Eichmann: Mass Murderer or Train Conductor? - WW2 Biography Special
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- Adolf Eichmann was one of the masterminds behind the 'Final Solution of the Jewish Question'. Or was he? In his trial, he argued to be merely a bureaucrat who was following orders. This episode attempts to shine a light on the real role of this controversial figure.
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Some might have noticed that the way we approached our Biography specials changed a bit over the last couple of months. We figured that covering all people of interest is impossible within the limited amount of specials slots we have for the duration of the war. So we're grouping individuals together in so-called 'gallery episodes', which we did for the camp commandants for example. Biography episodes, like this one and the one we did on Phibun, don't just cover one individual, but a broader theme as well (Logistics of Holocaust, Thailand during WW2).
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Does that mean this channel will still upload videos after the war ends?
Might also do animals of WW2 gallery episodes once we see Wojtek?
India in World War 2 can you make a video
@@QuizmasterLaw hi
@@taufiqutomo disregarding Wojtek for now...
As to your question; most certainly not - we're already making post-war plans... our own sort of ongoing Potsdam Conference if you like. WW2 is a cornucopia of topics to cover, but let's get through the war years in chronology first.
Spartacus mentions Franz Novak. Novak was arrested after Eichmann was captured and, after many trials, he was sentenced to nine years and served five. Simon Wiesenthal calculated that he served 3 minutes and 20 seconds of time for every person he transported to their deaths. It's disturbing how many of these monsters got a slap on the wrist or nothing for their crimes. Thank you again, Spartacus and all involved
Germany had to move on. And many of the individuals in the Party were the only ones that could work with the US and the Allies vs. the communists. Theodor Heuss, First President of the Federal Republic of Germany had voted in favour of the Enabling Act (Ermächtigungsgesetz), so it was more a policy of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". The same happened with collaborationists in France. The bigger fish went to trial, but the local pencil-pusher got a slap in the wrist.
@@mikiroony It also happened to an even larger extend in Japan. Not so much in the GDR though. Although there they used the opportunity to cleanse non-Nazi political enemies as well.
@@kaltaron1284 And it also happened in Italy as well. Lots of former fascist party members went on to found political parties which are still powerful in the country to this day (looking at you, MSI/AN/FdI).
@@TLTeo It probably helped that Italy didn't lose the war as they switched sides in time.
I'm sure there was some clean-up/revenge against Mussolini's clique.
@@kaltaron1284 There was, between 1945 and 1946 thousands of people were murdered with no due process, after being accused of either being collaborators or members of the Repubblica di Salo' government. A general amnesty was proclaimed in June 1946, which is considered to be the end of the Italian Civil War; some violence continued, but it died down eventually.
People who survived that were not trialed after the war, even those who in the Repubblica di Salo' participated actively in the Holocaust. And as I said, some of these people went on to start very influential parties.
Oh and the whole switching sides thing is wrong. The South tried joining the Allies, but they were never really accepted as part of the coalition. Mostly their goal was to support Italian soldiers and partisans in the Balkans and in Greece. The North stayed with the Axis for the whole war, and in fact after the split is when Italians started collaborating closely with Nazis in committing atrocities like the Holocaust.
Could we get a special episode on Albert Speer? I’ve always wanted to know more about his role in Holocaust
Have you read his memoirs? I enjoyed them, even if he embellished a fair bit of it. I'm sure these guys will cover it at some point.
As far as I'm aware Speer was not involved in the extermination of the Jews. He "just" worked them to death.
He got off easy, he was an evil man.
A total technocrat, indifferent to the suffering the Third Reich caused to millions of people.
Speer hoodie speer hoodie
One sincere comment: it's refreshing to hear a TH-cam contributor make the effort to pronounce the German names and institutional titles properly. All too often, one hears people stumbling over German, Russian, etc., when just a little effort would show the speaker the proper and respectful way to say what they have to say. It's a joy to listen not only to the facts presented, but to the way these facts are presented. Kudos!
