The mom actually lost 2 sons. One son shot the other accidentally so one son is dead and the other in prison for the rest of his life that is terrible.
*For me it was actually very strange. The last episode of PC I watched, was that other one one a few hours ago; I instantly thought, these are paid actors coz I remember seeing a picture of this same dude as "dead".. That birthday pic for his "girl" that same pic of him on there is the same one used on this episode right here...Since I watched this particular episode first, that's why I thought they were paid actors...(It then made sense after I saw at the end of that other episode R.I.P. Jovan..) Anyway, I couldn't remember what episode or season this one was. So I have been away from my phone a few hourz; I come back to bed settle for the night, usually I like to watch an episode or two before sleeping..I get a notification awaiting for me, I click on it and someone has responded on a comment I made on this very episode! I jump up like "Ah, oh my goodness there is that episode!" I was so dramatic you would have thought Jovan done raised from the dead and walked into my house lol!* Why do we as humans naturally have that morbid curiosity?
@Uncle Touchy wow well i aint making excuses for her but I can understand why she was sort of mean towards her childs grandmother...imagine u being excluded from all the ceremonies of your fiance, not having ur fiances family's support and them probly trash talking u etc cause they cud not let go or forgive u for the first child that u thought was theirs...at the end of the day, the mom did not have to treat her and her child that way knowing her son was a potential father to the child..I also understand that the experience with the first child made the mom also behave that way towards her but as people, we need to learn to forgive and move forward and yes that is easier said than done especially losing a loved one...but dang was visious to say "and he is all mine" and no when the lady asked to see her grandchild...she too need to learn to forgive and put her son's needs first...I pray they can move forward in a positive way
@Brian Why? Remember this..."Because it takes a Village". Oh, maybe you never heard that, but perhaps you might have heard "Granny" say she also still loves the little girl, no matter what.
She said she wasn't treated with the respect her fiance would have wanted them to give her. Where is the respect and compassion he would have wanted HER to show his mother?!?
Exactly. The father said he wanted the baby tested because she lied about the other one. She has to understand that her son died by the hands of her younger son. There were a lot of emotions going on with her and within the family because of that. She probably wanted to be comforted by her and his family but they had a lot going on.
@@lepporter6212 Exactly, she's standing there acting offended SMH... As if she didn't lie about the first child. The remark she made was despicable and I hope she never has to endure loosing a child.
Watch the 1st vidio-The Mother was messing with and preg. by the Father of her OTHER children, but she decided this was the best family. He was doing for kids -none of them his-but a nice guy. She was NOT a great person.She named that other baby same name as others, that Father put the baby on facebook as his- and she let this man think it was his-until she got mad and threw it at him every time- Not a Nice person. (Either)
I did to. She tells them like it is and when she explains things she explains them where you can understand the point. I click on one of these videos and watch it and haven't stop. This is the first judge that i can say i like and understand what she saying..😂
😯REALLY?!! Omg that's terrible & the worst thing a mother can experience.... My friend just experienced this last week, 1 son fatally stabbed the other son😔, she's still in shock
I just read the story on how his brother shoot him while opening fire on a SUV. His brother was so young now he’s going to spend the rest of his life in prison. I feel so sorry for his family. Lord 🙏🏾
Jovan wanted a DNA test for the unborn child before he passed, he said that himself in court in front of everyone, why is she so shocked that the potential grandmother took her to court to get the truth?! I mean, the first child turned out NOT to be his!!! She really can't see past herself in any of this situation.
Am I the only one that wanted to slap some sense into that young lady? Standing there and taunting a grieving mother, being disrespectful and rude, yet she acts like she grown enough to make rational decisions. I am so sorry for that poor grandmother.
while im not making excuses for her at all, she was grieving too. I get that the mother lost the child but she lost the man she was with and she shouldn't have been treated like her feelings did not matter just because her and the fiancé did not share the same blood. I also, get why the grandmother had doubts but he was in a relationship with this woman when he passed away. they were all grieving.
She's a hard learner. I remember the first episode and the shame that she had on her face when her lie was exposed. Now she's acting as if there's no reason to question her character when she has already demonstrated how low she can go.
@@sarahlu7797 I believe that's what got under my skin the most. She was cruel towards the grandmother. There's something terribly amiss with the way she interacts with others. I would stay far away from her.
This baby's mom is only concerned with her own feelings. Once that child gets older, he will resent her if she's the hindrance between him and his father's family.
She is immature. Sad, because she isn''t young enough to explain or justify that. No way will she allow her mother-in-law to get to know that baby. This will be the first and last time she holds him, you can be sure. She probably was unfair to the young woman, I'm sure there are faults on both sides. But both sides need to compromise and take one step towards the other. Sadly I don't see it happening - and as always, the biggest loser in the adult conflicts will be the innocent child.
You took the words right out of my mouth. She did all that to be evil, because if she was really about that life, the real father is dead and she could have just went on with life, but she knows deep down it's not fair to the child to grow up not knowing, but HER feelings are obviously the priority in this situation.
@@PhoenixHomeEd yes they can but we have to bring back the teachings to our young ladies to have enough respect for yourself to not stoop down to their level. Plus she lied about the first baby
I am sorry that you lost your little one and before he grew up . In this case , the sympathy and compassion is lacking from both women . One lost her son but the other lost her partner and the father of her child . The father of the child had obviously forgiven his girlfriend so they should too . They should have given her the benefit of the doubt until the results came back . The older woman is supposed to have more maturity . If I had been treated like that , and so very recently , by my partner’s family then maybe I would have been like that too . Long term I hope that they resolved something so the little boy has some contact with the dad’s family , which he would have wanted . His family need to grovel or they will get nothing .
@@BlackStump172 They had ZERO reason to give her the benefit of the doubt when she'd lied for years about something similar in the past. I don't care who they are, if they've lied about paternity once, I have no reason to believe they won't do it again. She may have lost a partner, but the bond between a mother and child is much deeper. We don't even know the truth about how she was treated after the death because the older woman never got the chance to explain her side. Maturity should go both ways. The younger woman laughed because the older woman was crying about her son, and that's acceptable with you? Her lack of empathy for a woman who lost one son permanently and a second son to prison temporarily on the same day is terrifying.
That hefer!!!! That baby momma.... wooooooo! She will reap what she sows! She is very disrespectful. Dishonoring the deceased man's momma and his memory. This is ridiculous!
