Flamu, the Scharnhorst's guns are wonderful firestarters with battleship range. All you have to do to appreciate the guns is to forget that euphoric BB feeling of big numbers popping up.
First of all Myoko fire control is 15.6 km, not 19.9. Secondly dispersion for Scharnhorst guns is not much worse than Myoko guns at equivalent range. Thirdly Scharnhorst guns have higher fire chance. Overall Scharnhorst starts 5.4 fires per minute and Myoko starts 7.3 given perfect shell delivery. It starts the most fires of any T7 BB. Also they pen way more than Myoko shells do, so their actual delivery of alpha damage is way higher.
daftrhetoric Yes Scharnhorst dispersion is fucking awful compared to Myoko's. The only thing they have in common is the sigma value, otherwise Myoko beats out the Scharnhorst in horizontal dispersion by a mile just like any cruiser does any BB. 5.4 vs 7.3 fires per minute IF both ships hit all shells, but Scharn will hit significantly less so the actual value lies closer to 3.5-4.
Total cash grab on the part of Wargaming. I've been getting more and more pissed off at how random battles are being dominated by pay2win ships. The first match I see where there's an all premium team I'll immediately hit Alt+F4 and the game will be gone from my PC before the battle can end.
Actually gotten citadel hits on both Scharnhorst and Gneisenau. It was a surprise for me since I'd never citadeled any German BB before. The first time it happened I was being chased in my Nagato by a Gneisenau who was bow on to me. I think a shell I fired penetrated the deck armour on the bow and hit the citadel there or perhaps overmatched the bow armour. The second time was with a Scharnhorst. Again it was in my Nagato, but I nailed him while he was broadside on so I'm not sure which shell of the many I hit that actually reached his citadel. So yes it is quite rare, but it's apparently possible to citadel a Tier VII German BB.
You know, I have been in a argument with several people, who think the Nagato doesnt stand a Chance against the Scharn twins. Glad to see someone who agrees with my point of view.
Thanks for putting them up and the opinions, I was debating moving my cpt to the Nagato or doing solely Blyska so this helps me know I'm not a complete potato haha o7
Thanks Lord for Tier7 Ranked. Tier 8 we would have had to deal with all the IFHE Kutuzovs.... I am happy - My Scharnhorst, Belfast, Leningrad and Shira are ready and this is going to be a good season :)
One important part about picking a ship to play is that it has to be a ship you're comfortable playing. For instance, I'm far better with the sneaky _Shiratsuyu_ gameplay over the Russian gunboat playstyle (which is why that's the one DD line I've not done), so _Shiratsuyu_ fits me better. Then again, I don't have those premiums anyway. Also, one detail about _Myoko_, the regular version is better than the ARP ones, because of camo.
I played about 20 ranked games on SEA now and I feel Atlanta is so underappreciated. WG actually began selling the Belfast again during ranked and lots of noobs simply bought it and took it into ranked thinking they will be so powerful. And to a certain extent it is, since many Belfasts is nightmare for any BB player, especially for Nagato and Colorado, since their 25mm armor is paper against 152mm IFHE. So what happened is that ranked is filled with CA(L) (I'll just refer to them all as CA for convenience) with very few BBs and DDs. This makes the Atlanta super strong. HE does so much damage against CAs and DDs, and your rate of fire and radar hard counters any smoke play. Against BBs Atlanta is actually equally good. Side by side, Atlanta is so much thinner than any other CA. In fact, its width is more similar to a DD than to a CA. Therefore most AP overpens it and does negligible damage. Added to this, Atlanta doesn't have citadel under its turrets, so it can actually use the edge of an island to shoot with half of its turrets while spotted. Any AP shots will do normal penetration damage at worst and overpen damage in most cases. Finally USN arcs become an advantage in ranked, since Atlanta can still fire over islands at extremely close ranges. Whereas Belfast has to come out to the open, smoke, and shoot, risking being radared and taking torpedoes, Atlanta can use almost any island as cover because of the high shell arcs. This takes away the danger of torpedoes and radar completely. Although positioning in Atlanta is more difficult than in Belfast due to the lack of smoke, once in an optimal position, the Atlanta is actually more effective than Belfast. Atlanta is not nearly as strong in random battle, as locking down one cap zone is usually not enough to secure a win, and teammates have a tendency of dying for no reason. Added to this Atlanta can't really do long range sniping. However in ranked none of those is an issue. Even better, there is so much cover in ranked (surprisingly) as WG chose many island filled small maps, and there are so many smoke ships at tier 7. When battles happen at close range all the time, Atlanta is a monster. Therefore personally, I think Atlanta should be in the good tier at worst, and possibly even considered a top tier.
Excellent, my only two Tier 7's, the Scharnhorst and Blyskawica, are among the top picks...probably will stick more to Scharn as I still need to learn a lot in the Blys, especially like when to use smoke for anyone but myself
I've been playing Colorado for a bit now in ranked and I am surprised by how well I am doing... I've gotten some great kills on Nagatos and such and the Colorado can really give the team a boost with drawing attention away, absorbing torpedos and giving AA cover
So we have 2 BBs, 2 CVs, 4 CL (5 with Flint but if you see a Flint user you can only hope he did not die often enough to get one and your chances to win the match rise drasticly) & 4 DDs to pick from. Could be worse. Chat will be fun when people bring their "bad" ships to RB.
I think the Pensacola will do just fine with the buff. 10km Detection and 203 mm Sledgehammers that are accurate. The AP is great too. I do fine in her in Random Battles with her nimble profile and decent rudder shift and the concealment buff only helps more with that. I don't need to worry about getting out spotted as the Flint is a pretty rare ship, Atlantas can be dealt with quickly and Belfasts have paper armour. Some good positioning and WASD hacks are all you need. The Akatsuki is also pretty competitive with a fully upgraded captain and the second lowest concealment in the tier. The Shiratsuyu may have TRB but it can only be used once or twice in battle and the torpedo reload is longer in general. The Akatsuki has great torps that go fast and hit hard and have a consistent reload as well. Plus it gives you the versatility of three triple tubes which let you weed out smoke campers or delete them.
I highly disagree with the Indianapolis being bad for ranked battles. I assume that we will see many Belfasts during this season and Indianapolis is one of the cruisers to perfectly counter it with the extremely powerful APs and the potent AA. Otherwise the Indianapolis isn't that good but still a strong ship against DDs and cruisers.
Flamu acm1pt Flamu, your vids are so good these days... I bet you will see a lot "rebalancing" stuff after this season and hopefully that includes the removal of RPF
LMAO in ranked, you would be so lucky to get close enough, ie, 9km to the Belfast in order to radar him in Smoke... you'll be dead from 12km until you get to 8.9km to use your radar. Crap ship IMO.
I wouldn't put the Akatsuki in the "not recommended" list. As you said, in the current meta where everyone hides in smoke, you can easily get your kill with the 3x3 spread, the torps in general are awesome and the guns aren't too bad, actually I think they hit quite hard and the arcs are beautiful, it's just the reload that hurts its performance (the turret traverse can be upgraded). At longer to long ranges I guess it can match a Mahan or a Sims because of their floaty arcs, especially when they are surprised that you actually use your guns without hesitation. Also, I've found the Akatsuki quite difficult to hit and the HP pool sufficient. Its sheer presence might make any BB reconsider pushing...
