Rain harvesting ... It's about time I did this!
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I am installing a rain harvesting system on my barn and a small system to top off the pool. The goal is to develop a standalone potable water system that uses many levels of particle filtration, multiple storage tanks, and pumping using a solar booster pump, charcoal filter for taste and UV for treatment.
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Brilliant.... My husband is a gutter guy for 38 years... I have been trying to get him to do this for me for 25 years... maybe now he will do it. LOL... Thanks for sharing this!
I didn't mean that you were injecting fear but that we shouldn't be fearful. That's all. Keep looking up no matter what happens for our redemption draws close. It might be a rough ride but our destination has been prepped for us and I can't wait to see it! God Bless!
I do this over Thailand, i collect so much rain water especially during thypoon season, In fact, i connect a water pump that pushes the water over a 12 feet high with a 12 volts solar to a 500gallon water reservoir & filter as it goes up & filters again when going down on a combination of reverse osmosis, for drinking water, I am off the grid, all of my entire life with all the research i am reading as you mention on your beautiful project,. I wish i can share with you but just giving you an idea, thanks for sharing,..
you need to add minerals to your reverse osmosis because it strips out all the minerals. RS also does not remove parthogenic bacteria , RS is over rated
sorry, Reverse Osmosis, should have been RO
Cesar, just curious. How do you do your own treatment for it to be safe enough to drink? And how did you even start of that way?
Hi Thanks for the video. We lived for 15 years on tank water when we lived on our lifestyle block. You soon learn how to save water in Summer time. When we moved back to town I installed a 5500 litre plastic tank which fills from the garage guttering. Excellent for watering the gardens as we know have to pay any water we use though a metered mains supply.
I have always found you can never have a big enough water tank and would suggest at least a 25,000 litre tank to catch the water from your barn.
With good fill from winter rain and a top up with any summer rain you will have a secure supply of water.
I must say that it really sucks that there are only a few select innovative people like you in this world our brothers and sisters in this society have become so use to being lazy and reliant on our necessities like food and water already grown and packaged ready to be picked up from the grocery store and honestly it's pretty depressing. Keep doing what you are doing because we need more people like you in this world taking care of themselves instead of going about it the easy way
You are spot on with that analysis Rob. A topic not many think about.
Awsome. My dad made a similar, but really complicated system where all roof rainwater was collected. He always made sure the roof was very large!. First part of the tubing passed his greenhouse in one or two great circle(s). The tubing had small holes in it and would be dripping small, but constant quantities of water to his tomatoes and grapes and whatnots. After that, the surplus water would first hit a 40 gallon barrel (where he later added 2 more barrels due to the capacity possibilities. It rains a LOT in Denmark.) for general consumption on his watercloset and the rest went via - again using small holed tubing all over his vegetables. This was in his small allotment where he had a little house (for the coffee and the nap) and the rest was for vegetables. This was a colony and his lot was sold later on for about 6 times the price of his neighbouring lots as his land was considered of a superior quality. He did this trick - I think - 3 or 4 times in the colony; bying cheap, installing the water tubing, observing the result (and of course letting the neighbours observe as well), selling for an indecent price, removing the tubing and moving on to the next lot.
But the thing is: This was in Denmark. Isn´t there a - somewhat ridicolous - law in the US against collecting rain water?
I was kind of worry about the freezing part but since you mentioned to bury it, the tanks can go in the basement and if the basement is heated the tanks should not freeze.
Really enjoy your videos. I'm a prepper up in NC. I get lots of ideas watching your ideas.
Thanks.
Great job. It looks like a really good design.
Awesome channel you have here. I think cisterns are a much overlooked tool around the homestead.They used to be more more common than they are now.When you consider the expense and red tape of a well this could be a very viable alternative.I get about 48 inches of annual precipitation where i live and thats a heck of a lot of water if you save it with a system like this.
The connector is a standard 3x4 gutter to PVC connector. look up North american rain harvesting in Lyman SC and on their products pages you will find a picture of the skimmer and it should make sense then. Thanks
Every video lifts the bar . Absolutey great.
Depending on where you live and the size of your tank most people would not have to worry about freeze. The water's thermal mass and not being directly exposed to the outside environment will help stop freezing.
man you have a lot of great set ups. i really need to do a lot of what you do on your videos thank you so much for doing them
Great stuff. Never thought of using it to fill up the pool, time to bust out the graph paper. Our last house had 2 underground 8000 gallon ferrocement tanks built by the last owners. Told me it was twice as much to dig a well where there's 50 inches of rain a year. At the new place we're using those 250 gallon totes. Found a deal on 12 of them. Got 2 stacked up for the roof on the house now.
