I was in the middle of that crash at the beginning of the race. I landed on a guy's front wheel and now my left hand is broken in two places. After eight weeks my hand muscles have atrophied. I'm just now getting back on the bike outdoors a little bit. It goes to show that even at 10 MPH you can still be harmed in a crash. Jeff, thank you for these videos and for all of your race analysis. They are very inspirational. :)
My fault trying to pull in that early break, We should have sat in for longer and allowed Logan to rest. There was no chance it was going to stick. Great racing with you, Good luck in the future!
thanks for the tips and the inspiration Jeff and Logan! I went from riding century rides in the summer for the past 7 yrs to structured training last December about when Logan started. Went from FTP of 245 to 318 (and climbing) with structured training, lost 40 lbs, and now I have my first race this Saturday. The early episode on nutrition was a game changer, it made all those tough trainer workouts, Zwift race efforts, and proper recovery possible.
my name is also Logan, and I also went from couch to crit this year. thanks for all the tips, inspiration, and info! this series has been awesome. Thanks so much!
What an awesome series. It's great to see his development, but also show a different perspective on crit racing; especially for people that are looking to get into it. For instance, you can see and learn from what Logan has achieved so far, and how he did it. Without any context, and combined with current marketing it, sometimes it really feels like you need at least a $4k bike to get to a somewhat competitive level. Maybe the tiny bits such as 4:00 are the moments that make the series even greater and bring perspective into the progress; there's a guy with a Dogma F12 right behind his alu allez with what? Claris? Factor in the hours Logan has put into his training and there's a great story throughout the series. Not saying anyone could just do it, but it's refreshing to see! Thanks for the series, it's quite helpful. To the both of you: keep it up!
I went from 187lbs in the beginning of May to 160lbs as of last week. Minimal sugar and starchy carbs and no booze. My compact chainrings went from helpful to a bit too easy. Either going to hunt down a set of mid-compacts or an 11 tooth on the rear or both
@@ianbent0n Thank Ian! Did keto strictly for 9-10 weeks. I was dehydrated on it though even though I was drinking a s-ton of water with and without electrolytes and was getting muscle cramps. Went off keto @ 168 and 2 weeks later was 160. I just don't eat junk anymore and that was a lot of extra calories.
@@cpk313 I've done it in the past too and lost the exact same weight you did in the exact same amount of time. Pretty crazy. It's a miracle diet if you have the discipline to really do it. Surprised about the dehydration and muscle cramps, never heard that about keto.
If everyone is taking a corner poorly, is it a good idea to be in the top 3 for that corner every time so that you don't get stuck behind a ton of people?
Yes. If you know you are better technically, stay at the front so you can dictate the lines and force the weaker riders to spend energy catching on. The same goes if you know you can follow attacks and ride in the breakaway, you need to stay somewhat at the front to be part of the race that your fitness and/or power profile allows you to
Same all over the world, including my country. Gotta, er, love those Cat 5s: all that delirious enthusiasm and raucous bike-handling skills. Everyone's gotta start somewhere. Here's to you Cat 5s! We salute you (but not too near you lol) 😁
I really enjoyed this series. It was really insightful and really entertaining. Congratulations Logan and I wish you and the family all the best! Well done on your cycling accomplishments too. That's some seriously hard work to be very proud of! 💪🏻🖤
Well done Logan. With a few more of Jeff's brains in you you'll do really well. Dropping wheels at pretty near every corner hurt you and then you had to recover some speed by belting out some higher watts. Better lines through corners is probably the single thing that will make a big difference to your performances imho.
i gotta say YMMV with those power numbers and results depending on where you race. im sure others can attest that 4/5 fields will have crits with burly 300W FTP dudes with 1200W sprints after an hour of racing. and hilly races with 4.5W/kg FTP dudes. yeah race skills can help but only to a point.
Great series, it will be nice to see what happens next for Logan and NorCal Cycling. Id put in for it, but yall dont want to see a 56 yo..."and here is grandpa bringing up the rear!!" haha, be safe.
