In thick mud and very rocky cuts you always pick up your can and close the apron before you turn. If you turn you'll make the dozer catch a tire, and you'll get stuck.
That guy on the D8 didn't know what he was doing. Pushing while he's turning, lifting the scraper's back wheels off the ground, digging himself a hole he couldn't get out of.........
@jamiemasterson1 What you say is true, the 2nd scraper should have gone the way of previous or to the left of the cut, if you look at the beginning of the video operator of the D8 instructions on where they should go, but they tend during cutting to go right, and the 2nd scraper was even more, we demonstrate a lack of attention to what was possibly happen before with the 1 that almost got stuck too
Lol. Funny stuff. Company I worked for had a policy. If you got stuck, no big deal. If you got stuck in the same hole with the first guy stuck,you got fired! Simple solution here guys. Don’t think that dozer is invincible. It’s heavy, and it will sink! Get a clue. Pans aren’t made to haul mud. Bring in the other pan, no way you can stick 3 machines...ha ha ha
this aint nothing compared to i-80 in central iowa in 1963! we had to pull the scrapers thru the mud with a 100 foot cable! felt sorry for the laborer that had to hook us up! like to have a dollar for every load of mud i hauled that summer!
2nd 621 operator sucked. His bowl was full, he should had dropped the apron and lifted his cutting edge sooner. I've been in that muck before and you can't cut too long or you just build up a huge barrier.
the dozer man was no good,he wouldnt a got stuck at all if he wasnt pushing and turning at the same time,he dug himself a hole,he shoulda squared up on the back of the scraper before trying to push it
They can load the Boal high even those the it wet the dozer just has to do a longer push.that all.. the dozer driver can only push .you as to lift ur boil and get of there fast
I operated a 621 for several years. It is difficult to pick up loose dirt. The machines are designed to operate in uncut ground. The loose dirt is what is causing the scrapers to get stuck. Scrapers that have paddles can pick up loose dirty very easily.
saudade do 619 dacaterpila 621 e das maquinas mais antigas que eram com guincho e a cabo e com embriagem e acambio o D8 36a da caterpila que tempo bom era aquele da marmita.
Lol bit off to much running down that hill. I’m no brainiac but you can tell the way those tracks was digging up that soil way to easy. You know it’s gonna bite ya in the ass soooner than later
instead of the 2nd scraper starting a new cut to the right, he should have went in the same cut as the 1st scraper to try and get a decent road or path through that shitty topsoil --- then work your way over to the right --- half a bowl at a time --- scrapers were loaded to heavy --- d8 operator should have signaled to the scraper guy to pick-up on bowl sooner and push him out w a lighter load
Looks to me like the dozer driver, (notice I said driver, not operator) fiddled around till he stuck it on purpose. He was comming out in forward every time but the last. He'd always stop and back it back in and spin a little deeper till he couldn't pull forward no more. Then shows that he was right about it being too wet by throwing his hands up. The boss ort to give him a shovel and make him dig around and under it the rest of the day. Doing that would get rid of a bad attitude one way or the other. He'd respect his job or leave.
when I was a kid , I bogged my grandfathers tractor to the arse, he gave me a shovel and I spent the whole day digging it out. I have never taken a shortcut across a paddock or bogged a tractor since
Não fale assim, infelizmente esse acontecido foi uma sequencia de movimentos que deram errados e outros que foram se sucedendo, o oporador do D8, disse para todos irem por um lado e os scrapers foram por outro, e dai foi causando os problemas, como gravei ai podemos ver os erros, mas na hora as vezes isso não é possivel, vida que segue!
no one knew that there was wet at that point and sink, and treacherous terrain, the entire region is nearly 1 meter of topsoil, after arriving at the firm
Without knowing how deep the mud is, it's a bit hard to say what should be done. I would have tried to load out further down and try to get down to some firm ground. Then you could start loading further back as you progressed, this would also save having fully loaded Scrapers stirring up the mud, as they came through. I don't think twin engined Scrapers would have done much better, in that situation.
