Okay sorry I agreed with the guy in the white shirt more, but once he said Enchanted was abysmal, literally everything else he said went out the window lol. That's her literal best song, the epitome of any Taylor Swift song. It's over the top dramatic, it's romantic, it's fairytale-like. All the things Taylor is known for and actually should be known for.
Exactly, I get, that's it's uneven, but Red is also and it's considered to be one od Taylor Swift best albums' so far. Evermore could also be przed as Red bigger sister.
1. Popcast Deluxe (and original recipe Popcast) has been the highlight of every week of mine for the past year. PLEASE be back soon 2. Not sure what your TH-cam plans are, but please also consider doing a Hot Ones episode for the people
PLEASE do not stop popcast deluxe yt. This is legit my fav podcast and I wait for it every week. Please please powerful peeps in meetings, keep this podcast going. Joe and John are gifts and so brilliant at what they do. Love them and love this podcast. Been a massive fan since the Ashlee episodes.
In my opinion, Lavender Haze and Maroon are some of her best songs lol Love that she worked with new producers on Lavender Haze, really brought out the r&b vibe that I love from Taylor.
I hate to comment, but pleaseeee don't stop this series, we love the full episodes - I've been checking my work laptop TH-cam every Thursday hoping that a new Deluxe episode has come out! The split videos just made it difficult to ensure I had seen all that had been released, but I adore the full hour of chat and snacks.
I hope you will do a follow-up episode in which you factor in the re-records and vault songs. In your minds, how do those song stack up in the context of the rest of the discography? Which of them improve/detract from the discography? (BTW: TTPD is my all-time favorite album. Not just fave TS, but fave ever. And I'm a 66yo guy who enjoys a wide range of music (my previous fave was Metallica), so I'm not basing on limited experience with music.)
I discovered the podcast about 3 weeks ago and have been going through the entire back catalog just to catch up and hear its ending???? This is like the 4th show in the past year that have ended within a month of me finding it, AM I A HARBINGER OF DEATH??? Anyways I'm willing to stop watching if it means this wonderful podcast can continue, hoping for the best but thank you for all the laughs and horribly aged takes if this is the end
48:10 Ed Sheeran's line in End Game is "After the storm, something was born on the Fourth of July" which refers to a Fourth of July party Taylor hosted that Ed attended and remet his would be fiancé. Ed has also stated that it's a play on words, as there is also a film with Tom Cruise called "Born On the Fourth of July"
I have finished my discography listen this morning and here is my ranking: 1. Speak Now 2. Folklore 3. reputation 4. Lover 5. Self Titled 6. Evermore 7. Fearless 8. Red 9. Midnights 10. The Tortured Poets Department 11. 1989 Thank you guys for the great work
It's 3am in here , i have a 9 am class 2moro and it's the best podcast episode i have ever watched ....i love Taylor and i love you guys as the best critics
I would pay for a separate subscription just to have these episodes visually. The two of you, including snacks/visual presence, are a part of my week I genuinely look forward to. Notifs are on NYT… notifs are never on
For most of the US leg of the Eras Tour, Enchanted was the ONLY song on the setlist from Speak Now so people making playlists of the set list would boost the song. Don't know why that was hard to figure out😅
Been a fan for years and watching you two, your faces, it’s next level! John imitating the Eras Tour dancers’ expressions during The Man after he saw the movie… it changed lives! NYT you didn’t let this cook. For the first few months, the channel was spamming audio only deluxe and deterring subs. Please continue!
To me, Jon Caramanica and Joe Coscarell are by far the best pop star commentaries. Every criticism you guys have made in the podcast is constructive and hilarious. Thank you so much for devoting the entire episode for ranking Taylor Swift's album with your most candid and conflicting opinion. 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
This episode caused me to finally to a full discography dive (originals). Just finished Reputation, very close second to Speak Now so far!! Thank you guys
Glad Jon, in his coming around to The Last Great American Dynasty, has realized that we shouldn't limit our ideas of "theatricality" to bombast and camp. I can't believe I'm quoting the only Glee episode I've ever loved, but maybe theatricality doesn't have to be a nuclear explosion. It can be like a quiet storm that still radiates authentic emotion, even if every line isn't a confession of quotidian detail. And TLGAD is definitely theatrical. Heck, look at the Eras Tour performance of it.
