12 MONTH PRADO (GX460) REVIEW // 2021 Toyota Landcruiser Prado GXL 11,000 km Ownership Experience
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ธ.ค. 2024
- After using my new Prado in a variety of situations and on multiple trips, how good is it really? This video will address all of your questions regarding my ownership experience of my 2021 Landcruiser Prado 150.
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Keywords: Toyota, Prado, Lexus, GX460, Landcruiser, truck, 4wd, overlanding, touring, supertourer.
I got my new 2021 GXL Prado in January 2022. Have just clocked 25,000kms already. Hasn't missed a beat.
Awesome mate! They are tanks. Loving mine too. Thanks for commenting and subscribing 👍
Great! 😂😂🤝🤝
I noticed you have the same garage door as us. You should line your tilta garage door with 15mm foilboard from Bunnings. Did mine, 4 sheets total 160 dollars and 1 hour time. Makes it way cooler in summer and way warmer in winter.
Thank you for the advice. I sweat like mad all year round 😅
Be sure to check the manual re which gear you should be in when towing. Also, there is a way to get the mirrors to auto fold with a aftermarket mod. At least on the earlier 150s.
I’ll have a look. A lot of people talk about locking the 6th gear to save on fuel while towing. This would be handy for general use too
Should tow in sport 4 as it keeps the transmission locked and cooler, not much difference to fuel economy
You can buy a Richards or Stock lock transmission lock up kit to make it lock in 5th and 6th.
Locking the transmission reduces heat th rough having no slippage.
No need to put an after market mod. My Land Cruiser they auto fold as standard, but there is a switch on the driver's door to switch between auto and manual mirror folding. At least there is on my 2022 model.
I have 2022 Fortuner GX. Great size and car. 4 months now 2300 km. 3rd row seats removed. Getting 9.3l 100 currently
Same engine so it makes sense 👍 I was thinking of getting one of those. They look great
@@NorthOz also have a Fortuner, the 2,8 GD6 4x4 VX auto which I bought in March this year. It has the adaptive cruise, blind spot monitoring, JBL sound, 360 degree cameras. Also removed the third row seats which gives a huge space. In South Africa a local company, Booxe, manufacture a box that then goes into the redundant footwell giving a level surface, covers to fill the 2 mounting point apertures and a rubber mat without the slots.
But still hanker after a Prado. Ordered one in September last year but the dealer I did the order thru left a lot to be desired. Was getting rid of a Discovery 4 in February when the extended maintenance plan expired so was desperate. Went to a different dealer and they sourced the Fortuner which at the time was all I could get. Then the floods hit us and the Toyota factory here was under water and mud. Production started up again in August but huge demand backlogs so can get more than I paid for the vehicle. Huge speculation here with vehicle flipping particularly LC300’s in the Toyota product range.
Have an order in for a Prado 2,8GD VX-L (which is similar spec to the Aussie Kakadu but excluding the rear entertainment) with the Fortuner selling dealer. May get one by year end. As one member of a local forum espoused, comparing a Fortuner to a Prado is like comparing a good Parker pen to a Mont Blanc. An obvious Prado fan! Ronny Dahl has a great TH-cam video where he does the comparison with some surprising results. Go look as their respective strengths and weaknesses are in different areas.
The dancing with the pedal to get it into 6th is the same on my GXL 200 serII. Top in auto is not necessarily the most fuel efficient. Keep faith in the Prado engineers, they are on your side
Will do! Good to know your 200 does the same
re transmission gear you've mentioned, I've experience the same on my 2023 VX model. It drops from 4th to 3rd gear especially when I brake hard downhills around 70km/h, the engine just revs up to 3000 rpm which is no good and horrible noise to hear inside the cabin. What I do now is switch to sport mode and shift up back to 4th gear so that it remains at low rpm range.
Sport mode definitely helps but I find it too aggressive on up shifts. When going up hills it will change to keep the revs high. There’s no real answer unfortunately
Great 12 month review 🇺🇸
Thanks mate!
GREAT GREAT review and comments.
REALLY APPREACIATED it.
