Customers simple mistake almost destroyed their Briggs and Stratton engine on a Snapper riding mower
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Don’t you just love it when a manufacturer of motorized vehicles mixes metric hardware with imperial hardware?
EVERYTHING I work on, I try metric and imperial on every fastener because tool manufacturer tolerances aren't so great. So it may be intended to be one thing, but have a better fit with the other. Then you switch tool brands and it flips the other way.
I think part of the issue is DeWalt sockets and wrenches. Assume the size on them is +.5 mm
I think the 8mm small bolt really was 5/16"🤔 can't seem to find my 9.5mm X 1.58 tap aka 3/8"x16pi tap hahaha
Oops. Good save. Customer got lucky. And we got new knowledge. Thank you
Whenever I encounter a battery acid spill, I mix up a spray bottle with a bicarbonate of soda solution and spray the heck out of the affected area. There could be lingering acid!
Yeah water alone just spreads it around
.99 cent bottle of club soda works
@@andyhamilton8940 It does. But I rarely have it on hand! LOL There's always a box of baking soda in the fridge. Best to you!
You betcha baking soda bath, a good rinse
Exactly! I always use baking soda and water to clean off battery trays, terminals, fenders etc that had acid spilled on them. Unless neutralized, they will continue to corrode. Rinsing them off with water won't neutralize the acid that's in the pores of the metal.
Wouldn’t have been boring at all to watch ya take it apart. I would have liked to see how you cleaned the battery acid mess up. Great content….keep ‘‘em coming.
Nice video, a battery can cause a lot of damage
Good video thank you!
Two products I use in automotive restoration to deal with stuff like this....
For corrosion: Product is called SkunkRust. It's the best there is for rust remediation he made a few videos the owner's name is Craig.
Another lubricant that just will not will not wash off ever without chemicals is called CP90. 👍👍👍
Dad was a Snapper dealer for many years. Saw this problem more than once. In the old days, Snapper had their own battery that was sealed to prevent this problem. The Snapper battery cost twice as much as a normal battery. Few people bought the Snapper battery when the original battery failed.
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install a AGM battery. They can tolerate being on their side just not upside down.
They now have SLA (Sealed Lead Acid) batteries for mowers. Those are sealed and can operate in any position.
@@joefudd Snapper has used them for years.
I bought a sealed AGM battery for mine for this exact reason. Funny thing though, that battery cost more than I paid for the mower.
need to get a garden tractor someday. Use to have RFD TV had a great Tractor show.
😂😆 Obviously one of those who DIDN'T read the owners manual OR the DECAL ON THE FRONT END about such !
Customer Note to self 💡 *Warning Remove Battery Before Tipping Up For Service*
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It looks horrendous but given what you said its hopefully just cosmetic damage and a mental reset for the owner
Nicely sorted out 😊
I still use a 50+ years old Snapper to cut grass, My father bought it new some time in the early 1970's and since he passed on in 1995 I have kept it running and working. The motor is the second changed around early 1990's. I still love it, and it still cuts grass very well!
Red Comet! Bet it doesn't have the blade pedals.
@@joehead1294 You are soooo right!
Hey Wild Bill. Bet you and your dad both did the basic work on the riding mower. Do the maintenance yearly and it will run for ages!
Can't believe how they just don't hold their value. I'm the owner of a rear engine for the last 34yrs, came with my house. Just cylinder hone and new rings, valves reground, and new paint. Now my son has it for his new house. CRAZY SIMPLE
Use baking soda to neutralize the battery acid otherwise it may continue to eat away even after a good wash job. Great video!!
Wow you did an amazing job on the clean up, discolored and pitted but the owner lucked out big time. A good wash and coating of neutralizer and ship it.
She didn't say anything about neutralizer unless I missed it, what neutralizer do you use??
You always amaze me. What's the name of your shop. You have been my favorite, for a year now.
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@@REVNUMANEWBERN always have used baking soda paste for battery acid then rinse well. Works on battery terminals too.
