It is not great challenge to design a fair election process , IF THAT IS WHAT IS WANTED . Unfortunately it is designed to be corruptible . Dysfunctional government and inflation are the playground of the wealthy , and that dysfunctional system keeps you poor and keeps them rich
34 felony convictions and the count keeps rising. Why is this orange fool already in jail? I can't believe that someone who lead an insurrection is allowed to run for public office ever again. This all indeed proves that there are two sets of laws. One for the rich and powerful and another for the rest of us.
I have been in training to be an election worker here in Florida for a few weekends, with a goal to work throughout this November in the general election. My SOLE REASON for this decision was in direct response to the threats of violence towards poll workers. I won't be intimidated, and it isn't in my nature to be distracted by nonsense. I doubt I am alone in this pragmatism and I urge others who understand their civic responsibilities to get trained and come work the polls with me. Training is free and the pay nominal...but he DUTY is all OURS. Don't be a complaining bystander! Participate. Vote.
As a neutral observer it seems ludicrous to change the rules last minute. There has been 4 years since the last election. Maybe I’m missing something. 🤷🏻♂️
Republicans know they lose the more citizens that vote, so they always try to make it more difficult to vote. This is the same thing, the GQP just wants to sow division & pretend there's something wrong with our elections even though they can't prove it in a court of law. It's strictly to appease their cult leader
I grew up in a middle class family, where I understood that the children of the community are the children of the community.. And what we need to do is to take the time to understand that the place we are going is the place where we have always been, and to keep going there..
@@Liliarthan I think this is what @carlosdanger6129 is trying to say: "Talking about the significance of the passage of time, right, the significance of the passage of time. So, when you think about it, there is great significance to the passage of time in terms of what we need to do. And there is such great significance to the passage of time when we think about a day in the life of our children."
This is a free country, vote for who you want. If you want to vote for high inflation, no law and order, drugs and human trafficking, pro-abortion, free money for immigrants, bailing out irresponsible student debt... then go ahead. There is no law that says you have to be smart or have any moral principles to vote. Trump/Vance 2024!
You didn't seem to have any problems with states doing this exact type of thing in 2020, when many of them changed their election laws within 2-3 months of that election. Why cry now?
crazy to think about how quickly this party became an one man cult. Even more depressing in retrospect i think hillary would have won if everyone would have voted for her who was democratic leaning but did not vote due to her scandals
That’s true Governor Kemp stood up to Trump and I believe part of this is to make sure no one doubts the results. It’s a shame that is happening in the midnight hour though.
@@LouisBartholomew-n9v you have no idea how changing the past effects the present . It could be far worse . Perhaps it could be far better too . Or roughly the same .
Yup. It only concerns you when Republicans change back the democrats last minute election laws and rules changes for the 2020 election that they stole Care to explain?
... Fake a burst pipe on election night so all but 3 operatives leave for hours while you wheel out the pelican cases. This was captured on video, btw.
@@Gargeler - What makes you think hand counting by a vulnerable, error prone human being is superior to the cold, non biased non partisan workings of a machine? Since the 2000 Bush/Gore election exposed the antiquity of election machinery, orgs like the ACM, the Association for Computing Machinery, have been in the ins and outs of building and testing election machinery. Delving into the math. Delving into the vulnerabilities. You just saying stuff makes no sense.
The presidency is something very sacred, it needs to have the right perspective, to help America and people around the world be free, it can be said that Kalama Harris is a bright candidate to be president in 2025, the queen represents equality in the whole world
@@nolongerblocked6210they stopped counting then started up after observes left. If that happened in RU you lefties would be using to say how corrupt Russia is
One ambiguous ballot and the Supreme Court is going to be deciding this election. That's what's going on in Georgia, and a half dozen other states. Americans are ready for democrats this time.
It's almost as bad as running a bad candidate that got zero votes in the primaries in both 2020 and 2024. The Democrats need to have a good hard look at their undemocratic processes.
@@DallyWinston69Trump was caught on a phone call trying to get Brad Raffensberger to steal the votes of Georgians in 2020. This action alone should unequivocally disqualify him from ever holding any public office again.
Republicans hate that people are allowed to vote for someone that's not them, so they gerrymander every state to keep minority control bcuz they hate the people actually having their say.
It stems from the fact that originally, America was supposed to be a confederation of states, and the smaller states with less population wanted to be fairly represented or they would not join the union of states to begin with. Now the system doesn't make much sense, because after our civil war, states don't have much power and it's more of a federal government.
@@FakeMailElectionthat’s statistically false. States have been gaining power for 60-70 years. Our constitution is gridlocked, we’re stuck in an outdated electoral system that makes votes unequal, and makes national amendments virtually impossible. Laws are almost always passed at the state level. A national amendment hasn’t passed in over 50 years for a reason - so the states have significant power while the national government can’t do shit without executive orders and super majorities in Congress. P.s. your bot handle is stupid. Stop stoking ignorance and learn some shit.
Just when does the Dept of Justice step in and protect voting rights, which are under attack in Florida, Georgia, Ohio and Texas, to name a few. Garland do your job or step down.
The DOJ has no jurisdiction on local elections. That’s entirely up to the authorities in the state. At this time, it looks like the Attorney General of Georgia does not look favorably on these rules and it may be that they are a violation of state law. The DOJ used to have authority, but the Supreme Court cut that out years ago.
Hi, Georgian here? Is there a way we can appeal this? Human error and bias is so real. And not knowing who are the ones counting and doing a second hand account to make sure the original count was accurate. There’s just so much room for error. How do we appeal this?
Funny when republicans said that they were told they were being racist. Why isn’t that being said here now? Funny how it goes one way. When it’s impossible to have a discussion about these issues because the administration has split the country! This is exactly what they want. For people to ignore the most basic part of counting ballots. Being honest isn’t in their vocabulary
It's a done deal, mandatory hand counts in every county to provide verifiable vote tabulations. These board member didn't make up this resolution willy nilly. They were presented with credible evidence that the tabulators are not flawless.