To be fair, the grandmother disrespected her throughout the courtship and didn't include her first baby in the obituary. So the Mother is feeling disrespected.
I love this judge with all my heart. Her compassion for the little ones goes beyond her call of duty. She has a big big heart.. May God bless you judge.
Was I the only one hoping that he wasn't the father so that lady didn't have to deal with that ghetto girl? I believe the mom was mean to her, emotions are very high during the time of grievance. Planning a funeral, etc. But ole girl act like she wasn't there before and proven to be a cheater. The day a girl talk to my mom like that is the day y'all will see my story on crime watch. Lbvs!
@@sheridahines1185 Honey I wanted to slap her face when she laughed and bragged about her son not being here and her having his child. I only have 1 son and I am crazy about mine I can not imagine. I know I would act all kind of foolish..
Is she forgetting that it was her deceased fiance that wanted the DNA test. If he never died he would've been the one standing there instead of his mother. Too many times on this show I have seen mothers be disrespectful towards their elders. You say you loved the man, I bet she wouldn't dare talk like that if he was still alive.
Seem to me they all deserve each other. I'm only sorry for the kids. Have to grow up in that selfish environment. The girl know how that boys mother is. She's only responding because she knows what's coming down the pike.
I am so glad the judge yelled at that mother. I understand that she felt disrespected by Jovan's mother, but you don't have to stoop. Rise above it for your child.
I saw the first episode.. He was a good father to the little girl he thought was his... Too bad his son never got to meet him.. The baby's mother needs to STOP bcuz she was cheating on him with her ex so the gma had a right to feel how she did...
@@andrealynell89 my dear u r rite but dont u think so there is always A nice way to talk to ur elder.. Its just my opinion that her behaviour to the old lady was very Disrespectful....
The mother doesn't realize that her son is going to resent her from keeping him away from his father's family. She also needs to respect her elders and realize that the way she is behaving makes her look bad. I pray for that child.
Judge Lauren Lake is so talented at what she does...she has a way of coaxing out the facts with compassion and her wealth of knowledge.She is special and has touched more lives than she even knows💓
The baby looks just like his daddy. What a special gift to grandma and mama! The mamas need love, both of them. Sending prayers for a happy family life.
She's still gonna use that child to hurt that grandmother, she said yes mam at the end like i heard u she'll see him now but when we leave grandma bye ure not seeing my son. Just sad i cried for grandma cause i feel her pain
Does the Constitution and all States laws permit the grand parents to sue the mother in order to have the right to see their grand children? because here in Belgium we do have that possibility 100% and we also can ask for full custody if one of the parents is dangerous for the child.
Not just resent... Utterly HATE. The internet is FOREVER. The child will find this video & there is NOTHING the Mamma will be able to say in her defense. Just raggedy! RIP to the young man she cheated on.
Judge Lake is truly a compassionate and wise woman. I love the way she gives nuggets of lessons out to these hurting souls. Thank you Judge Lake for putting love into your conversations ❤
My baby daddy & I cannot stand each other. We just cannot stand each other. But my son has ALWAYS and WILL always see his father and his family. His grandparents dont hate me but stand behind their son which I understand. However, they LOVE LOVE LOVE my son & respect me. That’s ALL that matters! They tell me he is welcome any time! I’ve had to go to the ER when I’ve been sick and I know I can just go drop him off. Not only is my son blessed but I am too! This baby momma has ALOT OF GROWING UP TO DO!!!!
Erica Razo No amount of "growing up" can make any difference with a sociopath. I'm pretty sure that woman has never felt an oz of guilt, remorse, or empathy in her entire life.
This is how it should be! My brother-in-law's wife had an argument with my mother-in-law and they only let his side of the family see their grandchild on special occasions and not even guaranteed. She completely distanced herself from the family and my brother-in-law doesn't have the guts to stand up to her. No matter how many disagreements I have had with my mother-in-law I always tried to find a way to understand each other as they are very loving grandparents to my children and especially my oldest son's favorite person is his grandpa. The way she said no just made me cry. That was so sad. I understand when your mother-in-law is actually endangering the child by using drugs or alcohol, being aggressive etc ... but come on... she wants the child in her life. My grandparents (father's side) didn't want me or my sister after they joined a cult and I would've been happy for my only living grandpa to see my child (his first great-grandchild) after all this time of being rejected I gave him a chance. And he said he would feel it's too difficult. Now he is living with my cousin and her baby. Let grandparents be in the children's lives as long as they don't mistreat them! It means a lot to their child and their grandchild.
Wow I can't stand this chic. She is really being petty and selfish. She needs to understand it's not about her anymore, it's about that baby and he needs all his family around him as he grows.
I could understand why the Grandma pushed her away. The girl did lie about the first baby. So of course after the man died his mother felt some type of way. You can't go around lying about something like that and not expect backlash.
This ratchet heffa has a nerve to be mad at his mother when the father himself doubted the baby after the first kid was proven to not be his. Idu how she’s mad, don’t put that woman through anymore unnecessary hurt!
I’m so sorry the father isn’t around to finally see his first born and a son at that. It’s a pity because he was a very good father to her other kids and l know he would have been a very good and proud father to his own child. I’m glad the grandma has a part of her son. All the best to both the grandma and the mother of Jovan Jr to and their families. RIP Jovan Sr.😭
Why add "a son at that" ? Are sons better than daughters ? More important than daughters ? It's a horrid opinion to have, that men want sons more than they want daughters. So patriarchal & misogynistic.
sheilla jeptum *Thank goodness?* ★You think the "good fairy" has stepped in and this is the end to that roller coaster ride?★ Think again! *She actually said NO to her seeing the child and the only reason she said yes, was because of the judge and just to show on national TV before she left that she at least HAS SOME HEART! But when they leave this courtroom? It is clear as day that she has NO INTENTION of continuing to have the relationship w/grandma! I will bet you all my tax return check that grandma has not seen her grandson since this episode was filmed!* Oh, and just for the record, I usually get back close to 10 grand at that time of the year!*
YES! thank f*cking goodness that she found out that her son left something. That is enough to know. so yes Thank f*cking goodness. Now GYA out of my comment. coming at me like i am dumb. B*tch walk bye bye!!