@@REVNUMANEWBERN you can use baking soda
@@REVNUMANEWBERN Baking soda works great.
Oh! That's terrible. I feel so badly for them. Such an innocent mistake. Glad you are out there making people aware
I wish they still made those mowers.
Best mower ever. Not up for debate.
That battery acid is a nightmare, i have seen it destroy many a fitting and fixture. 🙂🚜🐻 Bear Queensland Oztralia
Hey Greg! Hope all is well!
Thanks for the heads up on the battery removal my neighbor has a snapper rider like that and sometimes I work on it for her , this will keep me from doing any damage to it
I just junked out an old Snapper that belonged to a local youth camp. It seems someone at the camp was asked to mow the sports field...it seems that indivdual didn't check the oil before starting it...oops. Like I said it was an OLD Snapper. ;-)
Anyway all that to say, I now know what those pipes on the back were for...lol.
Cheers from New Brunswick, Canada...eh.
My first riding mower was a snapper, I got it from a local hardware store very cheaply because it was the pull start only model and nobody wanted that. It served me very well for many years👍🎩
my mower has a 15HP single. when I bought it, it was a $100.00 option to get it with a 14 HP twin. I asked if the twin was a hundred dollars and a horsepower better, and they said, just easier to pull.
My names Forrest Gump people call me Forrest Gump.
Simpler the better!!
@Ken Brown Excuse me, but would you please explain the mathematics of your statement in a way that will make logical sense? I’m kinda confused with what I’m reading. Thanks.
@@JLewis-vv5zf my mower had two engine options: the base model engine is a 15 HP single cylinder. the upgrade model is a 14 HP two cylinder. it would have cost $100.00 to get the upgraded engine.
so I asked my saw shop guy if the two cylinder engine was a better engine, and he said the only thing better is that it's easier to pull start the two cylinder engine.
Good morning Chickanic. It's so nice to see a strong self sufficient woman like you out there repairing mowers.
I always use baking soda and water to neutralize any battery acid spills, then wash it off with a lot of water. You cleaned that up really well!
Good to know. I have been thinking of getting one of those and restoring it.
I have owned two of those and worked on others. I never thought about the battery. Short work, and I was lucky. Excellent tip and video. Thank you!
Can’t help but wonder if the hair getting in the way sometimes🤣
put an AGM battery in it. more expensive but won't spill and would make it super convenient not having to pull the battery every time.
If these mowers come in for service you should recommend they replace their battery with a sealed one that can be tipped. They're more expensive but in this case, well worth it.
What is the best lawn and garden batteries you sell, and what's your best recommend batteries price wise? I have had decent luck with the Walmart batteries and there made in the USA. Have had good luck with used Interstate batteries. Thanks!
When you stand on end, look at the front frame. There is a message about standing on end.
Oh no! simple mistakes that almost ruin your CLASSIC ICONIC Snapper ...that's not good !! I'm fixin' to get on my on my old 80s model high Vac Snapper and run the shit out of it bagging the mulch for my garden I've collected about three dump truck loads and still going off my 20 acres I just put a crank top on mine and skip that battery ...
save some money 👍
Funny how the little things make such a big difference🤣 At the shop I used to work at we had the wall of shame. The best was a brake rotor with one side worn completely off with the customer explanation of "it only just started squeaking a couple days ago".
That could be avoided if customer had a lithium dirt bike battery.
Geat video!!! I have this snapper that idles smooth with the brake set or with the blade engaged, however, runnings very rough with the brake not set and the blade not engaged, what could cause that? One person told me it was the carburetor.
Sulphuric acid is really hard to dilute enough to not be corrosive. The other posters who mentioned use of baking soda or soda ash to neutralize are making good suggestions, but those springs may give away sooner rather tha later. Time will tell. Good job!
That customer must have been living right because he got really lucky!!! That could have turned out MUCH worse. Thanks for the video!!!
The control bracket just looked like surface rust to me - I wouldn't call it "destroyed", and personally wouldn't have replaced it, based on what I can see. What did I miss?
