Americans were too afraid of Geronimo. They should have allowed him to go to his home territory in the end as he was already about 80 years old. I read that Geronimo used to hang with Mangas in Santa Rita NM where my Native grandparents were from. Reyes my great grandfather lived his entire life in Santa Rita, it's on his death certificate. Reyes and his father were in an internment camp in the mid 1800's. Get that? Not an reservation but an internment camp.
They don’t care my own people thank god im not like them any American Indian that reads this know I deeply sorry for what we did but also very impressed with your strength as a people.. least they could do if fix the head on his tombstone
@@leonlopez7721 A lot of people were afraid of Geronimo and with good reason, but it was the Mexicans he hated. Not trying to put them down but Mexican soldiers destroyed his entire beloved family. Europeans didn't. Geronimo found his entire family dead and didn't even have time to bury them! I'm positive they caused him to go rather insane.
The beginning of this video was tough to listen to... This white man's jovial comments about "Chief Geronimo" (also erroneously referenced on sign of "Geronimo Died Here" and "famed war chief") when referring to the guardhouse as a place of "lots of free room and board" and "Geronimo's Hotel" followed by laughter, he seemed to think the Apache plight was funny. His constant "chief" reference throughout the video is particularly galling. He and his wife look like nice people, but he should have educated himself prior to making a video like this...
His laughter kinda got to me too. Geronimo wasn’t an angel, but none of us know what we would have done in his shoes. There’s one thing you can’t take from him. He was one hell of a warrior, but never a Chief. 5000 men chased Geronimo and his band of about 20 all over the SW and Mexico for months and months. They never captured him. He finally surrendered under certain terms. Of which, as usual, our government reneged on. So, for people to claim he got what he deserved, I disagree. The famous Indians of that time, their word was solid. It was always the white man that reneged on the deal.
I would just like to say thank you for keeping the different signs up long enough for someone like myself who can’t read very fast. And good video sir.
As I was stationed at fort sill for my mos training, 72-73, I ventured for a walk to the great chiefs grave who I had heard and learned about all my life, it was a long hot Sunday walk on a dirt road, I believe about 12 mile round trip, but well worth it and I never have forgotten the experience, took many pictures, which I still have and something not many people can talk about.
Then do what Cheif Geronimo requested Take me out of your cemetery an put me back on Indian Land Sacred LAND Let him rest with our his people Does not want concentration camp or your bondage in death Truth
Thank you for the great video. Very nice job. I also would like to address all of our Native American's in saying that I am very sorry for all of the hardship's & ill-treatment's that your fore-father's had to endure. In my reading's of Indian history such as "Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee", my heart aches as I read some of the atrocities that the Native American's had to endure. Bless all of those people & lest us not forget. Illinois, USA
Geronimo receive lots of free room and board there. Well I bet he really appreciated that. If you knew the whole story it would make you sick to your stomach
Meaning what way american people treated natives ?? Disgusts me how america plays referee to world after what did natives and no wo der never wanted war with nazis there not far off same as them .. was only 40 50 years still treating natives like dogs
Hi Ken Bootscuttin around and found your channel glad i did because the interest i have in Chiricahua Apache history {{ i have a ranch in Cochise County.. all my wranglers are Chiricahua Apace Indians... great guys know horses can talk to all animals they have a soothing effect on stressed out horse.. also they can handle any rattlers that stray into the corrals ... i have witnessed a Apace Dream Catcher.. Dance.. awesome.. each brave will hold live rattlesnakes and to the sound of a Apace war drum and the chant of a medicine man they dance no one gets bitten Ok Ken see-ya now....Ed
I was stationed at Fort Sill for AIT back in fall of 1968, a few months before going to Vietnam. I remember checking out Geronimo's grave and thinking how cool that was. I was only 19 years-old and grew up on Cape Cod, and never traveled out of New England area. As a baby boomer I grew up watching lots of television, especially the westerns that ruled t.v. and movies when I was growing up.
I too was in the Army in 1968 and taking my AIT at Ft. Gordon, GA ... I was 19 years old too .. I grew up in a very small Texas town where we played six man .football ... the Army sent me to West Berlin, Germany ... I never did go to Vietnam as many of my friends did ... anyway, I am glad you enjoyed my youtube video .... and thanks for watching .... regards ... Ken B. ...
My G-G-G-Grandfather was an Apache chief on my dad's mother's side. She looked just like Geronimo! So he is likely an G-G-G uncle at least? I'm proud to say one side of my family has been here 12,000 to 15,000 years! The apache, Comanche, and Kiowa were all part of the Athabaskan tribe that crossed the Bering Straight land bridge to come here.