So do the Flint and the Belfast have contemporary counterparts in 2019? I find your Best ships in Ranked some of your most informative videos that are short and concise. Doing the different Tiers is awesome for those who are still working our way through the lower tiers. Thank you for all your hard work. Saves a lot of us wasted free xp in research.
well WG needs something to live from...I dont see a problem buying a premium ship if you enjoy this game..I would rather buy a ship than AAA game I will never enjoy more than WoWs
I don't have any T7 premiums so I'll have to make do. I'll probably use a mix of the T7s that I have, like Myoko, Pensacola, York, Gneis, Shirayatsu, and Kiev. I play well in all those ships (except for the gnies for some reason) so I'm not too worried. Also, I made rank 4 in the 4th season so I'm pretty confident.
Good stuff to know, it's just a shame that no amount of appropriate ships or skilled players will save you if your DDs are clueless and won't spot. That's been my problem for the last few matches, except the ones where I play DD and the rest of the ships won't stay in the smokes Iay for them, nor shoot at targets being spotted XD
lol i usually end out chasing down the enemy DDs in my Scharn because the teams cruisers are too focused on getting stuck in to actually play their roles, same with allied DDs.
I love my Scharnhorst in Ranked battles. I usually throw on my concrete vest, rope as many people by the ankles as I can and then jump in the ocean. 3 kills, 150k dmg GG
You say Ranger is not recommended, I say challenge accepted. But I can agree and would rather take any of the other 2 if I had decided to buy a Saipan and haven't sold the Hiryu. Funny thing is that I rushed for the Shokaku because I could not participate in the last season too much due to the lack of T8 ships, and I have no credits to buy back the Hiryu, but at least I have a Ranger :)
"In epicenter where spotting enemy DD's and killing them is so important" - Can you make a video repeating this like for a hour? People really need to learn this!
I'd say that the Kiev and the Schors while they are the weakest of their class they have an advantage in that they don't have to deal with the smoke radar torp fiasco that's going to be going on in mid. They are effective at range as well as drawing attention away from key assets. It isn't so much a direct advantage but to those who know how to be annoying and a good shot while minimizing their disadvantages these are indeed good ships. Not to say I disagree in that they aren't top tier ships but I don't think they were judged appropriately on their strengths when played well but rather in general against their constituents.
Cyanide7662 lol yeah basically. Playing around that bumfuckery is going to decide battles. Radar, hydro, and torp soup is one way to go about it but so is range as it doesn't have to worry about any of those things. It also counters US ships with their lofty shells. My argument here is that there's more than one way to skin a cat and if you just threw these ships at their competition they would lose but if they're used to their strengths they can be viable. Keeping BBs on fire at range and shooting at you keeps a lot of pressure off your other cruisers and allows them to carry. The Keiv does something similar with belfasts / Atlantas / flints trying to shoot you instead of your BBs / other DDs. Both of them do well against angled BBs with their range, fire rate, and fire chance. Makes me really wish I had a Leningrad as it can do both depending on the situation.
I could differ on the IJN DDs: Shiratsuyu is not so far different than an Akatsuki. They can stay in the same league: A bit less concealement (without flag but with skin and cpt skill concealment is 5.6 vs 6.4) is well traded with 1\3 faster reload torp. Surelly Shira can drop 16 torps "every now and then", but the 3x3 and faster reload of Akatsuki could give more versatility and more "pressure" to enemies...
I'd say you underestimate secondary builds with German BBs. The Gneisenau has slightly bigger guns then the Scharn and doesn't bounce angled CAs as bad as it's sister often does. You can get it's secondaries to fire up to 7.6km range and since it's tier 7 it benefits greatly from the MSC skill. I think it's right up there with the Scharn as a good pick. Also if dealing with angled BBs you can just spam HE while you close within torp range.
The Akatsuki is underrated. With the right skill set and tactics it is a very good ship. It's not ment to fight DDs, it's a torp boat. That doesn't mean you can ignore it's guns though. The Akatsuki can rip apartment braodside cruisers with it's AP. HE spam BBs to death with the new HEAP skill. It is a nice versatile ship. One of the best ship in my port and I do very well with it.
I'm surprised to see the Nagato being better than the Scharnhorst and Gneisenau. It looks as if we'll be getting back the old T7 ranked meta for BB's this season. I'll still be using my Scharnhorst, because I really enjoy playing it. :-)
Maas has exactly same concealment than Blyska (6.8km), Leningrad and Sims. Also torps in the commentary were the stock ones. I don't say it will shine and I will probably use mainly Blyska, but just to be fair - it has the best torps from all gunboats and with the same concealment and sonar it can be very strong in smoked caps. We will see how many Belfasts and Atlantas with radar will spoil life of DD captains.
You should probably revisit the Yorck. IFHE makes the HE spam that much more potent on it. The gun angles are actually better than that of Myoko. It's also more maneuverable than Myoko. I think it can be quite competitive.
The Saipan has the advantage of being a really good DD hunter. Dead DDs in ranked are an important factor. Also the 3 fighters are perfect for air superiority and spotting constantly the enemy
Ranked gonna be infested with premiums especially saipan, blys and belfast. Assuming its a 7v7, it won't be a surprise to see 1 saipan, 2scharn, 3 belfast and 1 blys in a team
Well a Scharnhorst will always be able to remove almost 50% of your HP instantly with Torps + German 2ndaries (Using my Bismarck captain on my Scharn, 7.6km range). I can't remember the last time I lost a brawling match in my Scharn, even being the lower tier in it doesn't matter. Torps you can't miss with unless you're mentally challenged + great 2ndaries let's it go toe to toe with anything... Anything that lets a good Scharn get close will get punished for it.
Well if nagato had its belt streched compleatly over the front magazines + aft magazines then it would actuall values - even if it has its real 289mm magazine armor its still not covered by belt like it was in real Nagato :) - but then again Nagato had front/rear more armored then Bismarck/Tirpizt class and it would be full tier 8 so... And @Flamu Gneis and Scharn can be citadelled - from over 14km range while they broadside or from 3,5-7km range while they are forward angled on you in 35-45deg under frontal turret by Nagato's shells ! (the same range/angle work in Yamato citadelling a Currywurst) it requires training and RNG not to fuck you up, but they can be citadelled
Looking at the selection of ships for rank season, the feeling that EU region, and RU region playing different games. And the real proof of that chose ships for rank games. And this is interesting
Well TOP for us (i mean top league) CV only Hiryu coz Saipan good but his 9 lvl plane lose dogfight, next BS Scharnhorst and Gneisenau, Nagato is prety good but with new 4 point perk for CA (Inertia Fuse) make them very strong. Nagato lose tons of HP from tip and has a weak broadside. СA its Belfast (RLS) Fiji (can recovery HP) and Myoko. DD Sims(mahan) (nice long smoke) Shiratsuyu ( 16 torpedoes in the smoke). Leningrad, Blyskawica, Kiev nice DD but they have short smoke, large radius of the glare. Season Jul in the High League have been mainly from DD Mahan( Sims) smoke/smoke/smoke and CA Myoko. And rarely Nagato
I do not really see big differences in your list and I can see people choose Scharnhorst and Gneisenau above Nagato because of the armor and close quarters combat potential but Nagato has the bigger guns Nagato and colorado will have to make the difference at the beginning and middle of the game in the time that there are still sufficient vessels to smoke them up and stop the Germans from closing in
Yo Flamu. Overall I agree and after a while i'm following you I trust you but You watched at this in a really competitive way this time, may not only competitive but also "playng in a team way" IMO. Is it really so above Rank 5? Keep up with this great job m8
As said, disclaimer. But I do think the Akatsuki can do good. I've had mine run vs both Sims and others with no issues and torp based. 3 volleys with 1 on constant roll reload from stealth. beast.
