Do Both, do a round at the start without any banter to get everyone familiar with the thought process - then the rest of the video can include banter the whole time.
Ehh could do push to talk style for games like this h2o delirious and cartoonz as an example. Press and banter, release tell the audience what youre thinking. Brings way more life to the gameplay. Gives enough to both sides of the aisle.
They should bring in two more guys so they someone to talk to, like Kosmo and Moonbo. Keep the conversations separate so they say their though processes, but definitely need someone to banter with.
@Christopher Vo honestly not too bad idea. I've personally not played this game. But from what seen soo far this game only meant for 2 players . Soo this would be great idea if game let's you have 2v2
@@Gpz0 I love this idea! I was thinking they should either do half talking to each other and then half working out their thought process, as it's great to have both, but having a third and fourth person to chat with would be interesting. Not sure how it would affect game balance though, since you do have an extra pair of eyes for the sniper to look for the spy, whereas the spy is just one guy talking to another guy giving his thoughts on what he's doing, but I think it would be interesting to at least try to see if it could work.
So here's a question: do you already know this game really well? And if you don't, are you even watching the video? Or are you just listening to it as some kind of ASMR.
I am glad for this one episode explaining your thought processes for the game, but this one should be enough. I hope we get the banter between you two back going forward.
I definitely prefer this style where you explain what your doing or what your planning. Having never played the game its nice to be able to follow along, and being able to know what your doing as the spy is more entertaining.
Have you seen the one where the sniper is in the middle of a circular room - or the one where there’s a massive fish tank where you can use the shark as cover? The level design is devilish for making the sniper’s life difficult 😅
Eh, I prefer the talk between you guys the whole time. It's more interesting, also funny. Being like Oh damnit! you already got that! This isn't as fun.
This is wildly entertaining. I've never even heard of this game, but I understand a little bit now. It's hilarious out of context. To someone that had no idea how it worked at first, hearing something like "Oh, just needed the banana bread, and you got me as I touched his butt" had me confused in all the best ways.
This is infinitely better than it was before. Before it was just like watching a security camera at TGI Fridays for half an hour. The comments seem to be generally negative but the views for this video have already passed the views from your video a week ago. If you don't know this game very well, something like this is necessary. I'm gonna guess retention is also way up over the other video.
Over only just seen these guys through the algorithm. I think something caught it there so I don't know how much you should put into views compared the other style. I prefer hearing banter between ppl, if they don't talk to each other it gets very samey. "Seen it before, normal breakdown" the banter and personality is where I stay with a creator or not. (Haven't watched yet, but going to watch the other rounds too)
@@LucidDreamexe Its up to 40k now. The other on is at 11k. I wrote that comment when this one was at 13k. The algorithm caught it for a reason and that reason is probably retention time. The other video was almost unwatchable if you didn't have some familiarity with the game. I'll have to check kAN's video and see if he's seeing the same thing though his did't go up until later. We won't know unless one of them tells us about the analytics and generally Dapper doesn't respond in the comments too much, but he also makes marbles videos that get 200k or more views pretty regularly so its understandable.
@@LucidDreamexe i agree! I also got recommended this (pretty much out of nowhere since I do not watch these people or this game) but this thought process thing does get sorta stale by the 2nd game, I personally think that playing with more people may help it be more interesting but idrk I haven't played this game so I wouldn't know..
What could be really cool would be if you sent each other your audio, so you could talk it out but then also include the other player's talking it out as well.
Comments seem pretty split in the two types of videos. I've never played this game before and was slightly lost to what was going on in the previous video. So I think for those like me that didn't know this game this version works well but as I catch up with what needs to be done the first video would be much better. 👍
I really like this format. It gives me better reason to watch both videos since I'm subbed to both of y'all. Usually it's just who's video I watched first then skip thru the next one. This give the same video more reply. Love it.
Have a visual indicator on the screen showing that you’re muted to him, and give you’re thoughts on what your doing then. That way you can banter whilst giving your thoughts at the same time.