Dont believe crossed bering id believe they came more from. South of America.. and findingskulls recently with fair hair and red hair which aztecs and anyone in South America shouldn't have science has it all wrong I believe
@@unionrdr might be rite if I was guess I'd say papa new guinea and was before chrjs columbus and long voyage boats .. but came fro. Papa new guinea then next stop would been Easter Island then if was guess Peru due signage on coast of Peru is meant be so.e sort navigation sign on mountains of coast.. but that guess id doubt was bering straight .. more likely started more south and headed up towards north and thats why Eskimos are genetically similar in looks to native Americans and South americans
Geronimo is my Hero, I went to his grave. How sad that our government still disrespects him. His grave is neglected and should be restored. In my opinion, he is one of the world's greatest men ever. But how much of Native history is lost to the world?
I was just there 2 days ago and it was fine. Go to a reservation grave yard and look around. Trash everywhere. Those people don't maintain any of thier stuff or graveyards.
Geronimo's body should be moved to his beloved Arizona and buried there, in the Chiricahua Mountains, where he and his tribe, the Chiricahua Apaches, lived and roamed, along with the other famous Apache Chief, Cochise. Geronimo was moved to Oklahoma not under his own free will, but because that's where the U.S. Government moved him to and where he died. The Chiricahua Mountains are just about 30 miles North from the city of Douglas, and not far from the old western town of Tombstone. Since the Govt. had no respect for him in life, they should have respect for him in death, and move his body to Arizona and bury him there.... the place that he LOVED!!!
R.I.P. Geronimo..and all the others Indians.. who died for Freedom and understanding Nature and everything what lives in. I'll be shamed for every White People who don't understand there way for living, and robbed the Land of the Indians Ancestors. Hope this great Warriors be in Heaven side by side with all there great and proud Ancestors.
Been to Fort Sill, home of the Army's Artillery School when my son was there in 2000. Did not see Geronimo's grave but went into the cell he was kept in at the time...
I was there in 1977 ft.sill for training, I never even knew about GERONIMO'S grave back then, I was shipped to West Germany afterwards, Well I finally visited in 2009 & 10 & 2011, better late than never !
Geronimo's grave is very nice, but I doubt if Geronimo is in peace there. Geronimo would have liked to have been buried in his native land of Arizona. I hope someday his grave will be moved to Arizona or New Mexico where he spend a lot of his life with the Apaches of Santa Rita New Mexico. I used to visit relatives in Santa Rita as a child. Little did I know that Geronimo walked those grounds! Santa Rita was wonderful even though it is considered a dump by some people. I can't even take my kids to Santa Rita as a mining company destroyed Santa Rita. My ancestors graves were moved else where as was my great Grandfather's old adobe house. I still remember his Fascinating ancient outhouse with ancient wood! By that time I was a city kid from Los Angeles and couldn't get over the use of an outhouse! My grandmother told me I ( age 5) would look around the inside of the outhouse like "what the hell?".
It was Geronimo's desire to be returned to Arizona so that he could die and be buried in his beloved Chiricahua Mountains. President Theodore Roosevelt continually denied these requests because of the great fear of Apaches being returned to their native homes. I, too, have hoped that Geronimo's descendants would have pushed for him to be laid to rest in his desired homeland.
@Richard McCraw I think the outhouse was used a lot anyway I never heard of a rattlesnake harming anyone there but you never know. I once went to the Santa Rosa Plateau in Riverside Ca. in Murrieta, CA and my family and I found a rattlesnake den under a large metal slab! Most were baby rattlesnakes! A den of them! They were afraid of us as well. We left them alone! Google The Santa Rosa Plateau and go to images! It's nice there! There is an old adobe ranch house there! I think it was in the movie The Missing with Cate Blanchett. The Rattlesnake den was near the old Adobe ranch! They used to leave the doors open only jerks started destroying things. :(
Thank you for this great video. I was stationed at Sill from 87-93. Went to Geronimo’s grave site a few times. Brings back memories of days gone bye. Thank you for this excellent video.
My father was stationed at Ft. Sill when I was young. I visited there in 1979 when I was just 15 years old. It still looks exactly the same. I can't believe it has been 40 years.
The head stone to the right of Geronimos marker is Jason Betzinez who wrote a book called "I fought with Geronimo" Telling first hand accounts. Geronimo isn't actually buried here. The Tribe took him back to New Mexico a long time ago.
The U.S Army (Calvary) never had much luck against the Apaches, Apaches always seemed to be one step ahead of them, that is until they got some of them to turn against their own people and become scouts. Naturally after the Apache Wars essentially came to and end these scouts were immediately disarmed and thrown onto reservations and treated as 'adversaries'. What a surprise.
