Great insight from CJ on this weekends game and what its like to be in the Irish system. South Africa born and bred but Munster and Irish legend as well.
What a great way to spend 53 minutes of your life. That was so interesting guys, I'll be honest there was times when I had to strain to try and understand what you were saying. But for someone who loves Rugby this was absolute bliss. As if it needs to be said CJ is a treasure in Ireland, his attitude, personality, work ethic and humility is something that we all love. I could listen to you guys all day.
I am a bit slow to catch up on this (been watching the UK elections) but I agree that Shimmy is masterful in directing the conversation and Schalk is always very insightful and articulate.
CJ is fantastic guy, loved in Ireland, he can’t lose with the series, he’s always a bok deep down but Ireland is big part of his story too. We miss you at Munster :-)
Love you guys …what a blast . Shimmy it is clear that the Bishops DNA helped you to overcome your Rondebosch experience . 😂😂. All you now need is to get Tim ( Egg catchers ) and Big John to join your show. Look forward to next week .
Shimmy has incredible charisma and you can tell all the guests have a great time on the show. Bloody good tight head in his day and a role model Bok and UCT coach. Schalla is a wealth of rugby knowledge, a living Bok legend and good value for banter.Same goes with JdV- one of the great captains the Boks have had in recent years. This show is truly an organic success- from RWC 2023 and beyond.
Really looking forward to this series, and great to see how excited the home fans are. A few Saffers on this thread are beyond confident though - it's never too bright to underestimate Ireland. Can't wait for Saturday!
as an irish fan i always felt CJ was all in with us and that there confirms it. in SA surrounded by Saffas and still flying the flag. irish rugby legend.
Man remember that game against the french in the beginning of the 6 nations. Maybe you guys see something different but the Irish are going to be brutal. I'm calling a 3 point margin.
Irish fan here. We would love another performance like that France game. It's hard to see it happening but I never underestimate Farrells' ability to get a performance out of players. Despite what the media and keyboard warriors say not many irish are expecting a win. I just wish leinster had taken stronger teams to play the lions earlier in the year.
Shimmy, you sure offer a typical South African show, banter runs high, Schalk must be great at a tailgate braai, nice to hear CJ, seems like a nice guy, keep the Boks Ofice going.
As an irish fan i think that ireland have a 23 to beat any team, however when it comes to world cups our lack of depth in key positions like loosehead, scrumhalf, full back, etc means that we dont have the quality back ups play that many games in such a short period of time. Every world cup winning team (aside from 1999) the team with the best squad and not just the best team has won?
It's funny because the 'final that should have been' was mostly talked about from pundits from other countries like England, Scotland, Wales and France. Of course Ireland fancied their chances at the RWC but it's over and the boks proved themselves as the best team.
As an irish fan let me tell you that nobody listens to the media here. There has always been a respect for the boks and will always be. They are the giants of rugby and what we aspire to be. People not from Ireland forget that we were terrible at rugby up until the 2000s and it took 9 more years for us to win a 6 nations. There probably was too much celebration after that big win against the boks (I forget) but it's long gone and we won't be winning like that again anytime soon.
Don't believe everything in the media. We have the greatest respect for what are the World Champions x 2 and the number 1 team in the world. We both are tough no nonsense teams that are proud of their teams and country. We also have had many SA players and coaches in Ireland so we are close rugby brothers. ☘️☘️
The AB has done it a few times and hit 50+ on occasions. Ireland defeated the AB at home twice. The AB then lost to the Puma and then the Bokkie in South Africa. Three loses in a row. The following weekend the AB beat the Bokkie. Ireland approach to a game is similar to that of the AB. You must win wherever you play and whoever you play. The AB legacy is built upon this approach. You must impose your will upon your opponent.