He dug too deep and got a full load too quick. Could've skimmed it a bit more shallow and got all the way to the end of the cut b4 being loaded. Wouldn't have been stuck. Never dropped his apron either. Just a little inexperienced...lol
no fim do video tem o link na tela do D8N sendo rebocado pela escavadeira!! olha la, ou vai nos meu videos enviados e voce vai encontrar la, obrigado pela visita!
I would guess that he is trying to shift the weight to the back of the track to get more traction but in those conditions it obviously didn’t work as most have pointed out these conditions were crap and my conclusion is the scraper drivers did know what they were doing They were fair weather guys
@@jimthayer9837 I am a heavy equipement instructor. It is my job to teach people like this how to operate machinery like this. And I say operator error on several levels, overconfidence is one of them.
I know a guy who would have buried it to the stack before stoping atleast he stopped before it got really bad. I dont think the low draw bar helped very much
ela se carrega sozinha, mas o trator serve para o carregamento ser mais rapido, vc faz carregamentos de 14 metros em 30 segundos, esse tempo de carrgamento é o mesmo para os maiores, ate o 666 se estiver com a maquina certa se carrega 40 metros em 30 a 40 segundos. Isso se chama carregamento por empuxo.Obrigado pela visita
Cool vid - Funny though - I was checking out the background scenery, it looks really nice like it's somewhere in California. Where was that location and what was the project?
Esses vídeos nunca serão apagados da memória história de luta e coragem parabéns Deus abençoe sempre
That looks like a serious mud pit. A stuck 8N is a serious mud pit for sure... Good Luck Guys.
Que época boa que tive trabalhei muito tempo em uma construtora, sempre gostei de estrada contribui muitas obras pelo o nosso belo PAÍS
Ni CT
Ni
Когда был СССР , работал на скепере и автогрейдере, работы было много, было хорошее время. Сейчас Раша, работы нет, и платят мало😢
I love all these armchair operators.
The ground is very bad for scrapers. Very nice and intersting catch!
Me lembro bem na empresa Cowan tinha essa máquina bruta...que trabalha muito bem...muito ágil
That throbbing noise that can be imagined starting at about 6:00 is the foreman's blood pressure escalating.
The error is at 4:53. The dozer operator stops and reverses at the most critical moment for him to continue pushing.
AI SIM É MAQUINA MUITO BOM
In thick mud and very rocky cuts you always pick up your can and close the apron before you turn. If you turn you'll make the dozer catch a tire, and you'll get stuck.
621 é uma máquina maravilhosa, top
Eu gostei muito do trator de esteira mesmo
Wonderful, these chaotic operators
These are skilled operators all they need is another dozer on site to push the stuck one backwards and out and they would continue on their way.
That guy on the D8 didn't know what he was doing. Pushing while he's turning, lifting the scraper's back wheels off the ground, digging himself a hole he couldn't get out of.........
Its a bit rough digging . But didn't the old scraper sound well .She roared out like a gooden .Bring back the straight through exhausts .
@jamiemasterson1
What you say is true, the 2nd scraper should have gone the way of previous or to the left of the cut, if you look at the beginning of the video operator of the D8 instructions on where they should go, but they tend during cutting to go right, and the 2nd scraper was even more, we demonstrate a lack of attention to what was possibly happen before with the 1 that almost got stuck too
I love it when they start pointing.. and yelling..
tj0
Going to wait for Sommer now......
Maquinário fera a geografia dO terreno . calma tudo vai dar certo ok
Very Nice Very good
Top parceiro
Instead of digging himself in hole in reverse , He had enough room to lock right track and get out of that mess.
Exactly..
Hello! He's a mexican. 99% can't figure out how to operate machinery like that correctly.
Бульдозерист и кэт красавчики
Been there, done that. That is one job I don't miss.
Olá amigo eu jatraballei com vó seis Wilson moso com o pai de le traballei lá em Cuiabá em perus um abração
que bom, eu conheci um dos filhos onde esse video foi feito, empresa boa, pena que não esta mais na ativa.
Why a backup alarm on a dozer?