@@nealm6764 No way, he wasn’t even on the yellow paint at that point, Also a tiny amount of rear wheel slip isn’t going to send you careening into other riders. Watch the clip again very closely. The guy fails to clip in his left foot, then *thinks* he successfully clipped in, but actually didn’t. When he tries to put the power down, his foot slips off the pedal. What’s also funny is the guy he crashes into came VERY close to crashing moments earlier (overlapping wheels.)
watched in slow mo: a few times: shoe stays clipped, chain stays in big ring. only thing i can see is he stands to mash and pulls back HARD on the right hood. and takes all the pressure off the left?
Interesting that the bodybuilder won. I know cycling is geared towards the lighter riders, but some of the bodybuilders and rugby players I ride with are seriously good riders. Keep them away from too many hills and they just pull along like a diesel engine and the lighter riders really struggle. I guess the sheer watts will shine through in certain circumstances. Make me wonder if we should be going for hulk like legs and doing some lower body bodybuilding workouts during the winter.
I thought I was the only one who's averaging 170-ish when putting in effort. I guess it only go down in due time. It kind'a scared me when I was reaching 190s and then going 180s for a long period of time.
How do athletes handle crashes at such events? If someone has destroyed your brand new Dogma - is he in charge of repair, or it's like "bad luck" and you handle it by yourself? Tnx
It’s your job to protect your front wheel in a race. If your bike gets broken, look at it as an opportunity to upgrade what broke. If you can’t afford to risk a fancy carbon-unobtanium bike, there’s a lot of very capable lower cost racing machines on the market, like the Allez the featured athlete in this race was riding.
I’m a cross country runner and I’m 17 I’d fly down for a video where you help me join my first race? 😂 I just have a mountain bike that I ride around on the weekends.
probably staying in the group - it sucks when yo yo effect takes place, but doing the work by yourself is way too inefficient, positioning is so important in a group so you don't slow down too much cornering
Not really sure why Logan’s heart rate is staying so high!! When the watts came down his hr should also. He could try to manage that by going to a bigger gear and slowing his cadence. If I were in that race my hr would be in the 160’s but I am older. What do you think??
That's a Cat5 chain skip crash! He won't do that again - the mental and physical scars will haunt him. Big respect for trying but he needs to practice safely - esp clipping in.
11:27 - I’m sorry, but I would have torn down that annoying banner for messing up the cornering. “Red Bull wants you to go fast and safe…except when we’re advertising.” Grumble.
mountain bike crits are way harder, your only chance to pass is on sort sections of dirt road, then you hit the single track and it is simply not possible and of course they're so tired from the explosive dirt road sprints that its ads to the difficulty. Usually the race is won or lost in the first 10 seconds. Point to point races are better but there's no such thing as teamwork, there's no drafting. Mass starts are chaotic AF for the first 90 seconds of the race then whoever winds up in front usually wins, also cutthroat AF. The frenchies will cut you off and crash you in a heartbeat without giving it a second thought
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I was in the middle of that crash at the beginning of the race. I landed on a guy's front wheel and now my left hand is broken in two places. After eight weeks my hand muscles have atrophied. I'm just now getting back on the bike outdoors a little bit. It goes to show that even at 10 MPH you can still be harmed in a crash.
Jeff, thank you for these videos and for all of your race analysis. They are very inspirational. :)
Wow, that's rough luck. Get better soon!
Get better soon!
Yea, sucks. I hate to see folks injured. Seems like slower crashes can be some of the toughest on the body.
My fault trying to pull in that early break, We should have sat in for longer and allowed Logan to rest. There was no chance it was going to stick. Great racing with you, Good luck in the future!
Haha not you fault at all! s
Someone had to chase it back, I probably should have sat back in the group with a better draft. you live and you learn!
Just want Jeff to know that I'm available for season 2. I can even get a new couch.
Crit to Couch?
@@GTIModBlog That's some fucking Game of Thrones twist there.