THANK YOU.
Thank you Terry! Thanks for subscribing too 👍
Hi mate, I just got the a 2021 gxl too and find the stereo to be disappointing. It sounds flat and almost like there's only front speakers, but the balance is set to the middle. I'm curious what you meant by setting up the speakers?
Great review. Learnt a lot. Thank you from 🇿🇦
Thanks for the comment. I appreciate it 👍
Plugging in your phone keeps the battery charged. I am happy to do that.
Good point. I suppose it needs to be plugged in anyway haha
after towing approx. 5OOOkms with a 1.5 tonne caravan with a 2022 prado, we notice that ( as per the owners manual) its 'best' to tow in S4. which means the engine revs are typically 2k ish and you can sit on about 90km ish. the cabin noise is louder, but hills don't make the transmission 'hunt' and transmission temp stays cooler. eg: more engine revs but more 'drive-able'. it seems to be an engine that relies on revs. also engine braking down hill, when towing is not 'substantial'.
also we found the optional front parking sensors (on gxl model etc) are typical toyota ( from experience on older camry/corrolla etc) not as good as 'integrated' units. IMO. is this what your father has found? also what is your opinion on the 'auto' dropping down a gear when going down hill?
I tried the s4 today and it sits quite high in the rev range at 2.5k going 90. I suppose that’s fine but fuel consumption would get destroyed. Thank you for bringing that to my attention. The front sensors are not good at all. They beep and carry on all the time. Once I get over the crest of the hill the engine relaxes to a higher gear relying on brakes then once I brake hard enough it starts to engine brake. Does yours do the same?
@@NorthOz yes, the motor has difficulty driving 5th when towing ( also 'shudders' at the lower revs) the auto transmission calibration/gearing is a disappointment for us. when towing the unexpected dropping back gear/s going down hill ( after light brake operation) can be 'alarming' also the trailer brakes would not be operated ( possible sway event?)
The reply is to North Oz. I’m pulling about 2500rpm in S4 at 100km/h. Your rpm’s seem high for 90km/h. Re fuel consumption, higher rpm’s will affect the fuel consumption, however the main driver of fuel consumption will be engine load and the efficiency of an engine at a certain load/rpm. You will find that towing in S4 (even with higher rpm) will likely give you better fuel economy than letting it go into 5th or 6th when towing a heavy load It will also have the added bonus of not over stressing the overdrive gears (5th and 6th) and the torque converter will likely stay locked more and keep your trans fluid temps down, so basically it will look after your transmission. FYI I have a 2021 and tow a 2.8ton van. Average 15-16l/100km when towing. Seeing as the advice of tow in S and don’t use overdrive gears comes rip from the manual, written by the engineers, I would also pit a lot of faith in it.
@@Jason-zi3wh agree with your comments. Keeping in S4 also tends to make you tow at a more 'reasonable' speed. Also saving fuel. Unless you drive with out listening to the motor revs etc
Our 2021 Camry does the exact same thing with the remote and unlocking. I've changed the battery. I put it down to poor quality transmitter. My 2012 Dmax can lock/unlock from quite some distance. Of an evening before bed we have to go outside next to the car to lock the Camry, the Dmax can be locked from my bed from other side of the house.
Mark what are your thoughts on the 2023 Prado GXs? Worth the cash? (68k)
Hi mate, thanks for asking. I have only had experience with the GXL. In my opinion, the most underrated 4wd on the market is the Prado. It’s very capable and very comfortable. The suspension is actually really good off-road but on road you’ll get body roll but it’s fine. Overall, the impression my Prado left me with is a strong, capable and well built vehicle that doesn’t do anything exceptionally but does everything better than other brands and models. I will probably buy another Prado again in the future. Great vehicles and good luck with the purchase. For $68k that’s around what I paid for my gxl 2 years ago but prices have increased. The new Prado releases soon but I’d stick with the current model as it looks better in my opinion and has better aftermarket and part support. The new model has very little to offer over the Prado 150.
Thanks for the review. What about the Ford Everest? Too Small for you?
