You read my mind about it. Either I'm way too jaded, or I have been around too many entitled idiots because I didn't believe Karen changed for an instant.
With an addiction you have to want to stop for yourself not for someone else.Unless you are ready to quit it don't matter how much help you get it won't work.
Right so true a 💯 percent I so agree I m glad I quite gambling for 5 6 years now I only gambled 5 6 months ago one time at the bar but other wise I really don't gamble any more
The only person who can truly help an addict is the addict themselves. At a certain point, family and friends must disconnect to protect themselves. Love does not conquer all.
My sister is an alcoholic since 30 years, she was 6 times in rehabilitation, the last was December 22 until February 23, she started after a few days drinking again! I applied for adult social services as a last resort, (i was only skin and bones because of all the worries and stress)now she lives in a social institution with social care. The family judge also visited her 2 times, she is not fit to stay by herself... alcoholic dementia, fatty liver disease, and all kind of illnesses. It is sad, but we as family and her son have tried everything.
I can't remember the name of the author, but many years ago, I read a book re black holes leading to wormholes and those lead to white holes and then ... one's in another universe.
She was stealing from the family. She has an issue and she needs to work on it. The family can try to help her but unless she wants help it ain’t gonna happen and if the sister-in-law knew OP knew about this dark secret you would think she’d be nicer to OP but I’m glad it is out in the open
I feel so sorry for Karen. Addiction changes your personality and makes you selfish and destructive. Unfortunately, you cannot light yourself on fire to save someone from their addictive personality if they refuse help and are unwilling to change.
She needs her loyalty to be with her husband , The sister did what she knew she was gonna do and she found out about it no question go with your gut and your husband
The family could not have done anything else. The addict has to be willing to accept their problem and WANT to change. They have to do it for themselves. This is an example of "tough love".
She will not begin to change until she hits rock bottom if then. No more help until then ,and then very careful help where she can't take advantage anymore.
It is so hard to go through this as a family. Been there done that. It breaks your heart to have to cut off family, but sometimes it's the only thing you can do to help them see the road they're on.
Sometimes they have to hit rock bottom several times before the desire to change is strong enough. I had a BIL that was in and out of rehab and AA several times. Didn't help! When they were cleaning out his room at the nursing home he ended up in, they found empty and full bottles of booze under his bed! He wasn't ever able to break free of his addiction that eventually contributed to his death. (Emphysema and liver disease.) People PLEASE don't drink and/or smoke. IT WILL KILL YOU!
Damn keeping a secret tell everyone that she has a gambling addiction and she's been stealing money from the family account. It's crazy how she wants to be mean but quickly forgets that she stole money from the family inheritance account. I would've sang like a canary and told them that they need to block all the access from the sister. Then I would've left and went home
Less than 10% of addicts get cleaned up. They can acknowledge their addiction and say the right things but they carry on in their ways to oblivion. OP and the rest of the family did all they could. Karen is heading down.
The addict must hit total bottom to get the message they have a problem. Bailing the addict out of jail or financially is only prolonging the inevitable "bottom". Sadly- some addicts never get the message or admit they have a problem.....
The one thing I know about addiction is that it is a daily struggle for the person with the addiction. As alcoholics go to AA meetings, there are meetings for Gamblers. Since she also drinks, these meetings may meet both addictions
They need to make her learn the consequences of her actions stop enabling her spoiled entitled self. If not you're gonna have to bail her out for the rest of her life
Blow her cover! You tried to help her. She tried to hurt you. She would have burned you behind your back. You also have a husband problem is he doesn't stick up for you. She NEEDED INPATIENT care. Sober house, drug testing, etc. THE COURT might provide treatment since she is in legal trouble bc of addiction
THAT DOES NOT WORK. Unless the person is willing to work on it themselves it is just a waste of time and effort as they will immediately return to their addiction once released.
Please OP wasn’t trying to be nice, she never was. Karen more than likely knew that OP wasn’t being genuine. That being said Karen has to accept she has a problem until then nothing will happen.
Family members did what they could to help her out but two months later she off the wagon. Playing the con artist game once again didn’t last long she got caught with her lies again. Tough love from the family was the last straw to kick her out in the streets to deal with her own addictions.
