My mom lived in Wales until recently. Every year they had to drive out of the urban areas with their dog because of all the fireworks on Guy Fox day. Poor dog would be scared to death.
I'll bet Parliament going "OH MY GOD WE NEARLY GOT BLOWN UP!" did more to make Guy Fawkes famous, than if they were just allowed to light a fuse, that fizzles out, and we would now be having a laugh at this obscure _guy_ that thought he could blow up Parliament.
This, from other parts of the world looking in, it seems like a really goofy argument when you realize both parties have caused so much oppression and suffering
Not really, most people believe al conflicts have goodies and baddies, and in general, the goodies are the ones who they are aligned with to the greatest degree.
There may be a fewer of reasons for the decline of 5th November: More people are celebrating Halloween and don't want to do both. Dangers associated with the public setting off fireworks. A&E Deptartments certainly welcome the decline. Fewer large public displays. It's certainly more reasoanble to set of fireworks on 5th November than the American habit of 4th July because you don't have to stay up as later for it to get dark.
In Australia, November 5 this year was the running of the Melbourne Cup horse race. The first Tuesday every November. It is a public holiday in the state of Victoria and it really is the race that stops a nation. When I was working in Sydney everyone stopped to watch the telecast. When I was a kid we had fireworks night on the 5th. Then private fireworks were banned.
That's interesting. On my maternal grandfather's side of the family (Cox), I'm related (distantly) to Robert Cecil, James I's intelligencer and spymaster who uncovered the plot. Seems Mr. Harrington and I are on different sides of the table on this.
The show was terrible They depicted guy Fawkes as a evil psychopath which o feel more like he was more a radicalised sadly misled person also he may have suffered from PTSD if he had fought in Spain
@@timelordvictorioushonestly psychopath Fawkes was the least of its problems. It was blatantly a vehicle for Kit Harrington to try and break free from Jon Snow, and he spectacularly failed to do that. It’s a subject matter that might have benefited from some nuance that was sorely lacking.
What I always think of in relation to this is the samples we have of Guy (or Guido) Fawkes's signatures before and after torture. Despite having grown up Catholic, despite not really approving of blowing people up, the difference is truly horrifying and there is no way that I can condone anything that was done to Fawkes. This is compounded by the cruelty of his death. So I am glad that Guy Fawkes Night/Bonfire Night/Cracker Night is finally dying out. The time to commemorate torture has long passed.
Yay, more videos are always great - especially since planing to watch a 45 minute slog is often harder than just doing a quick 9 minute thing. Thank you and until next time. oh, and also happy birthday (almost 2 weeks late)
It was moved to the 24th of May in South Australia to reduce the bushfire risk but even that didn't entirely fix the problem and so it died a decent death after a few years and I don't think anyone really missed it. I don't think it's commemorated anywhere in Australia these days.
"You have heard it said that you must love your neighbour and hate your enemy,bbut I say to you you must love your enemy and pray for the one who persecutes you."
I had to chuckle at "masterminded by Robert Catesby." The whole plan involved kidnapping princess Elizabeth in order to marry her to a suitable Catholic. But they didnt know where she was and just roamed around the countryside before giving up.
When I heard about this holiday years ago I assumed it was popular because of the bonfires and general merrymaking, bonfires are always popular. We don’t have guy fawkes day in Canada so I’ve never seen it myself but I do love bonfires.
I always wondered what exactly were people celebrating on Bonfire Night, I mean, what is there to celebrate, exactly?! When I asked British people (mainly Welsh and Londoners) they would say it was the Gunfire Conspiracy, but would not be clear if they were celebrating that someone tried it, or that ir did not work 😅 Your video clarifies a lot! Thanks!