Spartacus lives in Germany, though, so it's no wonder he can do that. He's somewhat inconsistent, in turn, with the Polish names (not that other TH-camrs would get those correct, either). :D
A question for Spartacus or the World War Two group in general. To help counter the depression that the War Against Humanity series may bring you and those watching, have you considered making a series where individuals or groups fought back and/or resisted the atrocities committed during WW2 when the main series or WAH finishes? You could cover people like Oskar Schindler and call the series "When Humanity Fought Back" or something, it's just an idea I had.
In many ways, because of what WaH encompasses, those will likely be in WaH themselves, since it also discusses those who fought back.
that a good idea, i often skip the wah episodes because it is so depressing. Incuding more 'positive' stories would make it more watchable.
@@shrillbert I mean, Mossad sneaking a drugged up Eichmann onto the airplane Weekend at Bernie's-style to his trial is a pretty lighthearted part of this story. They should do something about that.
As stated above. We already cover resistance inside the WaH episodes - it's just that in early 1942, there isn't much to cover. We do make difference between partisan warfare, espionage, and resistance 'proper' The first belongs to the Weekly warfare episodes with Indy, the second will be covered in Astrid's Spies and Ties, and the latter by Spartacus in Specials and War Against Humanity.
@@WorldWarTwo I'm also thinking about not only "resistance" as such but more like acts of "war FOR humanity", such as diplomats using their powers to save Jews from the holocaust (this happened with a Spanish ambassador in Hungary whom became known as the Angel of Budapest, he was able to save thousands of Jews by giving them Spanish passports and other measures, even despite pressures from both the nazi authorities and his own government).
Of course the Mossad acted illegally, but otherwise Eichmann would have never been judged. Sometimes this is necessarly.
honestly most intelligence agencies do illegal stuff
DGSE, SIS, SVR, CIA and of course Mossad
@@Kriegter All do. That's kinda of their job.
@@Kriegter duh. If you aren't stealing information illegally you're a journalist, not an Intel agent. Nobody needs to break the law to get what is open to all
A quick note on that manifest from 1942: it says there- "With the reduction of the transport of potatoes". There was a food crisis after the invasion of USSR; and because of having to supply the army there were food shortages in Germany. So what that document actually is saying is that they're going to reduce the shipments of food, so that they can use the trains instead to send people to be exterminated.
Noticed that as well. The Nazis weren't very rational in the spending of their limited resources. Maybe we should be thankful for that. OTOH they used what they had for horrific stuff.
@@kaltaron1284 I wouldn't say we should be thankful, because of what they did with their resources. It was very 'rational', they knew exactly what they were doing and Mr Eichmann was clearly quite proud of himself and his role.
@@superadventure6297 Of course not really but hadn't they done so many racially motivated wastes and blunders they might actually have won and that's not a pleasant thought.
It was rational if your goal is to fulfill your racist bullshit dreams but not if you want to win a war, that's what I meant.
@@kaltaron1284 If I remember correctly, a lot of what Wannasee was about was literally 'eliminating undesirable population' to free up food for 'desirable' populations in an attempt not to repeat the mass starvation of WWI in the next war. So yeah, there's a heavy element of 'rationality' behind the horror of that little line "with reduction of transport of potatoes".
@@nathanweitzman9531 It was also blatantly about "cleaning up the racial blood" and stuff like that. But yes, there were some real and rational reasoning behind some of the decisions.
One thing that isn't mentioned is that German logistics was awful and they needed every available train for the military or heavy industry. They needed much more than they actually had. To use trains for this shows how committed they were to genocide. It actually hurt the war effort.
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I don't know who edits these and the War Against Humanity episodes, but I respect you as much as Sparty, keep up the great work! Thank you all.
Eichmann's trial resulted in more than just justice.
My grandfather, who's still alive, is a victim of the Holocaust in Chernowitz.
When I asked him how Jews who weren't in the Holocaust perceived Jews who were,
He said that the Holocaust stories weren't really believed, until Eichmann's trial.