south africans are sensitive af. See you in the final was a compliment like you guys are amazing you'll be in the final and hope to see you there... jesus xD
Why on earth is that a compliment? Because you've never been past the quarters, so how did the Irish players think they'd get passed ABs. We are sensitive because we lose to the ABs when we shouldn't. It's called respect. Ever since Ireland got to number 1, you guys thought you shit ice cream 😅😅😅😅. I respect Ireland, probably respect Wales more. They don't change because they've moved up the rankings and they are a real rugby nation. You guys take yourselves way to seriously all of a sudden. Reminds us of the English. Fans not so much but your pundits are so snobby all of a sudden lol. I love me Irish people by the way. But it doesn't suit you guys to be dicks. It suits us perfectly because that's who we are and as you can see by these legends talking here, we love a good laugh, especially at ourselves to be honest. Will be a good game no matter what happens. I'm shitting bricks to be honest. Loftus and Durban go very quiet if the Boks are not playing well and some of our biggest defeats have been in these stadiums.
Also, Afrikaans guys are not about mincing and twisting their words, if Eben says that's what they said, that's exactly what they said. Why would he lie about it? Not one Irish player has called his bluff.
South Africa has a global team, S.A players are also fatigued. Injuries, Kitshoff, Kleyn, de jager, vermeulen retired, mapimpi and willemse out. It doesn't make sense to bring that up when S.A have that to deal with
hope I'm wrong but Ireland are on a downward curve and seemed tired at the end of the season. Throw in a good few first choicers missing, I think it has to be South Africa
The Irish players have been pretty awful lately, they could have done with the summer off; like the French - but they made themselves available... if this was in Cape Town, I think it would have been close, but I think the Boks will win by at least 10. Good luck guys, enjoy the game!
Let's not underestimate Ireland. That being said, I think they're in trouble. Boks seem up for this one and Ireland (80% Leinster) just don't. "See you in the final?". Nah, we'll see you at Loftus instead 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
Ireland is not 80% Leinster.. POM, Crowley , Casey , aki , Murray . Nash. Beirne. Finay McCloskey ; Henderson, Hansen, jager, plus more are all players who start for ireland or are taken off the bench during the 80 mins. It’s a different set of management completely . That and there is only 4 provinces to play for in ireland. So the numbers will always be skewed. But I do think we are running a bit of on empty now. But Leinster is not ireland.. and eben still won’t name a player.. it’s now no less then 6 or 7 but no more then 20 😂 he can’t remember because it never happened 😂 loftus is an irish surname by the way 😂
Ireland is not 80% Leinster.. POM, Crowley , Casey , aki , Murray . Nash. Beirne. Finay McCloskey ; Henderson, Hansen, jager, plus more are all players who start for ireland or are taken off the bench during the 80 mins. It’s a different set of management completely . That and there is only 4 provinces to play for in ireland. So the numbers will always be skewed. But I do think we are running a bit of on empty now. But Leinster is not ireland
Noyone said he had to have one. And btw the 'real' Irish accent is as rare as Irish people who speak Gaelic. The accent there is mostly Anglo-Saxon, go listen to a North-German Saxon speaker vs an Irishman from Munster and you'll here no difference... Tadhg Furlong I reckon has the real Irish accent, which is Gaelic derived, not what most hear, which is Saxon derived.
@@JohnTerblanche-l1r that’s not true at all. What a load of BS 😂😂 Ireland is unique in its accents. There are so many. Go to Belfast, the cork and then Dublin. All totally different. Nothing like ‘Anglo Saxon’ except maybe in parts of Dublin.
Ireland keep telling us guys like Gibson-Park, Aki. Lowe, Hansen are Irish. Why does all these chameleons who play for them run back to their country of birth when they retire? Thought they were Irish?
Hanson isn’t playing but is Irish his mother is from cork once you have one Irish parent you’re Irish citizen. Gibson Park, Aki and Lowe they qualified on residency. As I recall CJ returned to South Africa mostly because of his wife she missed her family and sacrificed a lot for him to have his career. So he owed her. I doubt Aki low or Gibson Park will return to New Zealand there already so settled in Ireland and Even when they retire they will be well looked after with adverts, commentary, coaching positions .