Mo money!
Looks like the perfect place for an OPTIMA battery... They can be placed in any position permanently.. For me, that's what I'd use and the rider would be stored on it's but whenever not in use.. Save space!!
You are one awesome mechanic
I love watching TH-cam channel you give a lot of good information
Thanks David!
Great Job There They Wont Do That Again
I love watching people that know what they are doing not people who fake it and hope they make it 👍👍
My Grandaddy bought a new Snapper 60 years ago. I know it was still in use (second motor) 10 years ago. It still might be cutting somewhere..... thanks for what I learn from you!
Great channel. Videos are at a good pace, we'll layed out and solid information. I appreciate that you show disassembly and include the difficult parts such as how to disconnect wring or military connectors. It is disconcerting during videos when you watch removal of all the fasteners and then they gloss over the challenging parts as a side note. One note I love my Stihl tools but found that I flooded them a lot. Your guide to shut off the choke when it burps has removed thus issue. Don't get me started on the issue of keeping your gas fresh. Thank you and good luck with your channel!!!!
Good video! If you had the sealed battery from Snapper, maximum vertical time was 2 hours. Installation of a gas shutoff valve near the tank is helpful also.
I think the only thing I would do different is change those springs. Since they are relatively cheap, but so little metal for that acid to dissolve, it doesn't hurt to put fresh ones. Especially the very corroded throttle return spring. Otherwise fantastic information on that classic.
This is from Don's small engine repair when you were showing the mower I knew exactly what the customer did because I had a customer that stored his up on end all winter long luckily all I had to do was replace the battery clean everything I had to replace the dipstick tube because acid ate a hole in it and was throwing oil out the back the throttle on the carburetor with also stuck but I got to lubed up and everything works fine the mower that you are working on that's pretty bad I thought that when you took off the flywheel it was going to be a whole in the block with acid eat through that block thanks have a great day and the rest of your week
That's fine 🙂! If you drain the oil,,,take battery out and store it on a wooden shelf with a Baby,Sitter charger,and drain gas,after putting stabel in gas tank and run for al few minutes, I do it all the time for winter storage,
My Snapper looks just like that one. It's easy and a joy to work on. So simple. I removed all the safety garbage and it solved all the electrical problems.😂
Wow!! Hope they got a new style battery that is sealed.......less mess.....less worry!! If one is available!!
SLA.... A lot of shops will not do the clean up and also insist that all effected parts be replaced... Good to see that some people still REPAIR not just REPLACE.... Good job all around...
Is it possible to add an electric starter to one and leave he pull start
Love your videos all the best to you.That was a lucky escape for that customer.Keep em rolling.
Dremel tool with wire brush attachment would of been nice to clean up that acid damage
I have that exact machine, minus the battery/ electric start.
The tip up feature is nice, especially when storing it for the winter.
I added a pipe nipple to the oil drain plug for cleaner oil changes.
Great video .
Yuck, what a mess! You sure got that cleaned up nicely. I have to do the "take a picture" step on most anything I work on these days. My 68 year old brain just doesn't want to remember how all the parts go together. 🤪
Glad to see you use impact sockets....I've seen chrome ones shatter...not cool!!!
Had a customer that decided to remove the fill cap from a you fill agm battery. It didn’t seal the second time. Acid all over his Harley
What a mess! It's not a bad idea to spritz it down with a solution of water and baking soda to neutralize the acid. When the mower gets wet the acid still has some pH to accelerate corrosion.
Thanks for reminding me of one of my past mistakes. Wish I had known about this several years ago. Never a bad thing to be reminded of mistakes and suggestions. Keep the videos coming.
I love how you say : oh no! 😂
Thanks for this video. I volunteer at a cemetery and was working on a 28 inch version…I had it standing up waiting for parts, when I saw this video I went back and some acid had already leaked. I cleaned it up and so far I'm ok 🙏🤞…Love your videos, thanks
To bad they do not make these any more with the same good engineering and quality. Great tips as usual. Thanks for the videos.