She needed to be checked. She need a piece of humble pie. I would have doubt as well. It was no need to have angry towards his mother. He's mother was grieving. Olivia needs to grow up.
So the old bitty gets a pass? The girl didn't get to go to the funeral, they treated her badly but I guess y'all didn't hear that. You walk in her shoes and see how you feel
@@chinadoll4309 Once she revealed all that then I understood why ol girl was acting like that and she say her son loved her then she knew her son wouldn't appreciate her being treated that way. GMA does not get a pass from me. Respect your elders sure put if you keep poking the bear it'll eventually act you🙄🙄🙄
When the grandmother asked if she could see her grandchild and the mother responded with, “No ma’am.” I literally gasped so loudly! 😲 I hope they worked through it all and grandma is able to see the baby whenever and grandma and mom are getting along! 👍🏼
My mum cut all contact with my dads family when he died. 62 years later it still hurts and I’m angry that I didn’t know them. This mother will regret it one day if she stops the boy child seeing his dads family. Her fiancé wouldn’t have wanted that to happpen
This judge always touch my heart.Her compassion, respect,strength, beauty,intellect shines so bright for our community as well as others. Judge lake, Your loved out here.
She embarrassed herself the first go-round. I think she just put up a brave front the second time tho...People grieve differently...Pain hits people differently...I think she truly did love Jovan, same as I think she truly does love his mother...Prayers to all of them.
Both of these ladies are entitled to their feelings, I just wish they’d been taught how to convey their emotions more respectfully... but unfortunately this is so common...
This mother has no right to disrespect this man's mother the only reason why she was wondering about this kid is because u lied about the first one this woman put herself in where she is now not his mother
I Don't Care What The Mother Put Her Thru,She Lost Her Child Without Warning, She's Totally Out of Line And Very Selfish For Holding All That in,she doesn't know How That Woman felt,this Is So Toxic An Unhealthy For An Adult Let Alone A Child To Be In. I Pray For This Family.
They had just found out before he died the other baby wasn’t his and she knew it wasn’t his. Then before the could come back the father died. So there was a lot of animosity. But she should have ate that stuff, because she had played her son. If some woman played her son she would be the same way
@@game2572 that's just horrible.... She's giving herself away Like a free 7 day trial... She probably mad at herself and I hope she slowed All the way down for her kids sake...
The mom seems to forget that the first baby wasn't his and if that doesn't create doubt than what does. She brought the doubt and all that goes with it on herself. I hope she thinks about that and realizes how important it is for her cute little boy to be able to be loved by his dad's family.
This is the best judge ever.. She is Honest.. Insightful.. Doesnt play sides.. And actually listens and gives sound advice and is not bias towards men or women.. She makes this show
The babymomma is beyond childish is disrespectful. OAN: I wonder how he died. If the mom and BM didn’t get along when he was alive why would she expect things to be different after he died? They were in court and found out she cheated before. I think the grandmas doubts were valid.
That Baby mama is acting like she all that when she LIED about the last baby being his! That Grandmother has a right to question paternity, baby mama go sumwhere and sit down! Nobody owe your tail no respect! u happy u finally got it right! i hate the dad passed away..may God grant peace to the grandma🙏
Ain't enough hair in the world for all that flippin 😂😂😂😂 I'm dead. Clearly his mother pushed her away after his death. Too many emotions involved that's why no one can communicate!
@@charleschinyere I did lol they were on the show, while she was pregnant with the one that's actually his! In that episode he said, he wanted the DNA test on the baby she was pregnant with. So that was clear!
This episode really bothers me after watching the original episode before the young man died by his own brother. My heart goes out to that mother of Jovan for losing her son, and this other young lady have the most jacked up attitude for no reason. The fact remains that she lied the first episode and she has no reason to be mad at Jovan's mother.
Judge Lauren was on point today!!! 💖💖💖 the mother did not have to be so rude. Everyone is grieving and it’s so, so soon for everyone for all this to also be happening. So sad. Bless them all.
Boy...I have total admiration for Ms. Lake. I love how she keeps it real and let's the youth and elders know the error of their ways. Nothing but total respect!❤ We need more like her!!!!
I do think the man's mother gave her a hard time. It’s understandable and being an elder means nothing when you’re being disrespected. With that said the baby mama needs to do some self evaluation and allow her son to be loved by his grandmother
Like judge said the first time the girl lied that set the stage for this. Then giving her the wrong c-section date is sketchy. She should have said she just didn't want her there. They could have been got the DNA test done 2 years ago.
The son before he died asked for the DNA test, because he had doubt, she couldn't expect his mother because he died not to go thru with his request! If she didn't lie about the first baby, she wouldn't be in this predicament.. Ok.. So this time he did fathered this one.. So stop being a pretend diva! You started the problem.. Throwing it in the mums face her son gone but you got yours? That was very low.. Even for her because she is a mother too. But i pray she still allow the child to get to know his father's family or one day she will reap her harvest and it will be worse than what she's dishing out now! What you sow you reap. What happens when her son grows up and some women say he's father and she finds out he's not.. It could happen.
What a tragedy the way this man died. I feel so sad for all of them. Hope this precious baby boy brings peace to everyone and hope he gets protected throughout his life 🙏🏻
@11:56 when the baby mother said: “Oh he gone, now I can prove to ha’ (her) who I’m really is” 😂😂😂💀 - it’s clear that these two women have ill feelings towards each other, but I have to side with the deceased man’s mother because the baby mother lied before about paternity of the other child. The Grandmother wanted and needed clarification to see if this child was her son’s biological kid (and rightfully so). I’m just glad the Grandmother was able to see her grandchild in the judge’s chamber. I honestly hope they can put their differences aside for the sake of this innocent child.
I knew I wasn't the only one who caught that! I hooteeeed !! That woman planted the seed of doubt in grandma's mind. We understand that she's hurting too, but the situation could've been handled better by her as well. Typical case of eye for eye - "She hurt me so imma pop off on her too"... Judge had to spit some truth real quick
I agree she needed proof and that girl is a disrespectful mess but she shouldnt have been shut out before that proof was shown. That baby will never see his name on the obituary of his fathers funeral, the fiance was unable to see her dead fiance's body, it's all very unfair
How are you so cocky on the second go around...when you were wrong on the first child being tested...get humble
No class, no conscience or shame that's how
She don't know what it means to get humble!!!