I've read comments from Tr - - p supporters on other forums who have insisted that the counting of votes must be done the night of the election. How do they expect that to be done if the ballots must be counted by hand _three_ times?
They were advised against doing this by their legal counsel. If it were challenged, the board would lose. Regardless, it adds to the confusion and that is also a goal.
When they go back to how they should be so elections can't be stolen again by democrats. I thought you people cared so much about democracy. This should make you happy 😊
Truth is the only way the Democrats will win this is by shady water pipe breakages and law changes right before elections that cant be argued before elections. This goes for Pennsylvania trying for Blue, or Nebraskans trying it for Red. Its corrupt trash. Venezuela has a more secure election.
Hand counting seems like a good idea to me. There were very serious problems with the tabulation machines which did not even read the marks made on the ballots, but a rather code on the ballot, so that no one could even know if their ballot was correctly counted by the machine.
The national mandate should be ID requirement at the minimum. What is the point of making us all get a ID or DL. If you are not responsible enough to get an ID you shouldn’t be allowed to vote. You can’t tell me that getting into a club is more important than identification to vote. People find a way to get ID then
They find a way to get ID because they want to drive. The challenge is when they require a government ID and close the DMV in some communities I’ve never known anyone who would not get an ID if they had access. When Florida passed the motor voter law you had more young people voting and since they tend to vote democratic some folks wanted to take that away.
Funny there's _never_ been a proven problem with American elections in at least the last 100yrs, but Trumplethinskin loses & the GQP couldn't take it.... they're about to lose by a lot more this time bcuz the masses are sick & tired of Mango Mussolini
@@cocoa105 it’s 2024. If you don’t have access to getting an ID you shouldn’t be able to vote. I mean illegals are coming and getting food stamps and medical care and a citizen somehow can’t make their way across town to get an ID .. it’s insane
When you register to vote, you have to prove eligibility and residency in every state. You are chasing 🐂💩 and appear to be yelling at clouds 🙄 like chicken little.
@@valleycardscollectibles859 No, he's not. He conceded defeat. Furthermore, he didn't have to lose in court 60 times or require a ridiculous amount of recounts. Try again loser
@@mhall801what's so hard to understand about this you vote on a machine the machine prints out a ticket that shows who you voted for and if there are any questions about the results then you hand count just like they did last time. The election wasn't rigged the results were the same. Donald Trump lost and you're just mad. Good Lord how many times did the cyber ninjas count their ballots in Arizona and each Donald Trump lost.
There was no rigging in 2020 but what they want is it yo be rigged so Trump wins. He cleary was not the wonner in 2020. Now Nebraska and Oklahoma are trying to rig itin his favor. Outrageous
If it takes a week, I don't care. Count the votes by hand. Match the hand count against the machine and make sure the number is right. How did they count votes before machines.
@nolongerblocked6210 i dont whats wrong with checking and making sure everything matches up. Thats what one would do when cashing out a register at the end of shift.
@taylorhession1905 you realize the more humans are involved in the count, the more errors there are, right? They only reason rethuglicants are doing this is to add chaos and confusion to a tight trace. Typical BS... right wingers can't win on ideas so they try to cheat
@@taylorhession1905 Sorry, hand counts are far less accurate than machine counts, and MUCH slower. And IF there were any problem with machines they can be double checked by a hand audit. So you will get a less accurate count, and it will take FOREVER because states do not have NEARLY enough workers to do it. I used to implement a software called "Teleform" that could optically scan documents much more complex than ballots - reading handwriting as well as marks in a bubble. One example was an insurance claims processing job we did. Doing it by hand took an average of about 3 minutes per claim, with a 12% error rate. Using scanning we cut that to under 5 seconds per claim with about a 1% error rate. With ballots the speed and accuracy would be even higher.
Machines will count the votes accurately. Human errors are the most likely outcome especially after a long day. You forget they are there for 12 long hours sometimes later, then they need to count everything by hand. Millions of paper ballots. sit there and count to 100,000 even and see if you don't make a mistake and have to start over etc. You can put the paper ballots through the machines over and over again to ensure accuracy. But you can't sit there and count to millions over and over again if you want the results of the election this year.
They were done accurately before & there was _literally_ nothing wrong with the way they were being counted before... except it hurt the cult leaders feelings bcuz he lost fair & square. He's about to lose again but by many more votes this time bcuz people are tired of his idiocy
@@nolongerblocked6210 So they machines are to be trusted and we shouldn't do a hand vote count because it might take a bit longer? I still fail to see how this will hurt anyone unless that someone is cheating.
@@noelbartley1084 it's illegal to remember that far back for the maga cult. Folks who voted for decades and never questioned the process. The world's grandest liar says there's a problem and they all just buy it. Incredible! The malleability of their brains defies reason
It’s time to move on from the electoral college. The reason it was implemented no longer applies to these contemporary times, it’s time for each vote to count!
@@noelbartley1084 nope. It's physically impossible to hand count millions of votes in 1 day. And that's if you're only counting 1 race on the ballot. Most ballots have a dozen or more. This time guarantees they won't finish counting for weeks. Is that what they want? That's what they're going to get
Florida does NOT count their votes by hand. Florida has a law that the votes can be counted BEFORE the election is over. This is just how their laws work. Many states don't allow any votes to be counted until the polls are closed. There are reasons for these rules and both sides have merit as to why. Sometimes if votes are being announced and counted before polls close it discourages people from voting toward the end of the day or is states in a different time zone. So many states just hold off until the polls close.