Reintroduced couple years ago, don't know about quality as B&S having issues.
Very cool. I always took the battery out before turning it up on its end. The old 1970's & 1980's version of this mower had a sealed battery and you didn't have to worry about that. The last version didn't have a sealed battery. Does Snapper still make this kind of mower or have they gone to strictly zero turns and tractors now?
Luv you and your videos! You have saved me so much money!
Whenever battery acid gets where it is not supposed to, I use baking soda to neutralize the acid before I clean it up. I even dust the top of batteries where some acid vaper has come out of the vents on the top of the battery. It keeps the acid from ruining cables. It also makes it safer to handle anything that had acid on it.
Looks like he is the market for an AGM battery if he continues to keep standing up the mower.
Bless their heart...I've done stupid things like that as well. Very good info maam. Always enjoy your videos.
Yet another job done to perfection.
Great job Bre
you know how the battery co. puts a red p;plastic cover over the + end? Well always check it anyway----yep I connected it and ----------you know!!!!!!!!! Thanks Jim
B&S engines don’t need help destroying themselves!!!! They are crap!!!!
I'm on my second Snapper 28" rear engine rider. It's just like the one in this video. The first one lasted 20 years and the one I have now is about 15 years old. I absolutely love these mowers. I'll have to keep this one going since they've stopped making them again. Easy and inexpensive to work on. I've never had my battery leak like that but I don't leave it in a standing position for more than an hour without removing the battery. I think the manual says 2 hours but I don't won't to chance it. Thanks for posting this video. Always interested in Snapper repair videos.
How many ppl are really
Gonna do this tho 😆🤣🤣🤣 I know 1 person with one otherwise i highly doubt any customer will put it up on end like that probly had no idea those bars we re for that🤘🤣
Really enjoy all your videos!
Cheers from Nova Scotia 🇨🇦
Mark
Thanks for watching!
There's a BIG FAT STICKER warning you not to leave the mower on end for very long. I have the exact same mower. This is the first video, heck even reference or picture or anything at all, that has shown the Snapper I own. Even then, mine's a 30 inch blade, not a 28. Same motor though.
Good luck, ever finding any information about the Briggs 12.5 hp engine... GOOD LUCK.
Is there a TH-cam showing the removal of a Snapper gas tank Model no. 7800920-00 Ser#2016443910? Thanks
I have a similar snapper. My engine is toast. Whats a good replacement?
another great video bre
I just bought one of these 2nd hand off gumtree. Snapper 2811511E. 11.5HP rear engine. Looks in very good condition but the deck vibrates a lot
WOW! Awesome video. I have an 2012 Snapper 12.5 HP that the plastic piece that the throttle cable hooks in has Broken . Will this part number fit this year model SR 1030? If you dont have this info handy would be able to tell where i can get this information?
Yet again good and inform video 👌👌
I've always liked the design of that particular Snapper mower, but never owned one. If Snapper received a lot of reports about this particular tilting/battery issue, they should have put a nice placard, approximately where your eye gaze would be when lifting it, that said, Remove Battery Before Tilting! Placards work really well in aviation and probably wouldn't have added more than $0.25 to the cost of manufacture.
TH-cam recently suggested your channel. Didn’t realize you’re also in central Arkansas until I watched an older video. I like to follow locals.
I’d like to visit your business sometime..
We used to have one of these Snappers in the 70s. Great mower. Should have kept it. Letting the battery puke its guts out onto the engine wasn't too bright.
Things you never want to hear from your dentist, doctor or small engine repair CHICK... Oh No!
As always great video young lady!! Had a couple of snappers over the years great mowers i almost did that one time just caught it in time. What would cause my Husqvarna yth2448 to run hot when kicking pto in mowing for like 10 minutes? Thanks for sharing be safe have fun enjoy
Is good to have CRC battery acid cleaner around to neutralize the acid. Oh and by the way having a serviceable battery on any mower is asking for trouble. Especially one that tips up to work on.