Ok sis
She actually hadn’t slept with anybody else that time? That’s my guess.
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Lord, please do not let my son come across such nasty human being ..
Right! same here and he only 10
Amen to that!!
lol
Amen
OK keni
She so heartless treating a woman who lost a son like this. She never really love the guy in question.
Charity Asuquo I'm pretty sure this female is not capable of loving anyone. Sociopath.
The mom actually lost 2 sons. One son shot the other accidentally so one son is dead and the other in prison for the rest of his life that is terrible.
Little Jovan looks just like his grandma!
She too is hurt
It's just that he ain't here no more so respect has left the building
Who just ran over here from their first appearance?
I ran 🏃🏾♀️🏃🏾♀️🏃🏾♀️
*For me it was actually very strange. The last episode of PC I watched, was that other one one a few hours ago; I instantly thought, these are paid actors coz I remember seeing a picture of this same dude as "dead".. That birthday pic for his "girl" that same pic of him on there is the same one used on this episode right here...Since I watched this particular episode first, that's why I thought they were paid actors...(It then made sense after I saw at the end of that other episode R.I.P. Jovan..) Anyway, I couldn't remember what episode or season this one was. So I have been away from my phone a few hourz; I come back to bed settle for the night, usually I like to watch an episode or two before sleeping..I get a notification awaiting for me, I click on it and someone has responded on a comment I made on this very episode! I jump up like "Ah, oh my goodness there is that episode!" I was so dramatic you would have thought Jovan done raised from the dead and walked into my house lol!*
Why do we as humans naturally have that morbid curiosity?
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Speed race over😂😂
Me!!!!!
That baby momma is an arrogant, disrespectful woman. Her attitude in the courtroom is uncalled for.
She's ignorant.
We don’t know why she feels the way she does. She loss someone she loves as well.
@Uncle Touchy wow well i aint making excuses for her but I can understand why she was sort of mean towards her childs grandmother...imagine u being excluded from all the ceremonies of your fiance, not having ur fiances family's support and them probly trash talking u etc cause they cud not let go or forgive u for the first child that u thought was theirs...at the end of the day, the mom did not have to treat her and her child that way knowing her son was a potential father to the child..I also understand that the experience with the first child made the mom also behave that way towards her but as people, we need to learn to forgive and move forward and yes that is easier said than done especially losing a loved one...but dang was visious to say "and he is all mine" and no when the lady asked to see her grandchild...she too need to learn to forgive and put her son's needs first...I pray they can move forward in a positive way
@Brian Why? Remember this..."Because it takes a Village".
Oh, maybe you never heard that, but perhaps you might have heard "Granny" say she also still loves the little girl, no matter what.
Nobody real cares about how she feels cause she don’t care about how this dudes momma feels regarding the loss of her son
She really needs to humble herself, before the Lord does!
Very well said...before the LORD does!
I'd argue the lord done tried to humble her & it didn't work. She is just a foul individual.
Amen 🙏
Wonderfully Commented. FACT
Juicy you better preach
She doesn't want to deal with the grandmother because the grandmother doesn't hesitate to call her out for all her lies
She’s the devil. She hates holy water.
True!!
That part
True story
Grandma lost her son and wanted truth. Grandma is a good woman
She said she wasn't treated with the respect her fiance would have wanted them to give her. Where is the respect and compassion he would have wanted HER to show his mother?!?
Exactly. The father said he wanted the baby tested because she lied about the other one. She has to understand that her son died by the hands of her younger son. There were a lot of emotions going on with her and within the family because of that. She probably wanted to be comforted by her and his family but they had a lot going on.
she is the type of person who wants respect, but doesn't give respect to others
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@@lepporter6212
Exactly, she's standing there acting offended SMH... As if she didn't lie about the first child.
The remark she made was despicable and I hope she never has to endure loosing a child.
Watch the 1st vidio-The Mother was messing with and preg. by the Father of her OTHER children, but she decided this was the best family. He was doing for kids -none of them his-but a nice guy. She was NOT a great person.She named that other baby same name as others, that Father put the baby on facebook as his- and she let this man think it was his-until she got mad and threw it at him every time- Not a Nice person. (Either)
She is really mad she didn’t get respect when she DOESN’T respect herself.
You know your rude, when Judge Lake goes off on you. She even yelled at her politely. I love her wisdom and respect she shows to each situation
Kayla Fesperman yes!
I did to. She tells them like it is and when she explains things she explains them where you can understand the point. I click on one of these videos and watch it and haven't stop. This is the first judge that i can say i like and understand what she saying..😂
The judge is educated, I don’t know how she stands some of these people!!!
@@francinelatorraca8885 birds of a feather 🪶
Then she has the nerve to throw her fake hair, and laugh when Judge said the mom only has a picture frame.
He was killed by his own brother, so this woman lost two of her kids and she’s treating her like dirt. Where’s the compassion?
My Lord
😯REALLY?!! Omg that's terrible & the worst thing a mother can experience.... My friend just experienced this last week, 1 son fatally stabbed the other son😔, she's still in shock
I just read the story on how his brother shoot him while opening fire on a SUV. His brother was so young now he’s going to spend the rest of his life in prison. I feel so sorry for his family. Lord 🙏🏾
This is Unbelievable ,poor Children, too much Violence and too much guns,
Wow
Jovan wanted a DNA test for the unborn child before he passed, he said that himself in court in front of everyone, why is she so shocked that the potential grandmother took her to court to get the truth?! I mean, the first child turned out NOT to be his!!! She really can't see past herself in any of this situation.
She should have offered one up after the nonsense she pulled the first time!
Am I the only one that wanted to slap some sense into that young lady? Standing there and taunting a grieving mother, being disrespectful and rude, yet she acts like she grown enough to make rational decisions. I am so sorry for that poor grandmother.
while im not making excuses for her at all, she was grieving too. I get that the mother lost the child but she lost the man she was with and she shouldn't have been treated like her feelings did not matter just because her and the fiancé did not share the same blood. I also, get why the grandmother had doubts but he was in a relationship with this woman when he passed away. they were all grieving.
Tiger Mom ;» She is "not" a Lady , callin » her a Lady is like calling trump a wonderful person ..
Me too
What the grandmother did was wrong too
That girl would've beat the fire outta you.
Karma is coming to get this big nasty thang.there was a reason for his mom to have doubt.he wasn't the father the first time around.
exactly
I hope it doesn't happen to her babies. But she needs to get humble.