@@harryjove6725 Aw! aren't you cute. The answer to my rhetorical question is taxpayers and business owners. They will pay more for less secure elections and continue to pay more because the uncertainty and opportunity for problems will increase and mean more recounts. Since the effort to make elections less secure and delude their uneducated base, communities will have to do things like layoff police and firefighters, reduce hours to get public services (like building permits), reduce inspectors and keep their fingers crossed there won't be rat hairs in your take out dinner...That is your answer cutie
We must use our superior numbers to give Kamala an undeniable win. Do not allow the party of Trump and Mark Robinson to steaI a Kamala presidency from the nation.
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Lol...... USA, u need each vote to count, scrap the EC and you won't be this stressed every 4yrs. Plus it's about time the U.N. sends some electoral watchers over to help you out..... How the mighty have fallen..... lol
With all the artificial intelligence advances in computing accuracy, we should be able to model a system where every eligible citizen that is legal to vote gets a number. And that number can only be counted once. It's not that hard to do. Currently we have so many ways to fail in our system.
No AI required. What you describe is effectively what happens in several countries around the world. Every eligible voter is sent a card with a unique ID and you hand it in when you vote. One card per person. One vote per card.
It's funny because you anti Trump folks all have maga running through your head, all the time. If I didn't know any better I'd say you secretly admired Trump.
We should all support the hand counting the ballots. This is the best way possible to eliminate election fraud. We are going back to the future and relying on what worked in the past. Hand accounting of ballots should be supported by Democrats, Republicans and independence. This is the way it should be done to eliminate vote fraud.
because the likelihood of human error is higher if counting by hand vs digitally. it's why they use digital counting devices not just for speed but for accuracy. it's the 21 century. imagine having to count every single file individually on a one terabyte hard drive that's full of data
@@christhompson6010 Redundancy is the inclusion of extra components which are not strictly necessary to functioning, in case of failure in other components. The other tabulation is not being eliminated.
The people that have regulated elections in the past have done a dismal job at best. We deserve hand count, lots of other countries do it and on the same day.
@b.t.2795 the mailed votes went against our constitution. I know damn well the number the democrats had, was never actually legitimate that high on counts. But now the democrats complaing about this, cause they can't alter or change anything to cheat a win. This is the way the voting should have always been.
Trying to avoid more fake-burst-pipe situations (Fulton county), or cardboard covering the windows (Detroit), or mystery vans showing up at 3am (Philly). How dare they try to TRUE the vote!
@@frankdipadua7116 Every time trump opens his mouth, he makes it worse for himself. It's fucking hilarious. Keep it up trump. You will be in prison soon enough
I think they should focus more on the input side (voting) than the output side (the count). In Georgia, for example, you can vote without a voter ID by simply showing your student photo ID. While Georgia State law is comprehensive in establishing citizenship, that may not translate to the voting system. In Jul 11, 2024 - Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger started looking into this. In Pennsylvania you can simply bring a copy of your power bill. New Mexico does not even require any ID to vote. These are just a few examples because the process can vary at the county level too.
Remember when you vote that all this mess about our election is trump and his goons’ fault for not accepting that President Biden won. Do you want to vote for that menace? VOTE HARRIS/WALZ💙💙💙💙💙
Considering Georgia was one of the states that fraud was alleged, it makes sense to try and avoid that appearance of fraud by taking extra steps. It may be more difficult but how hard it is is not as important as getting it right.
Let's make history ..... Replace every Republican in Congress with a Democrat and every Republican in the Senate up for reelection with a Democrat. Let's move this country forward!
@@shuurrre How? At the ballot box of course. EVERYONE in Congress is on the ballot in November in their states and more than a few Republican senators are up for reelection in their states including Cruz in Texas and Rick Scott in Florida. Show them the DOOR!
You don’t want to listen, you want yo dream up a straw man to punch down? 🙄 Voter ID is okay as long as: 1) it isn’t a naked attempt to backdoor a poll tax or otherwise suppress voting 2) there’s nothing unfair about using machine counting. It’s very accurate & much faster. Under time pressure actually more accurate. It also in no way precludes a second counting by hand if it’s close enough to bother with that.
Come on man!!! It’s so they can stall & kick it to the Supreme Court….WAKE UP
No. It’s so they can kick it to the House of Representatives where Republicans will win.
Exactly 💯 stop sleeping at the wheel. Vote! talk to your neighbors!
It is not great challenge to design a fair election process , IF THAT IS WHAT IS WANTED . Unfortunately it is designed to be corruptible . Dysfunctional government and inflation are the playground of the wealthy , and that dysfunctional system keeps you poor and keeps them rich
They want it worse and questionable so it can be delayed and challenged. That what they are playing at.
Democrats are the cheaters
they play us for fools. WELL WE AIN'T FOOLS!
You're right
Then why has it taken up to several weeks to get results when using electronic voting machines, especially in swing states involving MAGA candidates?
@@mikedavis-ip5cx Recounts
Ummm didnt Rump complain that we didn't know the results sooner. This will delay it by weeks.
The only way Dems feel they can win is by cheating.
No it won't, lol. Do you know, most of the civilized world counts by hand? It will be same night, unlike your fake computer election of 2020.
And the normal problem with that would be, the winning team wouldn't have much time to plan the transition. Trump will call up his rioters.
@@signalfire6lol stupid
34 felony convictions and the count keeps rising. Why is this orange fool already in jail? I can't believe that someone who lead an insurrection is allowed to run for public office ever again. This all indeed proves that there are two sets of laws. One for the rich and powerful and another for the rest of us.
I have been in training to be an election worker here in Florida for a few weekends, with a goal to work throughout this November in the general election.
My SOLE REASON for this decision was in direct response to the threats of violence towards poll workers.
I won't be intimidated, and it isn't in my nature to be distracted by nonsense. I doubt I am alone in this pragmatism and I urge others who understand their civic responsibilities to get trained and come work the polls with me. Training is free and the pay nominal...but he DUTY is all OURS. Don't be a complaining bystander! Participate. Vote.
