Currently, Twitch only supports AVC at ~8000Kbps. In this scenario, Nvidia's GPUs would provide a slightly better video quality. Soon though, HEVC and AV1 should become available to the public, as well as higher bitrates. When that happens, all modern GPUs will be able to provide that great a video, where it won't matter what brand you use. If one's streaming on TH-cam, this is already the case, as TH-cam already supports HEVC and AV1, as well as higher bitrates than Twitch. So, all one has to do, is target a resolution based on their available upstream bandwidth and GPU horsepower (e.g. 22500Kbps for 1440p with HEVC) and go for it. This is coming from someone who has spent a great deal of time figuring things out. Streaming is relatively easy now, compared to what it was a decade ago.
P.S. Upscale! Streaming at a higher resolution on TH-cam allows you to use more bitrate. So, even if, let's say, you've got a 1080p monitor and are playing at that resolution, you can set software like OBS to upscale that image to something like 1440p or even 4K. Upscaling + using more bitrate allows you to have less blocky artifacts, so overall, I think it's worth it.
Hello, need a little advice for the future, i want to start streaming, i'm going to buy a gpu and I wanted a 4070 super or a 7900gre, but I prefer the rtx because of the streaming part but you're telling AMD and Nvidia going to be the same soon ? So I dont know which one now xD
@@SoftFlyFR That's correct. The difference is negligible and will soon be nothing. I don't remember which of these two cards you mentioned is the better performer in games (aside from Ray Tracing. Nvidia is ahead in that department, but not everyone cares about it), but you'll have to look at what software you're interested in using too, and check benchmarks between the cards + compatibility. Just don't be scared to go with AMD, would be my advice. For example, a year ago I got an RTX 3060 and an RX 6700 XT for roughly the same price. The 6700 XT performs about 33% faster. Can't beat that value.
You just need a Ryzen 9 3900X to have a good quality for streaming and gaming, you don't need a lot of processor. Also, a 5800x is good enough. Using the "Medium" preset for the x264 is overkill, now that twitch allows to stream up to 8000 Kbps, "faster" or "fast" are very good presets. If you stream on Kick or TH-cam, you can use better encoders that will generate a so much better quality video at 6000 Kbps with that card. I still don't know why Twitch is delaying the adoption of AV1 so much.
I’m happy you used rust as an example since that’s what I stream, my question is my stream is great quality but it eats up my vram an it affects my frames drastically in game. What can I do so all my 20g vram doesn’t get eaten up?
@hopsaTV I'd definitely plan to do it. It's on my list of things to do. I'm working on a lot of stuff. Is there anything you would like to see when in the video.
The only thing i found Nvidia Better at was 3d Rendering in Blender and Ray Tracing, Other than that id prefer an AMD Card is best in terms of price to performance.
Tell me about it. I got an RX 6700 XT and an RTX 3060 some time ago, and even though I payed relatively the same price for each card, the 6700 XT gives me about 1/3 more performance than the 3060. I've also had a better experience in real-time upscaling in OBS with it, which was a letdown in regards to the Nvidia card.
My brother does a ton of coding and training models so I understand where you're coming from. He prefer Nvidia since they have more support and stability for those kind of tasks
So i have a r7 2700x and rtx 2070. I was looking to upgrade and really debating what i should get for a gpu. This winter i can getting at r9 5900x. But im stuck between getting a 7800x, 3080, 4070, or wait till 5th gen to drop and find a used 4080. I dont play ray tracing games. I do make content for ytube. So recording encording and good gameplay is a must. Anyone got good advice? Thanks g's
@yp1gaming 5900x is great cpu. I'm planning to get to 5950x since their 5000 cpu series are amazing. If you do TH-cam, then I would recommend nvidia, either 3080, from the third hand market or a new 4070 12gb since there is a great price to proformence. Hopefully, we get the 5000 series from nvidia soon.
If you're on a budget, go for something like an R5 5600, and put the rest of your money on the GPU. That's the best way to maximize your price/performance ratio. If you can afford a little more, check for deals on the new platforms and get what you deem best. You don't need high end CPUs to get most jobs done, and done well at that.
5600 is good but since he is doing TH-cam and will be doing video editing. That's why I recommend 5900 since it's great for multitasking. If he had a dual pc setup then I would do as you said a 5600 and 3060 12GB or 1660 from the third hand market.
@TechGrant yeah I have a x470 mobo and it supposts up to 5th gen ryzen. So ima get the 5900x it's only like $220 that is dirt cheap for a good cpu. For gpu. Idk yet mine still works and I might wait to get a rtx 4k series after 5th drops so I same money.
Currently, Twitch only supports AVC at ~8000Kbps. In this scenario, Nvidia's GPUs would provide a slightly better video quality. Soon though, HEVC and AV1 should become available to the public, as well as higher bitrates. When that happens, all modern GPUs will be able to provide that great a video, where it won't matter what brand you use. If one's streaming on TH-cam, this is already the case, as TH-cam already supports HEVC and AV1, as well as higher bitrates than Twitch. So, all one has to do, is target a resolution based on their available upstream bandwidth and GPU horsepower (e.g. 22500Kbps for 1440p with HEVC) and go for it.
