I use an external receiver/amplifier for audio with Boston acoustic bookshelf speakers. I use the equalizer in the receiver. I’ve thought about simplifying the output audio by eliminating the receiver, but I kind of like having two speakers. What are your thoughts? My Radio is the DX 10.
I have a 710 as well. To me, the external speaker seemes a gimmick, but stuffing the enclosure made it sound better. I might have to do that myself.I'm very interested to hear the results if you replace the driver.
My question is this. On your waterfall I can see you have some kind of spikes there. I have them also. What are they, house solar system interference??
I thought the external speaker was only responsible for the highs (which is why it faces forward) and the internal speaker dealt with the lows. So air movement of the external one wouldn't be much of an issue would it? Have you looked at replacing the internal speaker?
Interesting test. Internal speaker sounded distorted as if there is not enough throw in the voice coil. Stuffing+Drilling did sound better but does not address the internal speaker distortion. Might be better to convert the external speaker into a full range transmission line with free-air resonance around 100hz and shutoff aess?
Before I go criticizing this video and the previous one he made on this topic... I must ask what is your radio of choice? What do you use when you decide to sit down and make some HF contacts? Do you have any hearing issues (do you hear better on one side? Long term noise exposure? etc...)? I do, after years of punk\metal playing with no hearing protection and tons of time at the gun club, low tone or bass-y voices muffle because I do not hear mids, and highs so well. I hear plenty of lows, I need to turn up the treble and mids. This radio does exactly that. The AESS system is not focused on low fatigue tone... IT IS focused on phenome clarity. How well you understand words received. For me it does that very well. It is a great radio. So my thought is... What price point of radios do you prefer to use? There are radios doubling in price, that do sound much better. The Kenwood TS 990 and 890. If you use the TS990 then yea your gonna hate the FT710 and many many other popular radios. So what is your favorite hf rig?
Looking to purchase the 710, without the speaker, with the intention of hooking up to a set of 3.1 desktop speakers with treble/bass control. Is there a feature to turn off the radio’s internal speaker?
:) I do think it sounds better, very strange the way they mounted the speaker! Isn't it possible to hot glue the driver to the plastic face (easily remove hot glued items with alcohol) and omit the steel frame completely? The shape does match the rig quite nicely. 73 from the Netherlands
I found using the internal and external speaker combo more hype than anything else. Totally useless. I turned the internal speaker off. I did go into the menu and change the treble, base and mid tone settings and only use an external speaker that I had laying around the shack. I purchased the Field version. Barry, KU3X
what about an external equalizer, with external loudspeaker, so you are the boss of the sound. Depending on the transmission modes you could set the sound you like best.
Confused, maybe I didn’t see or hear correctly- when you say stuffed, does that mean you put sound dampening material inside the enclosure? Also I would have imagined lots more varied spectrum of reflection interference when there is more sound coming from the enclosure itself, which would presumably happen with the extra holes added. I also am highly confused why yaesu would not have moved the low frequencies to the external speaker instead of leaving them in the radio speaker. Shouldn’t this have been the case, similar in nature to moving bass frequencies to a woofer? As an aside, I liked the sound of stuffed external.
He's not talking about Duramat. He is talking about Poly Fill. I believe if Yaesu used the internal speaker as the low end " Bass ". Then without the SP-40 external speaker or FT710 FIELD. The internal speaker would still be all low end bass. I understand what your saying though. Yaesu should of also added another AESS menu to change the treable and bass from internal to external. I really don't care for the internal. Of course the external needs upgraded also. All that said. I'd rather give up the AESS. And have roofing filters in the FT710. I personally like the FTDX10 and FTDX101D better. I did poly fill the external speaker. It helped a little. It's an odd no tabs 4" speaker. And I don't have that style on hand to change out to. Now I still got a SP-10 991/A external speaker. I had a better speaker to upgrade it and poly fill. The SP-10 also has a electrolytic capacitor inside. To act as a super cheap cross over/ or tone just a bit. I put a switch on it. So it can bypass or run through the cap.
Want a good sounding speaker ? Open up the speaker housing. All that empty space in there ? take an old t shirt, or similar cotton material and stuff it into the empty space. Bam, sounds 100 % better
Since you are so good with sound and audio, did you notice that your recording in this video, the left channel mic picked up a lot of distortion when picking up the sound from the radio, but not the right channel? This affects how the audience experienced the recorded audio that you wanted to share with us. From any TH-camrs, I would expect you to have noticed this. (Not necessary to fix it but at least to address it in the post production for us.)
If you're using a low pass filter whether it be 700 or a thousand the remaining audio has no base to it so if nothing below 700 or a thousand goes to the external speaker you can muffle amid or a high but you can't add base cuz it's not there if I'm hearing what you're saying correctly
I have to confess, the speaker for my 710 has never come out of the box. Only bought it for portable, but even the 7610 in the shack only ever gets used with a headset. Still, I’ll be interested in the results, especially given the fact you can buy ready made aftermarket stuff for the expensive iCom external speakers from DX Engineering!
@@nine7295 Yes, true...except no-one knew it was coming at that point, plus, I suspect it will have better value as an AESS version anyway, should I ever sell.
Speaker that comes with ft-710 is cheap and poor quality. The only way u can improve its sound is to cover the inside walls with 3-4 mm rubber material. Not sure if u ever tried it in yr home-made speakers, but this should work the best
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I think drilling the holes improved it!, at least that's what it sounds like on my end.
I use an external receiver/amplifier for audio with Boston acoustic bookshelf speakers. I use the equalizer in the receiver. I’ve thought about simplifying the output audio by eliminating the receiver, but I kind of like having two speakers. What are your thoughts? My Radio is the DX 10.