Reminds me of I played dark souls 3 and at crucifixion woods i went to the upper northwest corner that you only get too by going through a part of the keep and isn't really anything up there. using a white branch and turning into a cross gravestone after using a driedfinger, then went afk for like 4 hours. Never got murdered but plenty of farrons guardians invaded and fought red invaders/the mad invaders. Other time i roleplayed as a silver knight in the aldrich faithful area by going offline killing a single silver knight with a greatbow, kicked his corpse into the abyss put on the armor and the greatbow saved and quit went back online, wielded the greatbow, used driedfinger and went afk to see how long i'd live before someone figured it out. No one ever did just kept killing each other after giving up looking for me. Good times, Good times.
never played this game, and i could follow what was happening perfectly fine. this was so much more, idk...lifeless? without kan narrating his sniper frustrations the whole time.
@@oldvlognewtricks me too actually!! But maybe they are both youtubers so this person didn't do that so the other one could also have content? I mean it wouldn't be a very bad idea to do that so people go watch your friends video for their side of commentary
@@DeathOfAnExecutionerr I suppose so - and it’s a lot of extra work if you usually do the equivalent of a stream - it just makes for an odd summary of the whole experience. Maybe they could have editing their videos so you can watch them both at once in split screen? 🤣
Can you explain the statue numbers? This is the first I've seen someone referring to them that way. I've watched a lot of Spy Party, but usually the people I've watched used hawk/eagle/bird, head, and idol, so when you say one, two, and three, I have no idea what means what.
Numbers are easier for me to remember than shapes! That's just how I memorize them. I assign them by the hieght. 1 the head being the shortest 2. the wierd looking on as gustavo said, and 3 the owl. (In short - 2132 lot quicker in my head than wierd thing / head / owl / wierd thing)
@@Waffleh7454 Fun fact. The "weird statue" is actually a real life statue known as a Venus figurine. They're well known in anthropology for being a very common statue in older European circles.
I started a game as spy, went straight to Toby and asked for a vodka martini shaken not stirred and announced myself as Bond James Bond. And immediately got shot. I think the sniper doesn’t understand how this game and the process of being a spy works!!! How can you be a famous spy if no one knows who you are???
Guest list is a paper in the middle of the drinks tray, banana bread is the code phrase that hearing it means the double agent has just been contacted, and i have no idea what greenlighting is
People seem to prefer the banter but I'm fine with this. Sure you might get some really good banter sometimes or you might get nothing too special. I prefer to know what's going on in the gameplay and it to be reliable.
Still kinda hard to follow sometimes because you just say "I think he's this guy", but there are like 20 guys lol. Should say "mustache guy" or "turban guy" or something.
@Cody Internet "spy party" and read what things are. I would type it all, but that would take more time then reading. Also reading about it talks about people in positions when a move happens. The gold figures as numbers, is how Dapper calls the figures in his head, 1,2 and 3s. I sure hope what I wrote helps out.
This game isn't my speed because I have almost no idea what's going on, and apparently you need to be super aware of everything going on and have a great memory to keep track of all the suspects.
why does everyone in this game look like their from the sims xD. I actually thought it was a sims game when i clicked this. However I am not disappointed by what it actually was.
Do Both, do a round at the start without any banter to get everyone familiar with the thought process - then the rest of the video can include banter the whole time.
Dapper, stop using your alts to get us to just agree to what you want!
@@wow-roblox8370 but I'm a real person! I promise!
You know, dapper is a real person too, we're on to you
No
Maybe it's just me, but, I'd like to see the same round twice: once from the spy pov, and the next from the sniper pov.
i think an edit between perspectives would be nice, like cutting between the two when there's important stuff
like maybe alternating?
@@hanR6 with internal monologue
That’s what I kept waiting for
I would like no cuts, just two full recordings of the same session, one from each side.
Ehh could do push to talk style for games like this h2o delirious and cartoonz as an example. Press and banter, release tell the audience what youre thinking. Brings way more life to the gameplay. Gives enough to both sides of the aisle.
THIS
or just do the banter. Its not too tricky to follow.
Are you kidding me, I like hearing the banter between you two.