The Irish never abuse officials hey? Johnny Sexton wasn't banned just before this last World Cup? Ref Grainne Crabtree receiving sexist verbal abuse? Wayne Barnes after he officiated the All Blacks Ireland World Cup?
These games are such fine margins and the Boks have the advantage on those margins for this series with JGP and Keenan out. Will take something else for us to get a draw in this series. Should still be epic matches!
It's so refreshing to hear actual rugby players talk about the game, rather than the endless bickering from media on both sides
As a munster fan i cant thank CJ enough for all of his years of service. What a warrior
as a springbok keep this idiot, he is not my kind.
Cj stander he was so liked here in Ireland and still missed .... gave his all for our country
CJ is not South African, we claim him. What a gent.
he destroyed lambie's career..
Boks Office is by far the best rugga show on earth.
The KOKO show is out in front.
Leinster fan here, great show lads, we have a soft spot over here for CJ, magic for Ireland and Munster.
Keep your pants on please
big fan of these guys Schalk burger what a legend all black fan here so much respect for them
All blacks and boks number 1. 💪 💪
Shimmy this is the best Rugby show in the universe! WoW..following since WC! You keep on Winning! You are the best example of Pivot!
Lovely to hear CJ has gone into coaching. Top man.
Brilliant show. Agree with the boys, two passionate nations supporting their teams. Bok supporter here and I do have massive respect for the Irish.
Hahahaha. I love Schalk just filling up the beers and having a few ones live. Adds to the real time ambience of the show.
CJ is a Lekker guy.. get him on again!
Irish legend!
@@SMacCuUladh springbok nobody, says much about him. No respect
Great insight from CJ on this weekends game and what its like to be in the Irish system. South Africa born and bred but Munster and Irish legend as well.
CJ Stander is a Munster Legend. A solid man and a great player .
Everytime I look at CJ I think of Pat lambie. Such a promising young talent.
Aww that's cute
What a great way to spend 53 minutes of your life. That was so interesting guys, I'll be honest there was times when I had to strain to try and understand what you were saying. But for someone who loves Rugby this was absolute bliss. As if it needs to be said CJ is a treasure in Ireland, his attitude, personality, work ethic and humility is something that we all love. I could listen to you guys all day.
I am a bit slow to catch up on this (been watching the UK elections) but I agree that Shimmy is masterful in directing the conversation and Schalk is always very insightful and articulate.
Still can't believe Guinness hasn't made an advert figuring CJ. What a man from SA and for IRE
CJ is fantastic guy, loved in Ireland, he can’t lose with the series, he’s always a bok deep down but Ireland is big part of his story too. We miss you at Munster :-)
CJ is a legend
Love you guys …what a blast . Shimmy it is clear that the Bishops DNA helped you to overcome your Rondebosch experience . 😂😂. All you now need is to get Tim ( Egg catchers ) and Big John to join your show. Look forward to next week .
Shimmy has incredible charisma and you can tell all the guests have a great time on the show. Bloody good tight head in his day and a role model Bok and UCT coach. Schalla is a wealth of rugby knowledge, a living Bok legend and good value for banter.Same goes with JdV- one of the great captains the Boks have had in recent years. This show is truly an organic success- from RWC 2023 and beyond.
Did he also play tighthead? Only remembered him as a hooker
Really looking forward to this series, and great to see how excited the home fans are. A few Saffers on this thread are beyond confident though - it's never too bright to underestimate Ireland. Can't wait for Saturday!
Ireland will meet the rugby mad supporters in SA! Thy will frget thy name are Ireland thy will support the Boks to win
Great show! Shimmy is a brilliant host!
If only NZ pundits were so humble, funny and actual rugby knowledge 🙄JK is a joke from breakdown 🤣 love the Irish but seeing 6 point game for SA
Kirwan is an anamoly.
Watch the kiwi lads on rugby pass
What a complete load of dribble bro
@@ShiNooBi1986 Rugby Pass is great.