How could anyone forget Lawton, Oklahoma?! LOL!! Never thought I'd see pictures of Fort Sill again, or a 105 howitzer! I'm having flashbacks to 1968 and my 2 months AIT at Sill. All my training was on self-propelled howitzer's, and never saw one in 'Nam. Used 105 towed and 155 towed.
I was stationed at fort Sill in 1963 for six months took a i t then moved up to main Post or 26 weeks on the 175. I remember lake Elmer Thomas Mount Scott and medicine bluff legend has it Geronimo and his horse jumped off it and landed in the river below. I've seen recent pictures of Lawton.... There's nothing there that I recognize or remember unbelievable how things can change over 60 years I wonder how much force heal itself has changed. Good times good memories of Lawton and for sale thanks for posting.... I've always wondered about it.
Awesome Video of a great Leader a man many called A fighter, I am An Chiracahua from the Apache Land of Arizona, Geronimo is a Warrior and Fighter but never was a Chief, He was more of a Leader a Holy Man as many called him, had the interest of his people and protection, He was feared by many even among his own people they were afraid and feared when he walked among them as they would hide from Geronimo. as a Little Child i would remember my Grandmother telling the story of Old San Carlos and Cibecue Creek, The story goes on from Generation to Generation,
... oh yes, to the best of my knowledge Geronimo was a great Apache Indian Chief ... and a great Warrior too that made him a great Chief .... he was the last of the warrior indians to surrender to the U.S. Army .... he lived for many years afterwards at Ft. Sill, Oklahoma and could pretty much come and go as he pleased .... he and his family accepted Jesus and Christianity a few years before they all died .... thank you for watching my video and I am glad you enjoyed it ... regards .... Ken B.
Geronimo was never the chief of his people...he was a great shamen or see ir of thing or events to come. Naiche son of Cochise was the last hereditary chief of the Chiracauha..
When all who surrender to the white that gave up Geronimo and the Braves carry on the fight Geronimo military tactics out surpass the military drove them crazy trying to catch him.if he was a chief his name in the native American will live on for decades to come.
this is where I was 'hatched' as they used to truthfully tell me!! lol... NO WONDER I'm such a 'pain in the arse', there's an ENTIRE CEMETARY OF WARRIORS THERE!!! :O THANKS FOR POSTING THIS really appreciate it.. :))>3333333
@ 4:44 this is how I learned that my 'mom' lied to me my entire life about my birth and likely didn't carry me/adopted.... cus, MAKES MORE SENSE!! THANKS
Geronimo was one of our tribal members and he was a leader. From our tribe’s perspective, he was not a chief. Geronimo was a leader in our tribe, but not a major leader. He was a medicine man. He was not held in the same status or regard as chiefs within our tribe. However he is a person who did get a lot of attention from non-Apaches and so that has developed quite extensively and it’s to that extent that a lot of our people are even now being influenced by non-Apaches’ concepts of what Geronimo is and that our tribe should be based on what they think of Geronimo and how the image of Geronimo exists in their minds. When they hear about our tribe, the first thing they think of is Geronimo and once that name comes up, they have difficulty focusing on anything else. So, we have to work quite a bit to get that information across to them - that there are other aspects of the tribe other than simply Geronimo
I went to Ft. Sill to follow the life of Quanah Parker, who is buried at chiefs Knoll. I meant to see Geronimo's grave, but because it had rain hard the night before, the only road leading to the cemetery was closed. thanks for the video.
While in Pensacola I visited the cell with the hole in the roof where he crawled ot is escape from Fort Pickens. This was in the 70s now our pay as a tourist. We had great stories told to us from the older ones about this chie. He sold the buttons off his coat.
The cemetary has been cleaned up since my last visit. In which I am Thankful. There once was a tree that had thousands of scarfs tied to it. I did not see it in the video. I have family on my fathers side related to Geronimo, as well. As Cherokee from my mothers relations.
That awesome and the ending comments were great!! I was feeling kinda sad as i always watching these types of videos then you almost choke on my breakfast laughing!! Thank you
You may be thinking of the great Apache Chief Cochise, who is buried in an unknown location at Cochise Pass in his beloved Dragoon Mountains in Cochise County of southeastern Arizona.
There are more than one video on Geronimo's grave at Fort Sill, Oklahoma, but this one provided the best coverage. A lot of ignorant people think that Geronimo was wronged somehow. NOT true at all. The last chief of the Comanches, Quanah Parker, who had surrendered in 1875 became Americanized quite well and ended up extremely wealthy. Ergo, it was NEVER about what Americans had done to the Apaches. Geronimo had no body to blame for his fate other than himself.