And after the trial, how European Jews were seen changed.
The Jews who lived in British Palestine before the Holocaust and the North African Jews now opened their eyes to the horror that happened in Europe.
@neptune3569. Thank you so much for sharing this.
My uncle came from Demblin, Poland. The pain and trauma he saw, endured, and experienced are beyond horrifying.
He did not speak about his experiences for decades.
I was not-yet born during Eichmann trial, but he did say that this trial changed how survivors were viewed and treated.
He died a few years ago, well I to his nineties.
If you search his name, you can find his interview, done at the Yiddish Book Center in Massachusetts.
His name, of blessed memory, is Bernie Frydenberg.
A finer man I have never known.
This history can not be forgotten.
Never forget!
@Travis Johnson What, that facillitating murder is bad?
@Travis Johnson if you have a charge to make then make it. Don’t be so cowardly as to mask what your trying to say.
@@shawnr771 the facilitating murder of a specific group is bad
@@cv4809 The facilitating murder of anyone is bad.
Worse when an entire group of people is scapegoated, dehumanized and then eliminated.
there is actually a paratroopers jump tower in Israel called " Eichmann" because of its long drop !!
Im not even mad
Fair enough.
Snap.
@MRGRUMPY53 At the end of the day, he's dead. He's paid for his sins.
@@jimmyseaver3647 I'm not so sure. I don't think anything could be done to people like Eichmann to truly make them pay for these crimes. They are just too many and too horrific.
I think it's safe to say that Arendt was right to propose her idea of the banality of evil, but wrong to be so credulous to believe Eichmann's legal defense that she applied the concept to him.
He was one of those that managed to escape to Argentina after the war, but eventually Israeli Mossad agents managed to track and capture him and bring him back to Israel for trial, where he was ultimately executed by hanging. This series of events is well portrayed in the Netflix film, Operation Finale.
But why didint Argentina arrest these criminals and hand them over?
That's an excellent film. Ben Kingsley did a fantastic job.
The film operation Finale is extremely interesting and surprisingly accurate. I did a whole video in my channel on it, in Hebrew.
@@stc3145 the Argentinian regime at the time was sympathetic to the nazi cause and protected their nazi refugees. There’s a reason it was such an attractive location for nazi refugees.
@@mangonel
The president of Argentina in 1960 was the progressive Arturo Frondizzi, who had been democratically elected 2 years earlier and he was not a nazi sympathizer or far right in any way, shape or form, in fact he was planning a trip to Israel when the kidnapping happened
He was unaware that Eichmann was living in Argentina
Watching the Kenneth Branagh drama of the Wannsee Conference, I got the distinct impression that what was being portrayed was not a conference. There was no conferring, no real discussion and no mutually agreed decision.
The "Conference," certainly as depicted here, was actually a relaying of orders, to enact a policy that had already been agreed elsewhere.
Where and by whom should be obvious.
If you look closely at the background, any time the narrator is speaking, the clock is showing 12. It is an allegory of the doomsday clock, where 12 is the worst hour possible. Nice touch!
I remember being a boy, in early 1960s, going around, where this guy Eichmann used to live, town of El Talar, a neighborhood at the north outskirts of Greater Buenos Aires.
Those days we didn't realize this infamous guy lived there neither what the Israeli crew pick him up from his home.
Even after a couple of years of watching these, and being interested in the subject since I was young, what I find most astounding is not just the scale of the Holocaust, but the efficiency with which the Nazis conducted it. When you think about the number of people that had to be involved to make those plans work on the scale that it did, and if those people were not involved in the Holocaust, but were instead committed to the German war effort in general - how much of an effect would that have had on the outcome of the war?
Even to this day, I just can't wrap my head around the concept of putting so much time and logistics into the extermination of an entire peoples. But we have to remember. Otherwise we run the risk of someone trying it again.