Grandmother needs to be respectful also.
Preach👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
This mother is going to use the child to hurt grandma over & over again. Grandma should just step away and let them be.
They're all getting along
I agree 100 per cent.
No way I would ever give up on one of my grandchildren.
Grandma needs to get full custody if this precious baby boy. He deserves a better mama, How you treat a grieving mother like that. SMDH😡
Yes she looks like the type and that's what I would do, step away
She's a hard learner. I remember the first episode and the shame that she had on her face when her lie was exposed. Now she's acting as if there's no reason to question her character when she has already demonstrated how low she can go.
And that’s what’s crazy about it.
Absolutely, she has no compassion for the Grandmother SMH 🤦
@@lyricistdean It's insane! But that's a narcissistic mind at work. Devoid of empathy for others.
@@sarahlu7797 I believe that's what got under my skin the most. She was cruel towards the grandmother. There's something terribly amiss with the way she interacts with others. I would stay far away from her.
@@hrmfocused5106
Right! I stay away from people like her.
UPDATE: Jovan is now 3, and he from the look of recent comments, him and his grandma DO have a relationship!
Thank you Ashley for that. It does a grandma's (like myself) soul good to hear that. :-)
Thanks Ashley, I was prayin' hearts would soften.
How you know?
I wish my baby’s grandma loved her.
@@vaw796 how was her son killed?
She feeling herself with all that weave. Just nasty.
The short cut was nice
FACTS
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Heather Cline I think the short cut was a wig, too.
Right when we seen her other pics 🤣😂
This baby's mom is only concerned with her own feelings. Once that child gets older, he will resent her if she's the hindrance between him and his father's family.
She is immature. Sad, because she isn''t young enough to explain or justify that. No way will she allow her mother-in-law to get to know that baby. This will be the first and last time she holds him, you can be sure. She probably was unfair to the young woman, I'm sure there are faults on both sides. But both sides need to compromise and take one step towards the other. Sadly I don't see it happening - and as always, the biggest loser in the adult conflicts will be the innocent child.
Yes very self centered, like she wanted the family to flock around her for carrying "his" baby even through her track record said otherwise
Bose
YEP
You took the words right out of my mouth. She did all that to be evil, because if she was really about that life, the real father is dead and she could have just went on with life, but she knows deep down it's not fair to the child to grow up not knowing, but HER feelings are obviously the priority in this situation.
Why do these baby mamas have to be so cruel to the elders? Smh.
True 2This they raised with hood mentality manners and respect don’t exist there
Mother's In Law can be serious pricks. We don't know their history.
Riiight like who raised these broads man
*No respect*
@@PhoenixHomeEd yes they can but we have to bring back the teachings to our young ladies to have enough respect for yourself to not stoop down to their level. Plus she lied about the first baby
This lady is the devil! As a mother who has lost a child on his 7th birthday my heart goes out to her. The lack sympathy and compassion is sickening!!
I am so sorry for your loss
I am sorry that you lost your little one and before he grew up . In this case , the sympathy and compassion is lacking from both women . One lost her son but the other lost her partner and the father of her child . The father of the child had obviously forgiven his girlfriend so they should too . They should have given her the benefit of the doubt until the results came back . The older woman is supposed to have more maturity . If I had been treated like that , and so very recently , by my partner’s family then maybe I would have been like that too . Long term I hope that they resolved something so the little boy has some contact with the dad’s family , which he would have wanted . His family need to grovel or they will get nothing .
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@@BlackStump172 They had ZERO reason to give her the benefit of the doubt when she'd lied for years about something similar in the past. I don't care who they are, if they've lied about paternity once, I have no reason to believe they won't do it again. She may have lost a partner, but the bond between a mother and child is much deeper. We don't even know the truth about how she was treated after the death because the older woman never got the chance to explain her side. Maturity should go both ways. The younger woman laughed because the older woman was crying about her son, and that's acceptable with you? Her lack of empathy for a woman who lost one son permanently and a second son to prison temporarily on the same day is terrifying.
She's not a lady, she's a selfish, nasty piece of work. I'm so sorry for his bereaved mother 😥😥😥
That hefer!!!! That baby momma.... wooooooo! She will reap what she sows! She is very disrespectful. Dishonoring the deceased man's momma and his memory. This is ridiculous!
To be fair, the grandmother disrespected her throughout the courtship and didn't include her first baby in the obituary. So the Mother is feeling disrespected.
I thought the first baby wasn't his child.... why should the child be in the obituary if it wasn't his.
@@filmtressmu8552 the first baby wasn't his.
yes
TONIA talking too much. She's talking about respect?? Does she have one? She too big to be respect fuel
I love Judge Lauren her wisdom is so valuable
I know right
I totally agree with. I am in love with her. She is Amazing.
Jessica Merrill me to
Jessica Merrill
And I just thought that she acted incredibly unprofessional to say the least. undignified comes to mind, too.
How so?
I love this judge with all my heart. Her compassion for the little ones goes beyond her call of duty. She has a big big heart.. May God bless you judge.
Was I the only one hoping that he wasn't the father so that lady didn't have to deal with that ghetto girl? I believe the mom was mean to her, emotions are very high during the time of grievance. Planning a funeral, etc. But ole girl act like she wasn't there before and proven to be a cheater. The day a girl talk to my mom like that is the day y'all will see my story on crime watch. Lbvs!
Wished the same...
Me too , His mother didn't deserve all that. If that was my mother and brother smh I would not be able to act right...
@@deecee1856 ikr...she was so disrespectful
@@sheridahines1185 Honey I wanted to slap her face when she laughed and bragged about her son not being here and her having his child. I only have 1 son and I am crazy about mine I can not imagine. I know I would act all kind of foolish..
Sadly I was hoping the same. I didn’t want to admit it because kids need their family but man she didn’t deserve the way the BM was speaking to her.
Is she forgetting that it was her deceased fiance that wanted the DNA test. If he never died he would've been the one standing there instead of his mother. Too many times on this show I have seen mothers be disrespectful towards their elders. You say you loved the man, I bet she wouldn't dare talk like that if he was still alive.
Seem to me they all deserve each other. I'm only sorry for the kids. Have to grow up in that selfish environment. The girl know how that boys mother is. She's only responding because she knows what's coming down the pike.