I was stationed at NAS ( Naval Air Station ) Pensacola, Florida during the seventies. Pensacola Beach is a long peninsula that encloses the bay. At the furthest end is Fort Pickens, an old army base built prior to the War of 1812. After Geronimo surrendered, he and others of his warriors were housed as prisoners there prior to his final term on Florida's East coast. During the seventies, Fort Pickens was a state park where people had full access to the barracks of cells in the fort twenty-four seven. And, at night you could wonder about the open cells at your leisure. Geronimo's cell was massive of thick brick walls with a small creek running through the center of his cell. We, my Navy friends and I, "partied" within his cell. But, we did so in honor of Geronimo and we always cleaned after ourselves when leaving. And, of course, this started a life-long appreciation of Geronimo. To this day, I salute Geronimo whenever it is appropriate. Call it what you want, but, as far as I'm concerned, he was a native American worthy as a true opponent of the mass white invasion they suffered and bled for. And, he bore the scars of America's "Manifest Destiny" paid for by their blood.
My big Brother was in the U.S. ARMY and trained at Fort Sill. He was shooting them Howitzer big guns as a Heavy Artillery Fire support . He got to visit Geronimo's grave .
I find it sad that the greatest Indigenous peoples are buried in a “POW” cemetery. No matter how you cut it, Geronimo was still a prisoner.....
Geronimo is my kin on my Fathers side. I Am Proud to be an Apache.
... thank you for watching my video and I am glad you enjoyed it ... cheers ... Ken B.
How is he related to you? The reason I ask is because I am Apache and Geronimo was my Uncle on my mother's side. Apache proud!!
Debra Rusk My ancestors forced his surrender. Hee Haw!
Don't tell that to Trump! LOL!!
Oscar Robinson Trump 2020!
They should have let him go home to
Arizona
Americans were too afraid of Geronimo. They should have allowed him to go to his home
territory in the end as he was already about 80 years old. I read that Geronimo used to hang with Mangas in Santa Rita NM where my Native grandparents were from. Reyes my great grandfather lived his entire life in Santa Rita, it's on his death certificate. Reyes and his father were in an internment camp in the mid 1800's. Get that? Not an reservation but an
internment camp.
They don’t care my own people thank god im not like them any American Indian that reads this know I deeply sorry for what we did but also very impressed with your strength as a people.. least they could do if fix the head on his tombstone
@@diane4537 European Americans were too afraid of Geronimo .
@@leonlopez7721 A lot of people were afraid of Geronimo and with good reason, but it was the Mexicans he hated. Not trying to put them down but Mexican soldiers destroyed his entire beloved family. Europeans didn't. Geronimo found his entire family dead and didn't even have time to bury them! I'm positive they caused him to go rather insane.
The beginning of this video was tough to listen to... This white man's jovial comments about "Chief Geronimo" (also erroneously referenced on sign of "Geronimo Died Here" and "famed war chief") when referring to the guardhouse as a place of "lots of free room and board" and "Geronimo's Hotel" followed by laughter, he seemed to think the Apache plight was funny. His constant "chief" reference throughout the video is particularly galling. He and his wife look like nice people, but he should have educated himself prior to making a video like this...
His laughter kinda got to me too. Geronimo wasn’t an angel, but none of us know what we would have done in his shoes. There’s one thing you can’t take from him. He was one hell of a warrior, but never a Chief. 5000 men chased Geronimo and his band of about 20 all over the SW and Mexico for months and months. They never captured him. He finally surrendered under certain terms. Of which, as usual, our government reneged on. So, for people to claim he got what he deserved, I disagree. The famous Indians of that time, their word was solid. It was always the white man that reneged on the deal.
I would just like to say thank you for keeping the different signs up long enough for someone like myself who can’t read very fast.
And good video sir.
Thanks for being respectful.
As I was stationed at fort sill for my mos training, 72-73, I ventured for a walk to the great chiefs grave who I had heard and learned about all my life, it was a long hot Sunday walk on a dirt road, I believe about 12 mile round trip, but well worth it and I never have forgotten the experience, took many pictures, which I still have and something not many people can talk about.
