Hey, there! Thanks so much for posting these. I was a big fan of the anime in the 90’s, and this live action version is so cool! We have no access to it in the U.S., so I was happy to find it here. Thanks again!
THIS IS FANTASTIC FOR ALL THOSE WHO HAVE NOT SEEN PATLABOUR BEFORE. THIS WORKS GOOD FOR THE ONES WHO ARE SEEING THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME. REALLY LOVING IT! 😍😍
Since Patlabor is a “realistic” setting, it’s interesting that they’re establishing that bipedal robots are an abandoned technology leftover from the 90’s that was meant to be revolutionary, but ended up being impractical. As a mecha fan that’s depressing, but it feels very realistic.
The revelation that Noa and Asuma got hitched is... not much of a surprise, actually. Vindication for shipping those two from the beginning, huh? I suspect that Ota's involvement did nothing good for his private company's insurance premiums...
I would imagine that if we could make such devices, they would be great at a wide range of construction uses. Then the easiest way to handle them if they were used badly would be police versions. So the basic mission still makes sense. For military use? That option would have to be re-examined. However, I think there might still be a useful configuration.
In the opening of Patlabor 2, we saw military-grade mechs get torn up by 30mm AA cannons. While their mobility is fantastic, I don't think they would have seen much use outside of scouting, because there's just no way to maintain a Labor's mobility (the whole reason they were built) while armouring them heavily enough to survive more than simple anti-materiel weapons. This, on top of the significant maintenance challenges they pose. Police Labors were even less armoured, as they were never intended to face military hardware to begin with, sacrificing durability for the mobility needed to physically wrestle rogue civilian mechs into submission. Still, they proved their worth. One example that comes to mind is an incident in episode 25 of the TV series, where the conventional SWAT unit tried to handle a rogue Labor on their own, in a typical show of chest-thumping, and they couldn't do a damn thing to stop it, losing a number of cars in the process. Then SV2 got involved, and it was sorted out real quick.
@@Spudtron98 What an amazing and thoughtful reply. Thank you. In the series, there was an ongoing theme that the Patlabors were being studied for their potential military application. I can still see potential military applications. Imagine a tank that could walk? Still it does seem that the current trend in military tech is to go small as the balance between lethality of weapons and effectiveness of armor keeps swinging toward lethality. That could change though as materials science keeps working the problem.
It's depressing to hear, but I think the rant is also really interesting because it represents how different the future is looking for us now compared to the future of it Patlabor, all the way back in the 80's, when the Japanese economy seemed unstoppable and tech seemed to be going in a particular direction, had predicted. Although Patlabor still hit the mark on a lot of topics, including the prevalence of unmanned craft being the new trend of the future, it was a series that prided itself on the realism of its setting and that very thing has shifted. Did it work for a new series setup? I dunno, it didn't seem to help it. I think the concept of Patlabor can easily be adjusted to reflect more contemporary times and views of the future with a soft reboot, while this chose to exist in the movie continuity. (I think the general cast of the "next generation" being kinda weak didn't help either.) but all that said, in a vaccuum, this monologue is sort of interesting, even if very depressing for a mecha fan to hear.
You don't need to do much to retool Patlabor for the modern era. Just change the aesthetic a bit so they're using something better than mere floppy disks, and the rest comes together.
This is literally Mamorus entire schtick. His work has always been a deconstruction of the genre. And all his projects hve been similar in deconstructing the genre. Macross plus for example, or even ghost in the shell. Or even his OG patlabor work.
I personally don't really consider this character assassination as much as I do Mamoru venting about the shift in our real world times. The future that Patlabor predicted in the 80's, is looking pretty different by today's standards. Also even back then, one of Patlabor's big qualities was its justification for bipedal mecha, going to great lengths of in universe detail to justify them while still presenting a very believable future. And what does keep the concept of mecha alive if not just sheer love of the concept, if "fetishization" is too harsh a word? I believe he's venting the frustration in feeling it much more difficult to do that, at least with Patlabor's original setting, in a way that feels believable. (which makes me wonder why they set this in the movie continuity to begin with rather than simply reboot it but thats an aside.) My two cents though is I don't think the era of mecha is gone, but times have definitely changed. The heyday of mecha that Patlabor knew is gone, which I believe is being lamented here a bit' but I don't believe the concept is gone.
