@@StuartSimon Of course ... "these performances" by larger ensembles like hr-Sinfonieorchester blending in natural horns and trumpets when called for, while maintaining their standard woodwind sections. So, is this symphony a tragedy or a farce?
@@steve.schatz To me, it’s a farce. Haydn was enthusiastic about the Paris commission and rejoiced in his newfound glory. For reasons that are too complex to explain here, Haydn is offering the Parisians a symphony that satisfies the convention of a minor-key symphony in a set. He uses G minor only as much as the convention requires of him. Thus the symphony promises to offer tragedy but utterly negates it in the end. Schubert’s Tragic Symphony, for that matter, doesn’t fare much better. Though the title is Schubert’s own, he was likely referring simply to the fact that he was trying out a symphony in minor.
@@StuartSimonmixing instruments from completely different periods suggests on of two possibilities. 1); someone lost their marbles or, 2) someone doesn’t give a flying cuss about scholarship and the early music movement.
Pure, absolutely pure and clear sound in this "super classical" Haydn symphony. Incredible musicians and conductor orchestra! Well, as usual. Excellent! Priceless to enjoy, priceless!
Clear and clean performance of this finely composed symphony with well articulated and perfectly synchronized sound of all the instruments. The second movement sounds almost heavenly. The intelligent maestro leads the excellent orchestra in appropriate tempi with carefully controlled dynamics. Simply beautiful!
The first movement is wonderful. Such tension and . . . anxiety which resolves beautifully. Many of Haydn's symphonies are trivialized by the silly 'nick' names. Is his music, therefore, under-rated? What do I know? I merely listen. Sixty years' ago my parents bought me a recording of the Surprise Symphony (Music for Pleasure, 12/6d). I loved it ever since.
This performance is amazing. I must say this is one of the best if not the best youtube recording ive heard of this, but anything you find cannot compare in any way of hearing it in person
Honestly one of the best Conductors alive. Almost all his recordings are gold. And all with lesser known Orchestras/opera houses. Probably because he has more freedom to chose the musicians he likes.
Schmackhafte Aufführung dieser leckeren Sinfonie mit saftigen Töne aller Streicher und milden Töne aller Holzbläser. Die Kombination des mitteleuropäischen Komponisten und des südamerikanischen Dirigenten wird von diesem deliziösen Orchester im perfekten Einklang gebracht. Ein wahrer Gaumenschmaus! Shoutout an notaire2!
@@notaire2 #nohate Die redundanten Kommentare unter jedem einzelnen Video haben aber schlicht nach einer freundlich gemeinte Parodie geschrien. Mal sehen wer bei den nächsten Uploads schneller seinen Senf dazu geben kann. Diesmal werd ich auch sicher nichts kopieren ;)
Haydn. Hasta donde la genialidad puede asociarse con un hombre sin más bueno, la ha tenido Haydn. Llega exactamente hasta los límites que la moralidad le traza al intelecto; escribe sencillamente música que no tiene «ningún pasado».
Haydn writes accordingly Shakespeare observation "brevity is the soul of wit"....as a result his symphonies arr short hugely enjoyable.......the classical CORE
I like the old days when strings could vibrate on Haydn, or Mozart. This kind of performance 'practice' is just that - practice. You play with a sensibility which has little to do with 21st century emotion and everything to do with a contrived replication of 18th century performance and feeling. This is not music which is living in the present, but in the past, which is wrong. The hell with it.
This is only vague rhetoric which has nothing to do with the music's intrinsic worth. Great music such as this transcends performance practices and the soul and spirit of such music is never quenched, but is enhanced by great and knowledgeable conductors such as Orozco-Estrada.
@@ronaldbwoodall2628 But the soul and spirit of such music IS quenched when a player is asked to replicate the emotions through performance practices which were in use over 200 years ago. It is the performers who bring music to light - music does not exist in a vacuum - and that can only be done with the sensibilities and emotions applicable to the present. Great music does not transcend performance practices when players are asked to duplicate the sentiment of another era. On the contrary, great music, if it is great, should transcend the different styles to which it is subjected. In his time, Mahler asked for a great deal of portamento in his music from string players. At present, that is not done. But the music is still great, even though Mahler's music is not performed in quite the same way as he performed it.