No worries mate 👍 Personally, I don’t have first hand experience with ford. I would only really consider the 3.2L Everest but I do have my reservations about the reliability. And at that price point I would’ve gone for a fortuner or a MUX. I might own a raptor one day but I haven’t been convinced so far on the ford brand. Thanks for commenting and subscribing 👍
Hi mate. I watched your video today, which is after 2 yrs you made it. Would you mind give a little bit review on the DPF system? Coz I would like have a car like this, buy mostly I drive in city, daily commuting or do some grocery. And as I know, modern diesel cars are not that suitable for low speed ride. Cheers mate.
I’ll make a full video but I wouldn’t let that hold you back. Short trips (under 5 minutes) can be a problem for the dpf if it needs to burn but if you are happy to let it run for a bit longer or take it on the highway for a bit, you are good to go for another 300ish kms
I enjoyed watching your videos. Did your father's 2022 Prado come standard with front parking sensors, or did he install them separately?
Thank you 🙏 They came from the factory that way. I believe it was an optioned extra for $500. Thank you for subscribing 👍
Not sure if you are unlucky and have a bit of a dud car, but I have the 2022 Prado TX 2.8 turbo Diesel and that simply flys up hills and does not hunt gears at all. Whether used on auto or manual setting, and where I live is nothing but hills some very steep. In fact just got back from a trip to Tokyo today and it is up hill all the way back to my house 180k and it was cruising along at a steady 120 and the revs stayed at a steady 1700 all the way, even after leveling out on the occasional flat patch and then going up hill again the revs barely changed. So just wondering if you have a rare Prado that has some sort of transmission or engine problem. Might be worth getting it checked out.
Hi mate! This is a common issue with autos and I have found the same in my dad’s 2022 Prado. It will often select the wrong gear, then quickly change gear to one that is too low to overcompensate. Others report the same
@@NorthOz I see. Well at the moment I certainly am not getting that problem at all. As with any auto if you push the accelerator to hard release it slightly then push down again it can cause this, but then that is normal for any auto of any make of car. I have both auto and manual cars and the way I operate them is different. I am not saying you are doing this, but that would cause that issue which isn't really an issue it's more driving style. My car only has 4000 on it so once it's done more ks if that becomes a problem I will let you know, but as of yet no matter what speed or what incline I drive the car at I do not have any problems with the car selecting to high or lower gear. Using the S gears and selecting an appropriate gear may help you although I am actually just using it mostly in auto. I mostly use the s gears when driving in snow as it gives better control and more engine breaking.
Good luck anyway. Nice channel by the way. It is my first time to come across your channel, will be watching more especially as I have the same rig.
@@Car-crazy Thanks mate
Hi serious question, are you the gentleman that had the Rogue? I’m looking to buy , I’m not sure on whether to buy the prado or Rogue. I dont tow, I thought the tub would be handy, I do country driving and city driving, I’m not a 4x4 off road person. If you sold the Rogue why?
Good question. I have the rogue but sold the Prado as we had 2 Prado’s. I would recommend the Prado if you don’t need the tray as without a load the hilux is pretty bad to drive. Also, the Prado has a better 4wd system than the rogue for less money too. If this helps you out, consider subscribing. It helps me out 🤙
@@NorthOz I’ve ordered a new ranger, but honestly and this is nothing to do with brand, since getting back from the hunter valley, 90% of vehicle’s on the road in the country were Toyotas. All the mining vehicles Toyotas, I spoke to a mechanic who works around the hunter valley who said the majority of breakdowns he attends are fords, there were very few fords, rams, etc with the exception of tourists out in the country. I’m now looking to get out of the ford contract to purchase a prado , I just can’t risk being stranded.
Evidently, he regretted buying both the Prado and the Rogue. It’s not easy knowing what to buy and I’m hoping he does a vid explaining why he sold the Hilux but also what he was expecting when he bought it but it didn’t live up to? Seem Hilux are all hype and reportedly the worst riding you can buy.
Hey mate, how much room does it give ya once you've taken out rear seats? I don't need my far back seats, and want to throw a dual draw in. But not sure to leave seats in and put draws onto. Or if removing the seats will give me more depth.