Then do what Cheif Geronimo requested
Take me out of your cemetery an put me back on Indian Land Sacred LAND
Let him rest with our his people
Does not want concentration camp or your bondage in death
Truth
Thank you for the great video. Very nice job. I also would like to address all of our Native American's in saying that I am very sorry for all of the hardship's & ill-treatment's that your fore-father's had to endure. In my reading's of Indian history such as "Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee", my heart aches as I read some of the atrocities that the Native American's had to endure. Bless all of those people & lest us not forget. Illinois, USA
Geronimo receive lots of free room and board there. Well I bet he really appreciated that. If you knew the whole story it would make you sick to your stomach
Meaning what way american people treated natives ?? Disgusts me how america plays referee to world after what did natives and no wo der never wanted war with nazis there not far off same as them .. was only 40 50 years still treating natives like dogs
Hi Ken Bootscuttin around and found your channel glad i did because the interest i have in Chiricahua Apache history {{ i have a ranch in Cochise County.. all my wranglers are Chiricahua Apace Indians... great guys know horses can talk to all animals they have a soothing effect on stressed out horse.. also they can handle any rattlers that stray into the corrals ... i have witnessed a Apace Dream Catcher.. Dance.. awesome.. each brave will hold live rattlesnakes and to the sound of a Apace war drum and the chant of a medicine man they dance no one gets bitten Ok Ken see-ya now....Ed
Thank you for making a wonderful video. I am glad that he has such a dignified burial site.
... and thank you for watching my video and i am glad you enjoyed it ... cheers to all and regards ... Ken B.
I was stationed at Fort Sill for AIT back in fall of 1968, a few months before going to Vietnam. I remember checking out Geronimo's grave and thinking how cool that was. I was only 19 years-old and grew up on Cape Cod, and never traveled out of New England area. As a baby boomer I grew up watching lots of television, especially the westerns that ruled t.v. and movies when I was growing up.
I too was in the Army in 1968 and taking my AIT at Ft. Gordon, GA ... I was 19 years old too .. I grew up in a very small Texas town where we played six man .football ... the Army sent me to West Berlin, Germany ... I never did go to Vietnam as many of my friends did ... anyway, I am glad you enjoyed my youtube video .... and thanks for watching .... regards ... Ken B. ...
I was there in 93, C Battery 1/31 FA
At FortSill Indian School we had a excellent teacher,She was born in a prison of war camp & from Geronimos band.(Class of 71)
@@kblakney61 Hey Ken, you had about two more men per side than we had back then. LOL!!
Thank you for showing this. Im have Native American. Native to Mexico Arizona I would bring Geronimo a beer :)
... thank you for watching my video and I am glad you enjoyed it ... regards ... Ken B
Huitzilli ... No doubt he would have liked that .
My G-G-G-Grandfather was an Apache chief on my dad's mother's side. She looked just like Geronimo! So he is likely an G-G-G uncle at least? I'm proud to say one side of my family has been here 12,000 to 15,000 years! The apache, Comanche, and Kiowa were all part of the Athabaskan tribe that crossed the Bering Straight land bridge to come here.
Just fascinating!! Thankyou for sharing that!
My maternal Grandmother resembled Mangas! She was also from the Pinos Altos/Santa Rita region of New Mexico!
Dont believe crossed bering id believe they came more from. South of America.. and findingskulls recently with fair hair and red hair which aztecs and anyone in South America shouldn't have science has it all wrong I believe
@@barryohara6864 i've read that they came from both eastern Asia and South America of late.
@@unionrdr might be rite if I was guess I'd say papa new guinea and was before chrjs columbus and long voyage boats .. but came fro. Papa new guinea then next stop would been Easter Island then if was guess Peru due signage on coast of Peru is meant be so.e sort navigation sign on mountains of coast.. but that guess id doubt was bering straight .. more likely started more south and headed up towards north and thats why Eskimos are genetically similar in looks to native Americans and South americans
Geronimo is my Hero, I went to his grave. How sad that our government still disrespects him. His grave is neglected and should be restored. In my opinion, he is one of the world's greatest men ever. But how much of Native history is lost to the world?
I was just there 2 days ago and it was fine. Go to a reservation grave yard and look around. Trash everywhere. Those people don't maintain any of thier stuff or graveyards.
Very nice tribute to a legendary and great man. Thanks for doing this and sharing.
Best video I've seen all day. Helping me deal with this panicdemic were in. Thanks partner.🤠
Geronimo's body should be moved to his beloved Arizona and buried there, in the Chiricahua Mountains, where he and his tribe, the Chiricahua Apaches, lived and roamed, along with the other famous Apache Chief, Cochise. Geronimo was moved to Oklahoma not under his own free will, but because that's where the U.S. Government moved him to and where he died. The Chiricahua Mountains are just about 30 miles North from the city of Douglas, and not far from the old western town of Tombstone. Since the Govt. had no respect for him in life, they should have respect for him in death, and move his body to Arizona and bury him there.... the place that he LOVED!!!
R.I.P. Geronimo..and all the others Indians.. who died for Freedom and understanding Nature and everything what lives in.
I'll be shamed for every White People who don't understand there way for living, and robbed the Land of the Indians Ancestors.