Happy belated birthday! "All thanks to the plague!" said in a cheerful tone is not something one often expects to hear, haha. Thank you for the informative video! I'm a bit sad to hear it's such a ridiculous holiday. Attending the Bonfire Night celebration in Lewis is one of my favourite memories of my semester abroad in England. As a Canadian, I only knew the bare basics of the story, but it was fun following the parade of costumed torch bearers bringing effigies down the street (they weren't fans of Health and Safety there) with firecrackers being thrown by the feet of watchers, and then seeing those effigies not just burn but explode into fireworks, and probably the biggest bonfire I've seen in my life. Maybe they should just do torchlit costume parades and bonfires and fireworks for Halloween instead?
@@jessicastein5155 Nothing is more ridiculous than 'Thanksgiving', thanking the natives for helping them take land. On the.other hand defeating foreign plots to create chaos is much more worthy.
Belated happy birthday. And thanks for a somewhat clearer explanation of the Guy Fawkes plot than I've gotten in previous occasional contacts with it. Being from the States, it mostly appears in the context of stories I'm reading written by Englishmen. It's not a well known topic here.
I feel like it stayed as a celebrated thing because it involves bonfire and public gatherings and takes place at the start of November, close to Halloween
I celebrate my wife's birthday. Remember when the professor of "Back to the future" professor asking Matty "I must go back to the 5th of November 1955, do you know what happened on the 5th of November, 1955?" In the cinema two people burst out laughing and all wondered what joke they had missed.
Thanks for a lovely video with a fascinating thesis that goes beyond "boom bad, bonfire good" and into the persecution caused by the blowback of this plot. Happy not-Fawkes day birthday 🎂
As an American who was aware for the story but was introduced through V for vendetta i never realized that the celebration was that they failed. I thought it was kinda weird there was a celebration for the attempted downfall of parliament. This makes more sense.
Happy birthday to you. As to this video it was an interesting intro for the actual history. I am a viewer here in the States, and I do have to observe I wonder if the only read this has even hung around is the whole Alan Moore comice, and how the image has been politically appropriated by some on the right, but a ton of folks on the left. The funny thing is that I think those that have appropriated the image don't even know what the history is behind the day or person.
Sad that so many of my countrymen know nothing of this event and were only introduced through the cinema, A fun fact is that it was once celebrated here in the U.S.,although the effigies burnt were that of the Pope. I may be wrong but I believe it was G.Washington himself who put the squelch on the celebration, as we needed more recruits for our armed forces, and he did not wish to offend any potential Catholic recruits. On another note, what a perfect autumn look you present. Absolutely love the sweater(jumper).
Yeah but you get a hell of a present drought between Christmas and your birthday. Mine is in late May, so that gets much closer to spreading out the presents evenly.
1:20 You clearly don't know recent the story of the American cop going gun crazy after a squirrel dropped an acorn, or I am sure you would have used that.
I feel like the bonfire tradition already being Associated with this time of year as part of the Samhain celebrations was a sort of secular adaptation of the holiday
The death of proper Bonfire Nights has more to do with the rise of Health and Safety laws since the 80s. The act about celebrating was repelled in the mid 19th century. It was more a tradition, that kept it going. I remeber massive bonfire everywhere and making a "guy". What happens these days is not even a shadow of former celebration. Yet another English/British celebration sacrifice on someones PC altar.
Very interesting. I remember my mum telling me about how they would make a 'guy' - an effigy of Fawkes to place on top of the bonfire. They would take the guy around the area and ask for a penny from local adults. Here in Leeds Yorkshire, the 5th of Nov. is celebrated with letting off fireworks at each other, your neighbours, the fire and ambulance services and unwitting students.. Not for any good reason or understanding of history.. Just because it's a laugh and something to do apparently. If you were to ask someone why they are doing it, they would answer 'cos it's fireworks night innit'
Great video! This is also why I am so unimpressed with the group Anonymous adopting the Guy Fawkes mask as their symbol, clearly taking their inspiration from the Alan Moore comic (and likely even more by the film) V for Vendetta. Humans, it seems, will execute elaborate mental gymnastics as an excuse to set things on fire 🔥
Christmas is not Christmas. It is a mixture of pagan beliefs and Christian tales of dubious validity and, if that Jesus did exist, he certainly wasn't born on December 25th. Does it really matter though? There are lots of differing elements that give pleasure or, to some, deep religious feeling. It can be celebrated for many reasons. Guy Fawkes Night is like that too. It iis part of British, well mainly English, tradition and folklore. It makes people happy. What is so wrong in that? Moderm Halloween has lost all contact with it's origins. I prefer the pagan roots but many people enjoy the modern way. Let them I say, even if I don't like it.