Lol. Funny stuff. Company I worked for had a policy. If you got stuck, no big deal. If you got stuck in the same hole with the first guy stuck,you got fired! Simple solution here guys. Don’t think that dozer is invincible. It’s heavy, and it will sink! Get a clue. Pans aren’t made to haul mud. Bring in the other pan, no way you can stick 3 machines...ha ha ha
this aint nothing compared to i-80 in central iowa in 1963! we had to pull the scrapers thru the mud with a 100 foot cable! felt sorry for the laborer that had to hook us up! like to have a dollar for every load of mud i hauled that summer!
They are like a bunch of kids playing!
I reckon half these vids are staged,, fake
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Well lad's let's head on over to Pub....
Eu sempre gostei de máquinas antigas
Sonho de criança aos 12 anos tive minha chance Caterpillar 621 B coisa de louco
2nd 621 operator sucked. His bowl was full, he should had dropped the apron and lifted his cutting edge sooner. I've been in that muck before and you can't cut too long or you just build up a huge barrier.
the dozer man was no good,he wouldnt a got stuck at all if he wasnt pushing and turning at the same time,he dug himself a hole,he shoulda squared up on the back of the scraper before trying to push it
They can load the Boal high even those the it wet the dozer just has to do a longer push.that all.. the dozer driver can only push .you as to lift ur boil and get of there fast
Sou operador destas máquina não tou mas na ativa mas sinto paixao
será q conseguiram teraro trator???
" Hastala vista, baby! " :D
Remedy: Fire the forman. What a clusterfuck
As I understand it dug so I can better push the scraper, but was also jamming
Too wet?
that dozer should never stop moving if you're tending to scrapers
Yes!!!!
Aí.sim. saudade
Muito louco meu chapa doideira pura
That has to be his first day on a dozer oh my God !
Hope their not on by the hour
.gees
time for a coffee..
I operated a 621 for several years. It is difficult to pick up loose dirt. The machines are designed to operate in uncut ground. The loose dirt is what is causing the scrapers to get stuck. Scrapers that have paddles can pick up loose dirty very easily.
Tyⁿ.. 0
@6str8up I can't see from the video but maybe he was just trying to cut the mud out down to firm ground for good traction
Those guys are what’s referred to as a “heartbeat on a seat”. Lol
saudade do 619 dacaterpila 621 e das maquinas mais antigas que eram com guincho e a cabo e com embriagem e acambio o D8 36a da caterpila que tempo bom era aquele da marmita.
Obrigado pela vistia, sim vejo que o Sr. é das antigas, tempo bom que se foi, espero que tenha gostado video, e dos outros!
great video! start digging LOL
Lol bit off to much running down that hill. I’m no brainiac but you can tell the way those tracks was digging up that soil way to easy. You know it’s gonna bite ya in the ass soooner than later
uma maquina que show de bola
tudo tem solução . Pensar
Thats why you strip that junk sod off with the dozer first and pile it up to the side then have them scrape it later
And let that bloke in the dozer work it out.. incredible....
I want to know where this was - is it in the UK? The landscape looks like England.
Brasil que pena
Brasil
yup just keep spinning
j20
MARAVILHA
لا يمكن أن يعمل الترنبول او بلدوزر في مثل هاذي الأرض يحتاح إلى أرض قوة جدا كي تتحمل هاذي المعدات الثقيلة
instead of the 2nd scraper starting a new cut to the right, he should have went in the same cut as the 1st scraper to try and get a decent road or path through that shitty topsoil --- then work your way over to the right --- half a bowl at a time --- scrapers were loaded to heavy --- d8 operator should have signaled to the scraper guy to pick-up on bowl sooner and push him out w a lighter load
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auch hier bin ich voll begeistert.....
Scrappers are fair weather macines they do not do mud. Silly rockys......
Looks to me like the dozer driver, (notice I said driver, not operator) fiddled around till he stuck it on purpose. He was comming out in forward every time but the last. He'd always stop and back it back in and spin a little deeper till he couldn't pull forward no more. Then shows that he was right about it being too wet by throwing his hands up. The boss ort to give him a shovel and make him dig around and under it the rest of the day. Doing that would get rid of a bad attitude one way or the other. He'd respect his job or leave.
when I was a kid , I bogged my grandfathers tractor to the arse, he gave me a shovel and I spent the whole day digging it out. I have never taken a shortcut across a paddock or bogged a tractor since
Steve D Yes sir, it's amazing at how much knowledge and skill ye can soak up by spending an enjoyable day on the end of a good D-handle
Steve D
Nonickname I love shovelling almost as much as running equipment, I just like moving dirt
Bet them tires got big chunks cut out of them from dozer blade.....