Hope this great Warriors be in Heaven side by side with all there great and proud Ancestors.
Thank you . I liked this .. us natives are still here .. resilient and proud as always .. and will continue to be here. ❤️❤️
I enjoyed your video very helpful information, probably never will get to visit there but you brought it right into my home. Thanks again.
did you fart @9:13 ?
Free room and board? He was a political prisoner, and would have traded any “free” room and board for freedom.
Been to Fort Sill, home of the Army's Artillery School when my son was there in 2000. Did not see Geronimo's grave but went into the cell he was kept in at the time...
That is cool!
I was there in 1977 ft.sill for training, I never even knew about GERONIMO'S grave back then, I was shipped to West Germany afterwards, Well I finally visited in 2009 & 10 & 2011, better late than never !
Geronimo's grave is very nice, but I doubt if Geronimo is in peace there. Geronimo would have liked to have been buried in his native land of Arizona. I hope someday his grave will be moved to Arizona or
New Mexico where he spend a lot of his life with the Apaches of Santa Rita New Mexico.
I used to visit relatives in Santa Rita as a child. Little did I know that Geronimo walked those grounds!
Santa Rita was wonderful even though it is considered a dump by some people. I can't even take my kids to Santa Rita as a mining company destroyed Santa Rita. My ancestors graves were moved else where
as was my great Grandfather's old adobe house. I still remember his Fascinating ancient outhouse
with ancient wood! By that time I was a city kid from Los Angeles and couldn't get over the use of an
outhouse! My grandmother told me I ( age 5) would look around the inside of the outhouse like "what the hell?".
It was Geronimo's desire to be returned to Arizona so that he could die and be buried in his beloved Chiricahua Mountains. President Theodore Roosevelt continually denied these requests because of the great fear of Apaches being returned to their native homes. I, too, have hoped that Geronimo's descendants would have pushed for him to be laid to rest in his desired homeland.
@Richard McCraw I think the outhouse was used a lot anyway I never heard of a rattlesnake harming anyone there but you never know. I once went to the Santa Rosa Plateau in Riverside Ca. in Murrieta, CA and my family and I found a rattlesnake den under a large metal
slab! Most were baby rattlesnakes! A den of them! They were afraid of us as well. We left them alone! Google The Santa Rosa Plateau and go to images! It's nice there! There is an old adobe ranch house there! I think it was in the movie The Missing with
Cate Blanchett. The Rattlesnake den was near the old Adobe ranch! They used to leave the doors open only jerks started destroying things. :(
They have removed the fencing since you were there last
I don't think he was actually a Chief!?
Thank you for this great video. I was stationed at Sill from 87-93. Went to Geronimo’s grave site a few times. Brings back memories of days gone bye. Thank you for this excellent video.
My father was stationed at Ft. Sill when I was young. I visited there in 1979 when I was just 15 years old. It still looks exactly the same. I can't believe it has been 40 years.
Great video. Thanks for sharing.❤️👍
NOBODY REMEMBERS THE NAMES OF THE MEN WHO KILLED
Geronimo
I liked this video presentation. Very well put together. Thanks for the info.
... thank you for the nice comment and I am glad you enjoyed my video ... regards ... Ken B.
Geronimo was not a chief, he was a medicine man
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He was a Great Chief to the Apached
Geronimo, the Greatest Warrior
He is my Tunkasila Aho Mitakuye Oyasin.
Been there before lol I left a cigarette too bad someone stole the blasted eagles head again
Do you know about the story that Boosh I stole his skull and carried it to the Skull and Bones HQ at Yale U.?
www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=101626709
The head stone to the right of Geronimos marker is Jason Betzinez who wrote a book called "I fought with Geronimo" Telling first hand accounts. Geronimo isn't actually buried here. The Tribe took him back to New Mexico a long time ago.
Enjoyed your video....looking forward to more. THANK YOU
.. thank you for watching my video and I am glad you enjoyed it ... Ken B.
Oglala Lakota here canli wapocte for all my Tunkasilas we shall remain Aho Heceitu Mitakuye Oyasin.
The U.S Army (Calvary) never had much luck against the Apaches, Apaches always seemed to be one step ahead of them, that is until they got some of them to turn against their own people and become scouts. Naturally after the Apache Wars essentially came to and end these scouts were immediately disarmed and thrown onto reservations and treated as 'adversaries'. What a surprise.
How could anyone forget Lawton, Oklahoma?! LOL!! Never thought I'd see pictures of Fort Sill again, or a 105 howitzer! I'm having flashbacks to 1968 and my 2 months AIT at Sill. All my training was on self-propelled howitzer's, and never saw one in 'Nam. Used 105 towed and 155 towed.