Nice universal blood pants Snapper 👹🙏🩲☮️🔓
Ooops! ... No One plans to Work on Mower for days, but my luck it'd be longer. ...
would a 'Kind' *Reminder Notice* on Battery cover be of help? 8 |
There's warnings on the mower to remove battery if it's going to be upright longer than 2 hours. I don't remove mine every time but I work quickly and have a "sealed" battery. So far, so good. 2010 model still going strong.
I wish I was close to you. You'd have my 1990 Snapper in a minute.
You can expect this kind of problem to occur when you don't read the manual. Reading is free. Not reading can cost you. Chickanic, can I cover the shop for you when making these videos?
When I moved, in 2011, from Seattle to Kentucky and a large lawn, I purchased a used Craftsman 2000, V-Twin Rider mower. I hadn't really done any small engine work but I have an aptitude for it.
One cylinder on the engine kept bending pushrods, which would then fall out of the rocker arms. I eventually figured out that the valves were stuck and I had to pound them in with a hammer to reduce pressure and then I would straighten the push rod on an anvil with a hammer as well. And that would get me through a half a yard of mowing before I had to do it again. I got pretty proficient at it.
Then one day I'd searched the internet regarding why the valves would get stuck and it said it may be overheating. Well, I took the shroud off the whole engine and a mouse or bird had built a nest right against the engine and all the fins were coated in a solid cake of mud. I cleaned all that out, and it worked great ever since. I did buy some nice new push rods from Amazon so I was starting fresh.
That was about 6 years ago and now I have a 60 inch bad boy zero turn and I mow about 9 acres of lawn. Sadly, I'm now paranoid about something building a nest next to my cylinders and actually find myself checking for that every now and then. I have not found anything yet though. I keep it in my shop building when it's not being used, so the risk is probably low. However, I prefer to store it in my barn to give me more room in my shop. But paranoia keeps me from that.
Is there any reason one would have to use a lead acid battery in an application like that mower? Could you go to something like an AGM where you could tilt it without risk of spills and acid corrosion damage? Just a thought. Great video!👍🏼
i wonder same thing
Yeah you could do that. The only thing is I would get a decent trickle charger for AGM batteries and put it on the battery when not in use because the voltage regulator is going to be setup for a wet cell battery. Yes it will still charge it but I think agm batteries need a little more to get them to full 100% charge than what the stock regulator gives you. I think they cut somewhere around 85 to 90% charge on an agm battery. So again a nice battery tender trickle charger designed to charge agm batteries would allow you to get maximum life and longevity out of an AGM battery Expeacially since their more expensive than a simple wet cell. In my opinion it would be worth investing in a good trickle charger for it. So you get as high a return as you possibly can. But they're both Lead Acid batteries with sulfuric acid it's just that an agm battery has the acid absorbed into a sorta fiberglass matting material. Which improves on some of the weaknesses of a regular wet cell battery. It being a magneto style charger on the mower your never going to see voltages get too high or anything like that. They just don't have the capacity to do that. So your voltages will be safe it's just the length of charge is the issue on an agm battery.
Reading and complying with the Instruction manual, specifically the part about removing the battery before tilting the machine up on its hind legs is beyond the average American Users comprehension as it requires basic English language proficiency....
Hi. I have a question about the electric part what you charge on it machine. Please let me know if you have any information of model number or part number... Thank you...
I don't think I've ever met anyone dumb enough to think you can turn ANY kind of internal combustion machine upside down without issues; gas running out, electrolyte running out...
Other than coil it ain’t gonna mess that thing up lmao it’s not in the fuel or oil . Spray it down with pb blaster or w/d and run it
Love them snapper mowers
One slow enough you could get off
Walk by it mowing 2 they almost
Billy goat they could climb a mountain
I've had alot of them
I'm on my daughter's TH-cam account. If you stand a Snapper RER on end you supposedly can leave the battery in place as long as it isn't for more than two hours. Even when I sharpen the blade on mine, it's back down on all four wheels after I remove the blade.