@jarik7658 I remember reading somewhere once he was involved in the project. Of course when I need to cross check and reference it I can't find it anymore. Which means I probably just misremembered some part of it. Though, even other projects he was involved in like urusei yatsura movie 2 show all of his usual elements at work too.
yeah, I really hate how they badly treated the original SV2 members like this, even if off-screen. And the generation of SV2 members are pretty much stand-in for the original members minus their likability. Since this is set in the movies timeline, the original SV2 was already disbanded by the time of Patlabor 2 movie, but they deserved better that this, even if after the 2nd movie's ending.
There they go again, being all deep and philosophical to get in the way of telling a story at a reasonable pace. I get it, the Japanese fought for the wrong side of the fence once and felt bad about it, but get over it already and tell us a story fitting to the medium. If I want to listen to somebody yammer around about existence and meaning for half an hour I'd read a book. This is Patlabor!
@@StormsandSaugeye Seriously. The second movie has some of the most biting commentary about post war japanese society of any japanese movie in general. The various series's themselves are littered with social commentary. It's an integral part of Patlabor's DNA by merit of its status as a police procedural drama. If that's not your thing Tomas thats fine, but *THAT* is Patlabor. Also, "get over it already?" Jesus, the arrogance.
実写版でシゲさんを千葉さんがするって、ベタだけどパーフェクトでしょう。
実際、何年か経って整備班の班長の年齢に千葉さんがぴったりだったのは大きい。
でも、自分は嫌いじゃないっすよ。俺だってそうだよ。・・・・・・・この台詞に全てがあると思う。大好きなんだよね~(笑)。
内容は、寂しいかぎりですが、しっかり榊さんの血統を繋いでいることに安心しました。
アップありがとうございます。
千葉さんは、もう日本の宝ですネ
Hey, there! Thanks so much for posting these. I was a big fan of the anime in the 90’s, and this live action version is so cool! We have no access to it in the U.S., so I was happy to find it here. Thanks again!
up THANKS!
もう何年前だろう....懐かしいなぁ。
THIS IS FANTASTIC FOR ALL THOSE WHO HAVE NOT SEEN PATLABOUR BEFORE. THIS WORKS GOOD FOR THE ONES WHO ARE SEEING THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME. REALLY LOVING IT! 😍😍
Since Patlabor is a “realistic” setting, it’s interesting that they’re establishing that bipedal robots are an abandoned technology leftover from the 90’s that was meant to be revolutionary, but ended up being impractical.
As a mecha fan that’s depressing, but it feels very realistic.
what I find really even more depressing is that pretty much the lives of original SV2 crew members sucked after their SV2 days were over.
いいな~、この世界観。この世界に行きたい。
これが終わって10年後に土浦でデッキアップが見られるのは感慨深いものがありますね^_^
こうだったんだ一話…
色々あって見てなかったので嬉しい
なぜかは2話に続く
おやっさんに怒られてばかりだったシゲさんがね。偉くなったものだ。
1:13
灰皿用バケツ(煙缶)は赤く塗っておいた方がそれっぽくて良かったのに・・・
特2の整備班にしては、作業着やら服装が綺麗だな…
アニメ版だと汗とオイルと3日4日風呂に入れてない体臭の混じった臭いがしそうな整備班って、イメージ…
まぁまともにレイバー動きませんし…
もはや現実世界と同じになっちまってらぁ…
Thank you for this
シゲさんが班長になってる正当な世界線
シゲさんのくせに偉そうだけど😂
押井守さんの現実なんてこんなもんだよ、が活きる時とそうじゃない時があって、コレはそうじゃない方だなぁ。
昔、劇場版記念宣伝(トレーラー)トラックで列島横断の際の海老名と八王子の思い出は今でも覚えている♪
榊班長がこのシゲさんの有様みてたら、カミナリおちるだろうな〜(笑)
『シゲ!俺はおめ〜を独裁者にするために俺の全てを叩きこんだんじゃねー!!ナ○スの高官みたいな真似するんだったら、下っ端からやりなおしてこい!!