Well put.
As a neutral observer it seems ludicrous to change the rules last minute. There has been 4 years since the last election. Maybe I’m missing something. 🤷🏻♂️
the fix is in lmao
Republicans know they lose the more citizens that vote, so they always try to make it more difficult to vote. This is the same thing, the GQP just wants to sow division & pretend there's something wrong with our elections even though they can't prove it in a court of law. It's strictly to appease their cult leader
Lol it's just making the ballots get counted by hand. That's not a big change
@@wilbryesthow would hand-counting the ballots create a fix on the election
maybe you missed the fact the dems did it right before the 2020 election as well, or maybe you were just silent then...
I grew up in a middle class family, where I understood that the children of the community are the children of the community.. And what we need to do is to take the time to understand that the place we are going is the place where we have always been, and to keep going there..
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Wait, what are you trying to say?
@@Liliarthan I think this is what @carlosdanger6129 is trying to say:
"Talking about the significance of the passage of time, right, the significance of the passage of time. So, when you think about it, there is great significance to the passage of time in terms of what we need to do. And there is such great significance to the passage of time when we think about a day in the life of our children."
You’re wrong. She said “The community children is the children of the community “
All we need is 11,780 vote.... No problem.
“We couldn’t do it this year Mr. President. But, rest assured, we will succeed in 2024.”
@@publicuser2534what? Cheat😂😂😂
@sbm1989 it's great how you clowns literally just fight each other over perceptions 😂
Trump and maga will lose. The truth always comes out.@@publicuser2534
@@nameless-og nope just fighting you trying to cheat and act like you arnt. you know we can see you right
If Trump can’t be convicted during the election, changing rules shouldn’t be allowed either
@@jeffreycarota8548 what crimes were committed ? still waiting to hear what all 34 felonies are ? 😂
This is a free country, vote for who you want. If you want to vote for high inflation, no law and order, drugs and human trafficking, pro-abortion, free money for immigrants, bailing out irresponsible student debt... then go ahead. There is no law that says you have to be smart or have any moral principles to vote. Trump/Vance 2024!
He didn’t change the rules you dolt, this is how we always did it. This *is* the rule
You didn't seem to have any problems with states doing this exact type of thing in 2020, when many of them changed their election laws within 2-3 months of that election. Why cry now?
The left is big mad they can't steal Georgia again
Just think if Trump wasn't the republican nominee in 2016,none of this nonsense would be going on.
And if your aunt had balls she'd be your uncle.
crazy to think about how quickly this party became an one man cult. Even more depressing in retrospect i think hillary would have won if everyone would have voted for her who was democratic leaning but did not vote due to her scandals
Oh stop, Demoncrats would be cheating more!
That’s true Governor Kemp stood up to Trump and I believe part of this is to make sure no one doubts the results. It’s a shame that is happening in the midnight hour though.
@@LouisBartholomew-n9v you have no idea how changing the past effects the present . It could be far worse . Perhaps it could be far better too . Or roughly the same .
they waited until the last minute--
GOOD! PRESIDENT TRUMP MUST WIN 😊
Yup. It only concerns you when Republicans change back the democrats last minute election laws and rules changes for the 2020 election that they stole
Care to explain?
I wish every state would count the ballots
@@brianmartinez7530they do, this is about the method of counting
@Supremewin777 No he does not, Harris 2024
When you can’t win fairly….
Hand counting should be done in all state, as to avoid Cheating. US is not invulnerable on data breach .
You complain about secure elections like a Democrat.
... Fake a burst pipe on election night so all but 3 operatives leave for hours while you wheel out the pelican cases. This was captured on video, btw.
@@Gargeler - What makes you think hand counting by a vulnerable, error prone human being is superior to the cold, non biased non partisan workings of a machine? Since the 2000 Bush/Gore election exposed the antiquity of election machinery, orgs like the ACM, the Association for Computing Machinery, have been in the ins and outs of building and testing election machinery. Delving into the math. Delving into the vulnerabilities.
You just saying stuff makes no sense.
That's what Georgia is insuring. You have a problem with honesty?
Do away with Electoral College and make every vote have the same importance. Presidents should be elected by all people not a few states.
That will happen right after this country is racism free and the Billionaires no longer influence politicians.
Why do we have the electoral college to begin with? When you understand that, you might not like your comment.
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The presidency is something very sacred, it needs to have the right perspective, to help America and people around the world be free, it can be said that Kalama Harris is a bright candidate to be president in 2025, the queen represents equality in the whole world
As a Georgia girl I don't want any cheating here!!
There wasn't last time & Trump lost but it hurt his wittle fefe's so now you've gotta have your taxes wasted on this nonsense
@@Theleftisdesperate Trump's a shyt stain on America, why don't you follow him to Russia bcuz he's going to run there to avoid prison
@@nolongerblocked6210 explain the several hundred thousand ballots katie hobbs refused to produce and prove..
@@nolongerblocked6210they stopped counting then started up after observes left. If that happened in RU you lefties would be using to say how corrupt Russia is
Does calling Brad Raffensberger and asking him to FIND votes and tell whoever might ask " we recalculated" count as cheating?
Who pays these people, who voted for these people,,,courts have to come in ,,constitutes have to speak up ,what the hell is going on in Georgia
Justice beatch 😅. No more cheating 😅
100% correct. Excellent questions.
Hey dummies, other large countries have no problem doing such a basic task.
One ambiguous ballot and the Supreme Court is going to be deciding this election. That's what's going on in Georgia, and a half dozen other states. Americans are ready for democrats this time.
It's almost as bad as running a bad candidate that got zero votes in the primaries in both 2020 and 2024. The Democrats need to have a good hard look at their undemocratic processes.
Vote, vote, Georgians, like your life depends on it.
It does! No kamunism!