Lover is insane but as a casual listener who jumps in and out of her music, I somehow made it past the garbage singles and ended up absolutely loving that album. It’s not cohesive but there are so many great songs on it. Glad you both appreciate Speak Now for the masterpiece that it is
Please don't stop the podcast! In fact, put it all back together as one long podcast instead of segmented bits. I wait until they are all out so I can watch them in order, as if it were a full episode. Don't give up on snack chat!
Love you guys...this episode was so good. I've gotten to know both of you well enough that i had a pretty good where your top choices might fall. Surprised you never discussed the fact that its her most recent recordings that are least-liked (other than Jon's shocking 9th inning embrace of Poets), which signals another TS reset might be in order. More importantly, I originally thought i'd hate the 'snacks' segment. I LOVE THE SNACKS SEGMENTS!! Thanks guys for everything
I would put Fearless in tier S and move Red down to tier A but otherwise this isn't a bad way of looking at it. I would also swap Lover and Speak Now because, although Lover isn't perfect, the highs are so, so high.
@@k.v.1921 tbh i didnt give it a fair chance i listened to the first 4 tracks intensely and the rest just played while i was doing chores cuz i got bored of the production
@@chunli6197 Yeah, my first listen was pretty up-and-down but it kept growing on me. I don't have the same gripes about the production that you and others have mentioned. It's LONG but that's actually what keeps me coming back to it. I can choose different sections of the album (Anthology version) to enjoy on different days. My top 5-10 tracks are still constantly changing.
Glad her earlier work with more country flavors are well appreciated by both of you. Her best output will always be her root there, unlike how most gen Z try to play it down.
Wow there are some absolutely wild opinions on this video!! Reminds me of how people used to complain back in 2012 about her switching from country to pop. The fact that some of the songs were misnamed - 👀
While I disagree with a lot of their opinions and agree with many too, you can’t deny that these are well thought out and effectively communicated musical reflections. Very convincing and true to their musical tastes, and I respect that!
My list based off of most likely to listen front to back. Her earlier stuff is nostalgic but there are more songs I’d “skip” - it’s just so hard cause I actually love them all!! lol 1. rep 2. TTPD 3. lover 4. Folkmore 5. evermore 6. Speak Now 7. 1989 8. Midnights 9. Red 10. fearless 11. Debut
FYI, I’m 34, 2 months older than Taylor to the day (October 13, 1989, shout out lucky 13s!) and the entry point for me was NOT Folklore (which I absolutely adore as an album). My entry point was Reputation, and it was all thanks to Popcast. Joe you are right, do us a favor and just lean over and give Caramanica a little whack on the head for us to knock those loose screws back into place that have the NYT Popcast host being so WRONG about Folklore! Jon! You’re coming around TTPD (excellent reversal on your position on that one btw). But Jon! Come on! Enough already! Accept the inevitable and admit that Folklore is a one of her best albums. Accept it, Jon. You didn’t like Reputation very much I recall from Popcast when it came out. You’ve accepted TTPD’s excellence. Enough tomfoolery. Loved this Popcast deluxe. I could watch you guys talk about Taylor Swift all day every day. I could also watch you experience interesting hot Cheeto flavors all day every day as well. Keep it up. Disclaimer: please don’t actually inflict any violence by hitting Caramanica on the head. Maybe give him a really really dirty look, though. P.S.- Xxtra Flamin’ Hot Cheetos are the superior Cheeto just as Folklore is the superior Taylor album. Not sure if you have them in New York, grab a bag next time you’re in the southwest. Shout out New Mexico!
