Phoenix Suns "7 Seconds or Less" Offense
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ก.ย. 2014
- The Phoenix Suns in the Mid 2000's had a very fast paced dynamic offense. Steve Nash and Shawn Marion were two of the best player of that team. The Suns executed a bunch of P&R's and here I breakdown the offense in a game from 2006.
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It's funny how some of these players on this team won a championship but not with the Suns.
Marion: Mavericks 2011
Diaw: Spurs 2014
Barbosa: Warriors 2015
James Jones: Heat 2012-2013
I just wish Steve Nash won a ring before he retired.
Barbosa is a scrub now
+805fillmore He actually did play an important role as a spark plug at times in the Finals last year. Far from a scrub. Sure, he's certainly isn't in his prime anymore, but he's no scrub.
+John Jack Nash can still get his with the 2016 Warriors hehe
Evan Brooks True but I wanted him and and the Suns to beat the Lakers at least once in the playoffs.
+John Jack they did beat the lakers 2006 but they couldnt beat them in 2010 the spurs mavs and the lakers kept them from ever getting to the finals which sucked cause they where such a fun team to watch.
This Suns team is legendary - they changed the NBA.
+zed end Unfortunately couldn't win it all, but their impact on the league will be felt for decades to come.
If there were no lakers or spurs powerhouse.. They could have won that era.. They were always at the top teams then..
Yep, that team took out the physicality of the game.
+zed end Kwame Brown was legendary he changed the NBA
@@tiismuna nah
Steve Kerr was the Suns GM during this time. He wanted to draft Curry, but couldn't.
10 years later, Steve Kerr and Steph Curry have perfected the philosophy introduced by Nash and the Phoenix Suns. Leandro Barbosa happens to be on both teams. The only differences are that the current Warriors team is just as deadly in the half-court with their ball movement, and they play at an elite level on defense.
But when Curry or Draymond Green runs and gets out in open space in transition and start making plays for others, it reminds me a lot of Steve Nash and this Suns team that frankly should have gone farther than it did.
Nash was in fact on the Warriors' staff teaching Curry passing.
wasn't Kobe's team pretty weak during this era(mid 2000s)?
Would have won in 07 if the series vs the spurs wasnt rigged. Look up the conspiracy and watch the AWFUL officiating
PUGE BUY quite unstable at the time. soon kobe gets really frustrated and went with the 60+ points spree for a while
Although the Spurs are my favorite team, I had to admit that the Suns were robbed by the refs during 2007 West. conf semi-finals.
Mike D’antoni may never win a championship, but he did inspire a generation of 2K players online game style.
Kwame Brown "nice post up move wow" aahahahhahaha
To be fair, when he was with my Sixers, if he wasn't airballing fadeaways, he was doing nice low post spin moves, where there would be a 50/50 chance of making a basket.
Great layup, Kwame!
Damn I miss watching The Suns, Mavs, Spurs and Lakers battle it out in the mid 2000"s. Great basketball
Tough games
It's this Nash-led Suns offense which was drawn up by D'Antoni along with the KG-led Celtics defense which was drawn up by Thibs that became the blueprint for the NBA today.
Damn, Steve Nash was one of the all time greats and this Pheonix team was deadly. I remember those days. Hell I remember going and seeing Steve Nash on the Mavericks as well. The Steve Nash/Dirk Nowitzki duo was deadly.
Actually it was a trio.
Dirty - Dirk
Filthy - Finley
Nasty - Nash
Many features of this offensive scoring scheme were taken by Alvin Gentry to Golden State.
And know basically the whole nba
Once again Coach, thanks for making these easily digestible breakdowns for us.
I loved this phx team. Wish they won a championship
Charles Amofordjuoh Great offensive team, but defensively were average. That is why a balanced team like Lakers and Spurs beat them.
MrYoumitube the Lakers NEVER beat the Suns in the playoffs during the Nash era... the best they could do was force a game 7 where L.A. lost horribly in a blowout. The ONLY teams that were able to beat Phoenix were well rounded teams like San Antonio and Dallas that kept them from reaching the Finals. But also, Phoenix was ripped off by the ref scandal as well. That Suns team were Capable of winning back to back championships.