David Racek I'd rate Gneisenau the same as Nagato. But in the hands of a skilled captain, Nagato is far better. Angle and you can bounce anything but 406mm/410mm shells. Gneisenau will be a very popular pick and so will Scharnhorst so the Nagato doesn't really face much of a threat against them if the captain is good at angling and Nagato shells are basically the same as Amagi shells just two barrels less and the Torpedo protection is great as well. 65k HP is also brilliant in a competitive mode. Overall a great all rounder. Gneisenaus may be more forgiving but are easy to counter for a good captain.
sorry to say that but my atlanta can burn you before 3 salvos on me and 6 shells on 12 to 10 km for me is easy to dodge, in counterpart nagato is hell the nagato ap is sooo good as colorado, they do me sometimes 12 to 15 k, without citadel effect but you can buff your nagato with heap and use the japanese he damage in cirscuntances!!!! i will say nagato will be the besy ship in tier 7 with the ricght captain skills and player skill
Flamu can you do something like this for all the ships in the game, or at least the lines you've played? it would be cool to know which are good and which to skip
Have a question about Commander skills.........Do you change the skills on youre Commanders on the diffrent ships because it's ranked battle and not random ?
gneisenau and graf spee to name another you have shown a hatred for both and with about 100 battles on each I have win rates in the 60% range in random on each. Phenomenal survival rates and kill rates and extreme damage on both. They both play like battle cruisers and it apparently is the class I was meant to play but doesn't exist. The gneisenau will be my main ranked ship I do have the jap cruisers in t 7 but I want to win. Moving up to bismark my stats went to crap I do better in all in the gneisenau just love brawling. I suck with torpedoes but having that threat is so powerful. Just veering toward a nagato under 6 km range and I will dictate his turn as he has no choice but to turn to flee for fear of the torps. I don't even need to use them just the threat is enough to make ships expose their broadsides. I expect to crack rank 5 and hopefully see rank 1 this time. The last time the NC had me stuck in rank 9 and 10 at that point I couldn't advance kind of a helpless feeling as your brutally hunted by unseen dds.
I feel so sad for all the Indianapolis owner..... ...oh fuck, I completly forgot - I have one in my port since ages..... "The not even average one at no special section!"
Akatsuki versus Shiratsuru - Detection and torp reload that has like a 4 minute cool down, yea I will live without 7 torps for a few seconds. Akatsuki has a lower detection than Sims and is only bested by Shiratsuru that I see but Akatsuki has better RoF and faster torp reloads, I believe, than Shiratsuru. Don't have a Lenny or Blyskawica but I'm sure I wouldn't bother with either (not a wallet warrior) but my point is Akazuki is a fair fight to Shiratsuru. The only thing that treats it is itself. They are both very capable ships if you know their limitations (Just tossing this out there for the guys who don't have premiums) Akatsuki is my go to ship and I happened to win a Sims so that is second in line
What should I prioritize on the Blys, CE or AFT? Sadly I haven't been playying her much, as I thought ranked was tier 8 (before the announcement 2 weeks ago) and I was leveling my IJN cpts LOL
Hey Flamu, think you can make a video of the recommended builds for ranked season 6? while your 0.6 builds for premiums probably still apply, for the non premiums your videos are mostly geared towards tier 10 and not tier 7. So wondering if you would change anything.
it is really dependent, akatsuki beat both mahan and shiratsuyuu front on, if it is a BB heavy game, or IJN DD heavy game, akatsuki beat them all. For none prem DD, akatsuki is definitely up there on the top. But this is a P2W season, so expecting the number of prem ship in a game, akatsuki is definitely not recommended. Also akatsuki produce more torp in water than shiratsuyuu, shiratsuyuu produce 8 every 4 torp reload, but akatsuki produce 9 every 3 torp reload, the leverage is 1:3 comparing to 1:2. And the torp reload module only useful when you see a great smoke blob.
In a one on one, sure. But what about LITERALLY EVERY OTHER SHIP THAT SUDDENLY SEES YOU? The maass has the concealment of a BB when it's firing (that too, a bb specced for concealment)
Really lookin forward to ranked videos, allthough its random players, teamplay and tactics is higher than random! love ur vids, but its just more fun if opponents aint random battle potatoes 95% of the time
1st priority is against fire, then aircraft You can angle your amor or dodge to reduce dmg from shells or torp but you are too slow and big to dodge the aircraft, so you must shoot them down as much as you can. fire is a common problem, try to minimise the chance and faster fire distingush
***** Well. That sucks as Ive pretty much built it around maxing out the secondaries to 7 kilometers and made it a Destroyer/Cruiser hunter. Chunk them down with the main battery and then have the secondaries finish the job... Its not very effective but it gets the job done. Sort of. Against German battleships it sucks.
Until I get my Colorado...my only T7 ship that I have is my Indy...and I have not mastered her enough to be good with it. I usually get focus fired on immediately or I get one or two shotted to oblivion. Most of my fleet is T5/T6. Sigh.
don't underestimate the Colorado. Sharn angling? no problem. smash the superstructure for a 12k volley. Belfast spotted? delete. see that Blys running away at 13km? salvo out. there goes half his health. incoming planes? more like incoming gnats. anything that gets within that bofors belt is toast. HE spam? no problem. just heal back half the ship's health in one go. torps? this thing turns better than cruisers. downsides? slow. so people have to wait a bit for their demise. big deal. *Colorado is not for everyone, and not recommended for any but the most seasoned Colorado players. Colorado can and will cause an increased sodium content for both teams involved. Please see a doctor if you experience salt overload, as this can be fatal to those with short tempers. Restrictions may apply.
I disagree about the Akatsuki, people don't know how to play it correctly. It's a savage in ranked as an open water dd with great speed, 41 knots and powerful rear guns and if anything chases you, you can burn it down including mahans and blysk, lenins etc. It's purpose is to spot the enemy cap and then get other players to chase it. With the extended 3 minute boost module nothing in the game can catch it before losing all their health. It's torps are also defensive in nature requiring very little turn to launch at chasing vessels.
Kiev is not recommended? I'm sorry but if I can pick tier 7 ships for my team I will pick Kiev as a "must have DD" first and then choose the 2nd DD with good concealment for early scouting. The reasons are because first: when the main battle of both team started Kiev is the best DD that can push enemy DDs back effectively and maintain its DPS on enemy BBs and Heavy Cruisers by causing fire; Second: on the maps with high amount of covers Kiev outperformed other DDs of the same tier due to its high top speed and high damage torpedoes.