Looks like a good system
I live in Australia and use a 10000 gallon tank we use a simple basket type strainer at the tank.thats our total household water and have a bore for the garden. No one chlorinates their rain water here. Many use much bigger tank systems but I am in a good rainfall area.
+Alan Sullivan I was debating on chlorinating mine. But I think ill just run multi stage filters. I was thinking of two spin filters, a 20 micron string filter, 5 micron cloth filter, then parallel two 1 micron ceramic filters, and a UV tank for the main house. Then have carbon and .5 micron filters for the drinking water.
For the collection I was thinking of just strainers and a basic first flush for large materials.
The hard part is combining my rain water with city water in a hands free setup. Ill run an on demand pump at just over my regulators pressure to force rain water to have priority, then have a check valve per source and a 45-55gallon well tank to regulate pressure. Ill have a air relief valve after the on demand pump just in case it pumps dry the house will not see the air. My main goal is to use 2x 275 gallon ISO containers for pre pump storage since my 1700sq ft of roof will deliver a maximum of around 400-500 gallons in a heavy rain day. Then with usage it will balance out giving me a decent usage buffer.
+Atom RC Wow that's a lot of filtering most here don't filter rain water at all.but I guess if u r living in a polluted area? New homes in Australia need to comply with an energy rating standard so things like double glazed Windows solar panels water tank all add to the rating.in my state of Victoria it's often a water tank that's added. If the home is in a city there is a requirement for a min size (I think 2500 litres) that tank is plumbed into the toilet and laundry. Is fitted with a pressure pump also a water switch.(look up on Onga water switch.) the water switch auto changes from rain storage to town supply when the tanks r low. Have a look at www.waterstore.com.au shows the type of things aussies use
+Atom RC I went ahead and chlorinated mine with 3" pool tabs on a stainless chain. I have a 1550 gallon out in hill country of Texas. I water my trees and cows with it. no issues.
+David Davis. Gday David just wondering.. Why clorinate if u r using it for garden and cattle?
Went with chlorinated because I live in central texas and use it solely for cows and trees and stuff like that. the tank sets up for awhile in the hot texas sun, plus we don't get that much rainfall in central texas. So I can get algae
This is fairly common in New Zealand. My fathers place has no mains water supply. Water is captured and stored in two 10,000 liter tanks with similar systems to those in this video for filtration and treatment.
Reminds me of the day mine was installed 6 days ago, along with the gutters. The "heroic" guy installing it was soaking wet, I went through my entire collection of hoodies. By the time he was done the first two barrels he installed were completely full. lol I'm ready to add two more today after my daughter takes me to lunch.
I think this is a great system. It fills the pool and provides a measure of clean water for whatever purpose you want. It occurred to me that you could elevate the main collection reserve 18-24 inches. This would give you a little more potential to drain the water a little greater distance.
For the tank at 10:00, you could remove the lever, make it direct to the tank. When it overflows, direct it to the pool, cause really the pool gets filled up by rainwater from the sky too.
nice job. did same with my 40x 48' barn. Upgraded to a 1550 gallon tank, thinking about getting another now to interlink. Mine filled up in one days worth of rain! Lotta water coming off roof even though it don't look like it
That is too cool. You're like a super-engineer-hero.
I love your videos they are excellent. I really appreciate your way of life. Too many Americans these days do nothing but sit on their buts and watch television and play video games. If everyone made use of their time similar to the way you do we would have a much more productive society. Keep up the awesome videos!
Fantastic. the skimmer idea and the aerator . Thanks Again.
You take it very seriously with your projekts. Very nice, keep up the good work :)
Filling your pool with it was a great idea !
Your set up is "art". Watching that rain water divert into the skimmer is innately satisfying and productive (just like recycling). I'll be using your video among others to help me get mine set up. Frankly, I wish every developer and homeowner would implement this of his/her own free will. With help of county education and incentives, and without having a law to force it. Though, I think it would not be bad if it came to a mandate to sustain our nations ground water supply. We humans have been utterly careless in taking water for granted.
You are correct.
Beautiful job. Way cool. Saving this vid. Thanks for posting it.
This is on my summer projects list.
Been following your work for a while. It's gorgeous, and a great resource to the world. Thank you. Question: could you go over some of the parts and your source for some of these specifics? The first flush system is gorgeous, but there's a few tricky parts in there I'm curious about - your float, etc. The stock 4" PVC is straightforward enough... Same question with your tank, skimmer, etc. Thanks for your work, and for sharing it.
The ball keeps any contaminants from being flushed back into the system. Debris would float back to the top of the water column since the flow out of the flush system is very slow.