In a way I wish that they would have put her in rehab. Maybe that would’ve helped. I say that because you can’t leave the building until the time is over which is usually 90 days. Sometimes you can check yourself out. But you have to want to be healed in order to survive
Because of doctor patient confidentiality the Therapist is not allowed to tell OP anything about Karen?! 🤔 Or karen could sue him and he could lose his license to practice ! Were they really all that naive to give karen money instead of just paying therapist ?! 😂
I swear this first story OP is a busy body. She all in this family business. Where is her family? Handle the wrong way. One sided story. OP trying to paint herself a victim. It wasn’t your place to tell it wasn’t her money.
Addicts can only be helped when they want to be helped by seeing their need for the help. Karen did not believe that anything was wrong with her. Hopefully in time Karen will see a need to get help.
And send them back again and again. An addict can get sober without rehab they just have to want it enough. Will have 3 years next month. Did it through zoom meetings because rehabs were closed. I wanted soberity enough to fight for it.
Sounds like SIL didn't think op was good enough for her brother and therefore hated op, even though there was no reason. Plus thinks that op is taking her brother away from her. Not surprised that she didn't take well to op talking back to her. Nor am I surprised that she tried to act dumb about the transactions though her face said everything and tried to get mad at op. Despite op being nice to her she still tried to get op casted out. She didn't think op would expose her but how wrong she was. It's on her that her family now knows that she's been stealing from the inheritance, all because she wanted op out of the picture for no reason other than greed and attention seeking. Update, not surprised that despite the family being upset with her she refuses responsibility and doesn't think it's serious. SIL is most definitely a Karen. Karens don't want to change because they think they know better and their logic is completely screwed up. Hence why she dismisses the evidence and refuses to take it seriously. Yep, there's the tantrum when a Karen is denied what they want. Plus the insane Karen logic with how she took Op's advice to see professional help and think she's above everyone. Update 2, Why am I not surprised that she called her brother and spun a lie that the cops kidnapped her and took her to jail while she was just having a good time, classic lying Karen. And there's the truth from the cops about what really happened. Not surprised that she still insulted the cops then tried to play the innocent girl act with her brother. Update 3, some Karens do learn after facing consequences and hopefully she did. Not surprised that she didn't like the "scrutiny" though from her family. Though not surprised that she still acted entitled like a Karen through her getting help. Update 4, then again some Karens don't learn and go back to their old ways. Not surprised that she kept lying about being sober and seeing the therapist. Of course she tried to lie when confronted til evidence was shown. I don't feel pity for Karen as she's proved that she hasn't learned and only cares about herself. She only begged for another chance because of money and didn't want to be homeless. It's on her that's she's homeless and has no family.
My husbands oldest sister hated me we married at 20 and over the years out of his sight she would say I don't know what my brother sees in you, he bought me a dishwasher her reply you don't deserve a dishwasher as much as I do. A few years later we went no contact after years of abuse toward me that I kept from my husband.
If its private pay the therapist can disclose that the sessions ended. A therapist cant charge when the client stops treatment. And when its private pay, one can ask if the client ending treatment was because of the client or therapists actions.
Married to a drug and alcoholic for 30 years thought I could save him. Didn't realize he needed to help himself. He died of a massive heart attack. Can't help someone who doesn't want the help. I still miss him but I don't miss the chaos.
Sometimes, family cannot facilitate change. The person has to want to be sober. My brother went through every program in the state for drinking and for gambling. My mother hovering and saying how it was awful that he had to be in treatment with drug addicted people. Her poor baby boy. He died just a week before his 60th birthday, Blood alcohol 3 x the legal limit, drugs in his system and IOU’s to people who tried to take my parents home. He had told everyone who would listen that my parents house was really his, and that he let them live there. He died on mom’s living room floor before EMS arrived. All the money, support, cars, apartments, treatment, debts, bonds that my parents took care of made no difference in the end. My sister and I were afraid of him as we got older, he was a terrible brother.
Drunk Gambler - Already knew from beginning she wouldn't change. Not cuz the story lead into it but an alarm clock right behind sin going crazy. In my crazy conclusions is I took it as alarm bells going off for lying.