』
と叱られそう。この人はOVAの火の七日間から成長してない。
エロ回😂
I like how the seiyuu appeared in live action...
これを見るとウルトラマンZのストレージの整備班を思いだし、ストレージ整備班を見るとアニメのパトレイバーの整備班を思いす
ブチヤマ・・・アサルトガールの「イェーガー」じゃんww
ピッタリすぎて草
Kiichi Goto = The Captain with Athlete's Foot
He always wore sandals due to that problem.
I AM SO HAPPY I FOUND THIS! 😊😊😍😍😍😊🤗🤗🤩
The revelation that Noa and Asuma got hitched is... not much of a surprise, actually. Vindication for shipping those two from the beginning, huh?
I suspect that Ota's involvement did nothing good for his private company's insurance premiums...
シゲさんは言うに及ばず、藤木義勝のブチヤマとか、仁科貴の整備員とか、よくもまあここまで旧シリーズの整備班と似た顔ぶれを連れてきたもんだよ。
けどこのイングラムのテクノロジーは必要に成ってくるんだ。二足歩行の為のバランスやらは米軍でも難しいんだから
DARPA is working with a bipedal robot, they are still far from a final product
この中に、今はプロレスラーになった
ウナギ・サヤカがいるんだよなぁ
後藤さんと大田の会社の下りに居るなあ
となりのメガネの女性整備員の横に
お荷物部署なのに整備士多すぎね?w
左遷された整備士の集まりでしょうね。
need a newer anime series for this era i miss the quarky humor
I would imagine that if we could make such devices, they would be great at a wide range of construction uses. Then the easiest way to handle them if they were used badly would be police versions. So the basic mission still makes sense. For military use? That option would have to be re-examined. However, I think there might still be a useful configuration.
In the opening of Patlabor 2, we saw military-grade mechs get torn up by 30mm AA cannons. While their mobility is fantastic, I don't think they would have seen much use outside of scouting, because there's just no way to maintain a Labor's mobility (the whole reason they were built) while armouring them heavily enough to survive more than simple anti-materiel weapons. This, on top of the significant maintenance challenges they pose.
Police Labors were even less armoured, as they were never intended to face military hardware to begin with, sacrificing durability for the mobility needed to physically wrestle rogue civilian mechs into submission.
Still, they proved their worth. One example that comes to mind is an incident in episode 25 of the TV series, where the conventional SWAT unit tried to handle a rogue Labor on their own, in a typical show of chest-thumping, and they couldn't do a damn thing to stop it, losing a number of cars in the process. Then SV2 got involved, and it was sorted out real quick.
@@Spudtron98 What an amazing and thoughtful reply. Thank you. In the series, there was an ongoing theme that the Patlabors were being studied for their potential military application. I can still see potential military applications. Imagine a tank that could walk? Still it does seem that the current trend in military tech is to go small as the balance between lethality of weapons and effectiveness of armor keeps swinging toward lethality. That could change though as materials science keeps working the problem.
シン・ビューティフルドリーム
いい夢を見させてもらった
初代キョウリュウバイオレット❤
作業着綺麗すぎ!
HOLY CRAP THIS IS SO COOL!!!!!!!!!!!! 😫😫😫😫
It's depressing to hear, but I think the rant is also really interesting because it represents how different the future is looking for us now compared to the future of it Patlabor, all the way back in the 80's, when the Japanese economy seemed unstoppable and tech seemed to be going in a particular direction, had predicted. Although Patlabor still hit the mark on a lot of topics, including the prevalence of unmanned craft being the new trend of the future, it was a series that prided itself on the realism of its setting and that very thing has shifted.
Did it work for a new series setup? I dunno, it didn't seem to help it. I think the concept of Patlabor can easily be adjusted to reflect more contemporary times and views of the future with a soft reboot, while this chose to exist in the movie continuity. (I think the general cast of the "next generation" being kinda weak didn't help either.) but all that said, in a vaccuum, this monologue is sort of interesting, even if very depressing for a mecha fan to hear.