Isso Acontece ficar tranquilo ok.
Tough mudding I suspect
6:44 what he did is he dug the whole underneath him even more by lifting the top.
Hai perfettamente ragione e' sempre una Caterpillar amico.
why don't you wait till things dry up??
moral of the story -- don't try to find the bottom of a triassic basin
Volvo trucks and excavators would work circles around this mess
tem muita força
A Lopes moço tá contratando tratorista, gostei dos máquinario
Eita enxada mau amolada 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Não fale assim, infelizmente esse acontecido foi uma sequencia de movimentos que deram errados e outros que foram se sucedendo, o oporador do D8, disse para todos irem por um lado e os scrapers foram por outro, e dai foi causando os problemas, como gravei ai podemos ver os erros, mas na hora as vezes isso não é possivel, vida que segue!
FAZE CRÍTICA DE LONGE É FÁCIL DIFÍCIL É SER O OPERADOR DO D8
Wow! What a mess!
no one knew that there was wet at that point and sink, and treacherous terrain, the entire region is nearly 1 meter of topsoil, after arriving at the firm
Both got fired and had their greencards revoked!
Hggoi
why are they trying to lead mud? yeh, pick up the back of the scraper, that`ll made it work better. I`d be real proud of that video
Nossa o terreno ta encharcado forca demais o equipamento !!!!
But the operators lack in brains.
Without knowing how deep the mud is, it's a bit hard to say what should be done. I would have tried to load out further down and try to get down to some firm ground. Then you could start loading further back as you progressed, this would also save having fully loaded Scrapers stirring up the mud, as they came through. I don't think twin engined Scrapers would have done much better, in that situation.
To much weight in the back
GoD
Who taught him to drive a Cat???
That's what I thought....a bit too mucky to be doing that on that day there.
He dug too deep and got a full load too quick. Could've skimmed it a bit more shallow and got all the way to the end of the cut b4 being loaded. Wouldn't have been stuck. Never dropped his apron either. Just a little inexperienced...lol
Será que já consegui desativar a D8
no fim do video tem o link na tela do D8N sendo rebocado pela escavadeira!! olha la, ou vai nos meu videos enviados e voce vai encontrar la, obrigado pela visita!
why would the dozer operator dig himself deeper?
can I say not too bright LOL
Wow... painful.
Looks to me like all 3 are no hopers !
could someone PLEASE explain why he lowers his blade thus creating more drag and getting stuck for sure....?
I would guess that he is trying to shift the weight to the back of the track to get more traction but in those conditions it obviously didn’t work as most have pointed out these conditions were crap and my conclusion is the scraper drivers did know what they were doing They were fair weather guys
@@jimthayer9837 I am a heavy equipement instructor. It is my job to teach people like this how to operate machinery like this. And I say operator error on several levels, overconfidence is one of them.
I agree with that totally
Don't load so heavy
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Pause half way through, why are they still trying to scrape when it's so hard just going?
I know a guy who would have buried it to the stack before stoping atleast he stopped before it got really bad.
I dont think the low draw bar helped very much
Qual a vantagem duma maquina dessa ? Que precisa de.outra pra empurrá.
ela se carrega sozinha, mas o trator serve para o carregamento ser mais rapido, vc faz carregamentos de 14 metros em 30 segundos, esse tempo de carrgamento é o mesmo para os maiores, ate o 666 se estiver com a maquina certa se carrega 40 metros em 30 a 40 segundos. Isso se chama carregamento por empuxo.Obrigado pela visita
Cool vid - Funny though - I was checking out the background scenery, it looks really nice like it's somewhere in California. Where was that location and what was the project?
Brazil. São paulo!
Those 3 need another bowl
Yep to wet to work just looking to make big mess
Hell yea get that mud out!