Gives more depth for sure. Around 150mm in some places I estimate. It isn’t perfectly flat. You need to remove the seats if you want a drawer system back there 👍
With regard to the key fob... I currently have a 2019 Corolla Hatch (Hybrid) and I have similar issues. I practically have to be right next to it to lock it with the fob.
Side note... as of today (19.10.22) I am waiting to pick up my Prado GX 7 seat with rear mount tyre... It will be interesting to see how it performs as a delivery vehicle and as an Uber
Yes! The key fob is a common problem for sure. Congrats on your new Prado! I’m sure you will be able to take lots of people in comfort as an uber
Hey Chris
Why are you going with a Prado as a Uber vehicle ?
@@Speedi-tm5dm Initially I got the Prado to get the longer delivery runs on the Amazon Flex delivery platform. The icing on the cake was that the Prado no only qualifies for standard Uber-X, but also Uber Comfort and Uber-XL. Where my old car (2019 Corolla Hatch) only got me Uber-X and the short delivery runs. Basically, The Prado is going to bring in the bigger commissions on both platforms.
I have always liked the Prado, so its a win-win
Seems the key fob is hit and miss. My GXL is march 22 build and have had no issues whatsoever. Overall love the vehicle with the leather upgrade. Keep the posts coming mate.
It was fine for the first 6 months. Seems to be getting worse. Hopefully it’s just the battery. Thank you for the nice comment 😊
What was the wait time for your and your dad's cars? cheers. Thinking about placing one and the news said the lead time may be 15 months.
Hi Alan. Someone backed out of an order (I asked to be put on a wait list in case this happened). I got mine in 3 weeks.
Dad ordered his and his took 6 months. It arrived about 7 months ago. I hope this helped. Thanks for commenting and subscribing 👍
@@NorthOz Cheers thanks!
Have you considered putting in an order for the Prado 250 which should come out in 12 Months?
I don’t have any information on that yet. It depends on what is being offered. I assume it will be hybrid and will match the 300 series. If I was going to upgrade, it would probably be to a different brand or model of vehicle to make some informative videos on them. If the new Prado has the right features I’m looking for, I’ll consider an upgrade
@@NorthOz I think if you were an early adopter of the next Prado your channel would really get the views! Anyway love your content mate :)
Why do you reference a GX460? That's a 4.6L V8 lexus based on the prado.
Yep you are correct 👍 Very similar vehicles
The fine rust dots on your paint are not a defect with your Prado. When cars are shipped on Rail iron filings come off the train brakes and land on the paint of the car, or if a car is in a workshop where angle grinding etc is happening where hot iron is airborne. This is an easy DIY fix for you, get a product to remove such as Autoglym Magma 500mL
which should be available at most parts stores in Aust (Supercheap etc). This will remove the rust spots permanently with ease. Just make sure to thoroughly wash off with lots of water and give the car a good was after and you will not see any more rust spots :)
That’s interesting. I will look into that for sure. Thank you for your help 👍 Can’t wait to clean them up
@@NorthOz Cool just try to avoid getting any on unpainted metal such as door hinges etc. Nice easy product to use and it will show up rust filings you did not even know about when you apply! It just melts the rust spots off
@@NorthOz You could also try a product called "Iron X", it should do the trick for the rust-spots.
Will do 👍
Or Bowden's Own Three Way paint decontamination or just sell your car every 2 years which seems to be the theme of this channel.
Great work mate, very well presented. I’d love you to make a channel of similar videos 76 series.
Thanks mate! Much appreciated. Getting a 76 series has crossed my mind as it would provide the viewers with a lot of information. Thanks for commenting and subscribing 👍
Your thoughts on the new Ford Everest.
Hi mate. Haven’t seen it. If it’s anything like the old one, I wouldn’t be interested. If I had a choice with ford or Toyota, I’m going Toyota every day
Towing is horrible ,very honest review mate👍🏽
Thanks mate. Still testing the towing at the moment 😁 I will report back soon. Thanks for commenting and subscribing 👍
Interesting I find the engine super responsive and when towing about 13l/100 to 15l/100 in s4 / s5.. good video but maybe how the Prado is tuned
Could be. Those are good numbers. What are you towing if you don’t mind me asking? Thanks for commenting and subscribing 👍
Very nice, keep going.