2207Jay they lost to la in 2010
Lakers beat them in 2010 with Nash
@MrYoumitube B.S. they should have run and pushed the pace even more. More three's, especially, Nash. Plus they had bad luck with injuries and bad deals or no deals by management. Amaretto injury, Joe Johnson injury along with letting him get away (new owners who were afraid to spend the money), Horry hip check, being in the West, etc., etc. It takes some luck sometimes to win it all. If it wasn't for bad luck, the Sun's would've had no luck at all.
This instrumental is so soothing! Another nice breakdown!!
Great breakdown. Just found your channel. Great stuff. I loved this team.
Crazy to think a “ 7 second offense” is the average time it takes for a team to score in today’s NBA. Things really have evolved
I have consistently watched NBA since nash left. i miss those late night tnt Thursday games
This was a great breakdown of their offense. This and the Spurs offense of ball and player movement was amazing as well.
Luke Walton - now warriors coach
Leandro Barbosa - now warriors player
Steve Nash - now warriors skill development coach
😂
Lebron James - now NBA champion
Kyrie Irving-Should have been FInals MVP
+Bharles Carkley hell no
Walton is actually the Lakers' coach...Kerr is still the Warriors' coach
Zachary Thomas He was the assistant coach of the Warriors. You bandwagon
Very nice breakdown and oldies background music.
great video. Great commentary. Chill video.
4:05 This is beautiful play design and analysis by you as well
It's amazing how much of this the 2012 to present Spurs have taken from this and progressed and developed it even more. I've always been a spurs fan but I always did like and feel bad for this under achieving suns team
As I kid that grew up in Phoenix watching this team becoming of fan of the game. I never knew they were ahead of there time. I hated Kobe those early years, when our big 3 split the suns where never this fast paced team. I branched out and became a lebron fan seeing that he might be able to beat kobe. Boi did I see some good mashups but it almost happened that they met in the finals but Cavs lost the east, My hate for Kobe went away when he got hurt, I didn’t hate him cause he was so great, it was just a suns laker rivalry growing up n he would always do Kobe things to win, but after he got hurt didn’t play for some months I missed him, missed his game missed his mamba mentality RIP Kobe RIP GIgi at the end you were one of my favorite ppl. Suns are still my hometown team Cp3 is with us! Lebron still one of my fav players, I’m not a lebron fan as much as I once was I’ve become a fan of the game I have many favorite players out there throughout the league. The league is in good hands.
great breakdown
i miss these days...first time watching an actual nba game and was introduced to the league
Great video.
Ahhh Steve is a legend!!
i love that delegation song in the background lol
man that wasn't kobe in the post twice......
Damn that series didn’t even have amari? And yet they are still super good
really old, but awesome vid
I love how they kept on picking on Kwame!
he low key threw shade at Kwame brown.
Love the song
I think what Dan is missing here is that Kobe knows Barbosa is a better driver than a shooter.
Nice! thank you
Miss when we were this good.
if the Suns actually put some emphasis on D back then, they would've gone so far, but still, they were so much fun to watch. good to see D'Antoni is having some success with the Rockets now, i couldn't stand the flack he was getting in NYC and L.A.
Nash's basketball IQ is godlike . I believe he deserved a ring big time
Why is the music some kind of elevator music with summer feels lol
Holy shit, Kwame Brown with the spin move.... lol
+unknownj76 i KNOW RIGHT SO UNDERRATED he was one of the top 5 players of all time during his prime days with the lakers and let's not forget his time with the bobcats
Kwame brown top 5 player of all time during his prime? LOLOLOLLOLOL. I dont know wthat the fuck your smoking but here is no fucking way in hell Kwame brown was a top 5 player during his prime. Jesus crhist.
mikey sparks not during his time,hes a top 5 player all time overalll
Hahahahahha
hope steve nash would do this in Nets
You can make a case that these teams are basically the prototype of today’s NBA
They had a fantastic offense and i loved this team and watching them on offense. but their defense was not good
That Nash floater was different
how do you think the rockets will fare under d'antoni with new pieces like anderson, gordon and nene? i'm actually quite interested in seeing how harden will handle the point in that kind of offense; seems tailor made for what the rockets are trying to run. plus, i'm interested to see how this defensive coordinator situation will work out.