I was stationed at fort Sill in 1963 for six months took a i t then moved up to main Post or 26 weeks on the 175. I remember lake Elmer Thomas Mount Scott and medicine bluff legend has it Geronimo and his horse jumped off it and landed in the river below. I've seen recent pictures of Lawton.... There's nothing there that I recognize or remember unbelievable how things can change over 60 years I wonder how much force heal itself has changed. Good times good memories of Lawton and for sale thanks for posting.... I've always wondered about it.
One of our teachers at FORTSILL INDIAN SCHOOL was born in a prison of war camp,from Geronimos band.(Class of 71)
Awesome Video of a great Leader a man many called A fighter, I am An Chiracahua from the Apache Land of Arizona, Geronimo is a Warrior and Fighter but never was a Chief, He was more of a Leader a Holy Man as many called him, had the interest of his people and protection, He was feared by many even among his own people they were afraid and feared when he walked among them as they would hide from Geronimo. as a Little Child i would remember my Grandmother telling the story of Old San Carlos and Cibecue Creek, The story goes on from Generation to Generation,
Was he a chief? Seems I had been told that he was never a chief...? Although, he was a most famous warrior...
... oh yes, to the best of my knowledge Geronimo was a great Apache Indian Chief ... and a great Warrior too that made him a great Chief .... he was the last of the warrior indians to surrender to the U.S. Army .... he lived for many years afterwards at Ft. Sill, Oklahoma and could pretty much come and go as he pleased .... he and his family accepted Jesus and Christianity a few years before they all died .... thank you for watching my video and I am glad you enjoyed it ... regards .... Ken B.
Geronimo was never the chief of his people...he was a great shamen or see ir of thing or events to come.
Naiche son of Cochise was the last hereditary chief of the Chiracauha..
@@kblakney61 He was not a chief. Naiche, son of Cochise, was the hereditary Chiricahua Apache chief in Geronimo's time of influence...
When all who surrender to the white that gave up Geronimo and the Braves carry on the fight Geronimo military tactics out surpass the military drove them crazy trying to catch him.if he was a chief his name in the native American will live on for decades to come.
this is where I was 'hatched' as they used to truthfully tell me!! lol...
NO WONDER I'm such a 'pain in the arse', there's an ENTIRE CEMETARY OF WARRIORS THERE!!!
:O THANKS FOR POSTING THIS really appreciate it..
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@ 4:44 this is how I learned that my 'mom' lied to me my entire life about my birth
and likely didn't carry me/adopted.... cus, MAKES MORE SENSE!!
THANKS
Geronimo was one of our tribal members and he was a leader. From our tribe’s perspective, he was not a chief. Geronimo was a leader in our tribe, but not a major leader. He was a medicine man. He was not held in the same status or regard as chiefs within our tribe. However he is a person who did get a lot of attention from non-Apaches and so that has developed quite extensively and it’s to that extent that a lot of our people are even now being influenced by non-Apaches’ concepts of what Geronimo is and that our tribe should be based on what they think of Geronimo and how the image of Geronimo exists in their minds.
When they hear about our tribe, the first thing they think of is Geronimo and once that name comes up, they have difficulty focusing on anything else. So, we have to work quite a bit to get that information across to them - that there are other aspects of the tribe other than simply Geronimo
I went to Ft. Sill to follow the life of Quanah Parker, who is buried at chiefs Knoll. I meant to see Geronimo's grave, but because it had rain hard the night before, the only road leading to the cemetery was closed. thanks for the video.
I never knew there was an Anardarko, OK town.. or Frederick....or any of them besides Lawton...
so interesting..
While in Pensacola I visited the cell with the hole in the roof where he crawled ot is escape from Fort Pickens. This was in the 70s now our pay as a tourist. We had great stories told to us from the older ones about this chie. He sold the buttons off his coat.
The cemetary has been cleaned up since my last visit. In which I am Thankful. There once was a tree that had thousands of scarfs tied to it. I did not see it in the video. I have family on my fathers side related to Geronimo, as well. As Cherokee from my mothers relations.
That awesome and the ending comments were great!! I was feeling kinda sad as i always watching these types of videos then you almost choke on my breakfast laughing!! Thank you
Enjoyed the video, but Geronimo was never a Chief. He was a medicine man.
R.I.P. King Geronimo of the 🌎 Americas.
I don’t know why you keep referring him as a chief. If you read your history, he wasn’t a chief.
We had a lot of good evps at that grave and the graves around it saw a lot of strange stuff
Didn’t geronimo die and got buried in Florida he spent the rest of his life there after surrendering 🤔
Interesting that his name is carved in both upper and lower case letters.