Find someone voting for the opposite party. Both of you don't go and win win 😂
@@DallyWinston69Trump was caught on a phone call trying to get Brad Raffensberger to steal the votes of Georgians in 2020. This action alone should unequivocally disqualify him from ever holding any public office again.
RED
Trump 2024!!
As a non-U.S. citizen, I find your system for voting to be so confusing and how you draw districts to create a certain outcome is crazy.
Republicans hate that people are allowed to vote for someone that's not them, so they gerrymander every state to keep minority control bcuz they hate the people actually having their say.
It stems from the fact that originally, America was supposed to be a confederation of states, and the smaller states with less population wanted to be fairly represented or they would not join the union of states to begin with. Now the system doesn't make much sense, because after our civil war, states don't have much power and it's more of a federal government.
@@FakeMailElectionthat’s statistically false. States have been gaining power for 60-70 years. Our constitution is gridlocked, we’re stuck in an outdated electoral system that makes votes unequal, and makes national amendments virtually impossible. Laws are almost always passed at the state level. A national amendment hasn’t passed in over 50 years for a reason - so the states have significant power while the national government can’t do shit without executive orders and super majorities in Congress. P.s. your bot handle is stupid. Stop stoking ignorance and learn some shit.
Just when does the Dept of Justice step in and protect voting rights, which are under attack in Florida, Georgia, Ohio and Texas, to name a few. Garland do your job or step down.
Bud you have no clue explain to me how hand counting ballots is in any way going against voters rights
Because STATES run Elections!
The DOJ has no jurisdiction on local elections. That’s entirely up to the authorities in the state. At this time, it looks like the Attorney General of Georgia does not look favorably on these rules and it may be that they are a violation of state law.
The DOJ used to have authority, but the Supreme Court cut that out years ago.
SCOTUS blocked that when they struck down the voting rights act
SCOTUS struck down the voting rights act
Hi, Georgian here? Is there a way we can appeal this? Human error and bias is so real. And not knowing who are the ones counting and doing a second hand account to make sure the original count was accurate. There’s just so much room for error. How do we appeal this?
Funny when republicans said that they were told they were being racist. Why isn’t that being said here now? Funny how it goes one way. When it’s impossible to have a discussion about these issues because the administration has split the country! This is exactly what they want. For people to ignore the most basic part of counting ballots. Being honest isn’t in their vocabulary
It's a done deal, mandatory hand counts in every county to provide verifiable vote tabulations. These board member didn't make up this resolution willy nilly. They were presented with credible evidence that the tabulators are not flawless.
I've read comments from Tr - - p supporters on other forums who have insisted that the counting of votes must be done the night of the election. How do they expect that to be done if the ballots must be counted by hand _three_ times?
How do you think we did it in the past? Y’all really do have short term memories.
I thought such rules could not be put into practice within 60 days of election. Please inform me!
They were advised against doing this by their legal counsel. If it were challenged, the board would lose. Regardless, it adds to the confusion and that is also a goal.
When they go back to how they should be so elections can't be stolen again by democrats.
I thought you people cared so much about democracy. This should make you happy 😊
God forbid they have to count the ballots
Truth is the only way the Democrats will win this is by shady water pipe breakages and law changes right before elections that cant be argued before elections. This goes for Pennsylvania trying for Blue, or Nebraskans trying it for Red. Its corrupt trash. Venezuela has a more secure election.
Can't stop Kamala Harris winning GA now. Good!
Hand counting seems like a good idea to me. There were very serious problems with the tabulation machines which did not even read the marks made on the ballots, but a rather code on the ballot, so that no one could even know if their ballot was correctly counted by the machine.
They are going to change Nebraska to winner take all 😡😡 that pisses me off
I LOVE IT! 😊
Who cares
Why ??? Wouldn’t you like it if California wasn’t winner take all ??
This ain't soccer child where a loss and two ties gets you into the finals. 🤡
Not yet.
The national mandate should be ID requirement at the minimum. What is the point of making us all get a ID or DL. If you are not responsible enough to get an ID you shouldn’t be allowed to vote. You can’t tell me that getting into a club is more important than identification to vote. People find a way to get ID then
They find a way to get ID because they want to drive. The challenge is when they require a government ID and close the DMV in some communities I’ve never known anyone who would not get an ID if they had access. When Florida passed the motor voter law you had more young people voting and since they tend to vote democratic some folks wanted to take that away.
Funny there's _never_ been a proven problem with American elections in at least the last 100yrs, but Trumplethinskin loses & the GQP couldn't take it.... they're about to lose by a lot more this time bcuz the masses are sick & tired of Mango Mussolini
@@cocoa105 it’s 2024. If you don’t have access to getting an ID you shouldn’t be able to vote. I mean illegals are coming and getting food stamps and medical care and a citizen somehow can’t make their way across town to get an ID .. it’s insane
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When you register to vote, you have to prove eligibility and residency in every state.
You are chasing 🐂💩 and appear to be yelling at clouds 🙄 like chicken little.
Hope the world can see the shenanigans going on here in Georgia.
If you are registered and you are legal your vote will be counted, problem?
The cult leaders feelings got hurt bcuz Biden curb stomped him & Kamala is gonna beat him much worse
@@davemitchell6281 who isn't ? got any proof of all these illegal voters? because the big orange slob couldn't find any.
yes and we seen them in the past a well., sorry dems are out
@@davemitchell6281 Or will it?
Trump just needs to do 11,780 days in Prison, which is one more than we need.
@@niclewis9610 you like kids having access to p*r graphic books?
Before Trump America didn't have this much ignorance involved in voting
2000? Al Gore is still crying
@@valleycardscollectibles859not even comparable.. gore had the decency to respect the country.. trump had an insurrection.
@@valleycardscollectibles859 No, he's not. He conceded defeat. Furthermore, he didn't have to lose in court 60 times or require a ridiculous amount of recounts. Try again loser
@@davidmcleandamrecordings3673False.