Pa! Try to get a some until you get higher in rankeds... No one cares about a other ship that needs support until you get higher .-. Same with the focus 7 ships will focus 7 others.
You are joking saying that German BB's can't be citadelled. My Colorado citadelled the Gneisenau right THROUGH its bow. The Colorado is also extremely hard to citadel and packs more a broadside punch then the Scharnhorst and Gneisenau with better maneuverability to dodge the torpedoes and angle against them between salvos.But hey, that's just my opinion.
German BB's can be citadelled but usually only from long range with plunging fire. If you got one through the bow at close range then you got very lucky. Colorado however can be citadelled quite easily if you give the side and will eat full AP pens straight bow on. It's fine 1 on 1 when you can angle but struggles if outnumbered. She's also slow. If you get pulled out of position even once the battle will run away from you. It's the guns on the Colorado that are indeed glorious...when they work. It's a bit of a scatter shot though.
He has been wrong before, last season he said the Tashkent was one of the worst ships to ever play in ranked yet I did extremely well in it, I even CARRIED games in it, multiple times, average damage of 90k+ and a 60%+ win rate without any issues, sometimes he overlooks things.
+Marcus Engdahl to be fair he did say it's just his opinion. He also seems to be trying to base it on the game and player base as a whole. Based on the overall stats for the Tashkent in ranked it did struggle with 48% win rate compared to the Benson's 51%. It was down on average damage, xp, KD, and survival rates. It actually under performed compared to all the tier 8's at the time so strictly speaking he didn't get it wrong. I know someone who does very well in the Mahan and has carried games in it quite regularly but I find the Mahan to be an utter turd to play. Flip side is I do well in my Atago but he really struggles in it. There are going to be ships Flamu's mentioned that on average are going to struggle but fit an individual player so well they do what you did in the Tash.
Well the thing is, I'm not a "very good" player what so ever, I struggle in most ships, but playing the Tashkent in Ranked was the easiest thing I've ever done in WoWS, the ship was excellent in Ranked the problem is that 80% of players in WoWS are complete ass.
just because you did well in it doesn't disprove his point. it did nothing that another DD didn't do better, and the benson easily had the best mix of traits, though not number 1 at any, it was good at everything. if you were truly that good in the trashcant, you really should've played a better DD cuz you woulda done better. the benson was simply equal or better than the tash in every way, particularly stealth. by the time i got to premiere league, all i saw were bensons. NOBODY got to the top with the tash. you were the exception that proves the rule.
Timestamps; BBs: 1:20, CVs: 5:45, CAs: 6:48, DDs: 13:58
TOP TIER:
CV: Saipan, Hiryu
BB: Nagato
CA: Belfast, Flint
DD: Leningrad, Blyskawica
Good tier:
BB: Scharnhorst
CA: Myoko, Fiji,
DD: Sims, Shiratsuyu
Competitive tier:
BB: Colorado, Gneisenau
CA: Atlanta
DD: Mahan
Not recommended:
CV: Ranger
CA: Pensacola, Indianapolis, Shchors, Yorck
DD: Akatsuki, Kiev, Maass
Thank you but.. ill give a try to my kiev :)
Emre İlter Yeah thank you allready! Thank you ...
Flint? That only the people who achieved rank 1 in 3 seasons could get?
i think shes a impressive ship
Nagato represent!
Drinking game: take a shot of vodka each time Flamu says " definitively" instead of "definitely". Major props if you make it out alive.
Lol
Challenge accepted.
How am I going to notice the difference between "definitively" and "definetly" after the first 5 shots?
This is definitively not a good idea xD
Yep just got out of county jail after trying this and I can confirm this is indeed not a good idea.
Premiums really need to be excluded from ranked. Unnerfable ships just shouldn't be in a competitive mode.
hey man they nerfed the tirpz to the keel.
Lassaro that would be a law violation in the eu and get them buttfucked quite hard.
Yes they did, she's basically useless most of the time now.
Tirpitz useless LUL you must be that guy sniping at 20km :p I have no issues maintaining 90k avg
I was neither addressing you, nor asking you for your thoughts on the matter. Thank you for sharing though.
Flamu, the Scharnhorst's guns are wonderful firestarters with battleship range. All you have to do to appreciate the guns is to forget that euphoric BB feeling of big numbers popping up.
They are literally weaker Myoko shells with much worse accuracy and reload.
First of all Myoko fire control is 15.6 km, not 19.9. Secondly dispersion for Scharnhorst guns is not much worse than Myoko guns at equivalent range. Thirdly Scharnhorst guns have higher fire chance. Overall Scharnhorst starts 5.4 fires per minute and Myoko starts 7.3 given perfect shell delivery. It starts the most fires of any T7 BB. Also they pen way more than Myoko shells do, so their actual delivery of alpha damage is way higher.
daftrhetoric
Yes Scharnhorst dispersion is fucking awful compared to Myoko's. The only thing they have in common is the sigma value, otherwise Myoko beats out the Scharnhorst in horizontal dispersion by a mile just like any cruiser does any BB. 5.4 vs 7.3 fires per minute IF both ships hit all shells, but Scharn will hit significantly less so the actual value lies closer to 3.5-4.
daftrhetoric Scharn is still a huge target and any Myoko running DE will make you BBQ
pay2win confirmed
This ranked season is World of Premiumships...
It's gonna print WG a lot of cash, AND annoy the player base.
My thoughts exactly. Only non premium he gave really top tier was the Nagato. Rest are premium ships that cost 30$ plus.
still wont stop me to get rank 1 in my Myoko
Total cash grab on the part of Wargaming. I've been getting more and more pissed off at how random battles are being dominated by pay2win ships. The first match I see where there's an all premium team I'll immediately hit Alt+F4 and the game will be gone from my PC before the battle can end.
I'm going to have fun deleting these premiums with the Nagato
Actually gotten citadel hits on both Scharnhorst and Gneisenau. It was a surprise for me since I'd never citadeled any German BB before.
The first time it happened I was being chased in my Nagato by a Gneisenau who was bow on to me. I think a shell I fired penetrated the deck armour on the bow and hit the citadel there or perhaps overmatched the bow armour.
The second time was with a Scharnhorst. Again it was in my Nagato, but I nailed him while he was broadside on so I'm not sure which shell of the many I hit that actually reached his citadel.
So yes it is quite rare, but it's apparently possible to citadel a Tier VII German BB.
Thanks for the Kill Order List.
I lived in Japan for 13 years as a kid, and have to say you pronounced Shiratsuyu pretty well. You got it right :)
They need to give torpedoes and healing to Belfast and spotting plane.
You know, I have been in a argument with several people, who think the Nagato doesnt stand a Chance against the Scharn twins. Glad to see someone who agrees with my point of view.
Thanks for putting them up and the opinions, I was debating moving my cpt to the Nagato or doing solely Blyska so this helps me know I'm not a complete potato haha o7
Thanks Lord for Tier7 Ranked. Tier 8 we would have had to deal with all the IFHE Kutuzovs.... I am happy - My Scharnhorst, Belfast, Leningrad and Shira are ready and this is going to be a good season :)
love the nagato one of my favorite ships in the game. great guns nice armor and decent accuracy on the guns such a nice overall package :D
DEANOGTO Played her 2 days ago one time...rly don't know why I stoped playing this beautiful ship.