Diehard Bok supporter - I'm glad CJ is still totally loyal to Ireland. I'd lose respect for him if he was paper thin.
as an irish fan i always felt CJ was all in with us and that there confirms it. in SA surrounded by Saffas and still flying the flag. irish rugby legend.
@@bobby_bouche He was the ony pundit who predicted Ireland would win the 2nd test and he was spot on.
Legend CJ☘
Always a great show thanks guys
Man remember that game against the french in the beginning of the 6 nations. Maybe you guys see something different but the Irish are going to be brutal. I'm calling a 3 point margin.
Irish fan here. We would love another performance like that France game. It's hard to see it happening but I never underestimate Farrells' ability to get a performance out of players. Despite what the media and keyboard warriors say not many irish are expecting a win. I just wish leinster had taken stronger teams to play the lions earlier in the year.
what a legend and sadly retired too soon, straight shooter (like most saffas are) and overall great bloke!
Damn this show is power- the best
Schimmey, I still don’t know why the taxi didn’t want to give you a ride in Paris.
Shimmy, you sure offer a typical South African show, banter runs high, Schalk must be great at a tailgate braai, nice to hear CJ, seems like a nice guy, keep the Boks Ofice going.
Salut my Ma se kind! Shimmy Pivot! Lekke!
Munster man here ,love you CJ . Ireland for the series win💪
As an irish fan i think that ireland have a 23 to beat any team, however when it comes to world cups our lack of depth in key positions like loosehead, scrumhalf, full back, etc means that we dont have the quality back ups play that many games in such a short period of time. Every world cup winning team (aside from 1999) the team with the best squad and not just the best team has won?
Think we need to loosen the rule about overseas players for players with X amount of caps
Great Show!
So good to listen in as a kiwi - Burger is one of my all time favorite Boks! What a player
Love the old cast - best of the lot - JDV where you
Excellent
Undisputed springboks undisputed champions of rugby springboks forever 🎉🎉🎉
It's funny because the 'final that should have been' was mostly talked about from pundits from other countries like England, Scotland, Wales and France. Of course Ireland fancied their chances at the RWC but it's over and the boks proved themselves as the best team.
If Boks don’t bring their A Plus game it’s all over. Anything short and they lose.
I think this series will be very close - Ireland are an exceptional side so we must assume that altitude / physicality will get us over the line
Have to admire Schalk, he'd rather wear his daughter's socks rather than miss the show!
Nice one boys👍
it came after the 38-5(2017/18) loss in Ireland , the irish media lambasted the Boks , it was coetzee last game as coach.
As an irish fan let me tell you that nobody listens to the media here. There has always been a respect for the boks and will always be. They are the giants of rugby and what we aspire to be. People not from Ireland forget that we were terrible at rugby up until the 2000s and it took 9 more years for us to win a 6 nations. There probably was too much celebration after that big win against the boks (I forget) but it's long gone and we won't be winning like that again anytime soon.
Don't believe everything in the media. We have the greatest respect for what are the World Champions x 2 and the number 1 team in the world. We both are tough no nonsense teams that are proud of their teams and country. We also have had many SA players and coaches in Ireland so we are close rugby brothers. ☘️☘️
The AB has done it a few times and hit 50+ on occasions. Ireland defeated the AB at home twice. The AB then lost to the Puma and then the Bokkie in South Africa. Three loses in a row. The following weekend the AB beat the Bokkie. Ireland approach to a game is similar to that of the AB. You must win wherever you play and whoever you play. The AB legacy is built upon this approach. You must impose your will upon your opponent.
Buffalo on Schalk!
Go bokke!
south africans are sensitive af. See you in the final was a compliment like you guys are amazing you'll be in the final and hope to see you there... jesus xD
Ezebeth not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Why on earth is that a compliment? Because you've never been past the quarters, so how did the Irish players think they'd get passed ABs.
We are sensitive because we lose to the ABs when we shouldn't. It's called respect.
Ever since Ireland got to number 1, you guys thought you shit ice cream 😅😅😅😅. I respect Ireland, probably respect Wales more. They don't change because they've moved up the rankings and they are a real rugby nation.