So your husband Allowed other people in his family to treat his wife like dirt ?! 🤔 You cannot help an addict unless they really want to help. It is up to them and they have to really want it. There is such thing as doctor patient confidentiality which means therapist is not allowed to tell you anything about karen !! Could be sued and lose their License to practice!
Few indeed are the addicts who can stop and not have a period of regression, the family did fail her in this regard. They should have gotten some help themselves on how to handle an addict to maximize their own effect on the addict. Also I suspect her animosity against the OP was in fact her responding to her own conscience about her actions which she knew were wrong. So often the people who are accusing others of underhanded actions are the ones who are in fact doing the same. But by doing so she did set up OP to be her worst critic and made it much harder for OP to be helpful but again, self destructive people often strike the hardest against those they see as being the ones most likely to be able to help them. Also they failed to get the message out to the friends that they should not take the addict into situations where her resolve would fail. It did not escape my attention that she was out drinking with "friends" which makes me suspect her "friends" led her back into her addiction because they share that addiction. I say this not to judge OP and the rest of the family but to encourage them that there's still hope, only it's going to take more work.
She wanted grocery money for greens…as in a pool table and the betting field of a roulette wheel… Cutting Karen off was the right thing to do - this situation called for one dollar steak ie tough love. She was given the opportunity to turn her life around - yet Karen bit the hands the helped her. She has hit rock bottom - and will continue to dig until she realizes there’s no to go but up!
Please learn how to pronounce "niceties" (timeline 5.24) properly as also "disproved" (23.28 timeline) as opposed to the disapproved you stated. Two very different meanings.
Alcoholism and Addiction are the disease of the mind, body, and spirit. It takes more than treatment and counseling to truly overcome such matters. Yes, treatment is needed sometimes because of the withdrawal and detoxification processes. However, it's a matter of the heart. Matter of the heart as in spiritual aspects. Spiritual Aspects if not included in such matters causes treatment centers to seem inept and non-beneficial. It also causes the non-diseased individuals to become sickened too. Especially when the non-alcoholic and non-addict individuals become enablers and part of the spin wheel of: rescuer, persecutor, and victim. All of that has to stop!
Yes they should have called the police immediately and had her arrested for embezzlement and theft and put her in prison and they wouldn't have to deal with this anymore and then by the time she got all these me be straight or she could be worse than she is now but it wouldn't be their problem because I would get a restraining order to keep her away from them
I’ve had many relatives go through addiction. All the help in the world was given to them. Some died a horrible lonely death surrounded by their addictions. I even lost an entire piece of my family to this (father,mother and son who was my only cousin close to my age). I was the one to get the call at 4 am telling me (I was a young teen) that my older cousin wrapped himself around a guardrail doing over 100 mph. I was also there to identify the body( why !). I’ve had gamblers , drug addicts, thieves, addiction with mental illness, etc etc. I’m older now with absolutely no family other than in my house ( I’m an only child). My advice in these situations is to give them a chance to show they are working on themselves, but I’d put them in rehab now. I know this always doesn’t work but maybe 90 days in rehab relearning how to live anew might help. Please help those in need and don’t abandon them. I have no family and I’ve become jaded by a lot in my life. I’ve had more people I live die than live. To anyone watching this vid and reading this. Help them, send them to rehabilitate their lives and find a new outlet or you can try some tough love ❤️ and help them through it on your own. I would knowing i never want another call like that one I got long ago. Take care guys. Help someone u ❤️. 🙏🏽
You wanna know if the family could have done something different? Could they have helped her from a person who has spent a lot of time with? People have addiction and also I have addiction myself. I have a problem with gambling. Yes, I love it. That's why I stayed away from it. Now, now the only way she's gonna change as when she hits a rock bottom. Once she hits that rock bottom. Then you may be able to work with it. But she has to do it herself. You can't force someone. To get rid of their demons, there are addictions, but they have to want to help themselves. You can support them somewhat, but you can't support their addiction. If they are stealing from you, you have to cut them off. You cannot help him until they want help people with the dictions. Won't stop until they hit rock bottom. And hopefully, that rock bottom isn't a pine box if you know what I mean, death cause there is only 2 ways a person with an addiction, alcoholism, gambling drugs. I'm gonna go the easier gonna hit rock bottom and want to change and change. Are there gonna be dead either someone is going to take their life? What you said or they're addiction is gonna take their life so and retrospect until she hits rock bottom, there is nothing her family could do to help her. Her brother might have should have left her in jail. Maybe that that would have been the rock bottom, but no, he helped her got her out of jail, and you guys made demands telling her to go therapy. Yes, therapy will help but only if she has to hit that rock bottom that wall that frigging place.