I have a 710 as well. To me, the external speaker seemes a gimmick, but stuffing the enclosure made it sound better. I might have to do that myself.I'm very interested to hear the results if you replace the driver.
i replaced my factory ext speaker with a small amp and book shelf speakers, so much better with or without the aess on
My question is this. On your waterfall I can see you have some kind of spikes there. I have them also. What are they, house solar system interference??
I thought the external speaker was only responsible for the highs (which is why it faces forward) and the internal speaker dealt with the lows. So air movement of the external one wouldn't be much of an issue would it? Have you looked at replacing the internal speaker?
Interesting test. Internal speaker sounded distorted as if there is not enough throw in the voice coil. Stuffing+Drilling did sound better but does not address the internal speaker distortion. Might be better to convert the external speaker into a full range transmission line with free-air resonance around 100hz and shutoff aess?
Before I go criticizing this video and the previous one he made on this topic... I must ask what is your radio of choice? What do you use when you decide to sit down and make some HF contacts? Do you have any hearing issues (do you hear better on one side? Long term noise exposure? etc...)? I do, after years of punk\metal playing with no hearing protection and tons of time at the gun club, low tone or bass-y voices muffle because I do not hear mids, and highs so well. I hear plenty of lows, I need to turn up the treble and mids. This radio does exactly that. The AESS system is not focused on low fatigue tone... IT IS focused on phenome clarity. How well you understand words received. For me it does that very well. It is a great radio. So my thought is... What price point of radios do you prefer to use? There are radios doubling in price, that do sound much better. The Kenwood TS 990 and 890. If you use the TS990 then yea your gonna hate the FT710 and many many other popular radios. So what is your favorite hf rig?
Looking to purchase the 710, without the speaker, with the intention of hooking up to a set of 3.1 desktop speakers with treble/bass control. Is there a feature to turn off the radio’s internal speaker?
The AESS can be turned all the way down which turns off the internal speaker in the radio.
Awesome thanks for sharing!
:) I do think it sounds better, very strange the way they mounted the speaker!
Isn't it possible to hot glue the driver to the plastic face (easily remove hot glued items with alcohol) and omit the steel frame completely?
The shape does match the rig quite nicely.
73 from the Netherlands
I found using the internal and external speaker combo more hype than anything else. Totally useless. I turned the internal speaker off. I did go into the menu and change the treble, base and mid tone settings and only use an external speaker that I had laying around the shack. I purchased the Field version.
Barry, KU3X
Sounds like yeasu got it backwards. The bass needs to go to the eternal speaker.
what about an external equalizer, with external loudspeaker, so you are the boss of the sound. Depending on the transmission modes you could set the sound you like best.
I'm using Voicemeeter potato for that with my logitech pc speakers 2.1 and that works very well.
Confused, maybe I didn’t see or hear correctly- when you say stuffed, does that mean you put sound dampening material inside the enclosure? Also I would have imagined lots more varied spectrum of reflection interference when there is more sound coming from the enclosure itself, which would presumably happen with the extra holes added.
I also am highly confused why yaesu would not have moved the low frequencies to the external speaker instead of leaving them in the radio speaker. Shouldn’t this have been the case, similar in nature to moving bass frequencies to a woofer?
As an aside, I liked the sound of stuffed external.
He's not talking about Duramat. He is talking about Poly Fill. I believe if Yaesu used the internal speaker as the low end " Bass ". Then without the SP-40 external speaker or FT710 FIELD. The internal speaker would still be all low end bass. I understand what your saying though. Yaesu should of also added another AESS menu to change the treable and bass from internal to external. I really don't care for the internal. Of course the external needs upgraded also. All that said. I'd rather give up the AESS. And have roofing filters in the FT710. I personally like the FTDX10 and FTDX101D better. I did poly fill the external speaker. It helped a little. It's an odd no tabs 4" speaker. And I don't have that style on hand to change out to. Now I still got a SP-10 991/A external speaker. I had a better speaker to upgrade it and poly fill. The SP-10 also has a electrolytic capacitor inside. To act as a super cheap cross over/ or tone just a bit. I put a switch on it. So it can bypass or run through the cap.
Want a good sounding speaker ? Open up the speaker housing. All that empty space in there ? take an old t shirt, or similar cotton material and stuff it into the empty space. Bam, sounds 100 % better
Since you are so good with sound and audio, did you notice that your recording in this video, the left channel mic picked up a lot of distortion when picking up the sound from the radio, but not the right channel? This affects how the audience experienced the recorded audio that you wanted to share with us. From any TH-camrs, I would expect you to have noticed this. (Not necessary to fix it but at least to address it in the post production for us.)
If you're using a low pass filter whether it be 700 or a thousand the remaining audio has no base to it so if nothing below 700 or a thousand goes to the external speaker you can muffle amid or a high but you can't add base cuz it's not there if I'm hearing what you're saying correctly
I have to confess, the speaker for my 710 has never come out of the box. Only bought it for portable, but even the 7610 in the shack only ever gets used with a headset. Still, I’ll be interested in the results, especially given the fact you can buy ready made aftermarket stuff for the expensive iCom external speakers from DX Engineering!
Ah you could have waited for the 710 Field without the external speaker and saved $100.
@@nine7295 Yes, true...except no-one knew it was coming at that point, plus, I suspect it will have better value as an AESS version anyway, should I ever sell.
могли бы внутрь блок питания установить, места вполне достаточно
Speaker that comes with ft-710 is cheap and poor quality. The only way u can improve its sound is to cover the inside walls with 3-4 mm rubber material. Not sure if u ever tried it in yr home-made speakers, but this should work the best