Good luck
Thank you my friend!
Great 12 month review Mark. 🙌 sucks to hear about the paint.
Thank you! Yeah the paint is a let down. But overall, I’m happy with it 😊
@@NorthOz are you in a coastal suburb where it may be more prone to rust also?
I'm still waiting for my 2022 prado delivery. Hopefully by end of next month!
Not too coastal. Cairns. How exciting!
@@NorthOz See my comment, its an easy fix, the problem is rail dust (iron filings from transporting the car most likely). Buy a iron deposit remover, easy fix :)
I got the 2022 and i have to pay around 500 for the front sensor.
I’m just realising that we had to pay the same. Not sure if it was worth it but Toyota should have included it for free. Thank you for commenting and subscribing 😊
@@NorthOz 2022 prado I am about regret to add that as it kind a annoying and usuless. Other than that I still need to turn on and off my headlight manually. My Yaris 5 years older have the option auto turn on the headlight.
@@NorthOz love your video. Keep up the good work.
Not too sure why they couldn’t include auto head lights. Their economy cars have more features than the Prado 🤷♂️
Not being funny or mean or anything, but it seems like you guys get less equipment as standard on your cars there then we do here in Japan. I bought the lowest trim and it has all round parking sensors as standard as well as pedestrian and bike sensors, also has lane departure detection, active cruise control, auto lights, auto high beam, traffic speed warning sensor and sign info, and tells you when there are railways, school zones etc coming up. This was all standard as well as several other things. Seems like your top spec models have less stuff than our lower spec models as standard. Or it because mine was literally the very last of the prados to come off the production line before this new 2024 comes out. Usually manufacturers stock the last models with more equipment just before major new model changes.
What has Toyota said they will do about the paint
Not much they can do. They were happy to pay for it to go to a detailer to clay bar the paint for contaminant removal and a buff. I asked them if it would affect my trade value and they said no so I haven’t done anything about it. If it gets worse, I will take up their offer to try to fix the paint. Thanks for commenting and subscribing 😊
@@NorthOz It can occur when the vehicle has been exposed to pollution or has been close to or transported by rail. The small metal shavings from rolling stock wheels get imbedded into the clear coat and then the rust sets in. Guess one way to check if this is what is happening is to compare horizontal surfaces to vertical ones. It would be expected that the horizontal surfaces would have more marks.
Hi Mark, I love your videos. I got the 2022 Prado VX Pearl white color and I ask Toyota to do Duraseal Ceramic coating to my brand new unit including leather seat protection and its a lifetime protection for a 1K NZD.
I didn’t know that is even an option. Is that something that all dealerships offer? I’ll look into that 😊 Thank you for commenting and subscribing
Hello Mark. I just inquire to my Toyota dealer about it and give me a sweet deal for interior and exterior protection.
does this prado not have keyless entry?
Hi Jesse. Yes it does but I’m finding it unreliable
2022 GXL still doesn't have front parking sensors standard
Good pickup. From what I can tell, Dad’s 2022 model came upgraded with the extra safety pack. This includes; front sensors, puddle lights in the side view mirrors and rear path cross path detection. A nice little upgrade that adds to the overall experience of ownership. Thank you for commenting and subscribing 👍
Good Video's though, helped me choose between the wheelback and flatback option and the video you did on the dash display was helpful and not really covered anywhere else
@@NorthOz i dont think he has extra safety pack, mine came standard with all of that except for front sensors
Ah! Interesting. It may be standard then 👍
Strange mine has all round parking sensors as well as people and bike sensors all as standard. Maybe different countries vary, but here in Japan all the models come with every sensor you can think of.
No problem with the keyless entry either it works from miles away and you can just touch the handle to unlock the car and touch the top to lock it, no need for the electronic key at all.