You guys take yourselves way to seriously all of a sudden. Reminds us of the English. Fans not so much but your pundits are so snobby all of a sudden lol.
I love me Irish people by the way. But it doesn't suit you guys to be dicks. It suits us perfectly because that's who we are and as you can see by these legends talking here, we love a good laugh, especially at ourselves to be honest.
Will be a good game no matter what happens. I'm shitting bricks to be honest. Loftus and Durban go very quiet if the Boks are not playing well and some of our biggest defeats have been in these stadiums.
Also, Afrikaans guys are not about mincing and twisting their words, if Eben says that's what they said, that's exactly what they said.
Why would he lie about it? Not one Irish player has called his bluff.
We are sensitive and defensive. However, you would be too if you got the amount of flack our boys and we fans get💚💛🇿🇦
Seems you're the sensitive one - why have Eben's comments upset you so much. Toughen up tiger.
Poor Jean de Villiers, always catching stick.
Nice gents
Hey don't forger to plug this vlog during the match commentary.
Nice to see the man that ruined Lambie's career on a show
No is the answer!
As an Irish fan,
It's the end of a long season and I think Ireland could lose big, big players injured,
And I'd be shocked if they won
South Africa has a global team, S.A players are also fatigued. Injuries, Kitshoff, Kleyn, de jager, vermeulen retired, mapimpi and willemse out. It doesn't make sense to bring that up when S.A have that to deal with
Nobody on the SA side have played on a winning side against Ireland !!!!
Nobody in the history of Irish rugby has played in a World Cup Semi-Final!!!! Uno reverse.
😂dude Faf ,malherbe ,eben ,siya,PSDT ,de allende ,kriel and willie beat you here in 2016 here .😂😂😂😂 go check your facts korrelkop
All of them have now.. 27-20
hope I'm wrong but Ireland are on a downward curve and seemed tired at the end of the season. Throw in a good few first choicers missing, I think it has to be South Africa
Homies beer there must be as hot as the african sun by now.
I think the Springboks will win game 1.
I expect 6-8 changes for game 2 by the Springboks and that will allow the Irish a win in Durban.
There wont be 6-8 changes in 2nd game. Maybe 2 or 3 at a stretch.
Lads dont forget the best full back in the world is missing hugo keenan
Damian Wilemse also out.
The Irish players have been pretty awful lately, they could have done with the summer off; like the French - but they made themselves available... if this was in Cape Town, I think it would have been close, but I think the Boks will win by at least 10. Good luck guys, enjoy the game!
I love the South African culture, but maybe let the presnters lay off the brandy and beer a bit before this show
seems like the comment "World Cup final that should have been" really cut the Boks deep!
It's pretty disrespectful and dismissive of the two top rugby nations of all time that sent the Irish and French packing in the QF.
Doesn't cut deep, just highlights NH hubris.
Lekke schalla
Let's not underestimate Ireland. That being said, I think they're in trouble.
Boks seem up for this one and Ireland (80% Leinster) just don't.
"See you in the final?". Nah, we'll see you at Loftus instead 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
Ireland is not 80% Leinster.. POM, Crowley , Casey , aki , Murray . Nash. Beirne. Finay McCloskey ; Henderson, Hansen, jager, plus more are all players who start for ireland or are taken off the bench during the 80 mins. It’s a different set of management completely . That and there is only 4 provinces to play for in ireland. So the numbers will always be skewed. But I do think we are running a bit of on empty now. But Leinster is not ireland.. and eben still won’t name a player.. it’s now no less then 6 or 7 but no more then 20 😂 he can’t remember because it never happened 😂 loftus is an irish surname by the way 😂
Ireland is not 80% Leinster.. POM, Crowley , Casey , aki , Murray . Nash. Beirne. Finay McCloskey ; Henderson, Hansen, jager, plus more are all players who start for ireland or are taken off the bench during the 80 mins. It’s a different set of management completely . That and there is only 4 provinces to play for in ireland. So the numbers will always be skewed. But I do think we are running a bit of on empty now. But Leinster is not ireland
Such a child!