I remember watching this case when the son was alive so sad R.I.P to him
I am so glad the judge yelled at that mother. I understand that she felt disrespected by Jovan's mother, but you don't have to stoop. Rise above it for your child.
Thanks
That young women’s day is coming. You don’t disrespect your elders like that.
Me Davis
You are completely right. ..
Me Davis respect is earned not given... so with that being said, the grandmother has to give respect too!
She in the wrong both of them. Shw shouldn't be in their business. Find o out the results and keep moving
yes
Me Davis right
I saw the first episode.. He was a good father to the little girl he thought was his... Too bad his son never got to meet him.. The baby's mother needs to STOP bcuz she was cheating on him with her ex so the gma had a right to feel how she did...
cute baby but his mother is so rude and irritating
Yes dear, she don't have respect
Seriously did you hear why she's so bitter
Pooja Martolia you have to understand someone before judging them she is a strong women in the end her actions showed that
@@andrealynell89 my dear u r rite but dont u think so there is always A nice way to talk to ur elder.. Its just my opinion that her behaviour to the old lady was very Disrespectful....
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I agree with you
"There ain't enough hair in the world for all this flippin' you doing". 😂😂😂🤣😂
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This killed me 🤣🤣🤣
She's so funny.
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I am late but I was with Judge Lauren on this one. She was flipping that hair
That judge is so confident, level headed and wise, she should run for office
Elisheva bat Chanah America would be a better place, let the church say amen 🙏
She is a special gift from God, Judge Lauren
Amen!!!!
Seriously though
The mother doesn't realize that her son is going to resent her from keeping him away from his father's family. She also needs to respect her elders and realize that the way she is behaving makes her look bad. I pray for that child.
She doesn't care. She has no empathy or heart. I feel sorry for her children.
This.
And she’s the type to keep the child away from there on purpose. The lady says she does it now so it won’t stop
Judge Lauren Lake is so talented at what she does...she has a way of coaxing out the facts with compassion and her wealth of knowledge.She is special and has touched more lives than she even knows💓
True
Yes mam
That's the truth 😜🥰🥰
The baby looks just like his daddy. What a special gift to grandma and mama! The mamas need love, both of them. Sending prayers for a happy family life.
Yes he looks just like his dad. So precious.
She's still gonna use that child to hurt that grandmother, she said yes mam at the end like i heard u she'll see him now but when we leave grandma bye ure not seeing my son. Just sad i cried for grandma cause i feel her pain
heygorjess aisha I totally agree!
Lynette Chew im from a whole other country so i didn't know
heygorjess Aisha.......not sure if its across the US but its law and a lot of grandparents don't know.
Does the Constitution and all States laws permit the grand parents to sue the mother in order to have the right to see their grand children? because here in Belgium we do have that possibility 100% and we also can ask for full custody if one of the parents is dangerous for the child.
Right. The grandmother can fight for rights to see him right I do hate that for her though.
His father was a good man, taking care of all her babies that wasn't his.
Kevin Terrelonge good man?
He may be a good man, not for taking care of someone else kids.
How do you know he was a good man?
Wasn’t he in and out of jail? A good man?
She keeps that baby away from his father's family, he will grow up to resent her.
Not just resent... Utterly HATE. The internet is FOREVER. The child will find this video & there is NOTHING the Mamma will be able to say in her defense. Just raggedy! RIP to the young man she cheated on.
Sooooooo much BROKENNESS IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY. ..it's beyond sad ...we need Healing
So much truth in your statement, it's heart breaking
No, lets not take this one case and make sweeping generalizations or total inclusions. EVERY case is not like this.
For real! These bad cycles need to stop
Maria Marcial » JESUS*SAVEZ
In every community
I feel sorry for that child, lawd that mother 🤦🏾🤦🏾🤦🏾🤦🏾.
ReRe T I agree you will have to pick your partners careful or you will have ignorant individuals in your life for eighteen years.
I feel sorry for all 5 of this raggedy bitch's kids
Judge Lake is truly a compassionate and wise woman. I love the way she gives nuggets of lessons out to these hurting souls. Thank you Judge Lake for putting love into your conversations ❤
My baby daddy & I cannot stand each other. We just cannot stand each other. But my son has ALWAYS and WILL always see his father and his family. His grandparents dont hate me but stand behind their son which I understand. However, they LOVE LOVE LOVE my son & respect me. That’s ALL that matters! They tell me he is welcome any time! I’ve had to go to the ER when I’ve been sick and I know I can just go drop him off. Not only is my son blessed but I am too!
This baby momma has ALOT OF GROWING UP TO DO!!!!
Erica Razo No amount of "growing up" can make any difference with a sociopath. I'm pretty sure that woman has never felt an oz of guilt, remorse, or empathy in her entire life.
This is how it should be! My brother-in-law's wife had an argument with my mother-in-law and they only let his side of the family see their grandchild on special occasions and not even guaranteed. She completely distanced herself from the family and my brother-in-law doesn't have the guts to stand up to her. No matter how many disagreements I have had with my mother-in-law I always tried to find a way to understand each other as they are very loving grandparents to my children and especially my oldest son's favorite person is his grandpa.
The way she said no just made me cry. That was so sad. I understand when your mother-in-law is actually endangering the child by using drugs or alcohol, being aggressive etc ... but come on... she wants the child in her life. My grandparents (father's side) didn't want me or my sister after they joined a cult and I would've been happy for my only living grandpa to see my child (his first great-grandchild) after all this time of being rejected I gave him a chance. And he said he would feel it's too difficult. Now he is living with my cousin and her baby.
Let grandparents be in the children's lives as long as they don't mistreat them! It means a lot to their child and their grandchild.
They both look so different from the first court case.
Ikr. Miss mouthy even lost a lot of weight
@@Franskie266 Well she was carrying a child inside her lol
Yes they do. His mother has aged a great deal. Understandably, she has lost 2 children.
I SAID THE SAME THING. HURT STRESS PAIN WILL AGE U
Very different
The young child deserves his dad's side of the family. Thank goodness Grandma is there.
She’s not human at all, she’s trifling omg. I feel bad for the grandmother and child.
Wow I can't stand this chic. She is really being petty and selfish. She needs to understand it's not about her anymore, it's about that baby and he needs all his family around him as he grows.