You don't need to do much to retool Patlabor for the modern era. Just change the aesthetic a bit so they're using something better than mere floppy disks, and the rest comes together.
My soul is crushed...
平家物語の前に祇園精舎言ってるとは思わなかった
Mamoru oshii.. special works
2m以外の二足歩行ロボットなら、介護福祉士や医療方面で必要だべさ
後、宇宙開発。
災害復興の作業も人形が理想らしいですよね
10:43 ロバート秋山にしか見えなくなってきた
A living breathing character assassination of the concept of mecha itself, from one of its former champions. Is our era really over?
This is literally Mamorus entire schtick. His work has always been a deconstruction of the genre. And all his projects hve been similar in deconstructing the genre. Macross plus for example, or even ghost in the shell. Or even his OG patlabor work.
I personally don't really consider this character assassination as much as I do Mamoru venting about the shift in our real world times. The future that Patlabor predicted in the 80's, is looking pretty different by today's standards. Also even back then, one of Patlabor's big qualities was its justification for bipedal mecha, going to great lengths of in universe detail to justify them while still presenting a very believable future. And what does keep the concept of mecha alive if not just sheer love of the concept, if "fetishization" is too harsh a word? I believe he's venting the frustration in feeling it much more difficult to do that, at least with Patlabor's original setting, in a way that feels believable. (which makes me wonder why they set this in the movie continuity to begin with rather than simply reboot it but thats an aside.)
My two cents though is I don't think the era of mecha is gone, but times have definitely changed. The heyday of mecha that Patlabor knew is gone, which I believe is being lamented here a bit' but I don't believe the concept is gone.
What does Macross Plus have to do with Oshii though?
@jarik7658 I remember reading somewhere once he was involved in the project. Of course when I need to cross check and reference it I can't find it anymore. Which means I probably just misremembered some part of it. Though, even other projects he was involved in like urusei yatsura movie 2 show all of his usual elements at work too.
すみませんが違和感しかなかったです。
果たしてシゲさんが現場のトップになったとして
部下にタオルやカップを差し出させ、何もかもやらせるまるで漫画の中の独裁者のような状況を良しとするでしょうか?
出世して、悪い方向に人が変わったという事ですかね。
やっぱ押井守はアニメがいいよ
1:52 song name????
バナナマンの日村さんも出せばよかったのにww
押井さんはとにかくレイバーというかロボが嫌いだってのは良く分かったよ・・・
整備士達がどっかの専門学校生にしか見えない
メガちゃん❤
警察官がフォークリフトの二人乗りをしてはいけませんw
整備班でもダメですw
I can see why this flopped hard in Japan. Its all doom and gloom for most of the original cast.
yeah, I really hate how they badly treated the original SV2 members like this, even if off-screen. And the generation of SV2 members are pretty much stand-in for the original members minus their likability.
Since this is set in the movies timeline, the original SV2 was already disbanded by the time of Patlabor 2 movie, but they deserved better that this, even if after the 2nd movie's ending.
シゲさんはこんな偉ぶってるような感じじゃないんだよなぁ
なんていうか、「調子にのる」事はあっても、こんな物言いや考え態度はしないはず
Please upload Tokyo War
「レイバーはジャイアントロボでもマジンガーでもないし・・・」というセリフがこの時代に成立するのもリメイクの恩恵というか、出来レース感を思わずにはいられないが、それを置いても収益確保できると考えられるのはスゴいというか、趣味に大枚突っ込んだというか・・・
とはいえ、CG製作の部分は趣味の世界なので低製作費でも何とかなりそうですね。
興行収入が目標超えすれば、サビ残を含む無給で映画製作を手伝った協力者へも還元できるといいですね。
10:50くらいからの隊歌なのか行進か分かりませんが、揃いが悪く更新としては見られたものではないので、その後に叱咤激励のギャグがあるのかと思いましたがスルーするという、何が言いたかったのか分かりかねる映像でしたが、ここでやりたかったことが分かる方は教えて頂けないでしょうか?