Geronimo is not a chief he is a medicine man im in the Geronimo band but my family moved to new mexico
I still cry for him and his. The whole thing was criminal.
Great informative video. Thank you! I’m fascinated by history
Thank you for your wonderful video I really appreciated it.
Telling my stepson to go there while he's in fort sill OKC
You did a great job in making this video...did you ever find out what Geronimo means? IF you do please post it. Thank you.
It means Jerome in English-language
I thought I read somewhere that he is not really buried there. That his family moved him to an unknown location
jnmyles20 that's true of Crazy Horse
You may be thinking of the great Apache Chief Cochise, who is buried in an unknown location at Cochise Pass in his beloved Dragoon Mountains in Cochise County of southeastern Arizona.
Sorry but Ive red that his skull was taken by BONES AND SKULLS AT YALES.😢😢😢😢
They never returned it😰😰😰🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
sorry to correct u but he was no chief he was the greatest chief that never was
Interessante video del grande capo indiano Geronimo (italiano Girolamo) Grazie.
I spent many years in the Army at Ft. Sill and never made it to his grave. I did learn to repel at the base of the famous cliff...... Geronimo's Jump!
I remember going by there going to the field. C-Btry 2/34 Fa 82-83
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Thank you for this wonderful video. Next best thing to being there in person. RIP Chief Geronimo.
... thank you for your nice comment and I am glad you enjoyed my video ... cheers ... Ken B.
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Great video, love your work mate 🌏
Very nice job Ken. Thanks for taking the time and having the initiative to provide the world some history.
Thank you for your nice comment and i am glad you enjoyed my video ... regards ... Ken B.
Very accommodating…!!
Love Apaches and that song in this video
I am Cherokee and proud to be who I am
Not so funny (Geronimo hotel)
Thank you for the great video sir I enjoyed it history is very important and I love history you did a great job
...thank you for the nice comment and I am glad you enjoyed my video ...thanks ... regards ... Ken B.
Thank you Ken, for this post.
American Indian history fascinates me.
... you are very welcome and I am glad you enjoyed my video ... thanks .. Ken B.
They was treated so sad it was a sad time
Thank you enjoyed very much
Great post ken 👏 all the best 👍
I like to meet a real Indian someday
You keep referring to Geronimo as an Apache chief. He was never a tribal chief.
Would he be considered a war chief?
Ruben Alvarado "Villa Nueva" I am also a Kin of Geronimo ,confirmed ,Debra Rusk you are also my cousin
There are more than one video on Geronimo's grave at Fort Sill, Oklahoma, but this one provided the best coverage. A lot of ignorant people think that Geronimo was wronged somehow. NOT true at all. The last chief of the Comanches, Quanah Parker, who had surrendered in 1875 became Americanized quite well and ended up extremely wealthy. Ergo, it was NEVER about what Americans had done to the Apaches. Geronimo had no body to blame for his fate other than himself.
I was stationed at NAS ( Naval Air Station ) Pensacola, Florida during the seventies. Pensacola Beach is a long peninsula that encloses the bay. At the furthest end is Fort Pickens, an old army base built prior to the War of 1812. After Geronimo surrendered, he and others of his warriors were housed as prisoners there prior to his final term on Florida's East coast. During the seventies, Fort Pickens was a state park where people had full access to the barracks of cells in the fort twenty-four seven. And, at night you could wonder about the open cells at your leisure. Geronimo's cell was massive of thick brick walls with a small creek running through the center of his cell. We, my Navy friends and I, "partied" within his cell. But, we did so in honor of Geronimo and we always cleaned after ourselves when leaving. And, of course, this started a life-long appreciation of Geronimo. To this day, I salute Geronimo whenever it is appropriate. Call it what you want, but, as far as I'm concerned, he was a native American worthy as a true opponent of the mass white invasion they suffered and bled for. And, he bore the scars of America's "Manifest Destiny" paid for by their blood.
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C-Btry 2/34 Fa 1982-83 I never seen his grave but seen the place they called Geronimos leap going to the field.
My big Brother was in the U.S. ARMY and trained at Fort Sill. He was shooting them Howitzer big guns as a Heavy Artillery Fire support . He got to visit Geronimo's grave .
Thank you for posting, I enjoyed it very much.
GOOD JOB
I am Jicarilla Apache. I had a dream that I was riding along side of Geranimo and soldiers chased us of a cliff .I woke up before hitting the ground.
A childhood friend showed me a picture of his grandfather along side of Geronimo during a time he helped guard him. I always remember this photograph.
What part of America is that place
Oklahoma, just outside Lawton.