Random tip to anyone grinding adept weapons. My advice is to go into the normal first, craft 2 patterns of any weapon then go into master. That way you can get up to 3 perks perk column instead of 2 which increases the chances for a god roll and since it’s adept you can swap out the barrel and mag perks. As long as you get the two perks you want plus the masterwork you want, the barrel can be whatever
@@CanonicalBassPlayer having patterns crafted increases your chance to have extra perks on the weapons that drop! the triumph works the same way it did in salvations edge
There is another method if eager edge fails on Master. Everyone but the relic holder dies before starting the encounter. Then the relic holder starts the encounter and hides on the same spot shown in the video. When the oracle mechanic fails, everyone can respawn and go to the 1st spot to dps. You put a well while the relic holder takes down the shield. Went back and forth of these 2 methods on Master if the relic holder failed to eager edge correctly.
Quick note on that cleansing method, if five players jump off the cliff and die they can respawn during the encounter. So the relic holder only needs to hide and cleanse and at light fading timer 1:57-1:56 dps respawns sets up and relic drops shield. Its not super hard.
Kinetic Tremors + OFA is probably a bit more reliable than Elemental Honing if you're not running Prismatic. OFA is +35% Damage, which EH requires all 5x Elements to proc.
It was my first raid weapon back in D1 😫🙏 Shoutout to the team of randos that 5-manned atheon whilst I went out of bounds to go to a superbowl party fr
You don't need a mic to farm normal or master mode of Templar. I don't have issues of interacting with people but I did farm all weekend for adept FB and all red boarders from Templar and not only did everyone not use mics but all the posts were saying "mic not required". So, hope in and farm the next time this raid rolls around as a weekly raid.
I got a Explosive + Keep Away/Precision Instrument Fatebringer Timelost and a Threat Detector + Slideshot/Opening Shot Found Verdict Timelost with a Handling MW Day 1! Really enjoying both rolls so far!
@AmeButCool True. I just hope lord of wolves doesn’t get patched until i get home from work, but knowing bungo, they’ll probably patch the gun by the time im done typing this🥲
I always find it weird that people always talk about the damage boost from frenzy only being 15 percent but frenzy also increases reload speed so you have less down time for reloading I’ll take a smaller damage boost for a better reload speed all day
I did the farm last night and got the roll I wanted. Reload MW, Explosive Payload, Firefly. That was the roll I loved on my old one and I still love it
Do the eager edge to the left then it puts the flag all the way down litterly next to the relic itself. That way you could even swap weapons b4 rallying but really LoW is the best option even over heavy weapons lol.
No they can’t. However as someone who already grind a new adept weapon, my advice is to go into the normal, craft 2 patterns of any weapon then go into master. That way you can get up to 3 perks for column and since it’s adept you can swap out the barrel and mag perks.
No. Also vogs adepts work with the old adept system in mind, meaning weapons are specific to encounters and you’ll only ever get that weapon in said encounter when you do the challenge on master. Only mentioning it cus salvations edge (and Crota maybe?) worked on the knockout system, meaning it’ll just give you whatever you don’t have til you have em all, then random
@@FrostReach66imo crafteds are just better pve wise (SE sword being the exception) the ability to swap any perk and create the exact weapon you want at any time is so much better then having the double or triple perks. Adept mods are useless for pve except impact for swords. They’re just a flex at this point. What made shinies so worth in into the light for example was they weren’t crafted, meaning if you had extra perks it was actually beneficial
Redirection, in 3rd column of Corrective Measure, with One for All could be nice damage without needing any kills. Plus, who doesn't like double damage perks.
kid named lfg: none of my friends play d2 but it's still very easy to find people to do this, you don't even need a mic for just farming this encounter specifically
Might I also recommend kinetic tremors and magnificent howl. I got one with tac mag and extended barrel time lost and it's a lot of fun! Getting chained headshots and even if you don't kill them with the headshots but it makes the hand cannon even stronger and then causes the target to proc kinetic tremors makes even cleaning up easier. Plus if you run into a yellow bar just either have a bunch of magnificent howl and melt them down a bunch, but you also have tremors to do even more damage. It's a fun roll for me and would highly recommend it!