Ikr . Even tho did enjoy this, but banter between u2 I liked that more . Honestly booo peeps that complained
They should bring in two more guys so they someone to talk to, like Kosmo and Moonbo. Keep the conversations separate so they say their though processes, but definitely need someone to banter with.
@Christopher Vo honestly not too bad idea.
I've personally not played this game. But from what seen soo far this game only meant for 2 players . Soo this would be great idea if game let's you have 2v2
@@Gpz0 I love this idea! I was thinking they should either do half talking to each other and then half working out their thought process, as it's great to have both, but having a third and fourth person to chat with would be interesting. Not sure how it would affect game balance though, since you do have an extra pair of eyes for the sniper to look for the spy, whereas the spy is just one guy talking to another guy giving his thoughts on what he's doing, but I think it would be interesting to at least try to see if it could work.
So here's a question: do you already know this game really well?
And if you don't, are you even watching the video? Or are you just listening to it as some kind of ASMR.
I am glad for this one episode explaining your thought processes for the game, but this one should be enough. I hope we get the banter between you two back going forward.
I definitely prefer this style where you explain what your doing or what your planning. Having never played the game its nice to be able to follow along, and being able to know what your doing as the spy is more entertaining.
Npc ngl 😂
@@tailis8489 not everyone who has a popular opinion is an npc 💀
"You were waiting for your 10 second timer so I was like 'Alright I just gotta take this shot on this brown guy' " 💀
I like that you two were explaining what you were doing it made so much more sense
I would love to hear each thought process intercut through a single round - although that might be an editing nightmare
Oh, some explanation on your thoughts during the round is a great idea. This seems to work a bit better for those who haven't played this game.
The visibility on that second map is rough holy crap
Have you seen the one where the sniper is in the middle of a circular room - or the one where there’s a massive fish tank where you can use the shark as cover? The level design is devilish for making the sniper’s life difficult 😅
For a cartoon game, this is more real then one might think.
Thanks for the shows Dapper.
Eh, I prefer the talk between you guys the whole time. It's more interesting, also funny. Being like Oh damnit! you already got that! This isn't as fun.
"Yeah, you were waiting for your 10 second timer so I was like alright, I just gotta take the shot on this brown guy"
Give me the chaos it's fun hearing all the banter
I prefer the banter too cause I do not understand this game but I understand it when dapper is a menace to Kan.
This is wildly entertaining. I've never even heard of this game, but I understand a little bit now. It's hilarious out of context. To someone that had no idea how it worked at first, hearing something like "Oh, just needed the banana bread, and you got me as I touched his butt" had me confused in all the best ways.
This is infinitely better than it was before. Before it was just like watching a security camera at TGI Fridays for half an hour. The comments seem to be generally negative but the views for this video have already passed the views from your video a week ago. If you don't know this game very well, something like this is necessary. I'm gonna guess retention is also way up over the other video.
Over only just seen these guys through the algorithm. I think something caught it there so I don't know how much you should put into views compared the other style.
I prefer hearing banter between ppl, if they don't talk to each other it gets very samey. "Seen it before, normal breakdown" the banter and personality is where I stay with a creator or not. (Haven't watched yet, but going to watch the other rounds too)
@@LucidDreamexe Its up to 40k now. The other on is at 11k. I wrote that comment when this one was at 13k.
The algorithm caught it for a reason and that reason is probably retention time. The other video was almost unwatchable if you didn't have some familiarity with the game.
I'll have to check kAN's video and see if he's seeing the same thing though his did't go up until later.
We won't know unless one of them tells us about the analytics and generally Dapper doesn't respond in the comments too much, but he also makes marbles videos that get 200k or more views pretty regularly so its understandable.
@@LucidDreamexe kAN does not have as many on his most recent one as he did his earlier one but its only been 1 day so far.
@@LucidDreamexe i agree! I also got recommended this (pretty much out of nowhere since I do not watch these people or this game) but this thought process thing does get sorta stale by the 2nd game, I personally think that playing with more people may help it be more interesting but idrk I haven't played this game so I wouldn't know..
I really like seeing you guys play this, I do miss the talking of you in rounds though
Such a fun game to watch, I like this whole talk us through your strategy format. Great video!