One important part about picking a ship to play is that it has to be a ship you're comfortable playing. For instance, I'm far better with the sneaky _Shiratsuyu_ gameplay over the Russian gunboat playstyle (which is why that's the one DD line I've not done), so _Shiratsuyu_ fits me better. Then again, I don't have those premiums anyway.
Also, one detail about _Myoko_, the regular version is better than the ARP ones, because of camo.
I played about 20 ranked games on SEA now and I feel Atlanta is so underappreciated. WG actually began selling the Belfast again during ranked and lots of noobs simply bought it and took it into ranked thinking they will be so powerful. And to a certain extent it is, since many Belfasts is nightmare for any BB player, especially for Nagato and Colorado, since their 25mm armor is paper against 152mm IFHE. So what happened is that ranked is filled with CA(L) (I'll just refer to them all as CA for convenience) with very few BBs and DDs. This makes the Atlanta super strong. HE does so much damage against CAs and DDs, and your rate of fire and radar hard counters any smoke play.
Against BBs Atlanta is actually equally good. Side by side, Atlanta is so much thinner than any other CA. In fact, its width is more similar to a DD than to a CA. Therefore most AP overpens it and does negligible damage. Added to this, Atlanta doesn't have citadel under its turrets, so it can actually use the edge of an island to shoot with half of its turrets while spotted. Any AP shots will do normal penetration damage at worst and overpen damage in most cases.
Finally USN arcs become an advantage in ranked, since Atlanta can still fire over islands at extremely close ranges. Whereas Belfast has to come out to the open, smoke, and shoot, risking being radared and taking torpedoes, Atlanta can use almost any island as cover because of the high shell arcs. This takes away the danger of torpedoes and radar completely. Although positioning in Atlanta is more difficult than in Belfast due to the lack of smoke, once in an optimal position, the Atlanta is actually more effective than Belfast.
Atlanta is not nearly as strong in random battle, as locking down one cap zone is usually not enough to secure a win, and teammates have a tendency of dying for no reason. Added to this Atlanta can't really do long range sniping. However in ranked none of those is an issue. Even better, there is so much cover in ranked (surprisingly) as WG chose many island filled small maps, and there are so many smoke ships at tier 7. When battles happen at close range all the time, Atlanta is a monster. Therefore personally, I think Atlanta should be in the good tier at worst, and possibly even considered a top tier.
Excellent, my only two Tier 7's, the Scharnhorst and Blyskawica, are among the top picks...probably will stick more to Scharn as I still need to learn a lot in the Blys, especially like when to use smoke for anyone but myself
I've been playing Colorado for a bit now in ranked and I am surprised by how well I am doing... I've gotten some great kills on Nagatos and such and the Colorado can really give the team a boost with drawing attention away, absorbing torpedos and giving AA cover
So we have 2 BBs, 2 CVs, 4 CL (5 with Flint but if you see a Flint user you can only hope he did not die often enough to get one and your chances to win the match rise drasticly) & 4 DDs to pick from. Could be worse.
Chat will be fun when people bring their "bad" ships to RB.
Thanks for the video! :) Completely agree with all of your picks. Great job on all the work keep it up! :)
This video is like a Wargaming premium ships commercial. FeelsBatman
It may be worth noting that I think the Shiratsuyu has the best stealth firing capabilities with its guns too. Or comparable with the top tier picks.
Got my Blys and 19pt capt ready and waiting....thanks for the list. *Salute*
Gary Falbo I got now a good König captain...because I thought it will be 5/7 .-.
I think the Pensacola will do just fine with the buff. 10km Detection and 203 mm Sledgehammers that are accurate. The AP is great too. I do fine in her in Random Battles with her nimble profile and decent rudder shift and the concealment buff only helps more with that. I don't need to worry about getting out spotted as the Flint is a pretty rare ship, Atlantas can be dealt with quickly and Belfasts have paper armour. Some good positioning and WASD hacks are all you need. The Akatsuki is also pretty competitive with a fully upgraded captain and the second lowest concealment in the tier. The Shiratsuyu may have TRB but it can only be used once or twice in battle and the torpedo reload is longer in general. The Akatsuki has great torps that go fast and hit hard and have a consistent reload as well. Plus it gives you the versatility of three triple tubes which let you weed out smoke campers or delete them.
I highly disagree with the Indianapolis being bad for ranked battles. I assume that we will see many Belfasts during this season and Indianapolis is one of the cruisers to perfectly counter it with the extremely powerful APs and the potent AA. Otherwise the Indianapolis isn't that good but still a strong ship against DDs and cruisers.
Best Belfast counter is another Belfast.
Eating Flashbang too bad they aren't applying the USN cruiser reload buff to the Indianapolis....15 second reload is ridiculous.
Flamu
acm1pt Flamu, your vids are so good these days... I bet you will see a lot "rebalancing" stuff after this season and hopefully that includes the removal of RPF
LMAO in ranked, you would be so lucky to get close enough, ie, 9km to the Belfast in order to radar him in Smoke... you'll be dead from 12km until you get to 8.9km to use your radar. Crap ship IMO.
I think the Fiji is easier to kill than Indianapolis.
I wouldn't put the Akatsuki in the "not recommended" list. As you said, in the current meta where everyone hides in smoke, you can easily get your kill with the 3x3 spread, the torps in general are awesome and the guns aren't too bad, actually I think they hit quite hard and the arcs are beautiful, it's just the reload that hurts its performance (the turret traverse can be upgraded). At longer to long ranges I guess it can match a Mahan or a Sims because of their floaty arcs, especially when they are surprised that you actually use your guns without hesitation. Also, I've found the Akatsuki quite difficult to hit and the HP pool sufficient. Its sheer presence might make any BB reconsider pushing...
best CV Premium, best CA Premium, best DD premium...
I sense a pattern...
Yea at least he is being honest about it
if you have a flint you should not be watching this video at all
So do the Flint and the Belfast have contemporary counterparts in 2019? I find your Best ships in Ranked some of your most informative videos that are short and concise. Doing the different Tiers is awesome for those who are still working our way through the lower tiers. Thank you for all your hard work. Saves a lot of us wasted free xp in research.
Premium Ranked! for wallet warriors :V
well WG needs something to live from...I dont see a problem buying a premium ship if you enjoy this game..I would rather buy a ship than AAA game I will never enjoy more than WoWs
It's gonna be a Belfast galore
But the real question is, why allow OP premiums to play that are better then MOST tech tree ships?
Expect Flints and Belfast spamming HE all day in their smoke
Because it's a free to play game and they have make (more) money somehow
Time to take out the Myoko in random battle for some pratice. Haven't used it in a long while since I have been playing the Mogami and Ibuki nowadays.
I don't have any T7 premiums so I'll have to make do. I'll probably use a mix of the T7s that I have, like Myoko, Pensacola, York, Gneis, Shirayatsu, and Kiev. I play well in all those ships (except for the gnies for some reason) so I'm not too worried. Also, I made rank 4 in the 4th season so I'm pretty confident.