@@GTIModBlog lol
really liked the comparison shots between cat5 and P/1 field!
thanks for the tips and the inspiration Jeff and Logan! I went from riding century rides in the summer for the past 7 yrs to structured training last December about when Logan started. Went from FTP of 245 to 318 (and climbing) with structured training, lost 40 lbs, and now I have my first race this Saturday. The early episode on nutrition was a game changer, it made all those tough trainer workouts, Zwift race efforts, and proper recovery possible.
my name is also Logan, and I also went from couch to crit this year. thanks for all the tips, inspiration, and info! this series has been awesome. Thanks so much!
What an awesome series. It's great to see his development, but also show a different perspective on crit racing; especially for people that are looking to get into it. For instance, you can see and learn from what Logan has achieved so far, and how he did it. Without any context, and combined with current marketing it, sometimes it really feels like you need at least a $4k bike to get to a somewhat competitive level. Maybe the tiny bits such as 4:00 are the moments that make the series even greater and bring perspective into the progress; there's a guy with a Dogma F12 right behind his alu allez with what? Claris? Factor in the hours Logan has put into his training and there's a great story throughout the series. Not saying anyone could just do it, but it's refreshing to see!
Thanks for the series, it's quite helpful. To the both of you: keep it up!
Would love to see some Belgian or Netherland-ic critmonsters in this series!
Sad that I'm too young...
would they risk their lives riding with people who crash in a straight line doing 15kmh?
I went from 187lbs in the beginning of May to 160lbs as of last week. Minimal sugar and starchy carbs and no booze. My compact chainrings went from helpful to a bit too easy. Either going to hunt down a set of mid-compacts or an 11 tooth on the rear or both
Well done on the weight loss
@@ianbent0n Thank Ian! Did keto strictly for 9-10 weeks. I was dehydrated on it though even though I was drinking a s-ton of water with and without electrolytes and was getting muscle cramps. Went off keto @ 168 and 2 weeks later was 160. I just don't eat junk anymore and that was a lot of extra calories.
@@cpk313 I've done it in the past too and lost the exact same weight you did in the exact same amount of time. Pretty crazy. It's a miracle diet if you have the discipline to really do it. Surprised about the dehydration and muscle cramps, never heard that about keto.
Congrats, Logan! Dad'ing is the best. The first few weeks are rough, but it gets better. So pumped for you.
Congratulations, Logan, on the new wee one! 🎉
Great job Logan, successful season!
Applied!
Like Logan, I have also just completed my first ever season of racing. I'd love to be included and take my training to the next level.
If everyone is taking a corner poorly, is it a good idea to be in the top 3 for that corner every time so that you don't get stuck behind a ton of people?
Yes. If you know you are better technically, stay at the front so you can dictate the lines and force the weaker riders to spend energy catching on. The same goes if you know you can follow attacks and ride in the breakaway, you need to stay somewhat at the front to be part of the race that your fitness and/or power profile allows you to
So hype for this one
Email sent ! I would absoluthely love to be in Season 2. I could bring some nice and sketchy belgian beginner race footage to the channel😏
Finally! C2C again!!
Same all over the world, including my country. Gotta, er, love those Cat 5s: all that delirious enthusiasm and raucous bike-handling skills. Everyone's gotta start somewhere. Here's to you Cat 5s! We salute you (but not too near you lol) 😁
I really enjoyed this series. It was really insightful and really entertaining. Congratulations Logan and I wish you and the family all the best! Well done on your cycling accomplishments too. That's some seriously hard work to be very proud of! 💪🏻🖤
How about crit to couch? That sounds nice for me.
thanks norcal, logan and TR. cant wait to enter my first crit race in dec. these episodes gave me hope.
keep the good work up jeff!!
Well done Logan. With a few more of Jeff's brains in you you'll do really well. Dropping wheels at pretty near every corner hurt you and then you had to recover some speed by belting out some higher watts. Better lines through corners is probably the single thing that will make a big difference to your performances imho.