I've always said that Ardnet's book was more of a love letter than a profile of Eichmann. She lost her objectivity and even apologized for him. Thus, her book is a HOAX. As you said, Eichmann knew EXACTLY what he was doing and was PROUD of it, hardly the "cog in the big machine".
I would not have cared if he really was 'just a bureaucrat'. Ask three questions: "did you control the trains?" "Did you know where the trains were going?". "Did you know what would happen when they got there?"
Everyone at Wannsee knew what was going to happen. He wrote up the minutes of the conference. So Eichmann would have to answer yes to all your questions.
@@vladimpaler3498 Exactly.
Bureaucracy is fascinating in that it's practically designed to hide insanity beneath a thin crust of shallow logic. Technically, he did not pull the trigger; and so he would argue that all day as his excuse. We all know that he killed them, that he's responsible, but he'd become stuck on this one point as a way of separating himself from the deed... What a sad, vile man.
Thanks for clarifying his role as more than as a mere banal bureaucrat. I still like the phrase "the banality of evil," though. It emphasizes the way bureaucracies can do horrible things yet keep emotional distance from the reality
It is an exceptionally descriptive phrase and he was the embodiment of this
jussst the way our US politicians age going/and doing
I think dispelling the myth of Eichmann as just a boring, unimaginative bureaucrat is one of the most valuable things to do. He was a calculating, ambitious monster whose own prejudices coincided with the monstrosity of the regime he served perfectly. I'm sure there were plenty of unimaginative bureaucrats in Nazi Germany, but to say Eichmann was one of them reduces his guilt far too much.
Among those who testified at Eichmanns trial was Abba Kovner, who either you or Indy mentioned when discussed the start of the FPO. His testimony is absolutely terrifying.
The holocaust broke him. Making him wants only revenge. Nothing else
Seems reasonable.
Keep up the great stuff
Thanks Oliver
No worries. So tragic to hear about these things yet it's also very interesting. I really appreciate this kind of content that digs deep into wartime atrocities and how we should avoid it in future
His final act in the war against humanity was to curse the people who he despised. It's chilling. Those words remind me of every time I hear about a war, a totalitarian nation, hatred, or the grim shuffle of nuclear warheads aboard submarines, bombers and transports between silos. I can only hope that one day his curse will ring hollow in a world free of war. No Eichmann, we're not going to follow you.
Amen
Eichmann is such a disturbing figure especially after reading Ardent’s work even if you don’t agree with all of it.
Arendt spells her name that way. my friend FELIX however says she is Not credible!
@@QuizmasterLaw Why should we believe your friend Felix?
Thank you so much for the interpretation after 10:00. I've recently watched several hours of the famous trials and I almost got to the same conclusion as Hannah Arendt, but I vaguely remembered from my history courses, that her views were later disputed. Thanks for clearing up my mind for what a criminal Eichmann was. In the trials I saw on TH-cam he put up a really good defense, which would almost make him seem innocent (or just another link the chain). Seems like Ian Kershaws "working towards the Furher" would be more appropriate to explain him.
Would love to see a miniseries, like the Cuban Missile Crisis or Sue Canal, where you look at the time table and all the steps taken by the Mossad to track, find and take Eichman from Argentina. I’ve seen the movie ‘Operation: Finale’ but i love your attention to detail and present the info as it happened.
he was proud his trains were still running while there were none left for Wehrmacht in the final months of the war..
He was unwilling participant of Unternehmen Saublöder Arsch.
@@vksasdgaming9472 what was that
@@multiversalman4270 Secret plan by Hitler to start a war, lose it about as badly as any country ever has lost a war and cause as much suffering and devastation as possible while at it. Very convoluted plan to annihilate Germans as political and national entity.
@@vksasdgaming9472 can you send a link?
@@vksasdgaming9472 ohh I see what it means
Spartacus I enjoy this break down of the crimes from all sides I can imagine how tough this is to cover but enjoy your coverage and your wife's ties and spies and even ww2 in real time
Thank you
where do you situate Shirer's assertion that Eichmann said "he would leap laughing into his grave because the feeling that he had five million people on his conscience would be for him a source of extraordinary satisfaction.’”" ?