Bonfire night is a little weird like that. It feels timeless to be staring into a big fire surrounded by family and friends just as Autumn slips into Winter. And it is a few days after the old festival of Samhain. But the big bonfire celebration was Beltane which is a spring festival.
@@markwynne725 Bonfires reach into our souls. They have taken place in festivals for thousands of years. Thomas Hardy really describes it well in "The Return of the Native". When I read that book, 40 odd years ago, I could really feel the fire and the primitive emotions that it described. The memory of that description has stayed with me ever since. I love bonfires. They are a life preservers, magical and so beautiful.
Generally, there are much tighter regulations against bonfires and fireworks than there used to be and Britian is becoming more Americanized by the celebration of Halloween which often overlaps. It's not like everyone has suddenly realized that burning Catholic people in effigy might be bad optics.
I do love a "kill-joy" when it comes to pedantic facts over a bit of fun.I have always enjoyed Bonfire Night/ Guy Fawkes Night, purely as a way of remembering fond child-hood memories.You never see children begging "a penny for the Guy" these days. In fact Halloween seems to have become more "celebrated" by eager children. Anyway, I prefer Edmund Blackadder's sour-faced Puritan aunt, proclaiming: " cold is natures way of telling us to burn more Catholics" !!
No one really celebrates Guy Fawkes Day anymore? We've suffered 9 days of fireworks being set off, many so loud and continuous I thought myself transported to the Somme in the final week of June 1916. TBH I'd be very happy for Parliament to pass into legislation the public sale of loud fireworks. Not only pets are affected but also people with PTSD and aural hypersensitivity. Alternatively, in keeping with the actual plot, fireworks could be filled with spent gunpowder that fails to ignite. That would be cool.
There are two very good reasons to celebrate Guy Fawkes Night. The first is, he failed. A tiny group of radical revolutionaries failed to usurp the established and generally tolerated order in England. The second is he almost succeeded. A small group of radical revolutionaries showed us that we can get rid of an established but untolerated order. A message is sent to both revolutionary nuts and authoritarian ones. There is of course the third reason - setting big fires and letting off fireworks is tremendously fun. It's an excuse for a noisy party and upsets the elfin safety brigade no end.
During the reign of the Tudors and early Stuarts, England flip-flopped their "Nuremberg Laws" between Protestants and Catholics, depending on who was on the throne.
I have my own semi-annual ritual of watching V for Vendetta on Nov 5th. A poke in the eye for a fascist state movie was a good way to regulate after that pesky election.
I may be biased as a one of those filthy American Rebels, but I see value in keeping cases of people willing to challenge Authority in the Zeitgeist, regardless of success. Now I'm off to do my own research.
It's not too surprising that GF's Night (or Bonfire Night) is declining in popularity and relevance. Being that it's a celebration or commemoration based largely on an incident which stemmed from Catholic vs. Protestant conflict, and further considering how little religion in general plays a part in the lives of most people in the UK today, the whole thing probably seems rather silly and redundant.
I'm old enough to remember bonfire night being very popular and even then its political and religious roots were entirely irrelevant. It is waning more due to being sandwiched between the more easily commercialised events of Christmas and Halloween and the reduction of organisations being prepared to foot the bill for fireworks and bonfires and the dislocation of neighbourhoods that would once have come together to do the same.
Would not really worry about it Feel these daft kids don’t even no why they use fireworks they do it more likely just to be annoying .I hate it because it scares poor animals and wild life
Happy birthday, this was very interesting. So where did the Guy Fawkes mask originate? Was this something that the conspirators wore to hide their identity, or was it a later invention as the holiday evolved.