Very awesome experience!! I've been trying to figure out how to start crits
Always funny to see a dentist riding a $10000 pinarello F12 in a Cat 5. Like driving a Ferrari in a demolition derby.
Don't be salty about what someone else can afford to replace
or just buy less expensive crap and just give your money away
I have binge watched all your vids In the last like 2 days
i gotta say YMMV with those power numbers and results depending on where you race. im sure others can attest that 4/5 fields will have crits with burly 300W FTP dudes with 1200W sprints after an hour of racing. and hilly races with 4.5W/kg FTP dudes. yeah race skills can help but only to a point.
Great series, it will be nice to see what happens next for Logan and NorCal Cycling. Id put in for it, but yall dont want to see a 56 yo..."and here is grandpa bringing up the rear!!" haha, be safe.
I've seen some 50 and 60 yr olds crush it on the road and track.....
Always watching from Philippines ❤️
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Ngl i dont know amything about bike racing but im still watching your videos since like a year😂
Looking forward to season two.
Its always great when you upload
Did that guy crash himself trying to clip in? LOLSOB.
Looked like he was powering up and his tires just slipped off of the yellow painted line. It happens sometimes on slick paint.
@@nealm6764 No way, he wasn’t even on the yellow paint at that point, Also a tiny amount of rear wheel slip isn’t going to send you careening into other riders. Watch the clip again very closely. The guy fails to clip in his left foot, then *thinks* he successfully clipped in, but actually didn’t. When he tries to put the power down, his foot slips off the pedal. What’s also funny is the guy he crashes into came VERY close to crashing moments earlier (overlapping wheels.)
@@kidsafe Embarrasingly, I've done that many times, but I don't ride with people..
Thank goodness the guy with pinarello escaped unscathed!
Great season, Logan!
Keep up the good work Logan! Babies like the hum of a trainer
I rewatched the start 5 times and still can’t figure out what happened 😂
Yea. That's a weird crash. It looks as if his chain skipped.
He's managed to clip in OK but messed up on the gearing.
cat5 ;)
watched in slow mo: a few times: shoe stays clipped, chain stays in big ring. only thing i can see is he stands to mash and pulls back HARD on the right hood. and takes all the pressure off the left?
It was like he was whigling with his feet for some reason, like he wasn't sure he was clipped in or not and then he accidentally clipped out ?
@@AH-hp5si He went full Geraint Thomas
This was an awesome series
Been waiting for this vid man
Wow. I learned some tips from you in this video. Very nice
Holy shit Logan that race 1 sprint from a 190+ heart rate was insane!
Interesting that the bodybuilder won. I know cycling is geared towards the lighter riders, but some of the bodybuilders and rugby players I ride with are seriously good riders. Keep them away from too many hills and they just pull along like a diesel engine and the lighter riders really struggle. I guess the sheer watts will shine through in certain circumstances.
Make me wonder if we should be going for hulk like legs and doing some lower body bodybuilding workouts during the winter.
These races are 20km..... more of a sprint then a conventional bike race. Where I live even entry level races (uncategorized) are 40-50km minimum.
"Cat 5 field?" "Yeeeeeeup" xD
Need to introduce our guy to Super 77 and well-crumpled race numbers if he isn't already in the know.
I got super excited imagining being featured for season 2 but I realized that there are no decent road races in the Philippines. 😂😭😭😭
Great Videos, I like the analysis. I would like to know what software do you use to put the data on the videos speed power ect?
I made a video about this topic, check out my channel.
7:12 if that black dude on the left reaches peak performance, he will be an unbeatable sprinter.
I was in this race, got dropped woooo. See you next year
0:08 there's your season 2 athlete right there
this is wild!
Hey! I was in this! Got held up in the crash and had to start in the pit lane.
I thought I was the only one who's averaging 170-ish when putting in effort. I guess it only go down in due time. It kind'a scared me when I was reaching 190s and then going 180s for a long period of time.
you guys didn't mention how fricken hot was!