Speculative in as much as that he went very unwillingly to the gallows, correct in as much as that he cursed booth his victims and his jurors with his last words.
Eichmann is what happens when small minds are given a lot of power. By himself, he would have been merely pathetic. When handed the machinery of the state that had not only eliminated protections against evils but instead actively desired them to be committed, he was able to be a monster.
These were truly unpleasant people doing truly unpleasant things in a truly unpleasant time.
My mother escaped from Warsaw in late 1939. I have a scrapbook of hers showing burning buildings, people cheering around the burned corpse of a Luftwaffe pilot from a nearby crashed and burned plane, and Nazis pushing a clothing rack through town with a number of the more prominent Warsaw citizens hung from it by the neck. It bears a sign that says approximately 'do what we say or this will be you'.
The Germans set aside sections on trains and trams that were "only for Germans". The Polish underground sometimes wrote "only for Germans" on the walls of cemeteries.
Eichmann may not have been a good example of the "banality of evil". I feel like the theory or idea is still very useful in that it took the tacit approval and co-operation or passiveness of many people "just following orders" for all of this to be possible.
Interesting fact - Eichmann travelled to British Palestine in 1937, to negotiate with the Jewish authorities. He spent the night in Haifa and was kicked out of the country by the Brits.
Eichmann was a calculated murderer whose weapon was bureaucracy’s infrastructures. Killing someone by writing their death sentence is still murder if you know it is unjust, not to mention 11 million death sentences including children.
I'm here as a volunteer of the ghost army of the algorithm
Small error @ 0:44 the name of the Austrian town is "Linz".
"Oh my, look at Eichmann's lovely, long and thin tie!
4.5/5"
He was played exceptionally well by Stanley Tucci in the HBO film "Conspiracy".
And was played by Gerd Böckmann in the much better movie “Die Wannseekonferenz”.
Played brilliantly by the German actor Thomas Kretschmann. In the film Eichmann. Which you can watch on Amazon Prime.
Thanks.
At 8:26 you can see a girl standing with her had slightly out in a train wagon by camp Westerbork. It's rather well known picture of the holocaust. I've been to camp Westerbork and there's a prettt long story about that girl. That girl was Settela Steinbach. The girl held her had out for pretty long time, almost till the point the train started (or maybe the train was already moving). Now apparently she stood oud there for so long that her mother told her to ged back or she might catch a cold. She would be killed in Auschwitz only days later. It just goes to show how little these people knew what was about to happen once they would arive at there next destination.
I think you need to look at Hannah Arendt - Eichmann in Jerusalem (on the banality of evil) again, she is quite clear that Eichmann is overwhelmed by his Nazi ideology, which he embraces and this motivates him and strips him of his limited humanity and makes him banal. She also recognises his pride and boasting, particularly in the deportation of the Hungarian Jews and at the final stages of the war.
She is probably most interesting in how and why Europe surrenders it's Jews to Eichmann and the final solution. Eichmann in Jerusalem does not make Eichmann a victim - Arendt agrees with his death sentence. But it does show he is not a Voldemort, but uninteresting and hollowed out by his own willing embrace of Nazi ideology, and "winged words", that allow him to metamorphose into the proud, but ultimately banal, boring bureaucrat of death. I think think a more disturbing analysis of evil and more pertinent to our current time.
" I hope you all will fallow me." From the devil himself. Chilling...
Indeed. Was he saying he wanted us to be like him. Or was he wishing us dead, like he would be moments later?
I’m sure his unrepentant time in hell is very special.
@@dawood121derful That is not for us to judge, thankfully. But what we can judge, his actions in this world, left a man deprived of humanity.
Many say the nazis were a possessed bunch. I reflect on it and it's no exageration...
@@johnhall8364 Ok dude, this video is about one of the architects of the Holocaust. And you end up talking about the Democratic party. Get your head out of your arse.