That mask comes from a comic called V vendetta @timnil by Alan Moore if it’s the one I think your talking about . In the comic the character V wears the mask .
My brother’s birthday is November 6th. Since we got the US election results the next day I told him we got him a wannabe fascist dictator so he could watch a 248-year young empire built on genocidal land grabs and the profit motive devour itself from within and accelerate the catastrophic global consequences of human greed in post-industrial civilizations. Of course I actually voted for the Green Party candidate
"He was known as King James the VI of Scotland before he became King James the I of England" A fact that I, a Scotsman, always throw in the face of the English when they say things like "We took your crown"
At this point the royal family is so related with each other I don’t think it matters . Also James treat his own people in Scotland very cruelty look up the Berwick witches for example.
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My mom lived in Wales until recently. Every year they had to drive out of the urban areas with their dog because of all the fireworks on Guy Fox day. Poor dog would be scared to death.
Thanks for this important video Cinzia, and happy birthday!!
Thank you! 😃
I used to wonder if the USA would eventually celebrate 1/6 in the same way. "Be wary, be wary, the sixth of January..." is as far as I got.
What happened on the 1st of June?
@@intergalactic92 They’re talking about January 6th. USA dates go month first instead of day. We’re weird like that.
I like the short format. Easier to fit into my busy days, but still packed densely with your own unique and creative brilliance. Every word counts...
I'll bet Parliament going "OH MY GOD WE NEARLY GOT BLOWN UP!" did more to make Guy Fawkes famous, than if they were just allowed to light a fuse, that fizzles out, and we would now be having a laugh at this obscure _guy_ that thought he could blow up Parliament.
Guy Fawkes proves that Straw Men + Fire Rituals = Societal Stability
@@IAmTheAce5 uh…. Yeah.
It is pretty silly how people think there's a good guy in the Protestant-Catholic conflicts in Britain.
I mean both parties did terrible things to other .and as recent events has come out The Church of England had committed crime’s as well
The Diggers and The Levelers and the Pilgrims for Grace
This, from other parts of the world looking in, it seems like a really goofy argument when you realize both parties have caused so much oppression and suffering
@@rabidpomegranate there is division in society everywhere mate
Not really, most people believe al conflicts have goodies and baddies, and in general, the goodies are the ones who they are aligned with to the greatest degree.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!! 🥳
Thank you!
Great video, Cinzia, thank you! I love the "nerdy" bits of history you share. Hope you had a great birthday!
There may be a fewer of reasons for the decline of 5th November:
More people are celebrating Halloween and don't want to do both.
Dangers associated with the public setting off fireworks. A&E Deptartments certainly welcome the decline.
Fewer large public displays.
It's certainly more reasoanble to set of fireworks on 5th November than the American habit of 4th July because you don't have to stay up as later for it to get dark.
In Australia, November 5 this year was the running of the Melbourne Cup horse race. The first Tuesday every November. It is a public holiday in the state of Victoria and it really is the race that stops a nation. When I was working in Sydney everyone stopped to watch the telecast.
When I was a kid we had fireworks night on the 5th. Then private fireworks were banned.
Yep I remember cracker night. After they were banned Guy Fawkes died very quickly
Kit Harringtons ancestor was Robert Catesby and there was actually a TV show made about him called Gunpowder starting Kit Harrington.
I never heard of that at all. Then again I've never owned a television so of course I'd bloody miss that!
That's interesting. On my maternal grandfather's side of the family (Cox), I'm related (distantly) to Robert Cecil, James I's intelligencer and spymaster who uncovered the plot.
Seems Mr. Harrington and I are on different sides of the table on this.
The show was terrible They depicted guy Fawkes as a evil psychopath which o feel more like he was more a radicalised sadly misled person also he may have suffered from PTSD if he had fought in Spain
Oh yeah I seem to remember that from my youth. Don't think I ever watched it.