John should’ve let her stay in jail. She needs to learn.
Story 1- Love the alarm clock ringing when SIL spoke. Definitely alarm bells with that story!
You read my mind about it. Either I'm way too jaded, or I have been around too many entitled idiots because I didn't believe Karen changed for an instant.
With an addiction you have to want to stop for yourself not for someone else.Unless you are ready to quit it don't matter how much help you get it won't work.
ROCK 🪨 BOTTOM IS DIFFERENT 4 EVERYBODY
@@ninaross211true but one still needs to want to stop for themselves.
Right so true a 💯 percent I so agree I m glad I quite gambling for 5 6 years now I only gambled 5 6 months ago one time at the bar but other wise I really don't gamble any more
It generally takes several attempts to kick these habits and you have to want to do it.
Brutal Revenge!!! Awesome
Trying to save an addict is like trying to put out a house fire by locking the door.
It doesn't work like that.
The only person who can truly help an addict is the addict themselves. At a certain point, family and friends must disconnect to protect themselves. Love does not conquer all.
Sad but very true
That's right.
Karen has to want help to get help. I hope that she does this soon. My father was the same way.
My sister is an alcoholic since 30 years, she was 6 times in rehabilitation, the last was December 22 until February 23, she started after a few days drinking again! I applied for adult social services as a last resort, (i was only skin and bones because of all the worries and stress)now she lives in a social institution with social care. The family judge also visited her 2 times, she is not fit to stay by herself... alcoholic dementia, fatty liver disease, and all kind of illnesses. It is sad, but we as family and her son have tried everything.
Thanks for sharing god bless you for helping her and not leaving her alone and not giving up on her
How can you tell if an addict is lying? Their lips are moving.
Smart on the parents to stop the money flow to their daughter.
I can't remember the name of the author, but many years ago, I read a book re black holes leading to wormholes and those lead to white holes and then ... one's in another universe.
SIL couldn’t get clean because she didn’t have to take responsibility and get help herself. Rock bottom
The truth is unless the person themselves want help and choose to make the change there is nothing you can do
She needs to hit rock bottom. I sure hope that therapist had a release of information, she broke confidentiality if not.
Should have left her in jail
She was stealing from the family. She has an issue and she needs to work on it. The family can try to help her but unless she wants help it ain’t gonna happen and if the sister-in-law knew OP knew about this dark secret you would think she’d be nicer to OP but I’m glad it is out in the open
"I dont think Karen would enjoy a night in jail."
That's the F@king Point!
I feel so sorry for Karen. Addiction changes your personality and makes you selfish and destructive. Unfortunately, you cannot light yourself on fire to save someone from their addictive personality if they refuse help and are unwilling to change.
Unfortunately, she's not going to change until she's ready. You cannot bring that about no matter what you how hard you try. Its totally up to her.
She needs her loyalty to be with her husband , The sister did what she knew she was gonna do and she found out about it no question go with your gut and your husband
The family could not have done anything else. The addict has to be willing to accept their problem and WANT to change. They have to do it for themselves. This is an example of "tough love".
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She will not begin to change until she hits rock bottom if then. No more help until then ,and then very careful help where she can't take advantage anymore.
It is so hard to go through this as a family. Been there done that. It breaks your heart to have to cut off family, but sometimes it's the only thing you can do to help them see the road they're on.
B4 change can truly happen ppl have to hit their personal ROCK BOTTOM what ever it may be.
Sometimes they have to hit rock bottom several times before the desire to change is strong enough. I had a BIL that was in and out of rehab and AA several times. Didn't help! When they were cleaning out his room at the nursing home he ended up in, they found empty and full bottles of booze under his bed! He wasn't ever able to break free of his addiction that eventually contributed to his death. (Emphysema and liver disease.)
People PLEASE don't drink and/or smoke. IT WILL KILL YOU!
Pretty much everybody below is correct. She has to want to change. I like your storytelling/reading style; nice job!