1989, The Tortured Poets Department, Folklore, Reputation, and Midnights are all my favourite it just depends on what one i'm listening to, I love 1989 for the complete joy of it, i love Reputation for upping the synths, I love Folklore for it's beauty, I love Midnights because i love Midnights, and i love The Tortured Poets Department because every time i listen to it, it gets better and better and i have a new favourite from it each time. I've never actually been interested in anything pre 1989, maybe one day that will change.
PLEASE keep the Joe and Jon episodes going
WAIT....Popcast Deluxe on YT no more?! Simply illegal. Tell the people in the meetings they must continue.
Okay sorry I agreed with the guy in the white shirt more, but once he said Enchanted was abysmal, literally everything else he said went out the window lol. That's her literal best song, the epitome of any Taylor Swift song. It's over the top dramatic, it's romantic, it's fairytale-like. All the things Taylor is known for and actually should be known for.
Please continue the full TH-cam episodes, a highlight of my week every week!
As soon as he said Evermore my jaw dropped like WHAT? Did he really listen to the lyrics?!!
I KNOW!!! 😂
oh no this is literally the best international music podcast there is dont let it end pleeease
Speak Now is her best yes but evermore being one of her worsts noooooo way
Exactly, I get, that's it's uneven, but Red is also and it's considered to be one od Taylor Swift best albums' so far. Evermore could also be przed as Red bigger sister.
Evermore is by far my least favourite album haha
@@petermichaelwakelingso, you haven’t listened to it?
@@Deborah_swanson I have, hence why it's my least favourite. 1989 - Lover is where it's at.
this spoiler, girl frog you
TTPD has a grower not a shower according to the Swiftoligist. I know I can’t stop listening to it.
Same!
10000%. Even my husband thought it was weird at first and now loves it 😂
Had to jump on here to say ... absolutely love watching you guys... popcast deluxe has to continue!
Please don’t stop making Popcasts!!
Please keep the videos coming!!! I discovered this podcast recently and have binged every episode
1. Popcast Deluxe (and original recipe Popcast) has been the highlight of every week of mine for the past year. PLEASE be back soon
2. Not sure what your TH-cam plans are, but please also consider doing a Hot Ones episode for the people
Why it's the final episode are is the podcast cancelled?
PLEASE do not stop popcast deluxe yt. This is legit my fav podcast and I wait for it every week. Please please powerful peeps in meetings, keep this podcast going. Joe and John are gifts and so brilliant at what they do. Love them and love this podcast. Been a massive fan since the Ashlee episodes.
Right? That's so sad
Why are yall going? I need these on YT 😭
Noo!!! I’ve been loving these!!! Please keep these episodes
In my opinion, Lavender Haze and Maroon are some of her best songs lol Love that she worked with new producers on Lavender Haze, really brought out the r&b vibe that I love from Taylor.
Bish why u here🤨
I hate to comment, but pleaseeee don't stop this series, we love the full episodes - I've been checking my work laptop TH-cam every Thursday hoping that a new Deluxe episode has come out! The split videos just made it difficult to ensure I had seen all that had been released, but I adore the full hour of chat and snacks.
Y'all came back from hiatus w a BANG
"Aaron Dessner coming up from the swamp" 10/10 commentary, no notes gentlemen
I respect the defense of Reputation! Always loved Jon for his consistent stance on Reputation. He's been a 100000% right from when the album came out!
1. Evermore
2. Speak now
3. Folklore
4. Red
5. 1989
6. Reputation
7. The tortured poets department
8. Midnights
9. Lover
10. Fearless
11. Self-titled
why is this the final full episode? lame. tell your boss that videos help deaf people enjoy it.
Please keep Popcast Deluxe going! I love Jon and Joe together and prefer Deluxe episodes and topics over regular Popcast.
I hope you will do a follow-up episode in which you factor in the re-records and vault songs. In your minds, how do those song stack up in the context of the rest of the discography? Which of them improve/detract from the discography?