Can we get a guide for best VoG rolls/crafted perks. I think many of us especially want to know what perks we should go for on found verdict and would like to see numbers
A very helpful thing to note about farming Templar on Master: Timelost weapons are guaranteed to have at least 2 perks in columns 3 and 4 and one of those perks in each is a set perk. In the case of Fatebringer you’re guaranteed to have Explosive Payload and Firefly. This means that getting a roll combo that needs Explosive Payload goes from a 1/49 to a 1/7
Is elemental honing really that good? The damage buff at max stacks is only an extra 5% compared to one for all, which is only a 3.7% increase in overall damage. For that tiny bump in damage, you are exchanging one for all’s dummy easy, build-agnostic activation requirement for one that is far more demanding in both your build and gameplay. You need to dedicate a significant amount of build real estate just to consistently access all 5 damage types, and you need to go out of your way to burn ammo and abilities every 20 seconds just so your primary weapon can do ad clear 3.7% more effectively than a weapon with one for all.
or just have 5 dpsers jump off the map after rallying, then let the relic guy cleanse, after ritual of negation goes off, you can respawn and prepare to start DPS
@bonjouritsready counter counter counter point (this is getting out of hand, now there are three of them lol), crafting the roll is better than farming the roll lol
The 40% for honing is nice but… it’s just generally too much work to set up, that my natural instincts won’t be doing it. Still dig my old explosive, firefly FB. Simple. Stuff goes boom, reload fast, yay!
A VoG encounter farming guide would be pretty nice. They're all fairly easy to get through, but we've gotten a lot of new things since. Plus, not blaming anyone, not many really pop up and go "this is the better/consistent DPS strategy" after the first round of guides are out
Can explosive payload trigger precision instrument ? Basically, after your first bullet, it does 2 shots of damage, so then your second bullet is on 3rd PI damage and your third bullet is on 5th PI damage ?
Just run two tailed fox, and a strand and stasis melee or grenade. Elemental honing 40% dmg increase in 2 seconds. Shoot rocket melee grenade then boom easy
There’s zero reason to farm any of the encounters before getting the patterns unlocked unless you just like extra grinding for zero reason. If you wait and get all the patterns unlocked almost every adept you get on master will have triple perks in each column
I could care less about another hand cannon. That’s not the farm for me. But…. Like…. Are you not going to recommend the titans to use no back up plans with lord of wolves? 👀
I paid to play for any raid regardless if I’m good at flawless raids or do the most damage. This way nobody kicks me as soon as I join or ask for help. Got my Fatebringer god roll.
I've been joining a lot of LFG's who got the templar checkpoint, but when we zone in, it puts us after templar - is bungie trying to fix this? EDIT: going to orbit and back fixed this, I think it has to do with players loading into the encounter
only Timelost Fatebringer drops on Master Templar, plus normal drops which can be normal Fatebringer, Vision of Confluence or Corrective Measure. so those three weapons can drop red borders.
Ok really weird but I was just on vog to get the solo chest on my titan and until yesterday for like an hour I was not on whatsoever but mysteriously i had the normal mode template checkpoint and I've never done the raid in months
Going live shortly on the stream channel, final day of contest dungeon prep. Gonna be giving away some OSMUIM HEIR emblems 👍
Luckbot9 is a SCAM, queues you once then doesn't work until you Vip PAY queue. Just use lfg.
I think one dark horse roll you're clearly missing is Osmosis/Elemental Honing.