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The interplay between the strings and the woodwinds in this piece is the finest I have heard in just about any symphonic composition .
Delight! Love these performances that blend in the natural horns and trumpets -- and not too small ensembles.
Trumpets? There are no trumpets in this symphony. It’s scored for flute, two oboes, two bassoons, two horns, and strings.
@@StuartSimon Of course ... "these performances" by larger ensembles like hr-Sinfonieorchester blending in natural horns and trumpets when called for, while maintaining their standard woodwind sections. So, is this symphony a tragedy or a farce?
@@steve.schatz To me, it’s a farce. Haydn was enthusiastic about the Paris commission and rejoiced in his newfound glory. For reasons that are too complex to explain here, Haydn is offering the Parisians a symphony that satisfies the convention of a minor-key symphony in a set. He uses G minor only as much as the convention requires of him. Thus the symphony promises to offer tragedy but utterly negates it in the end.
Schubert’s Tragic Symphony, for that matter, doesn’t fare much better. Though the title is Schubert’s own, he was likely referring simply to the fact that he was trying out a symphony in minor.
@@StuartSimonmixing instruments from completely different periods suggests on of two possibilities.
1); someone lost their marbles or,
2) someone doesn’t give a flying cuss about scholarship and the early music movement.
@@steve.schatzall 3
Pure, absolutely pure and clear sound in this "super classical" Haydn symphony. Incredible musicians and conductor orchestra! Well, as usual. Excellent! Priceless to enjoy, priceless!
Clear and clean performance of this finely composed symphony with well articulated and perfectly synchronized sound of all the instruments. The second movement sounds almost heavenly. The intelligent maestro leads the excellent orchestra in appropriate tempi with carefully controlled dynamics. Simply beautiful!
1st movement
0:26 begins | 5:12 build up
2nd movement
7:44 begins | 9:47 light string repeat | 13:04 light string repeat
3rd movement
14:05 begins
4th movement
17:32 begins | 19:47 build up | 21:27 ending
Какие (музыкальные) узоры умели плести истинные Мастера! Наслаждение душе от услышанного! Спасибо!
Beautiful. BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO. EXCELLENT. PLAYED GREATLY AND CONDUCTED BEAUTIFUL Y
aoe and haydn.... an amazing combination. i hope he will continue discover haydn''s treasures
amazing!
musics! My soul is forever yours.
Great performances. Beautifully played and mastered
That second movement in andante was just something else! Wonderful job to the conductor and the orchestra! Makes him one of my favorite conductors
The first movement is wonderful. Such tension and . . . anxiety which resolves beautifully. Many of Haydn's symphonies are trivialized by the silly 'nick' names. Is his music, therefore, under-rated? What do I know? I merely listen. Sixty years' ago my parents bought me a recording of the Surprise Symphony (Music for Pleasure, 12/6d). I loved it ever since.
I appreciate this delightful and smooth performance
7:44 - 2nd movement
14:04 - 3rd movement
17:32 - 4th movement
Большое спасибо за великолепный концерт!
This performance is amazing. I must say this is one of the best if not the best youtube recording ive heard of this, but anything you find cannot compare in any way of hearing it in person
Honestly one of the best Conductors alive. Almost all his recordings are gold. And all with lesser known Orchestras/opera houses. Probably because he has more freedom to chose the musicians he likes.
Wunderschoen!Herzlichen Dank
Deutsche Orchesteraufstellung - wie schön ❤❤❤
Одна з НАЙчарiвнiших симфонiй великого Майстра.!
Bravo!!! Sehr, sehr schön gemacht!! Vielen Dank!!
Wunderschön!