(BTW: TTPD is my all-time favorite album. Not just fave TS, but fave ever. And I'm a 66yo guy who enjoys a wide range of music (my previous fave was Metallica), so I'm not basing on limited experience with music.)
👏 i applaud you Bro
This is so cute!!!!
More popcast pls! I’ve recently discovered yall and have been enjoying every second of going back and watching all the episodes
WE NEED TH-cam POPCAST (DELUXE)!!! Don’t stop please - it’s my favourite part of the week!!!
I discovered the podcast about 3 weeks ago and have been going through the entire back catalog just to catch up and hear its ending???? This is like the 4th show in the past year that have ended within a month of me finding it, AM I A HARBINGER OF DEATH??? Anyways I'm willing to stop watching if it means this wonderful podcast can continue, hoping for the best but thank you for all the laughs and horribly aged takes if this is the end
Please keep the TH-cam episodes coming
48:10 Ed Sheeran's line in End Game is "After the storm, something was born on the Fourth of July" which refers to a Fourth of July party Taylor hosted that Ed attended and remet his would be fiancé. Ed has also stated that it's a play on words, as there is also a film with Tom Cruise called "Born On the Fourth of July"
This is the content I've been waiting for since 2009.
wtf this is my favourite podcast and among the most insightful/thoughtful pop music shows on youtube :((((
JAIL for 'the way I loved you' slander!!!!
Oh no please don’t stop podcast deluxe on TH-cam!! I love it so much!
Another wonderful episode with some spicy takes. I like it! Haha
I have finished my discography listen this morning and here is my ranking:
1. Speak Now
2. Folklore
3. reputation
4. Lover
5. Self Titled
6. Evermore
7. Fearless
8. Red
9. Midnights
10. The Tortured Poets Department
11. 1989
Thank you guys for the great work
It's 3am in here , i have a 9 am class 2moro and it's the best podcast episode i have ever watched ....i love Taylor and i love you guys as the best critics
I would pay for a separate subscription just to have these episodes visually. The two of you, including snacks/visual presence, are a part of my week I genuinely look forward to. Notifs are on NYT… notifs are never on
glazing dear john is absolutely warranted. love you guys
For most of the US leg of the Eras Tour, Enchanted was the ONLY song on the setlist from Speak Now so people making playlists of the set list would boost the song. Don't know why that was hard to figure out😅
Been a fan for years and watching you two, your faces, it’s next level! John imitating the Eras Tour dancers’ expressions during The Man after he saw the movie… it changed lives! NYT you didn’t let this cook. For the first few months, the channel was spamming audio only deluxe and deterring subs. Please continue!
To me, Jon Caramanica and Joe Coscarell are by far the best pop star commentaries. Every criticism you guys have made in the podcast is constructive and hilarious. Thank you so much for devoting the entire episode for ranking Taylor Swift's album with your most candid and conflicting opinion. 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
This episode caused me to finally to a full discography dive (originals). Just finished Reputation, very close second to Speak Now so far!! Thank you guys
the wait is over
god I miss this show on YT. I hope I'll get around to sending an email, but on the off-chance y'all see this plz come back ASAP (:
lowkey need these two to give me a guide to joni mitchell. both of my parents are LATAM immigrants so there is no vinyl of joni at my house.
I truly love Popcast Deluxe with all my heart.
Please keep the TH-cam episodes and popcast deluxe! I like them even more than normal popcast. This episode was so good and hilarious!
I love your Taylor Swift discussions, and despite having different opinions over the ranking, I find the reasonings valid.
This is my favourite music and culture podcast, please keep it going!
Glad Jon, in his coming around to The Last Great American Dynasty, has realized that we shouldn't limit our ideas of "theatricality" to bombast and camp. I can't believe I'm quoting the only Glee episode I've ever loved, but maybe theatricality doesn't have to be a nuclear explosion. It can be like a quiet storm that still radiates authentic emotion, even if every line isn't a confession of quotidian detail. And TLGAD is definitely theatrical. Heck, look at the Eras Tour performance of it.
also btw the male voice in her older songs is nathan chapman her country producer
We love pop cast deluxe please keep it!