Random tip to anyone grinding adept weapons. My advice is to go into the normal first, craft 2 patterns of any weapon then go into master. That way you can get up to 3 perks perk column instead of 2 which increases the chances for a god roll and since it’s adept you can swap out the barrel and mag perks. As long as you get the two perks you want plus the masterwork you want, the barrel can be whatever
What does "craft 2 patterns of any weapon" mean? Doesnt make sense
@@arunjakohave two of the patterns per weapon unlocked.
Craft 2 weapons, like get a crafted Fatebringer or crafted shotgun or whatever you want. It doesn’t matter which one
did master on reset and got multiple weapons with 3 perk columns. what you're saying is just not true
@@CanonicalBassPlayer having patterns crafted increases your chance to have extra perks on the weapons that drop! the triumph works the same way it did in salvations edge
There is another method if eager edge fails on Master. Everyone but the relic holder dies before starting the encounter. Then the relic holder starts the encounter and hides on the same spot shown in the video. When the oracle mechanic fails, everyone can respawn and go to the 1st spot to dps. You put a well while the relic holder takes down the shield. Went back and forth of these 2 methods on Master if the relic holder failed to eager edge correctly.
Easy mode method
Yes!!! That's how it's done!
Yea, neither is hard but I always just do the 5 die before encounter starts
This was always the strat we ran
Quick note on that cleansing method, if five players jump off the cliff and die they can respawn during the encounter. So the relic holder only needs to hide and cleanse and at light fading timer 1:57-1:56 dps respawns sets up and relic drops shield. Its not super hard.
Kinetic Tremors + OFA is probably a bit more reliable than Elemental Honing if you're not running Prismatic. OFA is +35% Damage, which EH requires all 5x Elements to proc.
One for all my beloved
I miss having the auto rifle from this raid. The day I got that auto was the day I was able to finish my PvP part of the thorn quest in D1.
Atheon's Epilogue my beloved
Same here! One of my friends was mad he couldn’t get the Mythoclast to drop. I was mad about not having the Epilogue to help out with the Thorn quest
Same bro, was a hunter main back then and that was a struggle
It was my first raid weapon back in D1 😫🙏
Shoutout to the team of randos that 5-manned atheon whilst I went out of bounds to go to a superbowl party fr
Maaan all the missin weapons were the hitters fashoo😩
Social anxiety be damned. I might just try to do it.
You defo should, so long as everyone knows what to do (which isn’t much), coms aren’t necessary.
Go for it brother
You don't even need to talk, just find a group and do damage. Best to do it before lord of wolves inevitably gets nerfed
You don't need a mic to farm normal or master mode of Templar.
I don't have issues of interacting with people but I did farm all weekend for adept FB and all red boarders from Templar and not only did everyone not use mics but all the posts were saying "mic not required".
So, hope in and farm the next time this raid rolls around as a weekly raid.
the P key as your interact button is diabolical lmao
I got a Explosive + Keep Away/Precision Instrument Fatebringer Timelost and a Threat Detector + Slideshot/Opening Shot Found Verdict Timelost with a Handling MW Day 1! Really enjoying both rolls so far!
Adept fatebringer with opening shot and magnificent howl boosted goes absolutely crazy. 3 taps super easy and you can do it from crazy far. Insane
Just want to say thanks for this. Actually got out there on LFG and found someone to play with and got a ton of good rolls.
Incandescent/Explosive on Vision sounds fun as hell
That gun made me so mad. Incandescent, heal clip, and firefly all in the same column. Ass.
@@FlashesSoccer011 firefly is in the other column
@SilenceXZxd you right. I'm thinking of rewind rounds
Rewind and firefly is fun too
@@FlashesSoccer011 Heal Clip isn't a great pick for this scout
You upload this RIGHT AS I CLOCK INTO WORK. To be fair I do live an hour away from work…
Ya got until next tues, it’s farmable for the week
Hopefully they don’t patch this 3 hours later like they did the golgorath maze yesterday.