I could understand why the Grandma pushed her away. The girl did lie about the first baby. So of course after the man died his mother felt some type of way. You can't go around lying about something like that and not expect backlash.
This ratchet heffa has a nerve to be mad at his mother when the father himself doubted the baby after the first kid was proven to not be his. Idu how she’s mad, don’t put that woman through anymore unnecessary hurt!
I’m so sorry the father isn’t around to finally see his first born and a son at that. It’s a pity because he was a very good father to her other kids and l know he would have been a very good and proud father to his own child. I’m glad the grandma has a part of her son. All the best to both the grandma and the mother of Jovan Jr to and their families. RIP Jovan Sr.😭
Why add "a son at that" ?
Are sons better than daughters ?
More important than daughters ?
It's a horrid opinion to have, that men want sons more than they want daughters.
So patriarchal & misogynistic.
Best post. Ugh. I hate when kids grow up without a dad. And JoVan wanted a kid so bad.
One thing about it mama.... you can’t stop him from growing... he’s going to come of age and find his paternal family...
And he's going to hate her for not letting him have a relationship with him.
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when she said 'and it is all mines' my heart dropped......... thank goodness for how it all turned out. But she clearly is heartless AF
sheilla jeptum
*Thank goodness?*
★You think the "good fairy" has stepped in and this is the end to that roller coaster ride?★ Think again! *She actually said NO to her seeing the child and the only reason she said yes, was because of the judge and just to show on national TV before she left that she at least HAS SOME HEART! But when they leave this courtroom? It is clear as day that she has NO INTENTION of continuing to have the relationship w/grandma! I will bet you all my tax return check that grandma has not seen her grandson since this episode was filmed!*
Oh, and just for the record, I usually get back close to 10 grand at that time of the year!*
YES! thank f*cking goodness that she found out that her son left something. That is enough to know. so yes Thank f*cking goodness. Now GYA out of my comment. coming at me like i am dumb. B*tch walk bye bye!!
She needed to be checked. She need a piece of humble pie. I would have doubt as well. It was no need to have angry towards his mother. He's mother was grieving. Olivia needs to grow up.
So the old bitty gets a pass? The girl didn't get to go to the funeral, they treated her badly but I guess y'all didn't hear that. You walk in her shoes and see how you feel
@@chinadoll4309 Once she revealed all that then I understood why ol girl was acting like that and she say her son loved her then she knew her son wouldn't appreciate her being treated that way. GMA does not get a pass from me. Respect your elders sure put if you keep poking the bear it'll eventually act you🙄🙄🙄
When the grandmother asked if she could see her grandchild and the mother responded with, “No ma’am.” I literally gasped so loudly! 😲 I hope they worked through it all and grandma is able to see the baby whenever and grandma and mom are getting along! 👍🏼
She should be careful cause she said all mine but he can be taken away
That was so scary when she said that smh. I don't get why she was being so nasty.
@@kenya1067 just horrible
@@kenya1067 .
She did end up sharing in the end❤️
My mum cut all contact with my dads family when he died. 62 years later it still hurts and I’m angry that I didn’t know them. This mother will regret it one day if she stops the boy child seeing his dads family. Her fiancé wouldn’t have wanted that to happpen
This judge always touch my heart.Her compassion, respect,strength,
beauty,intellect
shines so bright for our community as well as others. Judge lake, Your loved out here.
I have never seen judge Lauren pop off like this . I love it , that woman deserved it . Ghetto af , stank attitude .
Smile , oh there was one espouse where Judge Lauren flipped!!!! Way more than this was. She exploded!
Cobra Kai which episode?
Exactly!
A lil respect goes a long way. This lady lost her son. How dare she...
WOW! this young woman needs a reality check in manners and compassion
I cried the whole show for his mother.. Tragic ☹️
Me too. This one hurt so bad
This ratchet rat is irritating, she’s holding on to something that can’t be redone smh
She embarrassed herself the first go-round. I think she just put up a brave front the second time tho...People grieve differently...Pain hits people differently...I think she truly did love Jovan, same as I think she truly does love his mother...Prayers to all of them.
She still doesn't know who the dad is. Trifling
I doubt she loved him. Obviously she doesn't even like the grandmother
Both of these ladies are entitled to their feelings, I just wish they’d been taught how to convey their emotions more respectfully... but unfortunately this is so common...
Flipping her synthetic fibers 😂😂😂
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@Shandra9000mail 😂
Victoria! I am weak 😂😂😂😂😭😭😭
"It ain't enough hair in the world!" OMG I love this Judge
What is ŵrong with this lousy girl who once cheated and think world is her oyster. Very disrespectful
This mother has no right to disrespect this man's mother the only reason why she was wondering about this kid is because u lied about the first one this woman put herself in where she is now not his mother
She had every right....
yes
She so disrespectful!
Judge Lake did NOT come to play today LOL
Shelita Dalton period 🗣
I Don't Care What The Mother Put Her Thru,She Lost Her Child Without Warning, She's Totally Out of Line And Very Selfish For Holding All That in,she doesn't know How That Woman felt,this Is So Toxic An Unhealthy For An Adult Let Alone A Child To Be In. I Pray For This Family.
They had just found out before he died the other baby wasn’t his and she knew it wasn’t his. Then before the could come back the father died. So there was a lot of animosity. But she should have ate that stuff, because she had played her son. If some woman played her son she would be the same way
@@game2572 that's just horrible.... She's giving herself away Like a free 7 day trial... She probably mad at herself and I hope she slowed All the way down for her kids sake...
Judge Lauren can't express how much I love ur honesty nd open mindedness
Wow I really had to watch this one back to back I wanted to jump on this Babymoma 😑
You need to see the fb page for Jovan
What a woman this judge is! Bravo 👏
Cristina P .she was born for such a time like this! She's a good one!
Spinning Back-Kick she is a real one.
The mom seems to forget that the first baby wasn't his and if that doesn't create doubt than what does. She brought the doubt and all that goes with it on herself. I hope she thinks about that and realizes how important it is for her cute little boy to be able to be loved by his dad's family.
I hope granny still can see the grandson.. and i hope the mom and the granny has a better relationship.. I wish you all the best! 💜
"It ain't enough hair in the world for all of that hair flipping!" 🤔🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💀☠️👻
Jahnea Stanfield
Even if she had all the recycled plastic in the world on her head, there is no reason for all that flipping
Lol, yeah I need to buy some and flip it
I was 🤣😂 when she said that
And is not hers
Shes flexen that hair for sure!