This is coming from someone who has spent a great deal of time figuring things out. Streaming is relatively easy now, compared to what it was a decade ago.
P.S. Upscale! Streaming at a higher resolution on TH-cam allows you to use more bitrate. So, even if, let's say, you've got a 1080p monitor and are playing at that resolution, you can set software like OBS to upscale that image to something like 1440p or even 4K. Upscaling + using more bitrate allows you to have less blocky artifacts, so overall, I think it's worth it.
Hello, need a little advice for the future, i want to start streaming, i'm going to buy a gpu and I wanted a 4070 super or a 7900gre, but I prefer the rtx because of the streaming part but you're telling AMD and Nvidia going to be the same soon ? So I dont know which one now xD
@@SoftFlyFR That's correct. The difference is negligible and will soon be nothing.
I don't remember which of these two cards you mentioned is the better performer in games (aside from Ray Tracing. Nvidia is ahead in that department, but not everyone cares about it), but you'll have to look at what software you're interested in using too, and check benchmarks between the cards + compatibility. Just don't be scared to go with AMD, would be my advice.
For example, a year ago I got an RTX 3060 and an RX 6700 XT for roughly the same price. The 6700 XT performs about 33% faster. Can't beat that value.
@@Woodnsus I'm currently using an RX6800 and streaming at 1080p on youtube with HEVC. How do you upscale your streams on OBS?
@@AbyShift There's an option to rescale the image on the streaming settings. Just input the resolution you want to upscale to.
You just need a Ryzen 9 3900X to have a good quality for streaming and gaming, you don't need a lot of processor. Also, a 5800x is good enough. Using the "Medium" preset for the x264 is overkill, now that twitch allows to stream up to 8000 Kbps, "faster" or "fast" are very good presets. If you stream on Kick or TH-cam, you can use better encoders that will generate a so much better quality video at 6000 Kbps with that card. I still don't know why Twitch is delaying the adoption of AV1 so much.
I’m happy you used rust as an example since that’s what I stream, my question is my stream is great quality but it eats up my vram an it affects my frames drastically in game. What can I do so all my 20g vram doesn’t get eaten up?
Hi Tech Grant, are you going to make a guide to make a dual stream setup guide?
@hopsaTV I'd definitely plan to do it. It's on my list of things to do. I'm working on a lot of stuff. Is there anything you would like to see when in the video.
Short answer: NO.
I don't think you watched he said it was fine
The only thing i found Nvidia Better at was 3d Rendering in Blender and Ray Tracing, Other than that id prefer an AMD Card is best in terms of price to performance.
Tell me about it. I got an RX 6700 XT and an RTX 3060 some time ago, and even though I payed relatively the same price for each card, the 6700 XT gives me about 1/3 more performance than the 3060. I've also had a better experience in real-time upscaling in OBS with it, which was a letdown in regards to the Nvidia card.
@@Woodnsus Kindly Read the whole comment and then reply , i am rooting for the same team which is AMD -.-
@@andgoedu I don't understand the point of this comment. I was just sharing my similar experience.
@@Woodnsus i dont have to explain anything to you i dont care about your experience 👍
My brother does a ton of coding and training models so I understand where you're coming from. He prefer Nvidia since they have more support and stability for those kind of tasks
So i have a r7 2700x and rtx 2070. I was looking to upgrade and really debating what i should get for a gpu. This winter i can getting at r9 5900x. But im stuck between getting a 7800x, 3080, 4070, or wait till 5th gen to drop and find a used 4080. I dont play ray tracing games. I do make content for ytube. So recording encording and good gameplay is a must. Anyone got good advice? Thanks g's
@yp1gaming 5900x is great cpu. I'm planning to get to 5950x since their 5000 cpu series are amazing. If you do TH-cam, then I would recommend nvidia, either 3080, from the third hand market or a new 4070 12gb since there is a great price to proformence. Hopefully, we get the 5000 series from nvidia soon.
@@TechGrant thanks this helped me a lot.
If you're on a budget, go for something like an R5 5600, and put the rest of your money on the GPU. That's the best way to maximize your price/performance ratio. If you can afford a little more, check for deals on the new platforms and get what you deem best. You don't need high end CPUs to get most jobs done, and done well at that.
5600 is good but since he is doing TH-cam and will be doing video editing. That's why I recommend 5900 since it's great for multitasking. If he had a dual pc setup then I would do as you said a 5600 and 3060 12GB or 1660 from the third hand market.
@TechGrant yeah I have a x470 mobo and it supposts up to 5th gen ryzen. So ima get the 5900x it's only like $220 that is dirt cheap for a good cpu. For gpu. Idk yet mine still works and I might wait to get a rtx 4k series after 5th drops so I same money.