@@timelordvictorioushonestly psychopath Fawkes was the least of its problems. It was blatantly a vehicle for Kit Harrington to try and break free from Jon Snow, and he spectacularly failed to do that. It’s a subject matter that might have benefited from some nuance that was sorely lacking.
Guy was an artillery man in the Spanish army, so I was told. He remains the only man to enter parliament with honest intentions 🤣.
That’s not true. A few years ago I went in Parliament to attend a human rights event. My intentions were honest and I’m a man. 🤣
He was a religious fundamentalist terrorist acting on a fatwa issued by the pope.
If that is honest intentions....
What I always think of in relation to this is the samples we have of Guy (or Guido) Fawkes's signatures before and after torture.
Despite having grown up Catholic, despite not really approving of blowing people up, the difference is truly horrifying and there is no way that I can condone anything that was done to Fawkes.
This is compounded by the cruelty of his death.
So I am glad that Guy Fawkes Night/Bonfire Night/Cracker Night is finally dying out. The time to commemorate torture has long passed.
Happy belated Birthday! Love your channel! Though the plot did not succeed as intended, Guy Fawkes still left his mark of the 5th of November.
Yay, more videos are always great - especially since planing to watch a 45 minute slog is often harder than just doing a quick 9 minute thing.
Thank you and until next time.
oh, and also happy birthday (almost 2 weeks late)
Simply amazing Cinzia. Great short format packed with deep dives. Looking forward for more stories and interesting dives!
As a Kiwi it's a very contentious holiday here too. But more because of safety reasons and because people's pets get scared of the fireworks.
It was moved to the 24th of May in South Australia to reduce the bushfire risk but even that didn't entirely fix the problem and so it died a decent death after a few years and I don't think anyone really missed it.
I don't think it's commemorated anywhere in Australia these days.
@@resourcedragon May 24? In Canada we celebrate Queen Victoria's birthday. We cheekily refer to it as "Two-Four," like the 24 case of beer.
5th of November is my birthday as well. Why I love V for Vendetta. Would love to go to England for my birthday.
1) Happy Birthday!! 🎉
2) The friends comparison is BRILLIANT
From one november baby to another, Happy Birthday!
Closest I've ever been to the Gunpowder Plot is V for Vendetta. First time I ever heard about it too.
Happiest of Birthdays Cinzia!
"You have heard it said that you must love your neighbour and hate your enemy,bbut I say to you you must love your enemy and pray for the one who persecutes you."
Happy Belated Birthday greetings. Excellent hair skills by the way, one's locks look wonderful.
Your voice is mesmerising. I could listen to it all day.
Happy Birthday Cinzia!!!!
Happy belated birthday Cinzia ^_^ 🌻🌻🌻
🎉Happy Birthday to my fellow Scorpio! 🎉❤
I had to chuckle at "masterminded by Robert Catesby." The whole plan involved kidnapping princess Elizabeth in order to marry her to a suitable Catholic. But they didnt know where she was and just roamed around the countryside before giving up.
🎉HAPPY BIRTHDAY Beautiful Soul ✨️🩵✨️🎉
Great Video as Always 💖🌸💖
Thank You !!!!
Great story Milady! I like this format too.
When I heard about this holiday years ago I assumed it was popular because of the bonfires and general merrymaking, bonfires are always popular. We don’t have guy fawkes day in Canada so I’ve never seen it myself but I do love bonfires.
100% agree we celebrate it here in New Zealand and have had fireworks going off most nights even though they can only be brought 4 three days
We have a saying in our house about Guy Fawkes and the Gun Powder Plot “ we don’t celebrate that he got caught, we celebrate that he got so far”.
"I know of no reason why the gunpowder treason should ever be forgot" ... well here are some reasons.
Haven't seen the video yet...
BOOOOOO HISSSSSSSSSSS
Edit Ive watched, and im still booing and hissing like a firework
I always wondered what exactly were people celebrating on Bonfire Night, I mean, what is there to celebrate, exactly?! When I asked British people (mainly Welsh and Londoners) they would say it was the Gunfire Conspiracy, but would not be clear if they were celebrating that someone tried it, or that ir did not work 😅
Your video clarifies a lot! Thanks!