This poor grandmother 🙏🏾 RUN she will take you through it with this grand baby !!!
Man I've seen this episode before, but after watching Part 1 to this, I had to run back over here.... Sigh.
I just did the same thing.
I did the same thing.....the baby mama is a piece of work.
I did the same
Me too😂😂
Me too
This is the best judge ever.. She is Honest.. Insightful.. Doesnt play sides.. And actually listens and gives sound advice and is not bias towards men or women.. She makes this show
Thank you Judge Lauren Lake for your tact to convince this young woman to show compassion. Family is and will always be Family.
The babymomma is beyond childish is disrespectful.
OAN: I wonder how he died. If the mom and BM didn’t get along when he was alive why would she expect things to be different after he died? They were in court and found out she cheated before. I think the grandmas doubts were valid.
his younger brother killed him
Jonica Baber Wow! So the grandmother lost 2 children.
+air mel yes. I googled him and found out what happened
@@jonicababer3993 yes indeed
That Baby mama is acting like she all that when she LIED about the last baby being his! That Grandmother has a right to question paternity, baby mama go sumwhere and sit down! Nobody owe your tail no respect! u happy u finally got it right! i hate the dad passed away..may God grant peace to the grandma🙏
He is copy of his father. So sad he died he wanted a kid last time.
Ain't enough hair in the world for all that flippin 😂😂😂😂 I'm dead. Clearly his mother pushed her away after his death. Too many emotions involved that's why no one can communicate!
I completely agree.
Watch the first part... the father douted way before he died cause the first baby wasn't his... the granma is just following her son's wishes
@@charleschinyere I did lol they were on the show, while she was pregnant with the one that's actually his! In that episode he said, he wanted the DNA test on the baby she was pregnant with. So that was clear!
This episode really bothers me after watching the original episode before the young man died by his own brother. My heart goes out to that mother of Jovan for losing her son, and this other young lady have the most jacked up attitude for no reason. The fact remains that she lied the first episode and she has no reason to be mad at Jovan's mother.
The judge is just kind.
She doing all that like it’s her 1st appearance in the court room
Blackk Inquee 🤣
Lauren Lake is such a classy lady! She's brilliant and I love paternity court 😊
Judge Lauren you are my hero. You built bridges for people who are unable to trust their tools and that means a lot to America.
Judge Lauren was on point today!!! 💖💖💖 the mother did not have to be so rude. Everyone is grieving and it’s so, so soon for everyone for all this to also be happening. So sad. Bless them all.
The grandmother looks younger than the mother!
U know that's a lie 😂
@@w.d.2018 A big lie!
Caught my eye too sighs
Boy...I have total admiration for Ms. Lake. I love how she keeps it real and let's the youth and elders know the error of their ways. Nothing but total respect!❤ We need more like her!!!!
It's so sad that the baby's father was killed. I looked up the story and he was killed by his own brother!!!! Just terrible.
I do think the man's mother gave her a hard time. It’s understandable and being an elder means nothing when you’re being disrespected. With that said the baby mama needs to do some self evaluation and allow her son to be loved by his grandmother
Remember now the girl lied about the first baby and wondered where the animosity came from. That alone should have humbled her
Like judge said the first time the girl lied that set the stage for this. Then giving her the wrong c-section date is sketchy. She should have said she just didn't want her there. They could have been got the DNA test done 2 years ago.
The son before he died asked for the DNA test, because he had doubt, she couldn't expect his mother because he died not to go thru with his request! If she didn't lie about the first baby, she wouldn't be in this predicament.. Ok.. So this time he did fathered this one.. So stop being a pretend diva! You started the problem.. Throwing it in the mums face her son gone but you got yours? That was very low.. Even for her because she is a mother too. But i pray she still allow the child to get to know his father's family or one day she will reap her harvest and it will be worse than what she's dishing out now! What you sow you reap. What happens when her son grows up and some women say he's father and she finds out he's not.. It could happen.
Denys S she didnt have to treat her with disrespect to do that. And he didnt ask his mother anything. It was already ordered when he got killed
That's not the reason the girl was mad. Y'all hear what y'all want to. She said they didn't allow her at his funeral.
The grandma played a role in all of this too.. I’m not caring for the mom’s behavior but I can definitely see it’s more to this story!
I keep saying I'm only going to watch one more episode and it turns into 5, 6, 7...smh. Past my bedtime.
Me too
Synettra Searcy Yep me too 😂😂
Same
I do it with this show and Steve Wilkos show.
Can't just watch one episode 🤣
Get some rest cutie pie. 😉😊😉
Why is this young lady been so rude? I feel soo much pain. Where did we lose our respect to?
What a tragedy the way this man died. I feel so sad for all of them. Hope this precious baby boy brings peace to everyone and hope he gets protected throughout his life 🙏🏻
@11:56 when the baby mother said: “Oh he gone, now I can prove to ha’ (her) who I’m really is” 😂😂😂💀 - it’s clear that these two women have ill feelings towards each other, but I have to side with the deceased man’s mother because the baby mother lied before about paternity of the other child. The Grandmother wanted and needed clarification to see if this child was her son’s biological kid (and rightfully so). I’m just glad the Grandmother was able to see her grandchild in the judge’s chamber. I honestly hope they can put their differences aside for the sake of this innocent child.
I knew I wasn't the only one who caught that! I hooteeeed !!
That woman planted the seed of doubt in grandma's mind. We understand that she's hurting too, but the situation could've been handled better by her as well. Typical case of eye for eye - "She hurt me so imma pop off on her too"... Judge had to spit some truth real quick
Tahj Rose All facts to what u said 💯
I agree she needed proof and that girl is a disrespectful mess but she shouldnt have been shut out before that proof was shown. That baby will never see his name on the obituary of his fathers funeral, the fiance was unable to see her dead fiance's body, it's all very unfair
They shouldn't have waited so long to get DNA test, it made things worst
Jasmine Valiente The obituary listed her name and unborn child
I fell asleep yesterday waiting for this episode . I live in Sweden you know . So now I'm going to watch it. Have a great day everyone.
I know
Please please please Ms. Lady
This mother does not represent black women at all
Idk where she came from
But ya'll can have her in Sweden