@AmeButCool True. I just hope lord of wolves doesn’t get patched until i get home from work, but knowing bungo, they’ll probably patch the gun by the time im done typing this🥲
Ok
@@Elysian-III ok
I always find it weird that people always talk about the damage boost from frenzy only being 15 percent but frenzy also increases reload speed so you have less down time for reloading I’ll take a smaller damage boost for a better reload speed all day
good for you
Also handling
One for all is 35% for 11s its way better u can just focus reload stats and mods.
You can also have all but relic holder jump off the map and die, wait until negation then respawn right when shield gets broken
I got incandescent and paracausal affinity on vision. Very fun actually. Any light based kill, vision included, gives a 20% damage buff
kinetic tremors and firefly on my crafted fatebringer is doing some solid work
Don't forget frenzy also gives you 100 handling and 100 reload.
Good luck on your double glove drop, boys
0:39 "Full vog farming guide - just do encounters. End of guide.
Oh, thanks!
🐓🍭
Got a fatebringer with opening shot and keep away along with eye of the storm, precision instrument and magnificent howl
I did the farm last night and got the roll I wanted. Reload MW, Explosive Payload, Firefly. That was the roll I loved on my old one and I still love it
I like how they changed the fire rate on some of the weapons.
Do the eager edge to the left then it puts the flag all the way down litterly next to the relic itself. That way you could even swap weapons b4 rallying but really LoW is the best option even over heavy weapons lol.
Timelost weapons can drop red borders, yes? Just realized I sound like Variks
No they can’t. However as someone who already grind a new adept weapon, my advice is to go into the normal, craft 2 patterns of any weapon then go into master. That way you can get up to 3 perks for column and since it’s adept you can swap out the barrel and mag perks.
@ that was going to be my plan. I want the crafted rolls as backup because I know how absolutely abysmal my RNG is
No. Also vogs adepts work with the old adept system in mind, meaning weapons are specific to encounters and you’ll only ever get that weapon in said encounter when you do the challenge on master. Only mentioning it cus salvations edge (and Crota maybe?) worked on the knockout system, meaning it’ll just give you whatever you don’t have til you have em all, then random
@@FrostReach66imo crafteds are just better pve wise (SE sword being the exception) the ability to swap any perk and create the exact weapon you want at any time is so much better then having the double or triple perks. Adept mods are useless for pve except impact for swords. They’re just a flex at this point. What made shinies so worth in into the light for example was they weren’t crafted, meaning if you had extra perks it was actually beneficial
@@realnoble676 knockout system has existed since Vow, but I know what you mean. I grinded the sh** out of VOG for those original timelost rolls
LoW went from terrorizing players to terrorizing raid bosses and I'm all for it
Redirection, in 3rd column of Corrective Measure, with One for All could be nice damage without needing any kills. Plus, who doesn't like double damage perks.
"Do this now"
Me: Has nobody to do this with.
Lfg is a thing
LFG KWTD
kid named lfg:
none of my friends play d2 but it's still very easy to find people to do this, you don't even need a mic for just farming this encounter specifically
here the attention you ordered: 📦
mfw fireteam finder was added explicitly for this reason
Rewind and Mag Howl is great. You can build stacks better imo
Might I also recommend kinetic tremors and magnificent howl. I got one with tac mag and extended barrel time lost and it's a lot of fun! Getting chained headshots and even if you don't kill them with the headshots but it makes the hand cannon even stronger and then causes the target to proc kinetic tremors makes even cleaning up easier. Plus if you run into a yellow bar just either have a bunch of magnificent howl and melt them down a bunch, but you also have tremors to do even more damage. It's a fun roll for me and would highly recommend it!
Activated Osmosis will proc Elemental Honing btw.
Man giving away Aztecross' secrets
When swording to insta pop use a vortex frame. Gets the flag right next to the relic
0:52 Lord of Wolves - I always come back in some some form.