Happy belated birthday!
"All thanks to the plague!" said in a cheerful tone is not something one often expects to hear, haha. Thank you for the informative video! I'm a bit sad to hear it's such a ridiculous holiday. Attending the Bonfire Night celebration in Lewis is one of my favourite memories of my semester abroad in England. As a Canadian, I only knew the bare basics of the story, but it was fun following the parade of costumed torch bearers bringing effigies down the street (they weren't fans of Health and Safety there) with firecrackers being thrown by the feet of watchers, and then seeing those effigies not just burn but explode into fireworks, and probably the biggest bonfire I've seen in my life.
Maybe they should just do torchlit costume parades and bonfires and fireworks for Halloween instead?
@@jessicastein5155 Nothing is more ridiculous than 'Thanksgiving', thanking the natives for helping them take land. On the.other hand defeating foreign plots to create chaos is much more worthy.
happy birthday Cinzia!
Belated happy birthday. And thanks for a somewhat clearer explanation of the Guy Fawkes plot than I've gotten in previous occasional contacts with it. Being from the States, it mostly appears in the context of stories I'm reading written by Englishmen. It's not a well known topic here.
Guy Fawkes was the last man to entering Parliament with Honorable intentions
I enjoy learning the details not just the dates. Good video
Great video as usual! Happy Birthday for last week🎂!!!
Happy birthday! Another great episode.
I feel like it stayed as a celebrated thing because it involves bonfire and public gatherings and takes place at the start of November, close to Halloween
@ronanodonovan3673 also celebrating the last person to enter parliament with honest intentions ;)
As an American I found this informative and insightful.
I celebrate my wife's birthday.
Remember when the professor of "Back to the future" professor asking Matty "I must go back to the 5th of November 1955, do you know what happened on the 5th of November, 1955?"
In the cinema two people burst out laughing and all wondered what joke they had missed.
Thanks for a lovely video with a fascinating thesis that goes beyond "boom bad, bonfire good" and into the persecution caused by the blowback of this plot. Happy not-Fawkes day birthday 🎂
As an American who was aware for the story but was introduced through V for vendetta i never realized that the celebration was that they failed. I thought it was kinda weird there was a celebration for the attempted downfall of parliament. This makes more sense.
Happy birthday to you. As to this video it was an interesting intro for the actual history. I am a viewer here in the States, and I do have to observe I wonder if the only read this has even hung around is the whole Alan Moore comice, and how the image has been politically appropriated by some on the right, but a ton of folks on the left. The funny thing is that I think those that have appropriated the image don't even know what the history is behind the day or person.
Well done, Cinzia!
Sad that so many of my countrymen know nothing of this event and were only introduced through the cinema, A fun fact is that it was once celebrated here in the U.S.,although the effigies burnt were that of the Pope. I may be wrong but I believe it was G.Washington himself who put the squelch on the celebration, as we needed more recruits for our armed forces, and he did not wish to offend any potential Catholic recruits. On another note, what a perfect autumn look you present. Absolutely love the sweater(jumper).
This was very interesting! Thank you so much for this video!
For me bonfire night was just a fun family evening, but I lost my taste for it when I discovered the school Fawkes attended has never celebrated it.
Happy Birthday. I always remember the Fifth of November, for it is (was) also my father's birthday.
Thank you so very much for the videos.
November birthdays are the best!!!!
Yeah but you get a hell of a present drought between Christmas and your birthday. Mine is in late May, so that gets much closer to spreading out the presents evenly.
It's still a fairly big thing here in Yorkshire, but it seems to be more in remembrance to Guy's attempt rather than a judgement against him!
Ok, but I’m still celebrating St Bartholomew’s day
1:20 You clearly don't know recent the story of the American cop going gun crazy after a squirrel dropped an acorn, or I am sure you would have used that.