Facts!!!!
Let the machines count the ballots and if there is a challenge, then hand count them.
Machines don’t work. They can be manipulated like last time.
@@mhall801😂
@@mhall801what's so hard to understand about this you vote on a machine the machine prints out a ticket that shows who you voted for and if there are any questions about the results then you hand count just like they did last time. The election wasn't rigged the results were the same. Donald Trump lost and you're just mad. Good Lord how many times did the cyber ninjas count their ballots in Arizona and each Donald Trump lost.
“If” there is a challenge 😂😂😂
More like when
@@mhall801And you think people are perfect and incorruptible? 🤣🤣
Don't let it be rigged again!
Never was in the first place,,its all a lie for gullible people like you
The Republicans always cheat because they can 't win on their policies
There was no rigging in 2020 but what they want is it yo be rigged so Trump wins. He cleary was not the wonner in 2020. Now Nebraska and Oklahoma are trying to rig itin his favor. Outrageous
When was it rigged?
It wasn't rigged. Get your head outta your butt😂
Thieves panic when scrutiny arrives
If it takes a week, I don't care. Count the votes by hand. Match the hand count against the machine and make sure the number is right. How did they count votes before machines.
That's exactly what happened last time, they recounted _by hand_ 5 times & Trump lost. Cope
Well, you tell Trump that. You know that when he's leading even if only 50% counted he's gonna declare himself the winner and want to stop counting.
@nolongerblocked6210 i dont whats wrong with checking and making sure everything matches up. Thats what one would do when cashing out a register at the end of shift.
@@andymason9116 because it cost taxpayers millions, when the vote was still accurate multiple times.
They are trying to fix something not broken and actually making it worse.
Does no one remember when votes were counted by hand?!!! It didn't delay anything for weeks.
There’s only one reason you wouldn’t want voter rolls cleaned and hand counted ballots ……
With hand counting, we may not know the final results in Georgia for weeks after the election is over.
Vote for Kamala and kick right wing conservatism (or populism) out. Thank you.
Vote for trump and stop communism and socialism in its tracks
Boohoo, cry a river. You arent stealing this one. At least not in GA. 😂
First Georgia, next Nebraska and then Maine. The GOP can't play fair
That's fresh.....
Sounds pretty fair to me by hand counting means no errors by a machine or having a rigged machine no one is aware of.
@taylorhession1905 you realize the more humans are involved in the count, the more errors there are, right? They only reason rethuglicants are doing this is to add chaos and confusion to a tight trace. Typical BS... right wingers can't win on ideas so they try to cheat
@@taylorhession1905
Sorry, hand counts are far less accurate than machine counts, and MUCH slower. And IF there were any problem with machines they can be double checked by a hand audit.
So you will get a less accurate count, and it will take FOREVER because states do not have NEARLY enough workers to do it.
I used to implement a software called "Teleform" that could optically scan documents much more complex than ballots - reading handwriting as well as marks in a bubble. One example was an insurance claims processing job we did. Doing it by hand took an average of about 3 minutes per claim, with a 12% error rate. Using scanning we cut that to under 5 seconds per claim with about a 1% error rate. With ballots the speed and accuracy would be even higher.
@@taylorhession1905 or ballot dumping at midnight.
whats wrong with making sure things are done accurately? they seem so upset LOL.
Machines will count the votes accurately. Human errors are the most likely outcome especially after a long day. You forget they are there for 12 long hours sometimes later, then they need to count everything by hand. Millions of paper ballots. sit there and count to 100,000 even and see if you don't make a mistake and have to start over etc. You can put the paper ballots through the machines over and over again to ensure accuracy. But you can't sit there and count to millions over and over again if you want the results of the election this year.
They were done accurately before & there was _literally_ nothing wrong with the way they were being counted before... except it hurt the cult leaders feelings bcuz he lost fair & square. He's about to lose again but by many more votes this time bcuz people are tired of his idiocy
@@nolongerblocked6210 So they machines are to be trusted and we shouldn't do a hand vote count because it might take a bit longer? I still fail to see how this will hurt anyone unless that someone is cheating.
@@MattB86YT Machines were used before 2016 and there was no problem.Since Trump everything is now a problem
@@noelbartley1084 it's illegal to remember that far back for the maga cult. Folks who voted for decades and never questioned the process. The world's grandest liar says there's a problem and they all just buy it. Incredible! The malleability of their brains defies reason
It’s time to move on from the electoral college. The reason it was implemented no longer applies to these contemporary times, it’s time for each vote to count!
Yes,no electoral college they can't play this game again
Let’s get rid of it
No
They should help count the ballots
Love it vote 💙
Excellent……Bout time to clean it up at least a little.
Lol you people are delusional. Florida which is way bigger can count all their votes up in one day.
Does Florida count by hand?
@@noelbartley1084 nope. It's physically impossible to hand count millions of votes in 1 day. And that's if you're only counting 1 race on the ballot. Most ballots have a dozen or more. This time guarantees they won't finish counting for weeks. Is that what they want? That's what they're going to get
Not by hand.
Yes, Florida counts by hand also to ensure every vote is counted. We been doing this for years now. This is something that each state should do.
Florida does NOT count their votes by hand. Florida has a law that the votes can be counted BEFORE the election is over. This is just how their laws work. Many states don't allow any votes to be counted until the polls are closed. There are reasons for these rules and both sides have merit as to why. Sometimes if votes are being announced and counted before polls close it discourages people from voting toward the end of the day or is states in a different time zone. So many states just hold off until the polls close.
I can hear all the democrats across the nation biting their nail in a panicked frenzy. What's going to hurt more? Losing or getting caught cheating?
You're not smart enough to catch us & we're going to do it again & Trump's going to prison. Cry
@@nolongerblocked6210prison for what ?