OCE監督は榊班長が嫌いでシゲさんが好き。だから、お気に入りの柴さん演じるシゲさんに榊の劣化コピー品やらせるんだと思う。榊は確かに職人気質で頑固親父だったけど、この映画のシゲさんみたいに、整備員を召使みたいには扱ってなかった。
arigato!!
真野ちゃんの顔がハッキリと映されてないのが残念。
シゲさん😅 ハンガー内は禁煙🚭では❓❓?。
この真っ白な作業着見るだけで仕事したことねーんだろうなーって思うわ。
後藤さんなにやってんのよ( ´~` )
シゲさんが千葉繁さんご本人な所「だけ」はいいけど
初代第二小隊メンバーをボロカスに言わせている時点で
この映画に観る価値は無い。
シゲさんはそんな事言わない。
ノアちゃんを少女とかいうなよ、れっきとした20代だよ。
正当な続編なのに
主要キャラの
ネーミングセンスだけが残念…
もっとCGなどを使って、『エンタメ』にふりきったレイバーが動くシーンつくれば良いのに………。
人間の気だるい・やる気の無い、登場人物が『レイバーの存在を否定』する「群像劇」ってダレトクなんでしょうか……?
💧😅😿🌈
Honestly, the live action just too comically exaggerate even the intro...sorry~
5人で練り上げた作品の続きを1人に作らせたら、そりゃこうなりますわな。
良さがきっちり8割減してる。
しげさんがオープニングを?
Matane buta pejabat America pupuk bumi rak ndue harga diri.
整備班は、確かに体育会系だったけど、こんな反社みたいたいな上下関係だった?
表現が大袈裟過ぎの様な気がする。
this is one big BS live version! totally NG!!!
あー冒頭で見る気を無くしたヤツ。
押井の悪癖、金がなくなったら他人の作品弄ってチャンコロにするヤツ。
もう少し妥当な登場人物のその後とか、レイバー全否定とか。
どうにかならなかったのか。
そもそも、パトレイバーでそれをしたかったんだよ。
泉は、「オタクの妄想の具現化でキモイ」
イングラムは、「あんなヒーローロボットありえん」
だから、パトレイバーのあの作風(第1話から片腕吹っ飛ぶ、全然活躍しない、上海亭が目立つ)が生まれた。
権利者(東北新社と創通)に正式に依頼されて仕事として監督を引き受けただけだぞ
しかも1度は「自分流でしか作れないから他のメンバーにやらせてくれ」と断ってる
でも「好きにやっていいから押井版を作れ」と言われたので引き受けただけ
大所帯だな
装備品の真横でタバコなんて、あり得ないのだが。
昔は別にありえなくもない
すべて現代基準で考えるの辞めな
まだ冒頭2分しか見てないけど駄作確定だな
シゲさんが部下にあんな態度取るわけがない
見終わったけどひどいな
なんだあの歌と行進
美術スタッフはよくやったと思う
ほか褒めるとこねーな
毎度思うのは何でイングラムが出戻りだったんだろ…普通にヴァリアント使えよ
대체 왜 실사화를 하는거야? 무슨 생각인거야?
実写はほんとゴミなんだよなぁ
押井「どうせ宇宙でドンパチが観たいんだろ」
There they go again, being all deep and philosophical to get in the way of telling a story at a reasonable pace. I get it, the Japanese fought for the wrong side of the fence once and felt bad about it, but get over it already and tell us a story fitting to the medium. If I want to listen to somebody yammer around about existence and meaning for half an hour I'd read a book. This is Patlabor!
....... *Did you even WATCH the movies?*
@@StormsandSaugeye Seriously. The second movie has some of the most biting commentary about post war japanese society of any japanese movie in general. The various series's themselves are littered with social commentary. It's an integral part of Patlabor's DNA by merit of its status as a police procedural drama.
If that's not your thing Tomas thats fine, but *THAT* is Patlabor. Also, "get over it already?" Jesus, the arrogance.