This is an amazing video! I think you found good right here.
love this kind of content, looking forward to the next one!
Whats the software you use for designing?
I never could put my finger on why I don't like the splayed, modern spider-type leg design in general, but the "high waisted" description is a perfect explanation for me. I do appreciate Chris's attention to detail and I think he's a great guy with good design ideas but man those type of legs just don't do it for me.