Joe I’ll see you in the front row of the Taylor swift B side tour 🫡
PLEASE keep the TH-cam episodes, even if it's just Audio PLEASE
Please don’t let this end, I’ve literally just discovered it and I love it!
who EXACTLY do I need to email, my kings??
Lover is insane but as a casual listener who jumps in and out of her music, I somehow made it past the garbage singles and ended up absolutely loving that album. It’s not cohesive but there are so many great songs on it. Glad you both appreciate Speak Now for the masterpiece that it is
Please don't stop the podcast! In fact, put it all back together as one long podcast instead of segmented bits. I wait until they are all out so I can watch them in order, as if it were a full episode. Don't give up on snack chat!
Love you guys...this episode was so good. I've gotten to know both of you well enough that i had a pretty good where your top choices might fall. Surprised you never discussed the fact that its her most recent recordings that are least-liked (other than Jon's shocking 9th inning embrace of Poets), which signals another TS reset might be in order. More importantly, I originally thought i'd hate the 'snacks' segment. I LOVE THE SNACKS SEGMENTS!! Thanks guys for everything
I love this podcast ep to bits. Surprised at the no 'All Too Well' talk!
oh we're getting fed SO WELL RN
PLEASE KEEP THE EPISODES GOING
‘Has Enchanted had a second wind’? Well, thanks to the Eras tour, yes.
literally went viral on tiktok too before the eras tour
she has 4 tier S albums: Red,1989,reputation and folklore
3 A tier : Fearless,speak now,evermore
2 tier B : debut,lover
2 tier c: midnights,ttpd
I would put Fearless in tier S and move Red down to tier A but otherwise this isn't a bad way of looking at it. I would also swap Lover and Speak Now because, although Lover isn't perfect, the highs are so, so high.
I'd swap TTPD and Rep and then you're pretty spot on. TTPD has had me in a chokehold for the past 3 months.
@@k.v.1921 tbh i didnt give it a fair chance i listened to the first 4 tracks intensely and the rest just played while i was doing chores cuz i got bored of the production
@@chunli6197 Yeah, my first listen was pretty up-and-down but it kept growing on me. I don't have the same gripes about the production that you and others have mentioned. It's LONG but that's actually what keeps me coming back to it. I can choose different sections of the album (Anthology version) to enjoy on different days. My top 5-10 tracks are still constantly changing.
Ranking 1989 lower than Lover is an actual crime
Rep and speaknow as top albums are very respectable choices, even tho evermore was did dirty
This is the beauty of criticism live in action
One is so wrong about rep and the other is so wrong about evermore so it evens out. 😂 Very much enjoyed this discussion!
Exactly my thoughts!! Lolol
Glad her earlier work with more country flavors are well appreciated by both of you. Her best output will always be her root there, unlike how most gen Z try to play it down.
This is my fav podcast!! And u guys r my fav hosts!
Taylor Swift record- my list
- [ ] Speak Now
- [ ] Reputation
- [ ] Folklore
- [ ] Fearless
- [ ] Taylor Swift
- [ ] Evermore
- [ ] 1989
- [ ] TPD
- [ ] Midnights
- [ ] Red
- [ ] Lover
Please don’t leave TH-cam!!!!
They are?
Shocker: Jon Caramanica praising TTPD. Jon must be in that niche fanbase of Taylor Swift, the 1975 and the Blue Nile. 😊
No last on youtube wtf
"it still comes down to writing for me" kind of swiftie is me.
Wow there are some absolutely wild opinions on this video!! Reminds me of how people used to complain back in 2012 about her switching from country to pop. The fact that some of the songs were misnamed - 👀
Please keep Jon & Joe in the chairs!! Bridging the gap for the artsy and cynical poptimist
Yes!!!!