That perforated leaf guard is an awesome idea.
I love that you are a prepper and a Christian!
this is a great set up. never thought about the catch overflow. I guess you can buy more above ground pools and use them as a storage unit. great video. thanks.
I just had Leaf Gaurd gutters installed. Also got a 525 gallon tank hooked to it.
My question is about the skimmer... Is that skimmer attached to the rain barrel system? I would love to see a video of it in more detail when the water level is down.
Nice job on your catchment system, very clean. You seem to get a lot of rain, I put a system in a year ago... I love it! it's amazing how much rain goes "down the drain" I have watered my entire vegetable garden this year with only rain water and it's all automatic with a pump, solar panel, timer and drip system. Very nice video, thanks, for sharing.
Appreciate it. It is working great on the pool.
Very well done, at our property I was thinking of something like this (well not this elaborate) but I need to re do my plans, I like your system better! :)
Wow that is amazing, Great job engineer775, wish you a pleasant life in this beautiful paradise
I like the way you think,great system.
Great design and looks really durable.
The lowes near me has plenty of the 6" gutters. I used them for a buddy's Garage that had a high pitch.. They work great.
It's rain and pvc. You can collect it in a bucket, on a tarp in a poncho. For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
Great concept. I would recommend a good filtration system for drinking water, something, as reverse osmosis. I doubt a metal roof causes major issues for bath, shower, dishwasher.. and if so, a softener may help. excellent for greenhouse and plant irrigation!
Rainwater IS software's already
U might also rig up a cheap UV light to shine on the surface inside the tank, and u might add an impeller at the bottom, to provide for some re-circulation. U could have them solar-powered..?
Good thing you are in Minnesota. I Colorado this would be illegal.
Not sure where you are, but here in snow country leaf guards are a pain in the ass. In the winter, the snow piles up on top of and over the gutter and freezes. Then, when it melts it drips over the edge of the gutter. I stopped using the leaf guard because I had to take them out early every winter, and put them back up every spring.
WOW that is one well thought out system!! The only reason I can see for the 2 dislikes in they are jealous
my single portable AC pull out of the air between 3 and 12 gallons of water per day, dependaing on humidity that can easily be filtered and stored, you could use more to get more...
That's my brothers company. Awesome video!
I live in WV in the affected area where the Tap water was contaminated from a chemical spill. This is an ideal solution for an alternative source for water. Thanks.
Very nice system, lots of good knowledge.
Nice system!
Excellent project!
Thank You!
Thank you for all that you do... Great system.
Joshua at North American Rain Harvesting in Lyman SC.
said the skimmer would be the same as the
Overflow Siphon by Graf. Product code: Toss
Way up north where I live, large underground tanks would be the way to keep your stored water from freezing. I doubt that a 12v tank heater, powered by a small solar panel will cut it. We use 110v AC stock tank heaters (1500w if I remember correctly) and still have frozen over tanks sometimes (not frozen solid). Yes bigger tanks mean greater thermal mass...so size DOES matter. :)
This being safe is commensurate on the quality of air/rain in your region.
I live due east of the great lakes. Lots of industrial air pollution from
large power plant west of me.
as do i. however, i use my rain water collection to water my lawn and garden (and sometimes my dog) hahah
Genius system--well thought out and implemented. I am envious. The video quality needs a little work. Very hard to watch with so much camera movement. Simple fixes: 1) Have someone else hold the camera or mount it on a small tripod. 2) Split the video into scenes. Stop after each scene, then restart. That would eliminate a lot of panning back and forth. 3) Hold the camera still. Lot's to learn from your excellent work if you can present it more effectively.
That looks like a sweet set up!!!
You are fine. The two states I know of are Colorado and Utah.
Excellent video! I think it would work fine Ohio spring, summer, and fall, but I'd probably have to drain and bypass in winter months. I've had 55 gallon barrels of water freeze solid.
That makes sense. That is awesome.
nicely put together.
Very informative. Lots of options to play with are offered. :)
Get a bigger tank. I ended up with 12000 gallons of storage. For New Mexico, I recommend at least 6 inches of storage... or about 4 gallons per every square foot of roof... or about 5000 gallons for that size roof . 17 years offgrid.. wind and solar does it all. Chris.
I have seen some vids showing an alarming amount of fallout in the rain from the Melt Throughs at Fukashima Daiichi Nuclear power plant.Great stuff other wise.Thanks.
Thanks!