Exactly!!
Please please my dear democrat amigos……No cheating
Removing my comments will not stop DJT from losing again
Repetitive perhaps?
@@harryjove6725He’s a democrat bot
they try....believe you me.......maga snowflakes....
Hahaha 3 comments in 1 minute eh?
No, but removing the corrupt democrat flawed election laws a rules will make Trump win lmao
Cry us a river 😢
This is stunning
Why?
There are more mistakes with hand counting.
But it might stop Trump from cheating in digital counts. We need to make sure he doesn’t cheat
And there will endless court cases, which is what the GOP wants
There are more eyes today, hand counting is much much better. US is not invulnerable on data breach
How do you know? If the machines were hacked, you would never know. A hand count can be confirmed.
@@KalujaFlizck Don’t you feel you may need to stop Trump from using digital to cheat??
Every vote should be counted period
Well show your damn ID.
Show this!!🖕🏼
@@lionman8523 Trump
Stacey Abrams still lost TWICE and Raphael Warnock needed a runoff to win. Keep making excuses for not winning in Georgia Democrats.
No trust just transparency
Keep it honest lol
Just count the dam votes, what are you democrats mad about? Count the votes. Let's have a fair and legal election.
Who is going to pay for these shenanigans?
Well Democrats will but the law will prevent them from implementing
YOU! You're paying for millions of illegals 😊
@@harryjove6725 Aw! aren't you cute. The answer to my rhetorical question is taxpayers and business owners.
They will pay more for less secure elections and continue to pay more because the uncertainty and opportunity for problems will increase and mean more recounts. Since the effort to make elections less secure and delude their uneducated base, communities will have to do things like layoff police and firefighters, reduce hours to get public services (like building permits), reduce inspectors and keep their fingers crossed there won't be rat hairs in your take out dinner...That is your answer cutie
Does it matter. We just hand out money to people who haven't earned it all the time
@@pmclaughlin4111 Democrats Schenanigans are failing miserably, we the people are well aware of them.
GOP: We're going to count the ballots so we know the election was fair.
DNC: No!! Don't do that!
Integrity matters. Nobody should complain about it.
There was no problem until Trump started lying!!!
@@elaineisabelle427 Name a politician that has never lied?
The south living up to those under-educated stereotypes.....
By hand counting ballots?!
People votes not electoral votes
popular vote doesn't matter and never will 😊
But of course it was all ok to change the rules around postal ballots in 2020, which clearly helped Biden win.
Republicans Never win the popular vote. Never
What? Cant cheat anymore?
Its going to be a right royal mess.
Hand Counting Results after the Computer Count will Certainly answer the Question, Are Voting Machines Accurate. Absolutely for it !!!!
The machines have already been tested as this gentleman stated.
machines can't detect illegal votes
people can
@@rockingredpoppy9119machines malfunction. It should be counted by machines and counted twice by two different humans of no political affiliation
@@MarshallBeckComedyHumans make mistakes too so what is your point?
@@MarshallBeckComedy Find another machine that isn't malfunctioning. Problem solved! Phew, I thought this would be a hard nut to crack, but I did it.
DJT only chose the best people 😂😂😂
Yeah and Joe biden Lmao 🤣
So you think the Board of Elections in this State was appointed by Trump? Now that is weird. But Dems are like that.
Votes should be hand-counted. Calm down and just count. People are lazy, do your job and move on.
We must use our superior numbers to give Kamala an undeniable win. Do not allow the party of Trump and Mark Robinson to steaI a Kamala presidency from the nation.
YEP 100 % AGREE !!!
Trump/Vance/Kennedy/Gabbard to make America greater than ever! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@@alil1971The world is laughing at your obvious stupidity.😂
PRESIDENT TRUMP must win or America is doomed. 😊
@@alil1971 Oh yea a criminal and guy who has a brain worm are going to save the country. How many times did you take ivermectin ?
Codify roe vs wade and ban chíld marriage🗳️💙. Protect C/SA survivors. Reproductive rights are human and survivor’s rights,🇺🇸💜women hold up half the sky🇵🇸🕊️Ⓐ☭🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️💫
This is literally insane. Like WTH
The term gun control should be labeled correctly as infringement .
Oh, upset your candidate will have a hard time cheating this time CNN?
I am gonna cry...😂
Lol...... USA, u need each vote to count, scrap the EC and you won't be this stressed every 4yrs. Plus it's about time the U.N. sends some electoral watchers over to help you out..... How the mighty have fallen..... lol
Go back to your Russian troll farm.
As a 70yr old US citizen, that very topic arises every 4 years, and nothing ever changes. You’re right…we’re behind the 8ball more than we know.✌️
That just what we need. Foreign election interference by the United Nations lol... just add to the corruption
In Nebraska, just spend a day with each of the three electors briefing them on how they will now vote like every other state basically.
Diaper Don will lose AGAIN!
Not this way. That's why you and democrats are so butthurt lol
I hope he does bcuz it will be dystopian and the last election. They want absolute power and control over everything for their profits.
You're going to lose princess 😊
Don’t pay attention to the hyphen bots.
@@NigelLouis-he8yc Not when elections can't be rigged lmao
With all the artificial intelligence advances in computing accuracy, we should be able to model a system where every eligible citizen that is legal to vote gets a number. And that number can only be counted once. It's not that hard to do. Currently we have so many ways to fail in our system.
No AI required. What you describe is effectively what happens in several countries around the world. Every eligible voter is sent a card with a unique ID and you hand it in when you vote. One card per person. One vote per card.
Yeah threats to elected officials is a terrible thing . But you don’t seem to care that Trump was nearly deleted twice .
@@tokageeboyou are a disgusting “ thing “. You aren’t even human
The fact that you cannot see the irony in your statement says it all! GTHFOH!
@@tokageebo It won’t end good for you. I promise!