How can a guy who sounds like CJ Stander play for any other country?
He actually was developing a bit of a hybrid accent towards the end of his life in Ireland but has obviously lost it since moving back to SA
He was told to piss off by SA coaches
He was sent packing by SA coaches
@@joemoody7440 Blatant lie.
@@joemoody7440 He even trained with the Springbok squad in 2012. He was only 22. No one told him to leave. He was playing Super Rugby for the Bulls.
So are shouting for Ireland or SA ????? CJ... 😂
Errrm no no no
I prefer my Irish guests to have Irish accents
You'll survive
Noyone said he had to have one. And btw the 'real' Irish accent is as rare as Irish people who speak Gaelic.
The accent there is mostly Anglo-Saxon, go listen to a North-German Saxon speaker vs an Irishman from Munster and you'll here no difference...
Tadhg Furlong I reckon has the real Irish accent, which is Gaelic derived, not what most hear, which is Saxon derived.
@@JohnTerblanche-l1r that’s not true at all. What a load of BS 😂😂
Ireland is unique in its accents. There are so many. Go to Belfast, the cork and then Dublin. All totally different. Nothing like ‘Anglo Saxon’ except maybe in parts of Dublin.
@@JohnTerblanche-l1r you've never been to Ireland lad.
@@JohnTerblanche-l1rthank you for educating us🙏🇿🇦
Not that stunning. They are a fantastic rugby team. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Full time whistle will tell.
Can’t stand this guy. Maybe an accident, maybe not. Poor choice of guest.
😴😴😴😕🤯🤑
Ireland keep telling us guys like Gibson-Park, Aki. Lowe, Hansen are Irish. Why does all these chameleons who play for them run back to their country of birth when they retire? Thought they were Irish?
Chill they are still playing, havent retired yet.
Hansen is Irish. His mother moved to Australia.
Gibson Park and Hanson not playing kid
Go talk to allblacks about their multinational pack mate.😂😂😂😂?
Wasn't "The Beast" a Zimbabwean citizen???? Lol go look in the mirror Steyn before getting on your pious little preacher pulpit. 😂😂😂😂
Hanson isn’t playing but is Irish his mother is from cork once you have one Irish parent you’re Irish citizen. Gibson Park, Aki and Lowe they qualified on residency. As I recall CJ returned to South Africa mostly because of his wife she missed her family and sacrificed a lot for him to have his career. So he owed her. I doubt Aki low or Gibson Park will return to New Zealand there already so settled in Ireland and Even when they retire they will be well looked after with adverts, commentary, coaching positions .
Think they can win in SA god Wales did😂😂
Only problem is the threats and abuse ref and his family will get online from bok fans. Sound familiar?
It was a throwaway game to bleed a bunch of debutants, you little muppet.
Go have a lie down mate.
Boks getting abused and threatened during the WC. Sounds familiar ?
@@wot4922 makes a change. Must have made some enemies from the abuse
The Irish never abuse officials hey? Johnny Sexton wasn't banned just before this last World Cup? Ref Grainne Crabtree receiving sexist verbal abuse? Wayne Barnes after he officiated the All Blacks Ireland World Cup?
I enjoy the show, but the moment CJ said he would cheer for ireland I got angry again. Traitor he should go live there. Hy's 'n POES
Why? He played for Ireland 51 times.
Dude you need some serious therapy. Got some anger issues there. Shame man. Chill a bietjie man.
Calm down. The rules are bs. Residency should be 10 years but you cant blame him.
Have another brandy and settle down
@@thehalf8 you have some anger issues. My two brandies might be better.
Great podcast 💪💪💪💪🏆🏆🏆🏆🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
These games are such fine margins and the Boks have the advantage on those margins for this series with JGP and Keenan out. Will take something else for us to get a draw in this series. Should still be epic matches!