Schmackhafte Aufführung dieser leckeren Sinfonie mit saftigen Töne aller Streicher und milden Töne aller Holzbläser. Die Kombination des mitteleuropäischen Komponisten und des südamerikanischen Dirigenten wird von diesem deliziösen Orchester im perfekten Einklang gebracht. Ein wahrer Gaumenschmaus!
Shoutout an notaire2!
😂😂😂
A monkey imitation is relatively easy as compared with establishing one's own style.
@@notaire2 #nohate Die redundanten Kommentare unter jedem einzelnen Video haben aber schlicht nach einer freundlich gemeinte Parodie geschrien.
Mal sehen wer bei den nächsten Uploads schneller seinen Senf dazu geben kann. Diesmal werd ich auch sicher nichts kopieren ;)
@Relatively Easy No more shoutout, please!
LOL!!!
듣고 듣고 또 듣고..
BRAVO. BRAVO. BRAVO
Bravíssimo 👏👏👏👏👏
Very good, very "Eighteenth" century performance.
Very good but the strings are too big --although they play in a balanced manner but it still can be felt.
Haydn. Hasta donde la genialidad puede asociarse con un hombre sin más bueno, la ha tenido Haydn. Llega exactamente hasta los límites que la moralidad le traza al intelecto; escribe sencillamente música que no tiene «ningún pasado».
Haydn writes accordingly Shakespeare observation "brevity is the soul of wit"....as a result his symphonies arr short hugely enjoyable.......the classical CORE
Não é por menos que a sinfonia clássica deve tanto a Haydn. Temos aqui diversas belezas que revelam a estética musical no século XVIII.
Whatever they are playing - everybody matters. Genius.
Very nice
Haydn's greatest symphony
It’s definitely not ‘Haydn’s greatest symphony, but you’re perfectly entitled to choose it as a favourite.
This Concertino was once blessed on his head by La Diva Netrebko. Remember "Meine Lippen sie küssen"?
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Maybe the first movement is too slow....but there is also a great balance...in general VERY GOOD
BravO ! 👏👏👏👏🌴972
Que lindo!!
Ja es macht einen Hayden spass .
Excelente
Zusammen mit Sinfonie 101 (Die Uhr) die beste Sinfonie von Haydn
I prefer sir colin davis...all in all good work
Belíssima interpretação, embora eu ainda dê preferência àquelas historicamente orientadas. A flauta no Trio está maravilhosa.
17:33
6:20
Haydn el padre de la sinfonía: Mozart y Beethoven le copiaron
Interesting incongruity arises here as the natural Horns are eagerly competing with modern everything else! What a dichotomy!
I like the old days when strings could vibrate on Haydn, or Mozart. This kind of performance 'practice' is just that - practice. You play with a sensibility which has little to do with 21st century emotion and everything to do with a contrived replication of 18th century performance and feeling. This is not music which is living in the present, but in the past, which is wrong. The hell with it.
Go away.
i have to disagree with you. the old way of vibrato romanticizing sound is slow and stodgy. there's more life in this style but to each his own.
This is only vague rhetoric which has nothing to do with the music's intrinsic worth. Great music such as this transcends performance practices and the soul and spirit of such music is never quenched, but is enhanced by great and knowledgeable conductors such as Orozco-Estrada.
@@ronaldbwoodall2628 But the soul and spirit of such music IS quenched when a player is asked to replicate the emotions through performance practices which were in use over 200 years ago. It is the performers who bring music to light - music does not exist in a vacuum - and that can only be done with the sensibilities and emotions applicable to the present. Great music does not transcend performance practices when players are asked to duplicate the sentiment of another era. On the contrary, great music, if it is great, should transcend the different styles to which it is subjected. In his time, Mahler asked for a great deal of portamento in his music from string players. At present, that is not done. But the music is still great, even though Mahler's music is not performed in quite the same way as he performed it.
@@handelviola Listen to the Cleveland Orchestra with Szell and Slatkin with the Philharmonia Orchestra. The string vibrato is hardly slow and stodgy.