@@tokageeboYou sound vAcCiNaTeD 🤪🫵🤣
@@tokageeboreported for promotion of terrorism.
"... THIS is your brain on MAGA. Any questions?"
Yes Michael. What gender are you today?
@@mattt5006 Lay off the MAGA, little buddy. It's showing.
It's funny because you anti Trump folks all have maga running through your head, all the time. If I didn't know any better I'd say you secretly admired Trump.
@@michaelccopelandsr7120 non binary
@@michaelccopelandsr7120 TDS stage 4🥳
They should do both to test the validity of the hand count.
Hey Bots'.
hi bot 🙂
Where's the evidence about the 2020 election fraud Trumplicans?
We should all support the hand counting the ballots. This is the best way possible to eliminate election fraud. We are going back to the future and relying on what worked in the past. Hand accounting of ballots should be supported by Democrats, Republicans and independence. This is the way it should be done to eliminate vote fraud.
Why do you trust the people doing the counting? They could be anyone.
They need to listen to their Secretary of State period.
Boo whoo . Remember punching holes in the ballot. Can we go back to that .
What's the big deal? Count the votes
Hackers for Harris are upset. Wonder Why ?
It's not about counting votes. That's the problem
@@richardleirer you can't hack into voting systems as they are CANs. Closed area networks lol
because the likelihood of human error is higher if counting by hand vs digitally. it's why they use digital counting devices not just for speed but for accuracy. it's the 21 century. imagine having to count every single file individually on a one terabyte hard drive that's full of data
@@christhompson6010 Redundancy is the inclusion of extra components which are not strictly necessary to functioning, in case of failure in other components. The other tabulation is not being eliminated.
Terrifying. Jim Crow lives on with people like this guy. Hes so happy.
Atlanta Georgia the home of 2000 Mules.
Which states changed their voting rules last minute last election? I know PA was one, but I don't know them all.
PA GA AZ
CNN is complaining, therefore it's a good thing.
The people that have regulated elections in the past have done a dismal job at best. We deserve hand count, lots of other countries do it and on the same day.
Lies lies lies
Don't blame me; I voted for Kodos!
Taking 2020 as an example, Elections are highly Scrutinized.
Trump has said he lost in 2020.
The GOP have 2 general election wins since 1988.
@b.t.2795 the mailed votes went against our constitution. I know damn well the number the democrats had, was never actually legitimate that high on counts. But now the democrats complaing about this, cause they can't alter or change anything to cheat a win. This is the way the voting should have always been.
It's all so they can refuse to cert
These maga cultist are so frightening as Election Day draws near. They know their orange stain is losing ground. 😂
Trying to avoid more fake-burst-pipe situations (Fulton county), or cardboard covering the windows (Detroit), or mystery vans showing up at 3am (Philly). How dare they try to TRUE the vote!
Blimey!!! When border czar Kamala is up by 7% then it will be a tight race!! Cheers
Kamala can’t do an interview without Oprah coming to her rescue
@@frankdipadua7116 Every time trump opens his mouth, he makes it worse for himself. It's fucking hilarious. Keep it up trump. You will be in prison soon enough
I think they should focus more on the input side (voting) than the output side (the count). In Georgia, for example, you can vote without a voter ID by simply showing your student photo ID. While Georgia State law is comprehensive in establishing citizenship, that may not translate to the voting system. In Jul 11, 2024 - Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger started looking into this. In Pennsylvania you can simply bring a copy of your power bill. New Mexico does not even require any ID to vote. These are just a few examples because the process can vary at the county level too.
The trumpster has the wind at his back and he's steaming home.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🫵🫵🫵🤡🤡🤡🤡
Keep sending all your money to Trump
@@nolongerblocked6210 TDS stage 4 🥳
You can't be trusted we need transparency.❤❤❤
Remember when you vote that all this mess about our election is trump and his goons’ fault for not accepting that President Biden won. Do you want to vote for that menace? VOTE HARRIS/WALZ💙💙💙💙💙
Are you better off with Biden ?
Considering Georgia was one of the states that fraud was alleged, it makes sense to try and avoid that appearance of fraud by taking extra steps. It may be more difficult but how hard it is is not as important as getting it right.
Keep up the pressure on the election workers. They need to be under pressure. It’s crucial that these elections are fair.
pressure just creates more mistakes
The only one making them not fair is Republicans
Why? US election counts are already fair with only handfuls of fraudulent votes nationwide.
Wrong, no pressure creates a lackadaisical environment where mistakes do happen. Pressure creates vigilance.
As a canadian, i am glad the us election voting started and can't wait until it's finished and stop hearing about it
What about the emergency rule's that were put in place in 2020 that are still in place???
Much of them are illegal!!!
Let's make history ..... Replace every Republican in Congress with a Democrat and every Republican in the Senate up for reelection with a Democrat. Let's move this country forward!
Forward straight off a cliff?
@@mattt5006 No ... HE'S the Pied Piper.
@@lindabingham6403😂 How?
@@shuurrre How? At the ballot box of course. EVERYONE in Congress is on the ballot in November in their states and more than a few Republican senators are up for reelection in their states including Cruz in Texas and Rick Scott in Florida. Show them the DOOR!
@@lindabingham6403 how does that make HE the pied Piper?
American shouldn't be worried. The Georgia electoral vote would not be needed to determine the winner for this election.
You guys dont want voters ID, you dont want fair counting. What exactly do you want?
You don’t want to listen, you want yo dream up a straw man to punch down? 🙄
Voter ID is okay as long as:
1) it isn’t a naked attempt to backdoor a poll tax or otherwise suppress voting
2) there’s nothing unfair about using machine counting. It’s very accurate & much faster. Under time pressure actually more accurate. It also in no way precludes a second counting by hand if it’s close enough to bother with that.
The Dems want the ability to run the table by means necessary