Good stuff to know, it's just a shame that no amount of appropriate ships or skilled players will save you if your DDs are clueless and won't spot. That's been my problem for the last few matches, except the ones where I play DD and the rest of the ships won't stay in the smokes Iay for them, nor shoot at targets being spotted XD
lol i usually end out chasing down the enemy DDs in my Scharn because the teams cruisers are too focused on getting stuck in to actually play their roles, same with allied DDs.
I love my Scharnhorst in Ranked battles. I usually throw on my concrete vest, rope as many people by the ankles as I can and then jump in the ocean. 3 kills, 150k dmg GG
Do you also take into account the level of the captains? Some ships are only useful with 19 point captains, some are not too much affected by it.
My Colorado is ready, also you can use Colorado to citadel Schornast and Guenisis when angled.
You say Ranger is not recommended, I say challenge accepted. But I can agree and would rather take any of the other 2 if I had decided to buy a Saipan and haven't sold the Hiryu. Funny thing is that I rushed for the Shokaku because I could not participate in the last season too much due to the lack of T8 ships, and I have no credits to buy back the Hiryu, but at least I have a Ranger :)
Thanks, nice video.
I was looking to Scharnhorst it up for a while now.
was waiting for this, thanks
"In epicenter where spotting enemy DD's and killing them is so important" - Can you make a video repeating this like for a hour? People really need to learn this!
Great article. Please can we also have some advice on captain perks? I know recommendations can change for ranked. Cheers
I'd say that the Kiev and the Schors while they are the weakest of their class they have an advantage in that they don't have to deal with the smoke radar torp fiasco that's going to be going on in mid. They are effective at range as well as drawing attention away from key assets. It isn't so much a direct advantage but to those who know how to be annoying and a good shot while minimizing their disadvantages these are indeed good ships.
Not to say I disagree in that they aren't top tier ships but I don't think they were judged appropriately on their strengths when played well but rather in general against their constituents.
Cyanide7662 lol yeah basically.
Playing around that bumfuckery is going to decide battles.
Radar, hydro, and torp soup is one way to go about it but so is range as it doesn't have to worry about any of those things.
It also counters US ships with their lofty shells.
My argument here is that there's more than one way to skin a cat and if you just threw these ships at their competition they would lose but if they're used to their strengths they can be viable.
Keeping BBs on fire at range and shooting at you keeps a lot of pressure off your other cruisers and allows them to carry. The Keiv does something similar with belfasts / Atlantas / flints trying to shoot you instead of your BBs / other DDs.
Both of them do well against angled BBs with their range, fire rate, and fire chance.
Makes me really wish I had a Leningrad as it can do both depending on the situation.
I could differ on the IJN DDs: Shiratsuyu is not so far different than an Akatsuki. They can stay in the same league: A bit less concealement (without flag but with skin and cpt skill concealment is 5.6 vs 6.4) is well traded with 1\3 faster reload torp. Surelly Shira can drop 16 torps "every now and then", but the 3x3 and faster reload of Akatsuki could give more versatility and more "pressure" to enemies...
I'd say you underestimate secondary builds with German BBs. The Gneisenau has slightly bigger guns then the Scharn and doesn't bounce angled CAs as bad as it's sister often does. You can get it's secondaries to fire up to 7.6km range and since it's tier 7 it benefits greatly from the MSC skill. I think it's right up there with the Scharn as a good pick. Also if dealing with angled BBs you can just spam HE while you close within torp range.
The Akatsuki is underrated. With the right skill set and tactics it is a very good ship. It's not ment to fight DDs, it's a torp boat. That doesn't mean you can ignore it's guns though. The Akatsuki can rip apartment braodside cruisers with it's AP. HE spam BBs to death with the new HEAP skill. It is a nice versatile ship. One of the best ship in my port and I do very well with it.
Just gotta remember not to fight other DDs. You're a cruiser/BB hunter killer.
I'm surprised to see the Nagato being better than the Scharnhorst and Gneisenau. It looks as if we'll be getting back the old T7 ranked meta for BB's this season.
I'll still be using my Scharnhorst, because I really enjoy playing it. :-)
Maas has exactly same concealment than Blyska (6.8km), Leningrad and Sims. Also torps in the commentary were the stock ones. I don't say it will shine and I will probably use mainly Blyska, but just to be fair - it has the best torps from all gunboats and with the same concealment and sonar it can be very strong in smoked caps. We will see how many Belfasts and Atlantas with radar will spoil life of DD captains.
You should probably revisit the Yorck. IFHE makes the HE spam that much more potent on it. The gun angles are actually better than that of Myoko. It's also more maneuverable than Myoko. I think it can be quite competitive.
Can you make video about Mogami with 155mm gun with IFHE?
I have Belfast but I think I will rather play with Fiji because when there are no T8 or T9 ships there is no point using HE.
The Saipan has the advantage of being a really good DD hunter. Dead DDs in ranked are an important factor. Also the 3 fighters are perfect for air superiority and spotting constantly the enemy
A good Hiryu captain can obliterate an AS Saipan
true, but a good Saipan can also deal with a good Hiryu
Ranked gonna be infested with premiums especially saipan, blys and belfast. Assuming its a 7v7, it won't be a surprise to see 1 saipan, 2scharn, 3 belfast and 1 blys in a team
Honestly, although what flamu says its correct, just use whatever you want and have fun, no point slaving through and hating it.
Can you make a video with Captain Builds especially for those top tiers? i bought again the nagato for this season and im not sure how to build her.
Dang it if I wanna brawl in my Nagato I will brawl in my Nagato!
olixor It's pretty capable in Brawling if you know how to angle and use the stop-go tactics. People underestimate it a lot.
TheGeekWithNoChill wht do u mean by stop and go?
Well a Scharnhorst will always be able to remove almost 50% of your HP instantly with Torps + German 2ndaries (Using my Bismarck captain on my Scharn, 7.6km range). I can't remember the last time I lost a brawling match in my Scharn, even being the lower tier in it doesn't matter. Torps you can't miss with unless you're mentally challenged + great 2ndaries let's it go toe to toe with anything... Anything that lets a good Scharn get close will get punished for it.
Tell that to the Nagato that came out broadside to my Arizona at 3km...5 citadels...
Well if nagato had its belt streched compleatly over the front magazines + aft magazines then it would actuall values - even if it has its real 289mm magazine armor its still not covered by belt like it was in real Nagato :) - but then again Nagato had front/rear more armored then Bismarck/Tirpizt class and it would be full tier 8 so...
And @Flamu Gneis and Scharn can be citadelled - from over 14km range while they broadside or from 3,5-7km range while they are forward angled on you in 35-45deg under frontal turret by Nagato's shells ! (the same range/angle work in Yamato citadelling a Currywurst) it requires training and RNG not to fuck you up, but they can be citadelled
how about those ARP ships?
Nachi,Myoko,Ashigara,Haguro and offcourse now The Eastern Dragon
Looking at the selection of ships for rank season, the feeling that EU region, and RU region playing different games. And the real proof of that chose ships for rank games. And this is interesting
is the playing style is so different?
what are the top choices no the russian server than
What ships are recommended for RU?