@thumper8684 that mess was wild 😅 my boy was rollin around on the ground and everything
I feel like the bonfire tradition already being Associated with this time of year as part of the Samhain celebrations was a sort of secular adaptation of the holiday
The death of proper Bonfire Nights has more to do with the rise of Health and Safety laws since the 80s. The act about celebrating was repelled in the mid 19th century. It was more a tradition, that kept it going. I remeber massive bonfire everywhere and making a "guy". What happens these days is not even a shadow of former celebration. Yet another English/British celebration sacrifice on someones PC altar.
Another holiday that I barely even notice. But I was going to look this up as I'd forgotten a lot of the details :) V for Vendetta and all that
Very interesting. I remember my mum telling me about how they would make a 'guy' - an effigy of Fawkes to place on top of the bonfire. They would take the guy around the area and ask for a penny from local adults. Here in Leeds Yorkshire, the 5th of Nov. is celebrated with letting off fireworks at each other, your neighbours, the fire and ambulance services and unwitting students.. Not for any good reason or understanding of history.. Just because it's a laugh and something to do apparently. If you were to ask someone why they are doing it, they would answer 'cos it's fireworks night innit'
Great video! This is also why I am so unimpressed with the group Anonymous adopting the Guy Fawkes mask as their symbol, clearly taking their inspiration from the Alan Moore comic (and likely even more by the film) V for Vendetta. Humans, it seems, will execute elaborate mental gymnastics as an excuse to set things on fire 🔥
Christmas is not Christmas. It is a mixture of pagan beliefs and Christian tales of dubious validity and, if that Jesus did exist, he certainly wasn't born on December 25th. Does it really matter though? There are lots of differing elements that give pleasure or, to some, deep religious feeling. It can be celebrated for many reasons. Guy Fawkes Night is like that too. It iis part of British, well mainly English, tradition and folklore. It makes people happy. What is so wrong in that? Moderm Halloween has lost all contact with it's origins. I prefer the pagan roots but many people enjoy the modern way. Let them I say, even if I don't like it.
Bonfire night is a little weird like that. It feels timeless to be staring into a big fire surrounded by family and friends just as Autumn slips into Winter. And it is a few days after the old festival of Samhain. But the big bonfire celebration was Beltane which is a spring festival.
@@markwynne725 Bonfires reach into our souls. They have taken place in festivals for thousands of years. Thomas Hardy really describes it well in "The Return of the Native". When I read that book, 40 odd years ago, I could really feel the fire and the primitive emotions that it described. The memory of that description has stayed with me ever since. I love bonfires. They are a life preservers, magical and so beautiful.
Generally, there are much tighter regulations against bonfires and fireworks than there used to be and Britian is becoming more Americanized by the celebration of Halloween which often overlaps. It's not like everyone has suddenly realized that burning Catholic people in effigy might be bad optics.
A Happy Birthday to you!!!!!🎂🎉
I do love a "kill-joy" when it comes to pedantic facts over a bit of fun.I have always enjoyed Bonfire Night/ Guy Fawkes Night, purely as a way of remembering fond child-hood memories.You never see children begging "a penny for the Guy" these days. In fact Halloween seems to have become more "celebrated" by eager children. Anyway, I prefer Edmund Blackadder's sour-faced Puritan aunt, proclaiming: " cold is natures way of telling us to burn more Catholics" !!
Honestly, up in North Yorkshire, we just do it for a bit of fun!
Actually, many are celebrating the attempt itself!
I was planning to start celebrating Guy Fawkes Night here in the US, just because bonefires
We're Birthday twins! Happy Life Anniversary!!!
Happy Birthday! :D
No one really celebrates Guy Fawkes Day anymore?
We've suffered 9 days of fireworks being set off, many so loud and continuous I thought myself transported to the Somme in the final week of June 1916.
TBH I'd be very happy for Parliament to pass into legislation the public sale of loud fireworks.
Not only pets are affected but also people with PTSD and aural hypersensitivity.
Alternatively, in keeping with the actual plot, fireworks could be filled with spent gunpowder that fails to ignite.