Full guide for sure
firefly ofa on corrective honestly looks pretty fun
All of this will be fun for another 2 weeks, then the burnout sets in. Inevitable
Thanks dude
I saw that thumbnail and just came to say; Don't tell me what to do! 😆
My Godroll Fatebringer [ Timelost ] is Explodsiv and Firefly
Can we get a guide for best VoG rolls/crafted perks. I think many of us especially want to know what perks we should go for on found verdict and would like to see numbers
A very helpful thing to note about farming Templar on Master: Timelost weapons are guaranteed to have at least 2 perks in columns 3 and 4 and one of those perks in each is a set perk. In the case of Fatebringer you’re guaranteed to have Explosive Payload and Firefly. This means that getting a roll combo that needs Explosive Payload goes from a 1/49 to a 1/7
That's just not the case anymore. Feel free to experience it yourself.
Not anymore. Took me like 10 runs for Explosive/Firefly
This literally isn't the case anymore and is literally shown in the video to not be the case. 1:06
The new timelost versions do not guarantee perks
Not anymore
Wouldn't having another warlock have song of flame super active make it even quicker? Extra scorchy scorch on everyone's lord of wolves.
Bring back Praetorian Foil 😭
Got demoralize on the new scout can confirm really good pve perk.
Is elemental honing really that good? The damage buff at max stacks is only an extra 5% compared to one for all, which is only a 3.7% increase in overall damage. For that tiny bump in damage, you are exchanging one for all’s dummy easy, build-agnostic activation requirement for one that is far more demanding in both your build and gameplay. You need to dedicate a significant amount of build real estate just to consistently access all 5 damage types, and you need to go out of your way to burn ammo and abilities every 20 seconds just so your primary weapon can do ad clear 3.7% more effectively than a weapon with one for all.
Wait could you possibly abuse elemental honing with hardlight by switching the gun's elements?
What happened to the method with everybody besides the relic holder just jump of the edge before starting the encounter and then respawning after ?
I love seeing weapons I will never get as a person that plays solo 99.9% of time lol
Does Kinetic tremors also get the damage buff from One for all? One for all is 35% dmg and you don't have to hit targets with different elements.
" if you do it correctly should look like this - gets a wave defense phone game ad"
I only care about a adept fatebringer. Hopefully I'll be able to farm the red borders for it tomorrow night
or just have 5 dpsers jump off the map after rallying, then let the relic guy cleanse, after ritual of negation goes off, you can respawn and prepare to start DPS
Kind of suprised you didn't mention that Vision of Confluence has Outlaw in the third column, which would pair pretty good with Firefly
Its not necessary
Rewind + Explosive makes it so you never have to reload on vision of confluence
You can farm atheon for Vex?
Yeah hold on let me get my frie….. oh wait
Definitely ain't ever happening with me.
Good luck with the farms for all going for it.
Why? Just why is magnificent howl getting slapped on other handcannons 😭
Counter point to the adept argument. Normal gives you red borders.
Counter counter point, enhanced adepts are still better than crafted and you can still change the barrel/stocks on adepts to tailor it.
@bonjouritsready counter counter counter point (this is getting out of hand, now there are three of them lol), crafting the roll is better than farming the roll lol
I'd be interested to try demoralize and firefly.....
The 40% for honing is nice but… it’s just generally too much work to set up, that my natural instincts won’t be doing it. Still dig my old explosive, firefly FB. Simple. Stuff goes boom, reload fast, yay!
Honestly for vision im going for incan/explosive. Zaoulis bane but at range
Now my issue is just finding a group to do this with
You and me both, I’ll be looking when I get online later though
Just LFG and tell people you want to farm Templar, you'll get 100 hits
really not that hard, people love to farm stuff like this on lfg trust me
@@dankerbell just done it. So easy
A VoG encounter farming guide would be pretty nice.
They're all fairly easy to get through, but we've gotten a lot of new things since.