What could be really cool would be if you sent each other your audio, so you could talk it out but then also include the other player's talking it out as well.
When the waiter crouches down for the shorter guest 😂😂
5:33 you’d be a great police officer!
This was really good . I enjoyed it :) . I honestly didn't mind when both you were talking on last episode
Comments seem pretty split in the two types of videos. I've never played this game before and was slightly lost to what was going on in the previous video. So I think for those like me that didn't know this game this version works well but as I catch up with what needs to be done the first video would be much better. 👍
I really like this format. It gives me better reason to watch both videos since I'm subbed to both of y'all. Usually it's just who's video I watched first then skip thru the next one. This give the same video more reply. Love it.
Have a visual indicator on the screen showing that you’re muted to him, and give you’re thoughts on what your doing then. That way you can banter whilst giving your thoughts at the same time.
Reminds me of I played dark souls 3 and at crucifixion woods i went to the upper northwest corner that you only get too by going through a part of the keep and isn't really anything up there. using a white branch and turning into a cross gravestone after using a driedfinger, then went afk for like 4 hours. Never got murdered but plenty of farrons guardians invaded and fought red invaders/the mad invaders.
Other time i roleplayed as a silver knight in the aldrich faithful area by going offline killing a single silver knight with a greatbow, kicked his corpse into the abyss put on the armor and the greatbow saved and quit went back online, wielded the greatbow, used driedfinger and went afk to see how long i'd live before someone figured it out. No one ever did just kept killing each other after giving up looking for me.
Good times, Good times.
oh my goodness Dapper is all in my mouth with this video CERTIFIED DAPPER CLASSIC!!
never played this game, and i could follow what was happening perfectly fine. this was so much more, idk...lifeless? without kan narrating his sniper frustrations the whole time.
I was expecting to hear the commentary cut together in one video - it’s a bit one-sided to only hear about one half of the game
@@oldvlognewtricks me too actually!! But maybe they are both youtubers so this person didn't do that so the other one could also have content? I mean it wouldn't be a very bad idea to do that so people go watch your friends video for their side of commentary
@@DeathOfAnExecutionerr I suppose so - and it’s a lot of extra work if you usually do the equivalent of a stream - it just makes for an odd summary of the whole experience.
Maybe they could have editing their videos so you can watch them both at once in split screen? 🤣
I adore this, just the whole social deduction thing, it's amazing.
Much better this way :) Last video I was completely lost on what the game mechanics are.
Also, I love that dapper wanted top 1,000, reached his goal, then had to keep going!
Nice video. My opinion is that it is more entertaining to have you guys chat with each other.
Thank you for doing this episode. It was easier to pick up the rules with the talk through.
I like the banter
“I was sussing on that brown guy”
I used a 200 IQ Strat where I pretend to be an NPC in a game where you pretend to be an NPC! Shocking, must watch!
Yeah, pretending to be an NPC might be a time honored tradition in Dark Souls PVP, but here it's sort of the point.
@@XoRandomGuyoX I played Dark Souls and used a 200 IQ Strat... dodge rolling!
Can you explain the statue numbers? This is the first I've seen someone referring to them that way. I've watched a lot of Spy Party, but usually the people I've watched used hawk/eagle/bird, head, and idol, so when you say one, two, and three, I have no idea what means what.
1 is the head thing, 2 is the weird looking one and 3 is the owl
Numbers are easier for me to remember than shapes! That's just how I memorize them. I assign them by the hieght. 1 the head being the shortest 2. the wierd looking on as gustavo said, and 3 the owl. (In short - 2132 lot quicker in my head than wierd thing / head / owl / wierd thing)
@@Waffleh7454 Fun fact. The "weird statue" is actually a real life statue known as a Venus figurine. They're well known in anthropology for being a very common statue in older European circles.
Having both streams side-by-side, with audio in left and right channels could be an interesting way to present the video.
title’s like if a doom let’s play was called “i used a genius strat, killing the demons”
Yeah I do prefer the chatter while playing. This games been around for long enough for no explanation I feel
I started a game as spy, went straight to Toby and asked for a vodka martini shaken not stirred and announced myself as Bond James Bond. And immediately got shot. I think the sniper doesn’t understand how this game and the process of being a spy works!!! How can you be a famous spy if no one knows who you are???