Damn keeping a secret tell everyone that she has a gambling addiction and she's been stealing money from the family account. It's crazy how she wants to be mean but quickly forgets that she stole money from the family inheritance account. I would've sang like a canary and told them that they need to block all the access from the sister. Then I would've left and went home
Seems to agree with the "Cocaine Mummies'?
Good morning, everyone!
Afternoon!
Less than 10% of addicts get cleaned up. They can acknowledge their addiction and say the right things but they carry on in their ways to oblivion. OP and the rest of the family did all they could. Karen is heading down.
The addict must hit total bottom to get the message they have a problem. Bailing the addict out of jail or financially is only prolonging the inevitable "bottom". Sadly- some addicts never get the message or admit they have a problem.....
MOST addicts never get the message.
So sad so so sad
People have to want to help themselves until then there is nothing you can do
Don't save her, she don't wanna be save 🤣
The one thing I know about addiction is that it is a daily struggle for the person with the addiction. As alcoholics go to AA meetings, there are meetings for Gamblers. Since she also drinks, these meetings may meet both addictions
They need to make her learn the consequences of her actions stop enabling her spoiled entitled self. If not you're gonna have to bail her out for the rest of her life
It was definitely time to give Karen some tough love.
Blow her cover! You tried to help her. She tried to hurt you. She would have burned you behind your back. You also have a husband problem is he doesn't stick up for you. She NEEDED INPATIENT care. Sober house, drug testing, etc. THE COURT might provide treatment since she is in legal trouble bc of addiction
THAT DOES NOT WORK. Unless the person is willing to work on it themselves it is just a waste of time and effort as they will immediately return to their addiction once released.
Please OP wasn’t trying to be nice, she never was. Karen more than likely knew that OP wasn’t being genuine. That being said Karen has to accept she has a problem until then nothing will happen.
Why would you give an addict money instead of making direct payments to the therapist?!
Thanks for the video
This is why inheritance should only be handled by lawyers.
There is an old saying you can lead a horse to water but you cant make them drink.
I would have hung up at the first get John. Let her sit were she's at. Also if he's gonna keep defending his sister girl time to leave
Family members did what they could to help her out but two months later she off the wagon. Playing the con artist game once again didn’t last long she got caught with her lies again. Tough love from the family was the last straw to kick her out in the streets to deal with her own addictions.
Everyone has dealt with an addict in some form or another 🤷🏽🤷🏾♀️💯
In a way I wish that they would have put her in rehab. Maybe that would’ve helped. I say that because you can’t leave the building until the time is over which is usually 90 days. Sometimes you can check yourself out. But you have to want to be healed in order to survive
Story 1: NTA
Sister needs to hit rock bottom first before wanting to change.
Because of doctor patient confidentiality the Therapist is not allowed to tell OP anything about Karen?! 🤔 Or karen could sue him and he could lose his license to practice ! Were they really all that naive to give karen money instead of just paying therapist ?! 😂
I swear this first story OP is a busy body. She all in this family business. Where is her family? Handle the wrong way. One sided story. OP trying to paint herself a victim. It wasn’t your place to tell it wasn’t her money.
My thoughts exactly. She was completely disingenuous in her motives.
Addicts can only be helped when they want to be helped by seeing their need for the help. Karen did not believe that anything was wrong with her. Hopefully in time Karen will see a need to get help.
That last is wishful thinking.
Some people just can't be helped you just have to let them struggle
Last story. The thing they should have done different was to have not coddled her in the first place. She should been sent to rehab at the first sign.
And send them back again and again.
An addict can get sober without rehab they just have to want it enough.
Will have 3 years next month. Did it through zoom meetings because rehabs were closed. I wanted soberity enough to fight for it.