Well rockets has def gave harden good help , and Jeff Bzilek is one of the best defensive coordinators in the NBA , he did really good for Memphis as their coordinator ,
Barring major injuries they'll be a playoff team. Will struggle on D, Harden needs to buy in and then the others will follow.
the more i look at the situation, even if they play middle of the road defense as a team they'll hit 50 wins under d'antoni. he's an offensive master mind.
It's still early in the season, but it looks like the Rockets are rolling under D'Antoni.
And they're playing legit D too
We'll miss you Steve.
The 2015 Warriors Offense is an evolution of this offense.
I used to use this same strategy when I played NBA Live/2k
This was a very high opportunistic, high IQ team led by the the future HOF Steve Nash
Nash pullin up from t3 in transition in 06
You should do defense videos
Steve Nash was real life justice young
Kind of reminds me of the Chino Hills high school offense we see today, if you don't know who they are look em up.
Rockets need to get D'Antoni
+mccanners90 it seems they are pretty much thinking it's between him and van gundy at this point.
This was a good breakdown, but to be honest most of the plays done in this video every Nba team does more or less. So it's not really a Suns offense video...
Because the Suns started it
This 2005 Suns has a nice and good play but I prefer Grit and Grind because they think before they score. But, I like 7 Seconds or Less
LeBron needs to watch this
Robbed in 07. After the spurs, they had an easy road to a chip. Suns should've dominated but the Nba said nah.
Brian Grant 🔥
What's the name of the instrumental playing in the background? Sounds familiar.
here you go th-cam.com/video/6otvNLsrfaY/w-d-xo.html
the D'Antoni + Harden is more impressive nowadays
Yeah, it's been looking much better.
***** You must be a little kid that doesn't watch the Rockets. Gordon = easy 6 MOTY candidate, Bev = DPOTY candidate, Anderson is the best stretch 4 in the league, and Clint is emerging as a better center than Howard ever was for the Rockets. Montrezl Harrell will emerge as one of the better small ball forwards in the league. The Rockets also have better shooters from behind the arc than the Suns ever had. They're on pace to crack 60 wins, have the 3rd best record in the league and can have a legitimate chance to make the WCF. But hey, keep sleeping on them. At least your name is fitting.
Kolby K 2004-2005 suns record 60-20 , 2005-2006 61-21 still pretty impressive
Greg Morgan They are. They were amazing teams.
Kolby K same for Houston I believe James harden should be the MVP over Westbrook
the only problem in this Team was defense we all knew D'Antoni isn't Defensive minded
He was not avid defensive coach but teams were average at best in defending under d antoni
Man this 06 Lakers team was sorry as hell with no offense to Kobe
what beat is playing in the bg?
th-cam.com/video/6otvNLsrfaY/w-d-xo.html
The post-up around 6:40 looks a lot less like Kobe and a lot more like Smush Parker... (didn't check the other "Kobe" calls)
2:19Imagine Shaqtin a fool at this time
Bear your child.7 Seconds or Less.
Song in background?
Feel Good Hip Hop Instrumental/Beat - "Light Years Away"
I wonder if Kerr regrets trading Marion for a washed Shaq. The trade shuttered their window.
fun team to watch, led the LG in scoring every yr, 110pts per game and then...shaq came.
+NBaBall3r26 There defense actually improved with Shaq, since the pace would sometimes slow down. It was "7 seconds or Shaq" offense.
They lost to Spurs because of Shaq. Popovich went to "Hack a Shaq" strategy and Shaq was shooting the ball 25% on the line. That strategy ruined the Suns' pace and rhythm.
RottenDick He actually shot 75% from the line in the 4th quarter with the Suns. Better than any other team he as a part of.
Chino hills offense
Watching in 2023
This really looks like chino hills
Chino hills offensive is 7 seconds or less but they rely on skill instead of tatics
Philip Metz chino hills=cherry picking
Are you from Pittsburgh? Your accent kind of sounds like one, just a little bit..
Im born and raised in Los Angeles
I'm from alibama
Crazy I always thought you were born somewhere in Italy...
This Suns team was a precursor to modern offenses. However, imho, it was superior for 2 major reasons:
1. Steve Nash.
2. Shot selection within the flow of the game rather than forcing bad shots in isolation.
There are a few modern teams (post-2010) that perfected this style of offense while actually playing defense:
San Antonio Spurs (2014)
Golden State Warriors (2015 - 2019)
The Phoenix Suns did not play team defense very well and they didn't have any individual defenders who were overly remarkable.