Plus, not blaming anyone, not many really pop up and go "this is the better/consistent DPS strategy" after the first round of guides are out
Can explosive payload trigger precision instrument ? Basically, after your first bullet, it does 2 shots of damage, so then your second bullet is on 3rd PI damage and your third bullet is on 5th PI damage ?
4:47 What's that flaming gun there left guardian is holding?
Lord of wolves I believe
Templar challenge doesn't drop any other weapon then fatebringer just to fix that misinformation about it dropping corrective and vision.
Just run two tailed fox, and a strand and stasis melee or grenade. Elemental honing 40% dmg increase in 2 seconds. Shoot rocket melee grenade then boom easy
IF ONLY I FOUND A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT KNEW HOW TO DO THE F ENCOUNTER
This is all cool, if I can actually get into a lobby. To many guys in the Tower, and joining fireteam always takes forever.
How did he not mention the Vision scout with Incandescent & Explosive Rounds… it’s a beast in everything but Grandmasters 😅
If someone has never done the raid before do they still get the weapons or no?
Imagine if fate bringer had incandescent and firefly combo missed opportunity
Farming vault of glass with lord of wolves? In 2025? I’m crying tears of joy
The only issue is the relic not spawning to start the encounter sometimes. Not sure what to do to solve the issue
There’s zero reason to farm any of the encounters before getting the patterns unlocked unless you just like extra grinding for zero reason. If you wait and get all the patterns unlocked almost every adept you get on master will have triple perks in each column
I could care less about another hand cannon. That’s not the farm for me. But…. Like…. Are you not going to recommend the titans to use no back up plans with lord of wolves? 👀
I dont have space in my vault to farm adept rolls. I just want red borders but they refuse to drop
Would hard light work to get 3 diff damage types in pvp?
Problem is the community sucks. I've been trying on lfg and fireteam finder and no luck. It used to be helpful, now it's all kwtd or gtfo.
What you play on?
I'm on PS5
I paid to play for any raid regardless if I’m good at flawless raids or do the most damage. This way nobody kicks me as soon as I join or ask for help. Got my Fatebringer god roll.
I wish* fatebringer had a little better of a perk pool like don’t get me wrong it’s good but midnight coup is still better
I've been joining a lot of LFG's who got the templar checkpoint, but when we zone in, it puts us after templar - is bungie trying to fix this?
EDIT: going to orbit and back fixed this, I think it has to do with players loading into the encounter
Should I try lfg ? My language isn’t very good so I don’t know if I should
Might have to go for an Incan/Explosive Vision.
just got two drop from normal for the adept fatebringer lool
Does *only* fatebringer drop on master Templar, or can we get other red boarders?
only Timelost Fatebringer drops on Master Templar, plus normal drops which can be normal Fatebringer, Vision of Confluence or Corrective Measure. so those three weapons can drop red borders.
@adhirg awesome, thanks!
@@seanfisher7707 you are welcome bro
Can red borders drop from Master?
The amount of gatekeeping going on I can’t even get in the raid for a normal run
people act like Templar is a damage challenge after almost 4 years 💀
Can u solo practice this?
LFG bout to be Lit
Another method is everybody except the relic holder clears and wait and set timer to revive drop the well blow thy load 😂
What are they fixing? Just the bugged exotics?
So I'm getting explosive payload frenzy fatebringer and leaving it
Me who's not gonna farm this because I already got my Timelost Fatebringer. The gosh damn original (for D2 anyway). LOL
Is this method with Lord of Wolves patched or still works?
We just finished farming templar on master with LoW and it def still works. Highest power level in our group was 2019
I’ll farm master once I get all the patterns so I can get guaranteed 3 perks per column
Can get it without 😅 it's just higher chance with red borders complete
Ok really weird but I was just on vog to get the solo chest on my titan and until yesterday for like an hour I was not on whatsoever but mysteriously i had the normal mode template checkpoint and I've never done the raid in months
VoG checkpoints don't reset for whatever reason