Great review mate. BTW it’s not a truck
Thanks mate! Body on frame = Truck
But it’s okay to have your own opinion. Don’t stress 👍
You're going to have an impossible mission of "building a 76 to a level of comfort" of the prado. They are infamous for poor comfort and a heap more road noise. I would recommend trying to borrow one for a while before buying one. I think you'll miss the prado given that it seems to be doing the job for you well.
Good point Dave. I was going to put out some feelers in the cairns region for anyone who has one and would be keen for me to do a ride along. Not a lot of them around though. Thanks for commenting and subscribing
Just don’t get a 76 off-road capability features safety refinement I just see it as a terrible idea overall it’s worse in every aspect if you logically think about it apart from reliability which my prado decided that lane keep isn’t needed recently 😅.
Good point. The 76 isn’t what you buy for comfort but it is build like a tank and will last forever. What happened to your Prado?
@@NorthOz well the lane keep assist and auto breaking decided to kick the bag in just randomly said see dealership, radar cruise still works but at 20k km it’s quite disappointing how many issues have occurred already for the supposed Toyota reliability.
@@NorthOz yeah the 76 will last forever or until your back calls it quits which may happen sooner a built 70 series would be nice but it lacks anything modern or any real safety but it’s a capable off-road. Despite that the advanced traction system available on a prado would still run laps on it with a 2 inch lift.
@@ar12. absolutely. It will outlast my back haha
Toyota can turn on your auto mirror function on in techstream
PS I think you'll be disappointed in a 76 series
I think you are right haha. Is that something can be done at the dealer?
They are a good all round vehicle, but not ideal for heavy towing or quick acceleration!
We are testing the towing now. I like the acceleration. Not a v8 but it does well. New video coming this week about our new caravan 👍 Towing review soon to follow
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Wise words. Thank you sir
Hey Mark. I’ve only had my 2022 Prado VX for a couple of months now but have thus far noted the following:
a) aside from GVM compliance requirements (which I meet), I haven’t towed a caravan with it as yet but I’m already getting the impression that the 2.8L Diesel engine is a bit undersized for the vehicle;
b) kinda glad I got the VX model over the GLX for the extra bits and pieces it comes with standard;
c) the single USB connector in the front is a bit of a pain especially when the 12V cigarette lighter plug is already spoken for;
d) despite all the mods I have thus far fitted to the vehicle, I am able to get about 8.3L/100km - but only after actually driving it like an 80yr old soccer great grandpa;
e) the video resolution of the reversing camera is rubbish;
f) had 10yr warranty PPF installed on the vehicle but it cost me an absolute bomb!!;
d) I sometimes drive it in manual mode when the auto gearbox seems to select the wrong gear for the driving conditions.
In relation to towing with the auto gearbox, I believe that it is optimum to tow heavy loads when the gearbox and the engine are at a 1:1 ratio (4th gear?) to prevent constant gearbox slippage resulting in sustained high gearbox operating temps and wear.
Apart from that, very happy with the vehicle and still wouldn’t get anything else even if I could go back 🤙
I agree with all of your points. I would like to know how much the PPF cost. The engine is fine for the vehicle itself but as a towing rig, a patrol or Dmax is a better option for the same money. I agree, I enjoy this vehicle and wouldn’t have anything else at this point. I wouldn’t mind trying a patrol in the future though
Basically the same as a 2009 Prado…except for a different motor and gearbox 😂
Haha yep!
also, you say it has a lack of features for the price, and then you say your considering a 76 series haha
Something a bit different. The draw card is the drive train which could be an interesting point of comparison. We have 2 Prado’s right now so a different vehicle could be good for comparison videos. What would you recommend? I’m thinking a wagon of some description
It's not a truck. It's an SUV.
My video, my rules. It’s a truck
It’s not a pickup truck, but is a truck……SUV is used for almost anything now…..
It's not a truck.
It is though
Dont call it a truck...🤦
Too late sorry
Wireless car play ..just get a small gadget from eBay ..and hook it up with USB.. problem solved
Good idea but just another thing to do that could’ve easily been added by Toyota from the factory 🤷♂️