@@youngimperialistmkii Considering he met his fate in Israel, I'd say he was cursing that nation to death.
Thank you for not playing into the old banality narrative. Philosophically I'm sure there were people it applied to, but Eichmann was clearly ideologically driven and enthusiastic.
@Mr.science I hate wehraboos but you can't really blame them the German army was cool
I see the clock on the left of Spartacus is set to Doomsday time...
In is indeed doomsday o'clock - also known as midnight in the garden of beasts.
Again the temperature in my room dropped by 10 degrees celcius
Maybe you should take a hot shower instead?
*...inappropriate place for that joke?
@@heart0fthedrag0n Yikes dude...
Once again, this channel has done an excellent job of showing that it is in fact possible to be on the wrong side of history.
Thanks for the positive feedback, we appreciate it.
Interesting fact: before he became a famous novelist, Harry Mulisch was present at the Eichmann trial as a journalist. He wrote a short book about it, 'De Zaak 40/61' (tr.: 'The Case 40/61') in which he comes to the same conclusion as Hannah Arendt, namely that Eichmann was a boring nobody, an empty shell of a man who had no personal affiliation with the job he was doing.
The idea that only the ones who 'pulled the trigger' or 'gave the orders' are guilty is by now pathetically obsolete, as we know it denies the reality of human nature. The ones who facilitated a criminal act are also guilty, as are the ones who acquiesced and did not oppose. Many will escape human judgment, but Without a much larger community of accomplices, mass murder and genocide don't happen.
So youtube doesn't have a content warning for videos like these about nazis but does have one for the war against humanity episodes about the Holocaust.... Interesting....
Once again a very well made vidéo
Thanks!
Good episode, thank you Sparty and TG!
Thanks!
First thought that popped in my mind is the 2006 movie "Der letzte Zug" "The Last Train" which I watched last year, even though the movie is nothing compared to how it really was, i just wanted to share this one of many movies regarding the trains that were used. Again thank you for the hard work you guys are doing
Simple but lovely tie to commemorate one of the most gruesome parts of the war. Reviewing these always feels a little off. 3/5, and another great episode
It's never off - even the worst of our videos require dress decorum out of respect for the victims, and you keep us on the straight and narrow by playfully pointing to that. It's a motivation for us to see beyond the dredge.
Horrific subject and a horrific human being. I am however glad that I can leave a comment and add a like to this video. Your work is so damned important. Please keep it up.
@Uncle Joe In the TV movie "Conspiracy" (2001) Stanley Tucci plays him as competent if unpleasant middle management, efficient at running the Wannsee meeting, polite to the female help but when a male kitchen attendant drops plates, he demands that it be taken out of his wages. Rather like the sort of workplace supervisor most people have encountered, but hardly demonic evil.
"funny" fact the surname Eichmann is connected with killing machines of the two XX century totalitarianisms: One is Adolf Eichamn and the other Fiodor Eichmans - commander of the first soviet lager and killing center on the Solovki island. They were not related tho
Again a great addition to all the good historical videos you make! Spartacus, I sincerely respect you for enduring the hardships, together with your team ofcourse, to produce all this. I can imagine it frequently is heartbreaking and at times nearly impossible to do...my greatest respect to all the team!
Specialist Harry Janssens
Thank You Harry!
He was the Nazi "Expert" on Jewish culture -- since as a youth he grew up in a Jewish neighborhood. That's actually what brought him to prominence within the SD. He was the ultimate amoral man. He had no scruples at all -- about ANYTHING. Even his 'peers' found him unsettling, totally creepy. This comes through even during his trial, years after the Shoah.
If any are interested, there is a movie from 60 yrs ago about the search for Eichmann. It's called Operation Eichmann.
The actor who plays Col. Klink in Hogan's Heroes plays the part of Eichmann.
I am happy to hear that you are sharing the sad parts of history. I hope nothing like this happens again.
I am an older Catholic and I will never forget! Thank you for using this platform to educate.