Scott, I have a retreat in Celina TN and have no water. We tried digging a well but it came up empty. City water is $25,000 away and so we have to haul water from the city source and dump it into a 1500 gallon holding tank. A rain water catchment system would really help me with this limitation to my retreat. I'll do some research to see if I can find suppliers to help me build a system such as yours, thanks for the video, I think it will put me on the right track.
all houses here in oz have to have guttering, but in the cities they were strange on rainwater collection and used to make them put it into the drains. then after the huge drought in 2009 ( it rained about 10 seconds all year ), they went nuts on rainwater collection and its now law all houses must be built with a rainwater tank or they won't pass the approvals.
Very impressive.
sweet setup !.. I had something similar years ago at my old home.. I had 4 containers all hard piped with pvc.. unfortunately I learned the hard way that the expansion and contraction of all that pvc continued to cause leaks .. I went back and installed some flexible joints in some problem areas and that solved it..than after about 4 years the pvc became so brittle from being exposed to the elements that it either split or shattered with the slightest bump.
next time... no pvc for me.
They have that law up here in the Seattle, WA area too. However I heard that the legislature was looking at changing that law. They are building new off the grid self sufficient commercial businesses that use captured rain water. Its a great idea being that Puget Sound Energy cant seem to keep the power on during the icy parts of the year.
that's crazy! I'm in georgia and have been thinking about a rain barrel system, better check the laws.
Very cool!
great video...thank you very much for the info that you provide.
am so doing this in my next r&r
That is an awesome website.thanks!
Well done! I would like to see a more detailed description of the internals of your rain barrel. The floating outlet is pretty self explanatory, but I don't really understand the skimmer. I'm not sure if it's deceptively simple or just difficult to see the detail in the water. I like the splash setup for aeration...good idea. I'd also be very interested in a homebuilt filtration system in order to make the water potable. Thanks for the informative videos!
Excellent system !
Questions:
What size PVC?
Why the diverters on each side?
Did you make the ball-check diverter or did you buy it?
Can you take the "skimmer" out so we can get a better look at it and see how it works?
I just got gutters for my metal roof and water catchment is next for me...
nicely done!
Very neat! Thanks for sharing!
fyi, no matter what kind of gutter guard out there make sure you check those gutters once a year still cause debris will still get in there.
For those in areas where freezing does occur is the only option a cistern in the ground? Basically I'd like to take something like you have here and use it to water livestock.
you mentioned a skimmer in your tank. where did you find it and how is it installed
Wonderful system! Thanks for demonstrating.
In the UK we import Florida orange juice concentrate in 1500 litre (330 gal) tanks.
They're 6ft high x 4ft dia. with a screw lid. They make perfect rainwater tanks. I don't know if they're used for domestic transportation in the US though.
I'm in the UK too. Could you tell me where I could buy those tanks? Thanks.
Pwecko Search on eBay for:
"1500L Water Storage Tanks Orange Juice"
They are fitted with a robust screw on lid, and the lid also has an access cap within it, if you wanted to draw the water by pump.
If you want to use a regular tap (gravity fed) then you will need to install a 22mm tank connector near the bottom (maybe 6" - 8" above the bottom to allow the sediment to settle below the level at which you will be drawing off). Attach a 22mm gate valve and form an "L" shape piece of 22mm copper pipe to make your spout and as they say in the States "you're good to go".
To allow enough height for a bucket under the spout you may need to build a small plinth, and remember that when full it will weigh up to 1.5 tons, so make sure it's on solid ground. I used some six building blocks capped with four large paving slabs all bedded on mortar (probably overkill, as once full it will not budge, and it's surprising how quickly it fills).
Twig Thanks for the reply. I appreciate it very much.
You can get what's called Mosquito Fish that gobble them up. They are recommended for freshwater ponds.
It will collect the melt. With the time of year that E775 can expect frozen precipitation his barrels will more than likely already be full and most of th melt will be run off.
Looks like its been almost 3 years now. How is the rain catcher doing? Any feedback or lesson learned? Thanks
Have you thought about adding a ball in pipe /first flush diverter to pool fill pipe to prevent overfilling the pool ?
Black is used because it blocks the most broad part of the light spectrum. White would allow too much visible light in. Where he put it has a lot of shade and with the size of the tank the temperature might rise 1 degree during a sunny day. Light is your enemy in this application.
nice job
this is awesome. Thanks for the video. really interesting
I am a Mechanical Engineer. I have a Masters Degree in ME specializing in Mechanism design and Robotics. I went to Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute.
Not true that's it's illegal to harvest rainwater in Oregon. To do so, it has to come directly off a non permeable surface, such as a roof or a concrete parking lot...and diverted to a tank (or in prescribed cases a pond), before it hits the soil. Once it does, it's considered Ground Water.