Nta. Never worry about the words and opinions of addicts. Karen is the bad ine who stole. Not you
Sounds like SIL didn't think op was good enough for her brother and therefore hated op, even though there was no reason. Plus thinks that op is taking her brother away from her. Not surprised that she didn't take well to op talking back to her. Nor am I surprised that she tried to act dumb about the transactions though her face said everything and tried to get mad at op. Despite op being nice to her she still tried to get op casted out. She didn't think op would expose her but how wrong she was. It's on her that her family now knows that she's been stealing from the inheritance, all because she wanted op out of the picture for no reason other than greed and attention seeking. Update, not surprised that despite the family being upset with her she refuses responsibility and doesn't think it's serious. SIL is most definitely a Karen. Karens don't want to change because they think they know better and their logic is completely screwed up. Hence why she dismisses the evidence and refuses to take it seriously. Yep, there's the tantrum when a Karen is denied what they want. Plus the insane Karen logic with how she took Op's advice to see professional help and think she's above everyone. Update 2, Why am I not surprised that she called her brother and spun a lie that the cops kidnapped her and took her to jail while she was just having a good time, classic lying Karen. And there's the truth from the cops about what really happened. Not surprised that she still insulted the cops then tried to play the innocent girl act with her brother. Update 3, some Karens do learn after facing consequences and hopefully she did. Not surprised that she didn't like the "scrutiny" though from her family. Though not surprised that she still acted entitled like a Karen through her getting help. Update 4, then again some Karens don't learn and go back to their old ways. Not surprised that she kept lying about being sober and seeing the therapist. Of course she tried to lie when confronted til evidence was shown. I don't feel pity for Karen as she's proved that she hasn't learned and only cares about herself. She only begged for another chance because of money and didn't want to be homeless. It's on her that's she's homeless and has no family.
My husbands oldest sister hated me we married at 20 and over the years out of his sight she would say I don't know what my brother sees in you, he bought me a dishwasher her reply you don't deserve a dishwasher as much as I do.
A few years later we went no contact after years of abuse toward me that I kept from my husband.
Maybe if they left her in jail would have helped?
You can't help anyone. Untill they hit rock bottom and wanted the help
The overdramatic narration is like nails to a chalkboard in my ears but the story is so interesting it's almost worth it
you can't save someone who doesnt want to be saved which is usually the case for addicts it makes no difference their vice
Calling BS on this story. The therapist Would not have violated patient privacy and told the friend squat.
If its private pay the therapist can disclose that the sessions ended.
A therapist cant charge when the client stops treatment. And when its private pay, one can ask if the client ending treatment was because of the client or therapists actions.
Married to a drug and alcoholic for 30 years thought I could save him. Didn't realize he needed to help himself. He died of a massive heart attack. Can't help someone who doesn't want the help. I still miss him but I don't miss the chaos.
Can't help anybody that doesn't want help They have to want it🤔🤔
Sometimes, family cannot facilitate change. The person has to want to be sober. My brother went through every program in the state for drinking and for gambling. My mother hovering and saying how it was awful that he had to be in treatment with drug addicted people. Her poor baby boy. He died just a week before his 60th birthday, Blood alcohol 3 x the legal limit, drugs in his system and IOU’s to people who tried to take my parents home. He had told everyone who would listen that my parents house was really his, and that he let them live there. He died on mom’s living room floor before EMS arrived. All the money, support, cars, apartments, treatment, debts, bonds that my parents took care of made no difference in the end. My sister and I were afraid of him as we got older, he was a terrible brother.
Drunk Gambler - Already knew from beginning she wouldn't change. Not cuz the story lead into it but an alarm clock right behind sin going crazy. In my crazy conclusions is I took it as alarm bells going off for lying.
They should force to go to rehab one she has to live in for at least a year
What country are you in?
Most rehabs cap at 28 days.
If their insurance even covers it
So your husband Allowed other people in his family to treat his wife like dirt ?! 🤔 You cannot help an addict unless they really want to help. It is up to them and they have to really want it. There is such thing as doctor patient confidentiality which means therapist is not allowed to tell you anything about karen !! Could be sued and lose their License to practice!
Hate speech isn’t a thing
Few indeed are the addicts who can stop and not have a period of regression, the family did fail her in this regard. They should have gotten some help themselves on how to handle an addict to maximize their own effect on the addict. Also I suspect her animosity against the OP was in fact her responding to her own conscience about her actions which she knew were wrong. So often the people who are accusing others of underhanded actions are the ones who are in fact doing the same. But by doing so she did set up OP to be her worst critic and made it much harder for OP to be helpful but again, self destructive people often strike the hardest against those they see as being the ones most likely to be able to help them.