Eons ago, I got a book off of the sale table by Barbara Tuchman, The Proud Tower. It was a story of pre WW1 Europe. I got fascinated by the war and the aftermath. Even earlier I causally picked up an old history book from 1919 and skimmed through it. I remember it because of one thing. The author predicted that if the peace treaty failed, there would be another war. Unfortunately he was right.
What would the world be today if events changed and there was no assassination attempt of Franz Ferdinand?
Thank you very much for pursuing this.
Thank you for watching this
How ''honest'' would you say the idea was to emigrate the Jewish populations (Madagascar, Palestine)? In other words; were these serious considerations that failed due to changing circumstances or just minor roadblocks on the path to the ''final solution'' of genocide?
Serious is a vague word in connection to Nazi plans. Their ideas often tended to be extremely outlandish, insane, and horrific to the point of being unbelievable, but then they carried them out anyway. The Madagascar plan was thoroughly contemplated and part of several outlines put forward. The idea was only really scrapped when it became clear that the Royal Navy was not anywhere close to being defeated anytime soon, meaning that Axis full control of the Indian Ocean would be impossible.
A biography special about Mannerheim?
Excellent explanation of the twisted and demented views of a true monster. People often wonder how a relatively “normal” person finds themselves doing these unspeakable things, sadly it’s all too possible.
It might sound ironic but one of the most chilling portrayals of Adolf Eichmann was done by Werner Klemperor - of Hogan's Heroes Fame - in a 1961 film called "Operation Eichmann". John Banner (sgt. Schultz) was also in the film, but neither were portrying the goofy characters you got to know in Stalag 13 - they were downright evil.
Here's a clip of the January 1942 meeting: th-cam.com/video/phbAv8dh5MM/w-d-xo.html
Yes! Little Oggie’s channel. 👍🏻
I think I would have a hard time watching that movie appropriately. Just like I can't not laugh at the meme scene of Hitler in Downfall.
sometimes, when I hear his name, I think about his place of "burial"... or rather how after his execusion he was cremated and his ashes scatered across Yarkon river.
His ashes were scattered in the Mediterranean Sea, beyond the territorial waters of Israel, lest any memorial to him remain.
@@stuart8663 yeah right, I mistook it with a criminal who was murdered and burnt some time later. my bad '^^
Thank you. Keep up this work.
why not special regarding each government concerned by the war? Will do some "on location" video after covid like you did in the great war?
brilliantly presented video on vile character
No, you don't get to be a train conductor loading human being onto a train to industrial murder centers and be a mindless bureaucrat at some point you have to have a level of responsibility
EXCELLENT documentary.
I like the closing statement "Never Forget!" Do not stop that!
As a german i don't feel guilt for the things that happend. But i feel responsible that something like that never happens again.
>As a German i don't feel guilt for the things that happened.
Yes, and you shouldn't. Whoever tries to shame you for things which were never in your control, isn't only dumb as hell, but he is also a terrible person imo. This might sound like common sense but yeah, I've heard a lot of stupid shit from people.
Also, Germany does a wonderful job when it comes to educating it's citizens. I wish my country could have Germany as an example for it's education.
A good maxim to be held, which I reckon, is universally thought
"One shall not drown in tears (despaired) for what happened in the past, but to move forward and learn from that to become a better self"
Humans have flaws, we should never strife for true perfection. After all, the most beautiful of nights are those dotted with stars, not the one which is the most spotless.
Bleib stolz und Bleib Wachsam, mein Freund... 🙏
Linz > Lintz
Why not both? Does anyone know Baccano?
Can you guys do an episode on Raul Wallenberg? He was amazing and saved many lives during the Holocaust
We definitely will when the time comes - right now he's still in Sweden, not knowing anything of his future fate.
Sorry if this has been covered - early in the video you mention that Eichmann attended the same school as Hitler had years earlier. (Another comment below mentions another prominent Nazi, Kaltenbrunner?, also attended it). Is this significant? Was there an important teacher or someone similar who influenced them?