I have never seen a person with the same rankings on Taylor albums. It depends on my mood. TTPD is relatable for me. ☹
Love this podcast! You can't go without saying what do you think about C,XOXO..
Petition to stay on TH-cam 🤟🏿
You need to keep going 🥺
You two know musical talent and have blown me the fuck away 🤯
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. I need DELUXE every week!
Ok, Reputation is good but not that good! I appreciate the love for Speak Now and Fearless. And, I also struggle with Midnights. 💯
Pppplease keep video pods!!! Who do we email? 🙏🏼
While I disagree with a lot of their opinions and agree with many too, you can’t deny that these are well thought out and effectively communicated musical reflections. Very convincing and true to their musical tastes, and I respect that!
the Evermore opinions are...choices.
My list based off of most likely to listen front to back. Her earlier stuff is nostalgic but there are more songs I’d “skip” - it’s just so hard cause I actually love them all!! lol
1. rep
2. TTPD
3. lover
4. Folkmore
5. evermore
6. Speak Now
7. 1989
8. Midnights
9. Red
10. fearless
11. Debut
I love you guys omg
Didn’t know I needed this until it happened🙌🏾
I thought you guys are retired after getting an award from iheart radio 😭
What award
@@jimbob2427 they won best podcast or something at iheartradio. They talk about it and showed the award in one of the previous episodes
FYI, I’m 34, 2 months older than Taylor to the day (October 13, 1989, shout out lucky 13s!) and the entry point for me was NOT Folklore (which I absolutely adore as an album). My entry point was Reputation, and it was all thanks to Popcast. Joe you are right, do us a favor and just lean over and give Caramanica a little whack on the head for us to knock those loose screws back into place that have the NYT Popcast host being so WRONG about Folklore! Jon! You’re coming around TTPD (excellent reversal on your position on that one btw). But Jon! Come on! Enough already! Accept the inevitable and admit that Folklore is a one of her best albums. Accept it, Jon. You didn’t like Reputation very much I recall from Popcast when it came out. You’ve accepted TTPD’s excellence. Enough tomfoolery.
Loved this Popcast deluxe. I could watch you guys talk about Taylor Swift all day every day. I could also watch you experience interesting hot Cheeto flavors all day every day as well. Keep it up.
Disclaimer: please don’t actually inflict any violence by hitting Caramanica on the head. Maybe give him a really really dirty look, though.
P.S.- Xxtra Flamin’ Hot Cheetos are the superior Cheeto just as Folklore is the superior Taylor album. Not sure if you have them in New York, grab a bag next time you’re in the southwest. Shout out New Mexico!
I love your entire comment and thoroughly support and second your xxtra flamin hot Cheetos opinion. 💯
@@kellyrench8173 Thank you! I support your support of my support of XXtra flaming’ hot Cheetos.
Obligatory PLEASE do not cancel Popcast deluxe with the YT vids!
Also obligatory ABSOLUTELY NOT to TTPD being 5th best TS album. Absolutely not.
Oh I am SEATED and ready for Joe to be so wrong about rep once again.
AND for John to be so wrong about evermore
John’s TTPD journey has me emotional 😂
1989, The Tortured Poets Department, Folklore, Reputation, and Midnights are all my favourite it just depends on what one i'm listening to, I love 1989 for the complete joy of it, i love Reputation for upping the synths, I love Folklore for it's beauty, I love Midnights because i love Midnights, and i love The Tortured Poets Department because every time i listen to it, it gets better and better and i have a new favourite from it each time. I've never actually been interested in anything pre 1989, maybe one day that will change.
The "I hate Out of the Woods" killed me - haha
I need more popcast deluxe!
SPEAK NOW SUPREMACY 💜💜💜
YESSSSS!!!! Jon you are my hero. Give Rep it's flowers 🖤🖤
“Here’s where I start to lose people”
You lost me at your first decision (you both did actually) lol… but I respect your point of view.
I was hurt a million little times listening to their opinions
How on earth I’m on the number 9 and they didn’t said the debut album? HOW?
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