D'Antoni was a genius but was also a bit mad LOL.
2022 Warriors played like that too
If Nash in his prime replaced Curry in Kerr's system they would have beat the Cavs this Finals. From what I saw during the post season Curry can only contribute when he's making 3s. When his shots aren't falling he is a liability on defense and his passing skills is average. If Nash's shots aren't falling he can always find the open man and draw FT with a 90% at the line. If only Nash played in this era of small ball.
curry is an elite player beside 3 Pointers, leaves best free throw shooter, Lead league in steals, one of the best dribblers and one of the best passers. The 3 pointers are just what separates him to a whole nother level
Sage Aoki You gotta admit tho. Nash would have been amazing in today's basketball.
+Sage Aoki
na hes a shooter.
he cant defend.
He barely drives.
that got exposed this entire playoffs,
He did play great this season though
Spvcely Averaged 15 points a game besides his 3 pt, Really good defender people sleep on him. He was exposed for being injured, he never played good after that mcl sprain that kept him out 2 weeks
chookalatemuffin Oh yeah, Nash is one of my all time favorites
2:46 😂😂😂
These unskippable ads are really going to make me never watch your channel again
Game of Zones? #Brickmen
7 second offense was to basketball what Indianapolis hurryup offense was to football
Their conditioning had to be on point to be in this system Jesus Christ
I cringed every time Shawn Marion shot the ball
shoot*
shot was right
Jared Shaw English is my second language, I should know.
But you are wrong.
It was a strange shot but if it works don't fix it.
I don't get y the timberwolves don't do this
Basically the warriors today except they are better than the suns
if only they played defense
who's more fun to watch the Steve Nash Phoenix Suns Steph Curry Golden State Warriors and let's not forget the Baron Davis Don Nelson Warriors are the Blake Griffin Los Angeles Clippers
Jeffery Beasley these Suns were the most fun team to watch I've ever seen and I watched the 08 Celtics every night
DeadlyArc180 the baron Davis warriors were the most entertaining team ever in my opinion but the suns were fun this yrs warriors as well
Jeffery Beasley they were great too. I love this year's rockets also
DeadlyArc180 yeah the rockets are exciting what about Russell westrook that man is insane bro
Is there a reason why they were so bad defensively? Is it cause they played so fast meaning more possessions for the other team? GS played the fastest and had the best defence...
Patrick F The Warriors were great on both which is why they won it all. But the Suns were not bad defensively. Advanced statistics say they were league average. They just allowed more PPG because of their pace.
The Warriors never played the spurs
+Coach Daniel by this logic shouldn't GS defence be considered even better than it is because they played fast? In other words, if GS played at a slower pace, their defence would statistically be better?
Patrick F Possibly yes. But also their offense helped their defense so the they could get back. They scored at such a great rate and when they did they could get back and set their D,
When you said "post up against Kobe and took advantage of the mismatch" or something like that, please take another look it was not Kobe. Kobe would never let his opponent post him up and score that easily, regardless of the size or position. That was either Smush Parker or some bench player I couldn't remember. Nobody can post up Kobe that easy. Do some homework
They were basically the beta version of today's NBA.
0 championships or less
who is the very next team that copied suns offense? lol. noone. coudnt get it done in the playoffs
The Golden State Warriors. You know the multiple championships?! Steve Kerr was the GM during this period. He brought the style to Golden State. Kerr wanted to draft Steph Curry for the Suns in 2009 but couldn’t.
you gotta stop using that sleepy song, man.
Luke Walton can’t guard shit
I'm sorry but have you ever coached in your life? Your analysis is basically just stating the obvious. Okay I might be being a little harsh I've coached for 10 years so I guess I'm not your target audience then. Good video though.
Sorry good spacing, pick and roll reads, and an uptempo offense is not complicated enough for you. This offense is not complex and that's part of the reason it's so good.
I must admit I was wrong, I just watched a few more of your videos and the analysis was actually really good. I'm a proud man but I will always admit when I'm wrong and in this case I was. You've earned yourself a subscriber Coach.
Max Nagle Thanks Max I appreciate it.
Don't see anything how to play basketball. We need moves and show us how to do it. Not just advice.
Never got past my spurs lol