Well TOP for us (i mean top league) CV only Hiryu coz Saipan good but his 9 lvl plane lose dogfight, next BS Scharnhorst and Gneisenau, Nagato is prety good but with new 4 point perk for CA (Inertia Fuse) make them very strong. Nagato lose tons of HP from tip and has a weak broadside. СA its Belfast (RLS) Fiji (can recovery HP) and Myoko. DD Sims(mahan) (nice long smoke) Shiratsuyu ( 16 torpedoes in the smoke). Leningrad, Blyskawica, Kiev nice DD but they have short smoke, large radius of the glare. Season Jul in the High League have been mainly from DD Mahan( Sims) smoke/smoke/smoke and CA Myoko. And rarely Nagato
THX!
I do not really see big differences in your list
and I can see people choose Scharnhorst and Gneisenau above Nagato because of the armor and close quarters combat potential
but Nagato has the bigger guns
Nagato and colorado will have to make the difference at the beginning and middle of the game
in the time that there are still sufficient vessels to smoke them up and stop the Germans from closing in
Yo Flamu. Overall I agree and after a while i'm following you I trust you but You watched at this in a really competitive way this time, may not only competitive but also "playng in a team way" IMO. Is it really so above Rank 5?
Keep up with this great job m8
As said, disclaimer. But I do think the Akatsuki can do good. I've had mine run vs both Sims and others with no issues and torp based. 3 volleys with 1 on constant roll reload from stealth. beast.
we will see about gneisenau.
Not sure why he ranked Nagato higher myself. Nagato is lunch to the Gneisenau.
David Racek I'd rate Gneisenau the same as Nagato. But in the hands of a skilled captain, Nagato is far better. Angle and you can bounce anything but 406mm/410mm shells. Gneisenau will be a very popular pick and so will Scharnhorst so the Nagato doesn't really face much of a threat against them if the captain is good at angling and Nagato shells are basically the same as Amagi shells just two barrels less and the Torpedo protection is great as well. 65k HP is also brilliant in a competitive mode. Overall a great all rounder. Gneisenaus may be more forgiving but are easy to counter for a good captain.
i killed a scharnhorst 1 vs 1 with a kongo, the secret is aim to sperstructure!!
sorry to say that but my atlanta can burn you before 3 salvos on me and 6 shells on 12 to 10 km for me is easy to dodge, in counterpart nagato is hell the nagato ap is sooo good as colorado, they do me sometimes 12 to 15 k, without citadel effect but you can buff your nagato with heap and use the japanese he damage in cirscuntances!!!! i will say nagato will be the besy ship in tier 7 with the ricght captain skills and player skill
Flamu can you do something like this for all the ships in the game, or at least the lines you've played? it would be cool to know which are good and which to skip
Have a question about Commander skills.........Do you change the skills on youre Commanders on the diffrent ships because it's ranked battle and not random ?
The Yorck works perfectly well with a 10 point captain... at least up to rank 10
gneisenau and graf spee to name another you have shown a hatred for both and with about 100 battles on each I have win rates in the 60% range in random on each. Phenomenal survival rates and kill rates and extreme damage on both. They both play like battle cruisers and it apparently is the class I was meant to play but doesn't exist. The gneisenau will be my main ranked ship I do have the jap cruisers in t 7 but I want to win. Moving up to bismark my stats went to crap I do better in all in the gneisenau just love brawling. I suck with torpedoes but having that threat is so powerful. Just veering toward a nagato under 6 km range and I will dictate his turn as he has no choice but to turn to flee for fear of the torps. I don't even need to use them just the threat is enough to make ships expose their broadsides. I expect to crack rank 5 and hopefully see rank 1 this time. The last time the NC had me stuck in rank 9 and 10 at that point I couldn't advance kind of a helpless feeling as your brutally hunted by unseen dds.
i love my indianapolis since it is buffed to not take 10000 citadels anymore
@Flamu how do you get Poland, pan-Asia, and France to appear on the side bar when looking at the tech tree?
isn't Kiev being replaced with a non premium version of the Leningrad?
I feel so sad for all the Indianapolis owner.....
...oh fuck, I completly forgot - I have one in my port since ages.....
"The not even average one at no special section!"
Akatsuki versus Shiratsuru - Detection and torp reload that has like a 4 minute cool down, yea I will live without 7 torps for a few seconds. Akatsuki has a lower detection than Sims and is only bested by Shiratsuru that I see but Akatsuki has better RoF and faster torp reloads, I believe, than Shiratsuru. Don't have a Lenny or Blyskawica but I'm sure I wouldn't bother with either (not a wallet warrior) but my point is Akazuki is a fair fight to Shiratsuru. The only thing that treats it is itself. They are both very capable ships if you know their limitations (Just tossing this out there for the guys who don't have premiums) Akatsuki is my go to ship and I happened to win a Sims so that is second in line
Blyska have more guns which is important in competitive compared to the Leningrad. But I like them both :)
Blyska ftw!
7 guns vs 5 it is a big DPM difference.
Cyanide7662. It is Ranked Battles, after a week or two all the Belfasts will be top tier and the peasants will be left to fight over the scraps
I hear they're changing the game name to 'Belfasts & Scharnhorsts online' for a while.
I wonder what your Lenny build looks like.
What should I prioritize on the Blys, CE or AFT? Sadly I haven't been playying her much, as I thought ranked was tier 8 (before the announcement 2 weeks ago) and I was leveling my IJN cpts LOL
ty man this helps ... so your saying beside the JP bb .. the next best is the grem right ?
Hey Flamu, think you can make a video of the recommended builds for ranked season 6? while your 0.6 builds for premiums probably still apply, for the non premiums your videos are mostly geared towards tier 10 and not tier 7. So wondering if you would change anything.
Scharnhorst, Belfast, Saipan spam confirmed
Lucas Dement Saipan spam.. this world is doomed
it is really dependent, akatsuki beat both mahan and shiratsuyuu front on, if it is a BB heavy game, or IJN DD heavy game, akatsuki beat them all. For none prem DD, akatsuki is definitely up there on the top. But this is a P2W season, so expecting the number of prem ship in a game, akatsuki is definitely not recommended. Also akatsuki produce more torp in water than shiratsuyuu, shiratsuyuu produce 8 every 4 torp reload, but akatsuki produce 9 every 3 torp reload, the leverage is 1:3 comparing to 1:2. And the torp reload module only useful when you see a great smoke blob.
Maas is waay underestimated.
Come at my Blyska then.
We'll see:
· RoF fight:
Lebe: 16.6 rpm x 5 rifles x 500 damage = 41666.666....
Blysk: 10.25 rpm x 7 rifles x 566.66... dmg = 40683.76...
·HP:
Lebe: 17500
Blysk: 15500
·Torps:
Lebe: 2x4 / 90s reload / 8.5km / 65knts / 1.3km detection
Blysk: 2x3 / 70s reload / 8km / 57knts / 1.2km detection
·Speed
Lebe: 37knts
Blysk: 39knts
Mass has sonar of 4.2km / Blysk better smoke
If Blysk is one of the best dds Maass is really underestimated.
In a one on one, sure.
But what about LITERALLY EVERY OTHER SHIP THAT SUDDENLY SEES YOU?
The maass has the concealment of a BB when it's firing (that too, a bb specced for concealment)
It's your choice where and when to accept fights.