First time watching this game. What’s a banana bread? 😂
So it is nice to see your thought process and all but the banter is better.
Key, Guests do NOT like to touch each other when standing in circles
i think this changes things would make it different and interesting, i like both when just talking but it does make it interesting at the same time
I am being uncivil and marginally disrespectful. Anarchy
9:20 HOW DID HE KNOW WHO WAS THE SPY?! I don´t know which is the guest list that disappeared
What an interesting concept for a game
Me: got ignored with no friends.
Also me: I used 200 IQ strat pretending to be an NPC in real life.
One of the entire points of this game is the banter between the players
"Sussing on that brown guy"
Love that you explained the thought process!
Doesn't this whole game revolve around pretending to be an npc?😂
Spy Party, the game where you play a Spy at a party.
I liked the banter, but I do think this is better. But the tree map is awful for spectating the sniper.
this is like oldschool Assassin's Creed multiplayer... miss those days
I still have no idea what's going on with this game. What the hell is green lighting a purloin, where is this guest list, and banana bread???
Guest list is a paper in the middle of the drinks tray, banana bread is the code phrase that hearing it means the double agent has just been contacted, and i have no idea what greenlighting is
People seem to prefer the banter but I'm fine with this. Sure you might get some really good banter sometimes or you might get nothing too special. I prefer to know what's going on in the gameplay and it to be reliable.
I like it also
no one cares
Susing the black typical cop lmao 😂😂😂
"i was sussing on that brown guy" "i just had to take the shot on this brown guy" 🤨🤨
I knew the Turban guy is Kan from the beginning.
dang, Dapper is a BEAST at this game
I love this, pls do more
Dapper is actually a secret agent. not joking. TH-cam is a rouse.
That was so good. Now I want to play.
this honestly looked like the sims
It looks like the sims in a good way
Still kinda hard to follow sometimes because you just say "I think he's this guy", but there are like 20 guys lol. Should say "mustache guy" or "turban guy" or something.
“i was sussing on that brown guy” racism
@thequietkidtm4282
I understand this is one year later. Earth only has one human race. And have a nice day.
The game looks fun but the price tag is pretty bonkers for such a game. This could very much be popular if they'd price it properly.
i missed seeing this game
this is so confusing ive no idea what yall are talking about lol, need a whole tutorial video of what everything is / means
@Cody Internet "spy party" and read what things are. I would type it all, but that would take more time then reading. Also reading about it talks about people in positions when a move happens. The gold figures as numbers, is how Dapper calls the figures in his head, 1,2 and 3s. I sure hope what I wrote helps out.
I like this version with more analysis and less banter. But I do understand if it's too boring for you guys.
Do push to talk so you can choose whats announced?
This game isn't my speed because I have almost no idea what's going on, and apparently you need to be super aware of everything going on and have a great memory to keep track of all the suspects.
Do what h2o delirious does and do push to talk. So can talk and banter.
I was wondering, how does the spy know he's highlighted?
i love this
amogus with guns
5:32 Every police officer ever
Flippity floppity floop
Why not Flupp?
Way better this way!!!
You owned him
This comment section is a perfect example of: no matter what you do, you won't satisfy everyone
What is a banana bread?
toby? isnt that mark zukerburg?
Interesting game
gg that is cool
Great game !
why does everyone in this game look like their from the sims xD. I actually thought it was a sims game when i clicked this. However I am not disappointed by what it actually was.
I must be the only one in the comments who enjoyed this version way more
Are they really npcs if you play as them?
Why dose this remind me of sims
omg that tree line is awful. also i like hearing the thought process
Banana bread
Despite all the critique based comments, still a great video
Yay im first also i Like your channel
NO ONE CARES IF UR FIRST MAN
@@NicholasAndKarlPRODUCTIONS something bad happened to you? I hope you get better soon! There is no need for negativity here
why are the staff creepy but everyone else looks normal
Lol You should see the old version of the game!
@@DapperEcho from what i see here i'd rather not