Also they failed to get the message out to the friends that they should not take the addict into situations where her resolve would fail. It did not escape my attention that she was out drinking with "friends" which makes me suspect her "friends" led her back into her addiction because they share that addiction.
I say this not to judge OP and the rest of the family but to encourage them that there's still hope, only it's going to take more work.
If Karen is ready I think therapy in an institution is a better alternative
She wanted grocery money for greens…as in a pool table and the betting field of a roulette wheel…
Cutting Karen off was the right thing to do - this situation called for one dollar steak ie tough love. She was given the opportunity to turn her life around - yet Karen bit the hands the helped her. She has hit rock bottom - and will continue to dig until she realizes there’s no to go but up!
Please learn how to pronounce "niceties" (timeline 5.24) properly as also "disproved" (23.28 timeline) as opposed to the disapproved you stated. Two very different meanings.
Pretty sure the therapist can't give you any kind of information at all What is it going with the rock was there not going any kind of information
Alcoholism and Addiction are the disease of the mind, body, and spirit. It takes more than treatment and counseling to truly overcome such matters. Yes, treatment is needed sometimes because of the withdrawal and detoxification processes. However, it's a matter of the heart. Matter of the heart as in spiritual aspects. Spiritual Aspects if not included in such matters causes treatment centers to seem inept and non-beneficial. It also causes the non-diseased individuals to become sickened too. Especially when the non-alcoholic and non-addict individuals become enablers and part of the spin wheel of: rescuer, persecutor, and victim. All of that has to stop!
645👍's up thank you for sharing
Yes they should have called the police immediately and had her arrested for embezzlement and theft and put her in prison and they wouldn't have to deal with this anymore and then by the time she got all these me be straight or she could be worse than she is now but it wouldn't be their problem because I would get a restraining order to keep her away from them
2 minutes in and why did you stay when he wouldn't stand up for you?! Have some self respect and self esteem, I would have been out
I’ve had many relatives go through addiction. All the help in the world was given to them. Some died a horrible lonely death surrounded by their addictions. I even lost an entire piece of my family to this (father,mother and son who was my only cousin close to my age). I was the one to get the call at 4 am telling me (I was a young teen) that my older cousin wrapped himself around a guardrail doing over 100 mph. I was also there to identify the body( why !). I’ve had gamblers , drug addicts, thieves, addiction with mental illness, etc etc. I’m older now with absolutely no family other than in my house ( I’m an only child). My advice in these situations is to give them a chance to show they are working on themselves, but I’d put them in rehab now. I know this always doesn’t work but maybe 90 days in rehab relearning how to live anew might help. Please help those in need and don’t abandon them. I have no family and I’ve become jaded by a lot in my life. I’ve had more people I live die than live. To anyone watching this vid and reading this. Help them, send them to rehabilitate their lives and find a new outlet or you can try some tough love ❤️ and help them through it on your own. I would knowing i never want another call like that one I got long ago. Take care guys. Help someone u ❤️. 🙏🏽
Codependent posts are always entertaining. Keep fixing broken people, martyr.
And this is why even women don't trust women remember that people 😂😂😂😂😂
You wanna know if the family could have done something different? Could they have helped her from a person who has spent a lot of time with? People have addiction and also I have addiction myself. I have a problem with gambling. Yes, I love it. That's why I stayed away from it. Now, now the only way she's gonna change as when she hits a rock bottom.
Once she hits that rock bottom. Then you may be able to work with it. But she has to do it herself. You can't force someone. To get rid of their demons, there are addictions, but they have to want to help themselves. You can support them somewhat, but you can't support their addiction. If they are stealing from you, you have to cut them off. You cannot help him until they want help people with the dictions. Won't stop until they hit rock bottom. And hopefully, that rock bottom isn't a pine box if you know what I mean, death cause there is only 2 ways a person with an addiction, alcoholism, gambling drugs. I'm gonna go the easier gonna hit rock bottom and want to change and change. Are there gonna be dead either someone is going to take their life? What you said or they're addiction is gonna take their life so and retrospect until she hits rock bottom, there is nothing her family could do to help her. Her brother might have should have left her in jail. Maybe that that would have been the rock bottom, but no, he helped her got her out of jail, and you guys made demands telling her to go therapy. Yes, therapy will help but only if she has to hit that rock bottom that wall that frigging place.