Concealed BBs are dangerous to cruisers and other BBs, to you - much less so.
i agree with most of this EXCEPT CV's The Ranger is a real good ship if you actually play it right and its one of my Favorite Cvs in the game
Really lookin forward to ranked videos, allthough its random players, teamplay and tactics is higher than random! love ur vids, but its just more fun if opponents aint random battle potatoes 95% of the time
Hi Flamu.
Do you recommend a secondary build on the Nagato or a tank build?
You don't want to brawl in a Nagato. Go for the tank build
What if I don't have 19 point captains for them, more like 14. Do these recommendations still stand?
What about the ARP Myoko clones since they lack the concealment?
Well, obviously less because they lack concealment. So probably not recommended.
Wtf you talkin about Matthew Chan. Still better than a Pensacola.
The_lol_King don't think it makes that much of a difference, as long as you pack concealment expert
Pensa now have better concealment than myoko so its not better
Well I have Ranger, Pensacola, Akitsuki and Colorado. Im fucked hahaha. At least i've got Ashiraga (?
I know your pain on the Akatsuki. Ficken hate that thing and the game seems to always match me against Shitsuys just to rub it in.lol
Whats a good Nagato build? Ive kinda built it around secondaries As Im having trouble doing damage with the main battery
learn2aim
Kaseko It doesnt penetrate battleships and it overpens Cruisers.
1st priority is against fire, then aircraft
You can angle your amor or dodge to reduce dmg from shells or torp but you are too slow and big to dodge the aircraft, so you must shoot them down as much as you can.
fire is a common problem, try to minimise the chance and faster fire distingush
Hoang Long Angling isnt the issue. The issue is the main battery either overpens or Bounces. So I end up doing no damage.
***** Well. That sucks as Ive pretty much built it around maxing out the secondaries to 7 kilometers and made it a Destroyer/Cruiser hunter.
Chunk them down with the main battery and then have the secondaries finish the job... Its not very effective but it gets the job done. Sort of.
Against German battleships it sucks.
Wait i thought belfast has DCP?this video shows that it doesn't that'sfor sure, then which Brit CLs has it?
Would you say IFHE or Stealth Fire first 4 point Captain pick on the Belfast?
Gamer No Mates IFHE
So basically, if you want a top tier anything, you gotta spend money.
"MY-O-KO" ????????
Myō-Ko !!!!!!!!!
He's from Finland and already knows at least three languages, I think we can let it slide :P
If you want to here japanese stuff the right way, watch japanese videos..
where is the difference. appart form one - you spelled both the same.
well i will now call it μ-oko.
Until I get my Colorado...my only T7 ship that I have is my Indy...and I have not mastered her enough to be good with it. I usually get focus fired on immediately or I get one or two shotted to oblivion. Most of my fleet is T5/T6. Sigh.
don't underestimate the Colorado.
Sharn angling? no problem. smash the superstructure for a 12k volley.
Belfast spotted? delete.
see that Blys running away at 13km? salvo out. there goes half his health.
incoming planes? more like incoming gnats. anything that gets within that bofors belt is toast.
HE spam? no problem. just heal back half the ship's health in one go.
torps? this thing turns better than cruisers.
downsides? slow. so people have to wait a bit for their demise. big deal.
*Colorado is not for everyone, and not recommended for any but the most seasoned Colorado players. Colorado can and will cause an increased sodium content for both teams involved. Please see a doctor if you experience salt overload, as this can be fatal to those with short tempers. Restrictions may apply.
I disagree about the Akatsuki, people don't know how to play it correctly. It's a savage in ranked as an open water dd with great speed, 41 knots and powerful rear guns and if anything chases you, you can burn it down including mahans and blysk, lenins etc. It's purpose is to spot the enemy cap and then get other players to chase it. With the extended 3 minute boost module nothing in the game can catch it before losing all their health. It's torps are also defensive in nature requiring very little turn to launch at chasing vessels.
Kiev is not recommended? I'm sorry but if I can pick tier 7 ships for my team I will pick Kiev as a "must have DD" first and then choose the 2nd DD with good concealment for early scouting. The reasons are because first: when the main battle of both team started Kiev is the best DD that can push enemy DDs back effectively and maintain its DPS on enemy BBs and Heavy Cruisers by causing fire; Second: on the maps with high amount of covers Kiev outperformed other DDs of the same tier due to its high top speed and high damage torpedoes.
Pa! Try to get a some until you get higher in rankeds... No one cares about a other ship that needs support until you get higher .-. Same with the focus 7 ships will focus 7 others.
what's your captain skill to get 14.4km range in blyskawica?
Advanced Firing Training will increase the range of all main battery guns up to 139mm.
unless Flamu's changed his build is this shipcomrade.com/captcalc/0100000000000011000010100000100119 and AFT is increasing the range
Correct
So, would you go AS or Strike on your CVs?
Should I use sonar/hydro on my flint?
Question, will we be able to use the arp myopic styled ships this season?
Arp myoko*
You are joking saying that German BB's can't be citadelled. My Colorado citadelled the Gneisenau right THROUGH its bow. The Colorado is also extremely hard to citadel and packs more a broadside punch then the Scharnhorst and Gneisenau with better maneuverability to dodge the torpedoes and angle against them between salvos.But hey, that's just my opinion.
German BB's can be citadelled but usually only from long range with plunging fire. If you got one through the bow at close range then you got very lucky. Colorado however can be citadelled quite easily if you give the side and will eat full AP pens straight bow on. It's fine 1 on 1 when you can angle but struggles if outnumbered. She's also slow. If you get pulled out of position even once the battle will run away from you. It's the guns on the Colorado that are indeed glorious...when they work. It's a bit of a scatter shot though.
He has been wrong before, last season he said the Tashkent was one of the worst ships to ever play in ranked yet I did extremely well in it, I even CARRIED games in it, multiple times, average damage of 90k+ and a 60%+ win rate without any issues, sometimes he overlooks things.
+Marcus Engdahl to be fair he did say it's just his opinion. He also seems to be trying to base it on the game and player base as a whole. Based on the overall stats for the Tashkent in ranked it did struggle with 48% win rate compared to the Benson's 51%. It was down on average damage, xp, KD, and survival rates. It actually under performed compared to all the tier 8's at the time so strictly speaking he didn't get it wrong.
I know someone who does very well in the Mahan and has carried games in it quite regularly but I find the Mahan to be an utter turd to play. Flip side is I do well in my Atago but he really struggles in it. There are going to be ships Flamu's mentioned that on average are going to struggle but fit an individual player so well they do what you did in the Tash.
Well the thing is, I'm not a "very good" player what so ever, I struggle in most ships, but playing the Tashkent in Ranked was the easiest thing I've ever done in WoWS, the ship was excellent in Ranked the problem is that 80% of players in WoWS are complete ass.
just because you did well in it doesn't disprove his point. it did nothing that another DD didn't do better, and the benson easily had the best mix of traits, though not number 1 at any, it was good at everything. if you were truly that good in the trashcant, you really should've played a better DD cuz you woulda done better. the benson was simply equal or better than the tash in every way, particularly stealth. by the time i got to premiere league, all i saw were bensons. NOBODY got to the top with the tash. you were the exception that proves the rule.