My recension of the channel is finally in truck & tank(number 83, had a hard time finding this one, for some reason not a lot of shop had it), what email can I use to send the page to you? by the way, can I change my mail on the timeghost forum in my profile or not? thanks for your answer!
Great work. Top notch. Simply wonderful! To the whole team, you're the best!
The term _murder capacity_ is chilling
Will we maybe ever see a guns of ww2 series or something in that direction, just like we had on the great war channel with c&rsenal. Perhaps if possible again with c&rsenal( because i hear they are going to be finalizing their ww1 series this year, so they might be available) or perhaps something with Jonathan ferguson of the royal armories, because he has also been doing a lot of work on TH-cam recently, it would be fun to see those types of videos again i think. Well anyway i have been a fan of these videos ever since the great war channel so keep it up
I just came across this channel a couple of weeks ago. It's an amazingly well presented program. A 21st century successor to the World at War series. And, yes, never forget!
Thanks Allan
He had a nice gangster smile
Oh a new video! A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one
I find myself fiddling with the comments section, or have my eyes wander off in every other direction. I'm not like this with anything pleasant, even with disturbing scenes in horror movies. The silly things we do to mitigate pain.
10:20 "all policy is wrong, but frightfully well carried out"
It still surprises me that it was not open season on individuals like him that got away after the war.
The problem was, that the conquering western powers had no gripes with them. I don't know if it was secret sympathy with nazi ideology or the fact that we were not the ones they oppressed, or the fear of Soviet expansionism and that they were anti-Soviet (the old "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" canard) but the US in particular protected many of them- we even promoted some of them like Werner Von Braun the head of our space program, and released a bunch of them like Guderian without trial. But the Russians took them out on sight- which is why the remnants of the German army tried to break out and surrender to US forces in 1945- they knew they'd be safe.
A paragraph on the front cover of "Eichmann in my Hands" explains beautifully why this would have been wrong.
"Since Malkin (Peter Z Malkin, the Mossad agent who captured Eichmann) had lost so many of his own family in the Holocaust, his first desire was to kill his target. But because he was a professional-and as Uzi (Rafi Eitan?) reminded him- because there was a difference between them and men like Eichmann."
@@superadventure6297 true and that working for new employers was and is a very strange thing it just goes to show how badly all the powers wanted any advanced technology and the person who dreamed it up. But I was mainly talking about a "nongovermental" response to the people who propagated the eradication of entire groups of people.
In the immediate post-war days some were lynched after capture but the circumstances are uncertain because they were so unofficial - for example Oskar Dirlewanger and Silesian Gauleiter Karl Hanke. The former may have been killed by French troops, the latter by Czechs.
@@stevekaczynski3793 Yes from what I've read, the Czechs took out a few hundred in the chaos after the Prague campaign; and this would be AFTER V.E day, the May 7-15th period
Good job, great vid
Hi sparty
You explained this episode clearly..
Thanks
Quality and quantity. Man I love this channel! Would love to hear more about the mission with the Israeli agents extracting Eichmann! I’ve seen some videos about it, but your style is really fulfilling.
Theres some terrific Kindle books about the subject, most amazing dedicated Mossad team members with one end-goal.
NEVER FORGET!
It's not murder when the victims aren't humans, that is called slaughter.
Black Earth and Blood Lands on the shelf in the back! Two books every person should read. Timothy Snyder rules.
Really glad that you pushed back against the idea of the banality of evil. It's striking to me how Hanna Arendt essentially believed what Eichmann said about himself at his trial because it conformed with her own theories- frankly a shocking level of journalistic irresponsibility.
The photograph captions are important, and deserve to be more visible. Even with my display set to 'theatre mode' its quite a job to read them.
TH-cam, you shoud help spred these videos
my part for the algorithm
Hi, next time you make ww2 biography can you make it about Genreral Carl Gustav Fleischer who was the first general to win a battle against Germany. He also commited suicide in 1942
Very well done