That would be cool.
I want to celebrate it just based on the badass mask and the catchy saying. 👹
There are two very good reasons to celebrate Guy Fawkes Night. The first is, he failed. A tiny group of radical revolutionaries failed to usurp the established and generally tolerated order in England. The second is he almost succeeded. A small group of radical revolutionaries showed us that we can get rid of an established but untolerated order. A message is sent to both revolutionary nuts and authoritarian ones.
There is of course the third reason - setting big fires and letting off fireworks is tremendously fun. It's an excuse for a noisy party and upsets the elfin safety brigade no end.
So England had their Nuremberg Laws for Cathoics back then
During the reign of the Tudors and early Stuarts, England flip-flopped their "Nuremberg Laws" between Protestants and Catholics, depending on who was on the throne.
Not sure what you mean by Nuremberg.if it’s what I think your saying that’s a bit of a comparison .
I wonder if those Anonymous people actually know what the gunpowder plot was actually about.
I have my own semi-annual ritual of watching V for Vendetta on Nov 5th. A poke in the eye for a fascist state movie was a good way to regulate after that pesky election.
I may be biased as a one of those filthy American Rebels, but I see value in keeping cases of people willing to challenge Authority in the Zeitgeist, regardless of success. Now I'm off to do my own research.
Isn't Guy Fox the New Head of Parliament with a Extremely Short Fuse from what I understand
It's not too surprising that GF's Night (or Bonfire Night) is declining in popularity and relevance. Being that it's a celebration or commemoration based largely on an incident which stemmed from Catholic vs. Protestant conflict, and further considering how little religion in general plays a part in the lives of most people in the UK today, the whole thing probably seems rather silly and redundant.
I'm old enough to remember bonfire night being very popular and even then its political and religious roots were entirely irrelevant. It is waning more due to being sandwiched between the more easily commercialised events of Christmas and Halloween and the reduction of organisations being prepared to foot the bill for fireworks and bonfires and the dislocation of neighbourhoods that would once have come together to do the same.
Happy birthday!!
Happy Birthday!!!
even more than Christmas no body really cares about why the holiday is there they just like a bonfire and fire works. p.s Happy Birthday
Would not really worry about it Feel these daft kids don’t even no why they use fireworks they do it more likely just to be annoying .I hate it because it scares poor animals and wild life
Happy birthday, this was very interesting. So where did the Guy Fawkes mask originate? Was this something that the conspirators wore to hide their identity, or was it a later invention as the holiday evolved.
That mask comes from a comic called V vendetta @timnil by Alan Moore if it’s the one I think your talking about . In the comic the character V wears the mask .
My brother’s birthday is November 6th. Since we got the US election results the next day I told him we got him a wannabe fascist dictator so he could watch a 248-year young empire built on genocidal land grabs and the profit motive devour itself from within and accelerate the catastrophic global consequences of human greed in post-industrial civilizations. Of course I actually voted for the Green Party candidate
Well, im sick of fireworks and the morons obsessed with them, so yeah, it can just go for those two and many other various reasons...
well, i'll be...
...learn something new every day
Happy birthday!
Damn a fellow November 5 birthday!!! Twins!
Happy Belated Birthday!
Happy Birthday 😍
Never underestimate the political will to turn a molehill into a mountain!
Its a tradition, handed down the generations. Catholics are no longer persecuted and havnt been (in England) for a long, long time
didn't watch the video…
Yes, more of this.
Police Cops! Accidental or intentional The Simpsons reference?
Happy belated birthday!
"He was known as King James the VI of Scotland before he became King James the I of England"
A fact that I, a Scotsman, always throw in the face of the English when they say things like "We took your crown"
Don’t think anyone is bothered
I have never once heard an Englishman say we took your crown, nor as an Englishman have I ever said it.
@@mrandrews3616 I've heard _plenty_
At this point the royal family is so related with each other I don’t think it matters . Also James treat his own people in Scotland very cruelty look up the Berwick witches for example.