NorCal, can i get the the nuts and bolts... Since you really use your bikes, what BB are you using?
Season 2: joins Zwift and becomes a member of DIRT (dads inside riding trainers) team for ZRL
The body builder, was that "Mr calliet"?!
How do athletes handle crashes at such events? If someone has destroyed your brand new Dogma - is he in charge of repair, or it's like "bad luck" and you handle it by yourself? Tnx
It’s your job to protect your front wheel in a race.
If your bike gets broken, look at it as an opportunity to upgrade what broke.
If you can’t afford to risk a fancy carbon-unobtanium bike, there’s a lot of very capable lower cost racing machines on the market, like the Allez the featured athlete in this race was riding.
It's up to you dude, if people were responsible for other peoples bike repairs someone would be getting sued almost every race!
Any plans on season 2?
What’s Logan’s height? I heard the weight. 6’2 180 wouldn’t be bad at all.
Can we get a Logan update? Still racing?
You forgot to post the link to logans youtube and insta!
It means 20min ftp from 200 to 270 per 3 months is quite good? 😁
So are all those carbon bikes are now scrap?
I’m a cross country runner and I’m 17 I’d fly down for a video where you help me join my first race? 😂 I just have a mountain bike that I ride around on the weekends.
Is it better to follow the group and take the corner poorly? Or try to take it properly? I wonder what is more of an energy saver
probably staying in the group - it sucks when yo yo effect takes place, but doing the work by yourself is way too inefficient, positioning is so important in a group so you don't slow down too much cornering
Not really sure why Logan’s heart rate is staying so high!! When the watts came down his hr should also. He could try to manage that by going to a bigger gear and slowing his cadence. If I were in that race my hr would be in the 160’s but I am older. What do you think??
he went deep into his anaerobic reserve with that effort after already pushing high watts so HR recovery get's thrown out of the window.
Logan has dad watts now, there's no way he can lose
Writing this from my couch.
Next season: Cat 5 to Cat 3?
How do I find out where crits are going to be?
$600 bike but what about the power meter? >$1000 for a power meter to provide all the data you are relying on?
what was the bike he used again?
Can't get his feet in or ride out of the saddle. Man needs a gravel bike and some long, lonely days in the saddle.
oh god
Its kinda sad to see logan go
My application email is longer than you wanted. Sorry! I got too excited.
So just your standard cat 5 race LOL
aye fair park crit
Final? Joe Martin has a 4-5 waitlist..
Hey Jeff, what ever happened to Logan?
I think he took a break after having a kid and changing jobs
Stuck behind a crash at the start, you should have put a foot down and went to the pits.
That's a Cat5 chain skip crash!
He won't do that again - the mental and physical scars will haunt him.
Big respect for trying but he needs to practice safely - esp clipping in.
evetually you are going to crash. you have to get comfortable in the pack with no escape route.
11:27 - I’m sorry, but I would have torn down that annoying banner for messing up the cornering.
“Red Bull wants you to go fast and safe…except when we’re advertising.” Grumble.
Making me think Tulsa is worth it.
Hey I love there
mountain bike crits are way harder, your only chance to pass is on sort sections of dirt road, then you hit the single track and it is simply not possible and of course they're so tired from the explosive dirt road sprints that its ads to the difficulty. Usually the race is won or lost in the first 10 seconds. Point to point races are better but there's no such thing as teamwork, there's no drafting. Mass starts are chaotic AF for the first 90 seconds of the race then whoever winds up in front usually wins, also cutthroat AF. The frenchies will cut you off and crash you in a heartbeat without giving it a second thought
0:01 i found the fake F12.
Am I the only one who gets a super condescending tone from Jeff? New to this channel.
Hills? im out of here...
🔥 Idiot 🔥
Next season: Toilet to crit without wiping
Cat 5 shouldn't even be allowed to race , just do a slow group and they win a pat on the head
hahah....so many roadies (all?) jump straight onto clipless pedals without any technic or skills....
Bruh